Ram has always taken Priya for granted - Page 2

Originally posted by: Miracle_lover

I agree that Priya is lost and also I feel she is jealous as she thinks her position as a wife and as a mother has been taken away by someone else in this case Juhi ! But so far Juhi has not done anything wrong or tried to take away Priya's authoity as a mother or wife. Priya is definitely right to think she wants to correct Pihu as she feels Pihu is going in a wrong direction. But her approach to Juhi was wrong because she needs to remember that Juhi has been taking care of her kids for 7 years in her absences so she does have right to say something here! Ram & Priya's kids call her Juhi ma so they have given her the mother's status. Priya cant just tell her to back off just cause she is back from coma now, she need to calmly talk things out with Juhi just like Juhi did with her when Priya was going to tell Ram everything. Right now if Priya feels Pihu is going in wrong direction she should tell Ram about it and try to make Juhi understand the situation. If for instance if Ayesha come out of no where and starts taking control of Khush obviously then people will say why is she bothering now and Priya has more right over him then his biological mother as Priya has taken care of him. Its the same case here. I feel as long as Juhi has not shown any negativity in her character I think there is no need for us to blame her and Priya to behave badly with Juhi. I agree with Ram's reaction on this one.

Originally posted by: pink27

I disagree I will explain my opinion/reason for it 😊

1) Priya is jealous of juhi - I feel its right because when she saw Juhi bonding with everyone Ram, Neha & Vikram she felt that it was her 7 years ago. That spot or the bonding that Juhi has with everyone was hers 7 years ago which is why she was away from them as she feels left out from the group but she failed to realize that no one can take her spot not even juhi. As Neha said everything is same as before but looking at Priya's situation it is justifiable for her to be jealous.

2) Ram has NOT done anything WRONG; I agree that him not telling priya the truth and not listening to Suhani's advice is his fault. But I am not supporting him for this. My point was specifically for the Precap where he was upset at priya. I agree with him being upset at priya as from his point of view Juhi has been a great support to him and his family so, its wrong of Priya to talk like that. If Priya had told Ram the truth right after she got her memory back maybe he would understand her reaction. But lets remember that he is still unaware of the truth and he trusts Juhi because of her loyal to him for the last 7 years and he feels he is in debt to her for that.

3) Juhi has not done anything negative/wrong: I disagree ! We can not identify Juhi as a negative character just cause she stopped Priya from telling Ram the truth and told Pihu to be careful. If that's the cause then Priya should be identified as a negative character as well, remember Priya was the first one to hide the truth from Ram right after she got back from Coma ! She said to pihu I will give you a chance to prove yourself as you said that' you have changed'. So according to you shouldn't Priya as a mother not hide Pihu's mistake ? This is the same thing with Juhi if Priya was hiding the truth from Ram so, what wrong did Juhi do ? I don't think Priya is supporting Pihu by hiding the truth but instead giving her a chance to prove herself just like Juhi is doing by telling her to be careful of her actions !

So it establishes one thing.Juhi had used Pihu and not raised her genuinely as a mother would.

So yes juhi is a negative character. I disagree !

Do we all agree that Priya is a great mother ? Then what went wrong with her parenting that Pihu has turned bad ? From Pihu's behavior and actions right now we can also tell that Priya as a mother has not raised Pihu genuinely therefore she is a negative character. But that's not true as we all know how carefully Priya has raised Pihu. As far as using Pihu I feel at the current moment its more like the kapoor mansion have used her instead the other way round. I dont feel Juhi needs to use Pihu at all as she has a strong bond with ram. So if she wants she can use him directly. But instead she has been involved with the kapoor family and has been proving support for them through 7 years.

