Ram, Pihu and Suhani responsible for the mess. - Page 2

Originally posted by: tulshan1989

acc to me sammy is also responsible as he is was misleading pihu from the beginning and for once he did not declarec openly that he love suhani after so many time elders asked him

Originally posted by: luvbalh

yeh messs ko chod ke sab priya ke peeche padgayi.. she dint hear to him.. my frined no one wil hear u hear .. BTW say pihu is right because she is ram's daughter.. ram ki against ya pihu ki against kuch kaha tho ur gone.

Originally posted by: ekta.jain

U r right !!

Originally posted by: Yuvian_forever

In every topic, people are blaming Sammy. God! bass karo. I'm fed up of this. the thing is he is responsible thats why blaming him...not only sammy pihu aur suhani ko bhi blame kar rahe hai 😛

First of all Ram is responsible for this mess. how he is respoonsible?

What kind of a man he is? When Priya hugged him before leaving KM, Pihu gave him a hint not to hug her and he agreed? Uski wife hai yaar, wo aisa kaise kar sakta hai? Usey Pihu ko ek tight slap marna chahiye tha. Kaise nai maanti. Afterall, he is her father. Beti ne kaha Mummy jao and Ram ne roka bhi nahi ekbaar. He is responsible for Pihu's this kind of behavior. Jo chahiye Pihu ko laake do. That's why she thinks she can get anything. She even treats Sammy like a toy. Ram is totally responsible for spoiling Pihu. yes he broke the hug n i too didn't liked it...wo sirf priya ka husband nhi hai , he is pihu's father also aur jab beti ne suicide attempt kiya(bhale hi natak tha but usne toh yakeen dilaya na k wo suicide karegi) toh konsa father risk lega? ram, the character has always been shown as emotional person when it comes to family aur koi bhi senti person wahi karega jo ram ne kiya why slapping is considered as solution to problem or to bring a person on right track...it always doesn't work...slapping wali wajah se hi toh peehu dont trust her mother completely...especailly pihu jaise psychos ko slap karenge na toh wo aur violent hojayege...beti ne ek ko chose karne ko kaha aur ram ne kuch decide nhi kiya...priya eased that out for him by leaving the house...i know ram could have stopped her but the situation was as such that he couldn't ...aur rahi bat sammy ki why he is allowing anyone to rule him n dictate him? he isn't child, right? khud ka brain hai wo use kar sakta hai...agar pihu kahe k sammy jump off the cliff toh wo jump karega..nhi karega ofcourse ...and the reason sammy married pihu was: to teach a lesson to suhani...he was not forced by anyone except pihu...he could have refused to marry pihu..kisi ne zabardastii thodi na ki thi...agar suhani ne kaha k she dont love him toh he'll go n marry someone else...it doesn't make any sense...n he is not bound to ram in any way k ram ki wajah se shaadi ki...ram ko khud sammy pasand nhi but beti ke liye haan kaha...ram ne khud pucha tha but he refused..infact everyone asked him but kisi ko nhi bataya toh isme ram kaise respnsible hai?

Secondly, Pihu is also responsible. Knowing that Sammy loves Suhani, how can she ignore all this and marry him and expect him to love her? She is the main reason for RaYa's seperation. How can a girl do this to her own parents? no doubt pihu is worse daughteer that any parent can have 😆...she wanted to marry just to satisfy her ego...aur jo pagal hota hai usey kuch samjha nhi sakte aur na usse akalmandi ki umeed kar sakte hai 🤣..pihu psycho hai..she loves herself n only herself..sammy ko bhi pyar nhi karti wo 😆

Next is Suhani madam, I don't understand that Sammy jaisa itna hot banda uske peeche kyun pada hai? I can't believe she is a doctor. And ab Kush ke peeche kyun padi hai? He is such a nice guy. He deserves someone so much better. Kya zaroorat thi mahaan banne ki? Apna love sacrifice karne ki? And after that she is crying. huh. yes sacrifice queen...sacrifice uske liye karna chahiye jo uska haqdar ho aur pihu ke liye sacrifice? as if pihu uski behen thi ya uski best friend..priya ne toh khud kaha tha k mere liye sacrifice karne ki zaroorat nhi phir bhi madam ko sacrifice ka bukhar tha...what i dont like about him is that she very well knows that sammy loves her but phir bhi sacrifice kiya..i mean jab aaapko pata hai k koi aapse bht pyar karta hai toh usey aise hi kisi aur ko de do ge aur wo bhi pihu jaisi ladki ko...suhani ko bhi pata tha k pihu obsessed hai sammy ke liye but khud apne haaton se sammy ko kunwe mai dhakel diya 😆

