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spatty123

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Posted: 14 years ago

#201

Another thing, Murli trying to criticize RA and looking at Sudha as a wronged wife will only make him look as a hypocrite. Yes I totally understand that Sudha should not go thrugh what is happening to her and it is anybody's duty to stand up against violence. But the way he is being shown as a sensitive and a responsible guy wrt to Sudha is really hard for me to digest. Where was his understanding and sensible nature when he wanted to get married to Bharti for her money. Today in his conversation with Sudha in the hospital he said , "maine apne swarth ke liye paise kasie le liye?? And then he wanted to return that money (which is HIS by the way) to Sudha to protect her but why did he not think of the same thing before getting married to Bharti. Is it because he looks at Bharti as some 'airi gairi dwarf' who does not have any right to a normal married life and Sudha as a normal girl. I know I am biased because I have seen him hurting Bharti...

I also know some will think that he did not physically hurt Bharti but then the stress and emotional hurt she had to go through for no fault of hers is no less than physical torture for me. The current track will only make sense if some how (I dont know how) Sudha will help him in realising what he did to Bharti was wrong.

Edited by spatty123 - 14 years ago

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ghotalaz

@ghotalaz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#202

@ spatty123

i agree here that murli helping out sudha is a bit weird for me. i know he has been shown as a good person though a bad husband. & yes he never physically abused bharti but definitely yelled at her many times. when he used to shout at her, i really wished bharti would defend herself saying murli married her for money & now he's ruined her life so that she could make murli feel like a culprit, i was really disappointed when bharti never could speak up for herself. in fact bharti should have slapped murli when he was behaving with her like that😒

maybe yes he views sudha as a human being & he just saw bharti as a midget or what... either murli knows or CVs know it😕

well even if murli had behaved properly with bharti & had reated her like a human being if not his wife then it would have been slightly better. but murli seemed to lose all respect for bharti & now suddenly he's standing up for the rights of somebody's else's wife

i agree with Vrish that sudha doesn't deserve this treatment, but somewhere deep inside i'm just not convinced with murli helping her out👎🏼 well let's see how the CVs take this track convincingly... i just hope it's good & sudha is saved.

i agree with Vrish that sometimes the TB articles prove to be wrong. let's see what kind of role sudha will play in murli's life.

hey what if she's a catalyst in making murli realize that he did wrong to bharti & should bring her back in his life??? what if after knowing bharli's story she tells murli to bring back bharti? has anybody thought about this???😕

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JaZzs

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Posted: 14 years ago

#203

so some serious discussion is going on 😆

vik u r right ...i thought the same thing amit and sudha are nothing but mediators on two sides to bring back bharli together 🤢 .... it is a typical storyline i'll not disappoint myself by expecting something like murli falling for sudha and bharti for amit .... after watching a few soaps i'm sure it will be bharli at the end 😆 .... sudha will make him repent for what he did to bharti and amit would advice bharti to return back to her sasural 😡 (till then there will be so much of drama 😆) ..

no doubt after the revelation of prakash's truth bansi would start his bhashans 🤢 and veena dumroo and kamla also would contribute from their side 😆 .... i'm hating veena more and more 😡😆 when murli needed money to start his business everybody including dumroo contributed something but veena stood there simply, rolling her eyes 😆 might be with the fear that they might ask her jewels (she must be having since she almost got married 🤔 ) ..when murli was still short of money she chimed in and said lets start business with what he has 😆 and yesterday she asked murli to not to worry about sudha after hearing everything from murli on how RA is torturing her 😡 (may be again due to the same fear ) ..she is simply selfish from the beginning 🐷

and its true that murli should not have accused rupesh for pimping his duaghter..it was him who was actually pimped by his family 😆 .... rupesh should have pointed it out to him instead of simply shouting and slapping him ...