I know Juhi might turn negative in the future but right now I don't see any of her actions being negative or bad. So right now I feel its unfair to be calling Juhi bad. Let wait until she actually does something bad or evil 😊

Edited by Miracle_lover - 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vishakupp

You seem to forget that priya has taken care of pihu for 16 yrs. all her formative years. Juhi should not interfere in priya pihu relationship. If she really loved priya then she would let priya handle pihu. Conda never really took care of khush like priya & when khush was young nobody was able to take khush away from ayesha. We still dont know story of how he came under priyas care. So cant compare the two situations

Originally posted by: Miracle_lover

I have not forgotten that Priya has taken care of Pihu for 16 years BUT isn't that her duty as a mother ? What duty does Juhi have for Pihu ? Juhi has nothing to do/ or has any obligations to take care of Pihu but she still did it out of love for pRIYA. Juhi is not her real mother so, taking care of someone else's child for 7 years is a big thing! In that sense she does have some say in this matter ! I am not saying she has full authority over Pihu but as she has been taking care of the kids she does get a say in it. Ram and kids have given her the status of a mother. Also at the moment we have not seen anything that Juhi is trying to take away Priya's authority or trying to push her away. She calmly tried to talk to her and requested her to make an exception, no a demand. So, its difficult to blame her right now.

As far as khush is concerned we can all pretty much guess that Ayesha left him or w/e. The two situations are being said because right now Priya has more authority over him because she took care of him. So, if she has some say in khush, Juhi should have a say NOT authority in terms of Pihu and other kids as she had taken care of them for 7 years ! Priya as a mother has full right to do w/e she wants with her kids but the way is spoke to Juhi is unacceptable as Juhi has not done anything wrong AT THE MOMENT.

Originally posted by: bpatil3

I would like to bring in some of the points here, i don'y how good is Juhi and how bad is Ram treating Priya.

Firstly, Juhi if she being a good friend, let her be in her limits, she doesn't get the license to enter Ram kapoor who happened to be her friend's hubby , people might ask even Neha does take care of ram, without any one's consent she enter his bedroom, take care of his dresses, perfumes, likes and dislikes of food, then why people are suspecting Juhi, the thing is Neha and Ram knew each other from their college days, Juhi knew ram hardly for 7 years and I don't think so any of ur wife's friend will be this cozy who will enter a man's bedroom , waits for his return with food in his bedroom, setting wardrobe.

Secondly, i understand Juhi has developed feelings for ram, its quiet natural, as she is been with him so long , nothing wrong in it. Whenver ram is around she tells him i m happy for you both , I am so happy priya is in our life back, on the other hand she sweetly diplomatically tells priya, her equation with Ram may get spoil, the exact word is connection with ram, Isn't that suspicious??

Yesterday, when priya was talking to Sid, when all these four some Neha,Vi,Ram n Juhi were sitting n laughing giving a stare to her what is it? when raya hugging what is that look she gave in one of the episodes?

Thirdly, some people arguing that Priya was so principled but still pihu was a spoil sport. and Juhi is a good mom when compared to Priya ok agreed. if Juhi being a good mom, ok i can understand she took care of Priya's kids fine one should be thankful for it. One thing is bothering me here, Pihu was not fully spoil sport when priya was around she did a biggest mistake of choosing the wrong way and doing the biggest blunder of wrong allegation of rape case, n varun ended dying, Priya wants to her correct her daughter, she tried to rectify but unfortunately she slipped in Coma, is it her fault? Juhi knew the truth what pihu did 7years back, Juhi is a friend of Shruti to she should equally be sorry for Shruti loosing her son, Ok i can undersatnd hiding truth from Ram is for the betterment of Pihu, bcoz father's get more agitated and angry in any home but she should have tried counselling pihu and rectifying her mistakes, why didn't she do that? she already admitted priya that she knew what happened in the past with Pihu, but she is not the same, priya agreed to her and kept quiet. Priya's only concern is Pihu is suffering from some mental pressure and she is spoiling her life herself choosing wrong ways? Doesn't she has that right too as a mom?strange yaar..

Juhi telling pihu be careful , means what ? do whatever you want but be careful so that it doesn't reach priya? If Juhi is a good friend and a concerned mother figure why is she not giving a thought or supporting priya to know the facts of pihu ,( if it is understood that pihu is fooling Juhi too).

