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Posted: 6 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: sweet_tania

Completely Agree there is no need to sugarcoat noor's acts.

They are showing shayra is in love with noor and not in love with azaan because now azaan's happiness is not shayra's responsibility but noor's happiness is shayra's responsibility.

Lol husband's happiness is not shayra's responsibility but third wheel's happiness is her responsibility.

Why so much importance to noor character at the cost of killing other important relation like husband wife relation of shayra -azaan?Why third wheel should be there in background for every shazaan moment?can't they spare shazaan some moments without noor after all they are also couple ?

Writer's prime focus is NOOR and this show only revolves around character noor and her happiness , they can butcher azaan-shayra love for the sake of noor very easily and they are on their way of butchering.

Yeah Tania, cvs doesn't even shows Noor's mistakes as mistakes. I just hope they don't butcher Shayra-Azaan. As of now I'm liking Shayra's calm exterior. Also there is need to show divine interventions for third wheel. They are 3 grown up adults who can talk and sort it out. Also Shayra's first responsibility should be her relationship with Azaan, by which she got her dream home, a family. The way they are trying to portray Noor is Shayra's responsibility is lame.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: kkr7

Yes Nora! It was her first scene where she was dancing in a baraat, she misinterprets that the groom's father is trying to misbehave and slaps him. She immediately realises that it is just her misunderstanding, but she doesn't want to accept her mistake and keeps blabbering that she is future bahu begam and all. Later she goes to dargah and prays to God to not to punish her for that and in return she will keep fasting. Shayra overhears this and asks Noor not to do sauda with God and she has to apologise. Of course Noor storms off and doesn't consider Shayra's words. This is the first scene which shows the contrasting personalities of these 2 ladies.

Noor is far away from reality, I do not find any difference between her and Suraiya's actions except that everyone tells us that Noor is right as muhfat, Suraiya is wrong as muhfat. Suraiya wants to abuse the power which comes with Bahu Begum title, same goes for Noor.

Every Shazaan scenes ends with Noor disturbing them, if it's not Noor then we have Suraiya 😆

Intention is the key here, Noor's intentions are not wrong

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Posted: 6 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: kkr7

I agree with you. Also I didn't liked noor's first scene where she slaps an elderly man assuming he is trying to misbehave with her, even after knowing that she is the one at fault she didn't accept and apologise for her mistake. She claimed that innocent man was a molester and it is not something to ignore. The way she rejected Khalid is wrong too. I didn't liked how raziya supported noor and saying saath hasna and all, and how azaan was hiding his smile throughout that.

It's fine if they show that Noor is a person with flaws. She is self centred and full of herself, that's realistic. There is no need to sugarcoat.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I have to agree..I call noor as 100% immature & a self centered girl ...no second thoughts or justification from my side..but I accept her as such because she is going to be one of the lead and only her mistakes would take the show in an interesting way!! Otherwise there is nothing fresh in the storyline...

This show should not whitewash any character..just let them move on with thier nature.that would be amazing

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bharathi_gurti

I have to agree..I call noor as 100% immature & a self centered girl ...no second thoughts or justification from my side..but I accept her as such because she is going to be one of the lead and only her mistakes would take the show in an interesting way!! Otherwise there is nothing fresh in the storyline...

This show should not whitewash any character..just let them move on with thier nature.that would be amazing

Every character is a hero in himself, they just have to own upto their good and bad deeds. Problem arises when bad deeds are being blamed on God or represented as something which a normal human should do, like in Khalid's case making fun of a disabled man. Cringe

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Completely agree TM. People need to learn to distinguish between their favourite Samiksha and Noor who is a wrong and immoral character.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: dsr11

I disagree with your idea of how a 25 year old woman, or for that matter a woman of whatever age, should carry herself! Dancing with abandon, loving herself, enjoying life, being dramatic at times, throwing fits, showing emotion, expecting to be pampered by your dear ones, saying the wrong thing at times, being immature sometimes - all these things are considered HUMAN. I am 40 and I still act like a child with my family!