Originally posted by: vik rocks
i hope now after jhumka it's not sudha's turn for damroo LOL! sorry bad joke😳

🤣🤣🤣 i felt the same 🤣🤣🤣 ..i was like oh no now dumroo is eyeing on her..pl spare her 🤣🤣🤣
i know everybody likes jhumroo but i never..... i dnt this like pagal half-budda always gawking and going behind a innocent childish girl ...hope she leaves their house soon ..she definitely deserves someone better than dumroo ....(i remember dumroo is elder than mirdang ..during veena's wedding when pundit called for her elder bro dumroo came forward )..if jhumki marries him ..gau's younger sis will become her jethani 🤣... gau deserves it but not poor innocent jhumki ...

Edited by --jas-- - 14 years ago

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JaZzs

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Posted: 14 years ago

#204

dunno y everybody are saying murli illtreated bharti , & not even respected her as human so he dnt deserve to stand up for sudha and help her .....when was he like that 😕....he disliked bharti but he fulfilled his duties of a good husband except physical relationship ,(even that was not intentional) .... he fought for her during their honeymoon when somebody made fun of her ..... he made her feel secure with him .... he not only fulflled his duties of a husband but a good son in law also by helping rupesh re-establish his business once again (thngs worsened only after she called-off veena's wedding and some of rupesh's actions )....... there is no point of saying murli dont deserve to preach RA the duties of a good husband...RA is a beast 😡....i know murli was yelling at bharti at some point ,since i havent watched those epis i cant comment 😒..when i saw he was nice to her after marriage when they were at their small house and after he brought back bharti when she went missing irresponsibly by simply walking away 🤢 he respected her..dnt know what happened inbetween ....i think there must be some reason for his change of behaviour 🤔 after marriage..had i watched would have pointed it out 😔

and he never had any pre-plan of ditching bharti after marriage....he tried his best but unfortunately couldnt (it was not his fault....he married her due to pressure but he never thought he would never get any feelings towards her 😒 ).... his decision of breaking his marriage with bharti was not a bad one ....it had bharti's benefits also..instead of living with a hubby who would never have a relationship with her she could move on. (no doubt murli would have returned her money and house back if ther were no misunderstandings)....if he was greedy he would have never honestly opted for breaking-up instead he would have been treacherous to her.... they would have parted on good terms if she wasnt involved on stopping veena's wedding ,of course every marriage couldnt be successful.... it was bharti who ridiculed herself by trying to seduce murli after deciding for a divorce and made him rebuff her....

it is unfair to say murli illtreated his wife and he dont deserve a second chance in his life.....

coming to murli's reaction on seeing amrati together , i think it is not jealous but something like when u notice a person who continued to love u one-sidedly for quite a long time with someone else soon after u completely reject her/him and he/she becomes aware that u would never be theirs' ...... it belittles their image and ur respect for their one-sided love in ur heart ..thats what murli must have felt.....😃

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ghotalaz

@ghotalaz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#205

@ jas

welcome back!!! it's great to have you back🤗 especially when the discussion is really serious😆

actually people view me to be doing nepotism & favoritism with murli so i thought chalo aaj murli ki burai karhi lete hain LOL! 😆

but i agree with you. murli was a good son-in-law though he wasn't a good husband. yes he tried to be soft with bharti after knowing her father's loss in business, but he somehow always felt uncomfortable being physical with her. i won't really blame him &

don't remind me that bharti seduces murli track!!!😡😆😆 i hated that track👎🏼

it was after veepra's broken marriage that got on his nerves. but actually i won't even blame the Lal family here. it was mridala who brought prakash so the family didn't think the need to do any investigation about prakash coz at that time mridala were a star in their eyes for bringing a var for veena & veena liked him too. so obviously they suspected bharti over there. but... at least they should have given bharti one chance to explain everything.

people go blind in anger & can't differentiate between right & wrong, that's exactly happened with the Lal family, they were so angry with veena's wedding being stopped & to worsen things when veena tried to commit sucide, it was like putting kerosene in the fire. making bharti's life even more difficult. poor girl!

