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Posted: 14 years ago
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so true anu, instead of rejecting such disgusting offers and asking his educated daughter a job he is using blackmailing tactics on phooli.. .dumb🤬.😡....somebody should just push him into that well 😡..good riddance😡
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Posted: 14 years ago
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The description of nataa pratha given above is probably true in some places but there is another form of it that I knew of. When someone's husband dies and the girl is young and has kids etc and doesnot have means of supporting the kids, the in-laws family arranges a marriage of the girl to one of unmarried brothers of the husband. It is generally done because the family cares for the DIL and does not want her to live a lone and difficult life. If someone wants to go back to her maykaa and remarry or want to stay alone, it will generally not be forced on her. It mostly works well because the girl will find it difficult to remarry if she has kids (unless she choses to leave the kids which is pretty difficult for a mother). She is properly married to the other guy and gets full respect and rights of a wife. There is no money exchange involved and both families agree to it keeping in mind the future of kids and the mother and mostly the girl also agrees. The widow is not at all treated badly and I am not making this up, I have seen these cases and everyone including the girl was happy. May be the younger brother to whom she is married will feel that he is making a sacrifice but generally it tuns out well.

I didn't find this tradition a bad thing at all given the way widows are treated in other places. Here they were taken care of very nicely as any other member of family. They are not a kept woman of the man. she gets full respect of society. I don't know which way of it the serial people are going to saw but given how stupid the tv people generally tend to be for TRP's, I have no hopes from them of showing both sides of the tradition.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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really jyo..its pathetic tht one person who u trust wid ur eyes closed wud prefer to sell u off to be sumbody's mistress rather thn let u get a job wid ur own qualifications wid a little dignity..apparently tht is MORE shameful thn being sum1's keep..or maybe am old school and dnt understand modern society,fool tht i am..at this very instant do u know what am thinking??tht jagya was actually right..this village will give phooli NOTHING..she being an emotional fool for her parents ruined her chances of further education or a good job and independance and here her parents are all ready to pack her off to be her devar/jeth's mistress..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ppp1

The description of nataa pratha given above is probably true in some places but there is another form of it that I knew of. When someone's husband dies and the girl is young and has kids etc and doesnot have means of supporting the kids, the in-laws family arranges a marriage of the girl to one of unmarried brothers of the husband. It is generally done because the family cares for the DIL and does not want her to live a lone and difficult life. If someone wants to go back to her maykaa and remarry or want to stay alone, it will generally not be forced on her. It mostly works well because the girl will find it difficult to remarry if she has kids (unless she choses to leave the kids which is pretty difficult for a mother). She is properly married to the other guy and gets full respect and rights of a wife. There is no money exchange involved and both families agree to it keeping in mind the future of kids and the mother and mostly the girl also agrees. The widow is not at all treated badly and I am not making this up, I have seen these cases and everyone including the girl was happy. May be the younger brother to whom she is married will feel that he is making a sacrifice but generally it tuns out well.


I didn't find this tradition a bad thing at all given the way widows are treated in other places. Here they were taken care of very nicely as any other member of family. They are not a kept woman of the man. she gets full respect of society. I don't know which way of it the serial people are going to saw but given how stupid the tv people generally tend to be for TRP's, I have no hopes from them of showing both sides of the tradition.

what u say makes sense frankly,bt i personally find marrying ur brother-in-law quite icky..dnt get me wrong,bt generally this man is one tht a married woman looks upon as a brother..and suddenly to marry the person seems,i dnt know,disturbing..am not judging the women who do take this decision,its my personal opinion..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: anu rulz

really jyo..its pathetic tht one person who u trust wid ur eyes closed wud prefer to sell u off to be sumbody's mistress rather thn let u get a job wid ur own qualifications wid a little dignity..apparently tht is MORE shameful thn being sum1's keep..or maybe am old school and dnt understand modern society,fool tht i am..at this very instant do u know what am thinking??tht jagya was actually right..this village will give phooli NOTHING..she being an emotional fool for her parents ruined her chances of further education or a good job and independance and here her parents are all ready to pack her off to be her devar/jeth's mistress..

oh anu, i totally get what you are saying,i too thought exactly that yesterday"issse acchaa toh phooli uss gadhey jagya kii baat sunn ke shehar jaa ke naukri karr lethi",why have parents like this who force you to a lifetime of humiliation, ..she is atleast educated ,why not use it ? is a girls life all about being tied to a man however useless he might be,anandi ne to padhaai naa kii atleast phooli got that chance and even after that she is forced to accept these traditions,everything in this male dominated society designed to oppress women ...Damn😡..i get soooo angryyyy😡
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: anu rulz

what u say makes sense frankly,bt i personally find marrying ur brother-in-law quite icky..dnt get me wrong,bt generally this man is one tht a married woman looks upon as a brother..and suddenly to marry the person seems,i dnt know,disturbing..am not judging the women who do take this decision,its my personal opinion..


This thing generally happens in villages where there is not necessarily much interaction between th males and females of the house. Also there brother in law is more of a devar/jeth than a brother. of course it seems awkward but then human mind is great in adjusting.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ppp1


This thing generally happens in villages where there is not necessarily much interaction between th males and females of the house. Also there brother in law is more of a devar/jeth than a brother. of course it seems awkward but then human mind is great in adjusting.


What you say is true ppp1. I do recall seeing a movie about this -Hema and Rishi, he had played the devar and he found it difficult to accept his bhabhi as his wife and vice versa - eventually though, they BOTH had seen the practical side of things and made peace with it.

The system is not without its hiccups but the underlying main cause was that, as a widow the treatment and subsequently the importance and eventual share in property meted out to her kids is quite pathetic.

This system ensures the kids get their fair share in assets and gives a second lease of life to the widow. Not perfect - but way better than what otherwise wud be. The grandparents of the kids feel assured that after them - their property will be divided equally among the sons of the house.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I believe it was referred to as 'chaddar dalna' or something.

But this was a custom of the olden times, typically reserved for widows with kids. It has no place here and the serial will just be vilifying a an old village practise which had some merit and hold it up to ridicule...I feel sad for the old people in villages watching this serial - they are going to feel so humiliated because of the distortion in depiction of this practise.

Its no different from the disgust the term 'arranged marriage' evokes in the western world. When actually, all the parents try to do is find a suitable looking candidate of a similar background and likes and dislikes - thus improving the chances of their kids happiness. This too was reqd earlier as dating was not acceptable to the older gen and hence there needed to be an alternative to finding people !!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@hooked
i think the movie was called 'ek chadar maili si' ..and there was another movie'waaris' were the heroine after being widowed gets her younger sister married to her father in law😲 for getting a heir to her husband 's property ...
guess in the end everything is about property rights and sadly women end up doing all the
compromises ..........🤔
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i don't know if i'm hurting anybody's emotions...... i really can't believe such things like Natha Pratha is still seen in some places. this is really insult to girls. plz don't get me wrong... i'm ignorant about such customs...

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