I threw a fit somewhat like Noor did on my wedding day! I was 25 when I got married. I didn't like it when some old ladies said I need to look pretty in my wedding for my groom to like me. It hurt my female ego! I am human and I have ego! So I decided to be immature! I told them I would get ready by myself and sent them out. I got ready without any make up on and walked to my groom like I am the queen of the world. Immature and imperfect, but I wouldn't change a thing if I get a chance to do it over. My husband loved the imperfect me! I told my husband that I was an atheist. May be I shouldn't always tell the truth. May be it would be wise to pretend to be something you are not. But I didn't. He loved me even more. He wasn't expecting me to be the most enlightened at 25, you see?! He knows that he isn't perfect himself and we humans have a long life to learn and grow! You may say I am not a heroine, but in my mind I am! Actually I think I am goddess!😄

I agree that Noor is a bit too self centered. She was too harsh with her words to Khalid, mocking his physical disabilities. But when you have a guy pester you for years even after rejecting many times, and his mother is an unkind woman who mocks your financial/social status all the time, its hard to be kind. Khalid is not an autistic person or mentally challenged guy, but a visually challenged and under confident guy, who developed an unhealthy obsession for Noor. He is what he is because of how his parents raised him. People who don't experience healthy love from their parents end up developing unhealthy attachments as adults. He was always compared to the perfect cousin and put down by his own parents. I feel bad for him. But lets say you have an adhd child, who can't control his impulses, you will forgive or scold him over minor offenses, but you won't do the same when he rapes someone or kills someone, will you? Gravity of crime is always taken into account even when you deal with people with mental problems.

For me, Noor is like a breath of fresh air. She is different from all the perfect tv heroines! She is imperfect and she is human. She is good hearted but doesn't play martyr. The best thing is that she doesn't preach! I love that in a heroine!

Noor comes off bratty and annoying. Everybody has a right to do whatever they want but there are situations/circumstances where your childishness/innocence doesn’t just affect you. Be a idiot all you want when it’s in just regards to your own being but if it’s affecting others then you need to act accordingly. There’s a time and a place to act like a toddler.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: tshaan

Noor comes off bratty and annoying. Everybody has a right to do whatever they want but there are situations/circumstances where your childishness/innocence doesn’t just affect you. Be a idiot all you want when it’s in just regards to your own being but if it’s affecting others then you need to act accordingly. There’s a time and a place to act like a toddler.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Great points by Nora and others...

The main issue for me is the writing lacks depth and not enough time given to develop or explore the relationships before the drama began.

Noor as a character makes no sense to me and I can not understand why her favour was sort, actually bought, above everyone else. All the characters keep stating she has a big heart but we are yet to see any evidence of it. It is small mercy that her mother saw her faults but her worry was dismissed by Razia Begum.

It is not wrong to want a good life, husband and being materialistic is true to life but the self centred and stubborn aspect does not appeal to me as a viewer, especially without any special talent or virtue of character. There have been innocent and immature female characters in many shows but here I am wondering what is so special about this one?

As mentioned, if this is supposed a part of her character arc then it is can be understood why the writers are showing her this way. If they plan to excuse all her bad actions due to tragedy, supposed big heart or because she is Azaan's best friend, ghar-ki-ladli and the promise Yasmeen Khala took from Shayra, then I am not convinced...

She does not seem innocent to me but immature perhaps, rude and selfish most certainly…

Edited by The_May_Rose - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Great points by Nora and others...

The main issue for me is the writing lacks depth and not enough time given to develop or explore the relationships before the drama began.

Noor as a character makes no sense to me and I can not understand why her favour was sort, actually bought, above everyone else. All the characters keep stating she has a big heart but we are yet to see any evidence of it. It is small mercy that her mother saw her faults but her worry was dismissed by Razia Begum.

It is not wrong to want a good life, husband and being materialistic is true to life but the self centred and stubborn aspect does not appeal to me as a viewer, especially without any special talent or virtue of character. There have been innocent and immature female characters in many shows but here I am wondering what is so special about this one?

As mentioned, if this is supposed a part of her character arc then it is can be understood why the writers are showing her this way. If they plan to excuse all her bad actions due to tragedy, supposed big heart or because she is Azaan's best friend, ghar-ki-ladli and the promise Yasmeen Khala took from Shayra, then I am not convinced...

She does not seem innocent to me but immature perhaps, rude and selfish most certainly…

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I do not see Noor as a revolutionary character, she has every trait of Suraiya but for some reasons we have to believe that she is good and Suraiya is bad

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