but i really liked one thing what you said. it's better for bharti to find someone else who could fulfill all the duties of a husband rather than staying with someone whole life who can't fulfill all her needs. that's good on his part to separate with bharti & let her move on in life👍🏼

well, i don't think murli demanded the house in greed. if he was clever & greedy then murli should have demanded either for his 50% share or the entire business to be in his name. at least it would be a source of income for him. but murli showed his stupidity or i don't know what😵by choosing the house along which comes expenses of all kinds of utilities, tax, etc. 😲if he had chosen the business at least he wouldn't have been wandering here & there for work, he could have easily found a place to live with his family🤔

but now that sudha is a friend of bharti, what can we expect now?🤢 definitely she'll try to convince murli to accept bharti👎🏼 & maybe amarti will solve the case & reveal prakash's truth then the entire Lal family will pressurize murli to accept bharti..👎🏼 poor murli

one thing that i don't understand is that how can bharti live happily ever after with murli if murli accepts her only under pressure😕

it's only if murli accepts her whole-heartedly without any kind of pressure but out of his own willingness, then only bharti can be happy with murli

otherwise it's plain stupidity to bring bharli together just by putting thousands of pressures on murli from all sides👎🏼 coz that'll be ruining bharti's life at the end of the day

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Vrish

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Posted: 14 years ago

#206

I think that Sudha and Amit may indeed try and bring Bharli together. But it would be fine for Murli to apologize to Bharti for treating her and her family badly, but nonetheless telling her that since he had no attraction for her, it would be unfair to her for him to try and resurrect that marriage. He could also tell her that Amit deserves her love & loyalty more than he does. Conversely, Bharti could tell him that Sudha needs him more than she does, and besides, he wouldn't be embarrassed by Sudha the way he was w/ Bharti.

This sort of an ending would be like that of Sarvagunn Sampann, where the lead jodi, like here, were split, and each found new partners. At the end of the serial, Swara married KK, and did not return to Adi. There too, Deepali and KK tried to get Swaditya back together, but Swara refused KK's offer to call off their wedding, and Aditya apologized to Deepali for ignoring her for the last 8 years.

Similarly here, even if Amit & Sudha attempt otherwise, Murli can marry Sudha and Bharti Amit, and the 2 families can still reconcile and become friends. Just b'cos they reconcide doesn't mean that Bharli has to end up together after it's all over & done. Bharti would get Amit who believes her over everybody else, and at the end of it, triumphantly tell her father 'Baba aiso varr dhoondo'. The serial may then end w/ Amarti marrying 👍🏼

Edited by _Vrish_ - 14 years ago

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JaZzs

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Posted: 14 years ago

#207

Originally posted by: _Vrish_
I think that Sudha and Amit may indeed try and bring Bharli together. But it would be fine for Murli to apologize to Bharti for treating her and her family badly, but nonetheless telling her that since he had no attraction for her, it would be unfair to her for him to try and resurrect that marriage. He could also tell her that Amit deserves her love & loyalty more than he does. Conversely, Bharti could tell him that Sudha needs him more than she does, and besides, he wouldn't be embarrassed by Sudha the way he was w/ Bharti.

👏👏👏👏👏👏 i too want this to happen 👍🏼 but no hope 😒

Originally posted by: vik rocks
it's only if murli accepts her whole-heartedly without any kind of pressure but out of his own willingness, then only bharti can be happy with murli

bharti will be happy but what about murli 😒 .... he didnt loved bharti not because she is bad but for her short height.....this time also murli will be pressurized from deep within his heart 😒 .... jaye kuch bi ho bharti would never grow and murli would never shrink lol😆