Coming to ram, the Ram kapoor ko apni second wife Ayesha ko, uske room mein entry nhi thi, lekin Juhi asaani se aa jaa sakti hai, uski har cheez ki khayal rakh sakti hai, jab ayesha ko apni kisi bhi cheez ko choone nhi denewala insaan , apni biwi ki friend ko itni choot kaise de sakta hai?

Priya is feeling Jealous (as per few members) agar wo jealous ho rahi hai toh usko poora haq hai hone ka, but to be frank i m seeing her insecurities towards hubby n kids also she is suspecting if she coming back in ram's life is bothering ram n Juhi , she did ask this question directly, mere aane se kisiko bhi takleef nhi honi chahiye. If ram says a slightest thing to her she will leave him she stated this too, not bcoz some other woman is in his life, but because they don't have the love and the bonding.

And ram cannot expect priya to understand everything on herself, he should understand this, it is his responsibility to make her feel comfortable the same way he did the dinner part , to get her confidence back.

Mujhe aur ek baat bolni hai, Priya wants get control of everything and want to be the center of attraction, what is wrong in that, if she expecting that in her own home and from her own people?

It is not the point of being center of attraction, but looking for attention,care, love n dearness towards her she is trying to understand the changes, but all other members have to cooperate her in understanding things and cope up with it.

Originally posted by: Miracle_lover

I don't feel its right for anyone to say Juhi is a better mom then priya or vice verse. But when comparing the mistakes that both did or doing it can be said that they both tried to hide the fact that Pihu is going in the wrong path from Ram. If Priya's hiding the truth can be justified then Juhi requesting priya to keep it from Ram should be justified as well, as they both love Pihu and want her go in the right path (at least that's the vibe Juhi is giving right now, don't know about future). Pihu was not fully spoiled ? Come on yaar ... Forget Varun's part, she got Neha and Priya into a fight, their long term friendship went into garbage in one second just because she lied and made Neha a liar ! Pihu made Priya go against her family (Somya & even Ram upto certain point), Pihu was blaming priya for her spoiled behavior, she was questioning priya about her relationship with varun's dad. Which 15-17 year old daughter has the audacity to question their parents about their past relationships? only the spoiled ones ? If pihu learned a bit of good manners from her mom she would have said it to her dad in the last 7 years instead of trying to act like a good girl in front of Ram. Priya went to coma was not her fault but when she was out of coma and regained her memory way did she not tell Ram the whole truth ? DID Juhi stop her ? No, then Why didn't Priya do counselling with Pihu and rectified her mistakes by telling Ram when she regained her memory ? Both of them could have worked on it together. Instead she said she will try to trust Pihu that "she has changed" but now Priya is back to square one always threatening pihu of telling everything to Ram. I mean why didn't she do it the first time ? Hiding the truth from coming out isn't Priya also hurting her friend Shruti ? Juhi might be an emotional fool right now but Priya was well aware of her daughter so why did she hide it after she gained her memory back? Priya as a mother has every right and authority to do w/e she wants with her kids but that does not give her the right to look down on people. She could have talked to Juhi calmly instead of yelling her and telling her to stay out of her family matters. Hello it was Juhi who was taking care of your so called "family matters " for the past 7 years. If Ram or the family members did not allow her to take care of everything then she would not have the right to say anything today.

Lastly as I have said earlier and I still stand to it that priya is feeling jealous and I have also said that I agree it is understandable because of her situation. But she needs to understand no one can take her place not even juhi. As for other members to cooperate they are trying their best, Juhi is getting married to Sid not because of Naina but because of Priya. Everyone is keeping it a secret as well just so she can fit in.

To summarize I feel its unfair to be blaming Juhi's character at this point as she has not shown any solid proof of being negative or evil. Who knows maybe she might show it in tomorrows episodes but we don't know anything about that yet. So, pointing at her/blaming her for pihu's wrong actions and identifying her as a negative character is a bit harsh. We should just wait and see if she turns negative, which I am sure she might in the future 😊