Don't blame Sammy for everything. Poor guy. I know now everyone will say he is responsible for this he is playing with two girls and all. But i don't think so. Stop blaming that guy for everything. Think twice before saying anything about him. He loves someone else and is forced to marry someone else. he was not forced by anyone ...every single person asked him but he always gave them lame excuses...toh iske liye toh sammy hi responsible hai na? agar sammy khud kehtta k mai pihu se pyar nhi karta aur usse shaadi nhi karunga toh ram khud ye shaadi nhi hone deta as being a father he will like his daughter marrying sumone who doesnt love her back ..the dif is ram trusted sammy n priya trusted suhani...as simple that...now dont blame k how ram can trust sammy 😆

from pihu's b'day party u just watch all the episodes once phir aaapko samjha aayega k sammy ko kyu bol rahe hai. and not only sammy , pihu n suhani are equally responsible 😛

Atleast he is trying to solve everything, trying to make Pihu happy whether it be for any reason. So in this whole situation, only Pihu is happy. no dear he is not trying to solve anything he is messing up everything...at any cost he want to prove suhani that he is happy with pihu aur pihu toh bewkoof hai..idiot jahan dimag lagana hai wahan nhi lagati hai aur bekar ki zidd mai dimag waste karti hai..i doubt k she has brain or not...artificial happiness de raha hai wo aur pihu usme bhi khush hai...silly girl 😆

Mela Sammy, everyone blames him always. Poor baccha 😭 sab sammy ko blame kar rahe hai for what he did n how he messed up everything n no one is blaming yuvraj (isiliye kaha kyunki forum pe jab bhi kisi character ko kuch bolte hai unke fans ko lagta hai k actor ko bol rahe hai 😆...they fail to understand that character n actor are diffferent😆)

Originally posted by: ShazK.123

"In every topic, people are blaming sammy" 🤣 obviously na, if he is to blame then we have every right to blame him... I personally think that because you are a Yuvraj fan, you can't bare to read anything bad about his character and that is blurring your opinion. But can i just remind you that we are talking about Sammy- the character not Yuvraj.

You're think Ram is responsible?

I'm not convinced by your attempt to justify this point. I'll tell you why... Ram is a father, fathers give their children everything the ask for... I get whatever I want from my father, whether its reasonable or unreasonable... yet I still know the difference between what is right and what is wrong... here's why- Parents are a small factor that shapes the way in which we are when we are older... other factors are involved in shaping who and what we become as adults. Let me hold this thought for a moment and mention a few other things first...

1) If Ram is responsible for Pihu turning out like this... because "jo chahiye pihu ko laake do"... then firstly ask yourself why? why does he give Pihu everything... he has been like this ever since she came into his life... the poor man missed out on 5 years of his daughter's life so he's bound to make up for this some other way... Kush was brought up by Ram- where are the kudos for Ram here? I'm sure Kush got everything he wanted to make up for the fact that his real father isn't around. So for this reason Ram's upbringing isn't the issue clearly...

2) If Ram is responsible, Priya is equally to blame as she has said herself that they both used to give her everything she wanted... but i don't think either one of them are to blame... Pihu is an adult, she has a mind of her own... again another point which i will explain later :-)

3) IF Ram is responsible for Pihu turning out like this, who is responsible for Sammy turning out the way he has... a manipulative, spineless, player? I guess Vikram is to blame for this na? seeing as the fathers are always responsible.

Ram is not responsible for THIS mess...

Okay he pushed Priya away when they were hugging. His mistake. but Priya also walked away from him. Her mistake... BUT WHY? because their daughter was about to commit suicide and she asked her father to choose between her an Priya. WHY? because she was manipulated...

so now i will explain the previous points i made where i said i'll explain later...

1) Different things shape who and what we become:

- Yes parents play a role in that, but as we grow up, we encounter different things, situations etc that will play an even bigger role in shaping us.

Situations: Pihu- She spent 5 years of her life without a father figure... so she has attachment issues- she becomes attached too quickly to things and people because of this... attachment issues in childhood translate into attachment issues as an adult in intimate relationships. No one is to blame for this however. She then Spent 7 years of her life without her mother, so she formed an attachment with someone else, thus, now that her mother is back, she is still slightly detached from her and is easily manipulated by others because of this.

Pihu has a mind of her own but is victim to manipulation by various people, who took advantage of her vulnerability... Varun, Juhi and Sammy.

Varun manipulated her- she thought he loved her, but he didn't but manipulated her to fulfil his revenge.

Juhi manipulated her- she was supposed to be a mother figure but Juhi has her own agenda, so she manipulated Pihu to achieve this.

Sammy: from the start has manipulated her, and fed her lies, he made Pihu believe he loved her- by saying sweet things to her, by agreeing with her when she says you love me, we'll grow old together etc etc... to get Suhani, he lied to Pihu... remember when Suhani was leaving he said to Pihu, get her to stay so that we can spend more time together, otherwise you will be busy in looking after your mother... to make Suhani jealous (before the SaSu "love" confession) he used Pihu, the dance, the whole thing where he took the flower out of the vase next to suhani and gave it to Pihu to make Suhani jealous, the leech necklace thing... there's too much to mention. All of this is the reason why Pihu believed Sammy loved her... THEN he doesn't refuse outright to marry Pihu, he says that he wants to sort his career out... again, making everyone assume that he will marry Pihu only after his career is sorted... how hard was it for him to say on the day he slept with Suhani, to everyone that he loves Suhani and will only marry her when he has a career? He then refuses to marry Suhani the day after but still wanted to continue their relationship... Suhani wanted to do things the right way and get married... but no... the commitment phobic boy just sleeps with her, tells her he loves her then ditches her and then when needed doesn't trust her.

Now, once Pihu found out about SaSu... Sammy was saying that he trusts Suhani blah blah blah, but when it came down to it, he didn't trust her (possibly because he doesn't want the responsibility of a child... he sleeps with the girl and then he's 100% sure that he didn't get her pregnant... there's something dodgy there... either Sammy knows he is infertile or he just stupid)

Anyway... if he loves someone else, why did he agree to marry Pihu? He's ruining 3 lives, 4 if we include the unborn child... And now he's married to Pihu, she's satisfied, and she is under the illusion that Sammy wants to be with her... but he isn't committed to the marriage... this isn't right... Marriage is special, sacred yet it's a joke to him because he is still fantasising about Suhani... he should have only married Pihu once Suhani was out of his mind completely... because like Pihu said he hasn't touched her in those 3 months... why? why did he marry her then? To get back at Suhani, to prove a point to Suhani... so now he will "move on" with Pihu to prove his point yet again... again manipulating Pihu... then somewhere down the line he'll ditch her when he knows the truth... so in all this, Sammy is at fault... he isn't trying to solve anything by making Pihu happy... if this was the case he would have done that 3 months ago... but he only made that decision once he saw Suhani and how happy she was with Kush... so he's doing it to prove a point again.

and like you said Suhani is to blame for he mahaan sacrifice mode... I won't argue with that.

So basically what i'm trying to say is Ram isn't to blame for this mess... he didn't tell Pihu to fall in love with Sammy, he didn't tell Sammy to fall in love with Suhani and then play with Pihu's emotions... He didn't tell Suhani to sacrifice... He didn't tell Sammy to get Suhani pregnant... so we can't blame Ram...

Blame is in this order:

1) Sammy

2) Suhani

3) Pihu

I hope i've made my point clear... and don't dwell on this too much, I'm blaming Sammy not Yuvraj so Yuvraj fans please relax... we all know who is responsible for this mess, and it's certainly not Ram... whether you admit it or not, its very clear who is at fault.

Originally posted by: ShazK.123

"In every topic, people are blaming sammy" 🤣 obviously na, if he is to blame then we have every right to blame him... I personally think that because you are a Yuvraj fan, you can't bare to read anything bad about his character and that is blurring your opinion. But can i just remind you that we are talking about Sammy- the character not Yuvraj.

You're think Ram is responsible?

I'm not convinced by your attempt to justify this point. I'll tell you why... Ram is a father, fathers give their children everything the ask for... I get whatever I want from my father, whether its reasonable or unreasonable... yet I still know the difference between what is right and what is wrong... here's why- Parents are a small factor that shapes the way in which we are when we are older... other factors are involved in shaping who and what we become as adults. Let me hold this thought for a moment and mention a few other things first...

1) If Ram is responsible for Pihu turning out like this... because "jo chahiye pihu ko laake do"... then firstly ask yourself why? why does he give Pihu everything... he has been like this ever since she came into his life... the poor man missed out on 5 years of his daughter's life so he's bound to make up for this some other way... Kush was brought up by Ram- where are the kudos for Ram here? I'm sure Kush got everything he wanted to make up for the fact that his real father isn't around. So for this reason Ram's upbringing isn't the issue clearly...

2) If Ram is responsible, Priya is equally to blame as she has said herself that they both used to give her everything she wanted... but i don't think either one of them are to blame... Pihu is an adult, she has a mind of her own... again another point which i will explain later :-)

3) IF Ram is responsible for Pihu turning out like this, who is responsible for Sammy turning out the way he has... a manipulative, spineless, player? I guess Vikram is to blame for this na? seeing as the fathers are always responsible.

Ram is not responsible for THIS mess...

Okay he pushed Priya away when they were hugging. His mistake. but Priya also walked away from him. Her mistake... BUT WHY? because their daughter was about to commit suicide and she asked her father to choose between her an Priya. WHY? because she was manipulated...

so now i will explain the previous points i made where i said i'll explain later...

1) Different things shape who and what we become:

- Yes parents play a role in that, but as we grow up, we encounter different things, situations etc that will play an even bigger role in shaping us.

Situations: Pihu- She spent 5 years of her life without a father figure... so she has attachment issues- she becomes attached too quickly to things and people because of this... attachment issues in childhood translate into attachment issues as an adult in intimate relationships. No one is to blame for this however. She then Spent 7 years of her life without her mother, so she formed an attachment with someone else, thus, now that her mother is back, she is still slightly detached from her and is easily manipulated by others because of this.

Pihu has a mind of her own but is victim to manipulation by various people, who took advantage of her vulnerability... Varun, Juhi and Sammy.

Varun manipulated her- she thought he loved her, but he didn't but manipulated her to fulfil his revenge.

Juhi manipulated her- she was supposed to be a mother figure but Juhi has her own agenda, so she manipulated Pihu to achieve this. u are good psychologist 😉 👏

Sammy: from the start has manipulated her, and fed her lies, he made Pihu believe he loved her- by saying sweet things to her, by agreeing with her when she says you love me, we'll grow old together etc etc... to get Suhani, he lied to Pihu... remember when Suhani was leaving he said to Pihu, get her to stay so that we can spend more time together, otherwise you will be busy in looking after your mother... to make Suhani jealous (before the SaSu "love" confession) he used Pihu, the dance, the whole thing where he took the flower out of the vase next to suhani and gave it to Pihu to make Suhani jealous, the leech necklace thing... there's too much to mention. All of this is the reason why Pihu believed Sammy loved her... THEN he doesn't refuse outright to marry Pihu, he says that he wants to sort his career out... again, making everyone assume that he will marry Pihu only after his career is sorted... how hard was it for him to say on the day he slept with Suhani, to everyone that he loves Suhani and will only marry her when he has a career? He then refuses to marry Suhani the day after but still wanted to continue their relationship... Suhani wanted to do things the right way and get married... but no... the commitment phobic boy just sleeps with her, tells her he loves her then ditches her and then when needed doesn't trust her.

Now, once Pihu found out about SaSu... Sammy was saying that he trusts Suhani blah blah blah, but when it came down to it, he didn't trust her (possibly because he doesn't want the responsibility of a child... he sleeps with the girl and then he's 100% sure that he didn't get her pregnant... there's something dodgy there... either Sammy knows he is infertile or he just stupid)

Anyway... if he loves someone else, why did he agree to marry Pihu? He's ruining 3 lives, 4 if we include the unborn child... And now he's married to Pihu, she's satisfied, and she is under the illusion that Sammy wants to be with her... but he isn't committed to the marriage... this isn't right... Marriage is special, sacred yet it's a joke to him because he is still fantasising about Suhani... he should have only married Pihu once Suhani was out of his mind completely... because like Pihu said he hasn't touched her in those 3 months... why? why did he marry her then? To get back at Suhani, to prove a point to Suhani... so now he will "move on" with Pihu to prove his point yet again... again manipulating Pihu... then somewhere down the line he'll ditch her when he knows the truth... so in all this, Sammy is at fault... he isn't trying to solve anything by making Pihu happy... if this was the case he would have done that 3 months ago... but he only made that decision once he saw Suhani and how happy she was with Kush... so he's doing it to prove a point again.

and like you said Suhani is to blame for he mahaan sacrifice mode... I won't argue with that.

So basically what i'm trying to say is Ram isn't to blame for this mess... he didn't tell Pihu to fall in love with Sammy, he didn't tell Sammy to fall in love with Suhani and then play with Pihu's emotions... He didn't tell Suhani to sacrifice... He didn't tell Sammy to get Suhani pregnant... so we can't blame Ram...

Blame is in this order:

1) Sammy

2) Suhani

3) Pihu

I hope i've made my point clear... and don't dwell on this too much, I'm blaming Sammy not Yuvraj so Yuvraj fans please relax... we all know who is responsible for this mess, and it's certainly not Ram... whether you admit it or not, its very clear who is at fault.

Originally posted by: peeyara

😲uff...itna bada likha 🤣