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JaZzs

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Posted: 14 years ago

#208

today's was a worst twist 🐷 ..... then sudha could have got help from neelam long back 🤔 or atleast now she can contact her or bharti and stay at their house not at a total stranger murli's house ..nothing looks logical now 😕 ....
it would be good only if they start some love track between murli and sudha along with sudha helping murli in establishing his tent house 👍🏼
since murli said no normal man would marry a midget they may not show bharti ending up with amit....anyway i dont care about bharti i want sudha to be with murli 😃 ....sudha is the acutual pitiable one not bharti....
honestly nowadays bharti scenes r making me feel 🥱😵

today again dumroo was annoying 😡😡😡😡..he himself is flirting with jhumki but accusing murli for bringing sudha that too after hearing her story 🐷
i think murli's family would be unhappy coz if he dares to marry sudha then they may not be able to sell him again to some other rich disabled girl 😆

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spatty123

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Posted: 14 years ago

#209

Originally posted by: --jas--

dunno y everybody are saying murli illtreated bharti , & not even respected her as human so he dnt deserve to stand up for sudha and help her .....when was he like that 😕....he disliked bharti but he fulfilled his duties of a good husband except physical relationship ,(even that was not intentional) .... he fought for her during their honeymoon when somebody made fun of her ..... he made her feel secure with him .... he not only fulflled his duties of a husband but a good son in law also by helping rupesh re-establish his business once again (thngs worsened only after she called-off veena's wedding and some of rupesh's actions )....... there is no point of saying murli dont deserve to preach RA the duties of a good husband...RA is a beast 😡....i know murli was yelling at bharti at some point ,since i havent watched those epis i cant comment 😒..when i saw he was nice to her after marriage when they were at their small house and after he brought back bharti when she went missing irresponsibly by simply walking away 🤢 he respected her..dnt know what happened inbetween ....i think there must be some reason for his change of behaviour 🤔 after marriage..had i watched would have pointed it out 😔

and he never had any pre-plan of ditching bharti after marriage....he tried his best but unfortunately couldnt (it was not his fault....he married her due to pressure but he never thought he would never get any feelings towards her 😒 ).... his decision of breaking his marriage with bharti was not a bad one ....it had bharti's benefits also..instead of living with a hubby who would never have a relationship with her she could move on. (no doubt murli would have returned her money and house back if ther were no misunderstandings)....if he was greedy he would have never honestly opted for breaking-up instead he would have been treacherous to her.... they would have parted on good terms if she wasnt involved on stopping veena's wedding ,of course every marriage couldnt be successful.... it was bharti who ridiculed herself by trying to seduce murli after deciding for a divorce and made him rebuff her....

it is unfair to say murli illtreated his wife and he dont deserve a second chance in his life.....

coming to murli's reaction on seeing amrati together , i think it is not jealous but something like when u notice a person who continued to love u one-sidedly for quite a long time with someone else soon after u completely reject her/him and he/she becomes aware that u would never be theirs' ...... it belittles their image and ur respect for their one-sided love in ur heart ..thats what murli must have felt.....😃

No body says that Murli should not stand up for Sudha, he should and for that matter anybody should. I sympathise with Sudha completely. But what is pissing most people off including me is Murli's hypocricy. The way he is trying to be selfless and help Sudha by giving her His money is really making him a hypocrite. Where was this selflessness when he wanted to marry Bharti for her money and spoil her life. Yes I agree with you, Murli's character was always shown as decent and helpful. He was always shown to help others including Bharti before his marriage and even on their honeymoon and he also helped his F-I-L because of his helping nature. But he never was a good husband for Bharti.. From the very first day, he was acting very indifferent towards her. He could not bring himself to even look at her normally. He was always filled with disgust whenever he saw her climbing on table to look in the mirror etc. You say that he was respectful but I think we all are forgetting that the time he was shown acting normally was the time period before Veena's marriage. He wanted to call off his marriage with Bharti but because of Veena's impending marriage they had decided to postpone their separation. So he acted cool because somewhere he knew that the relationship will be ending soon. Had Bhart not agreed to do so do you think he would have been acting so cool and respectfully. I doubt. And it is Murli's fault for getting married to Bharti. No body forced him to marry her although they did not oppose vehemently but he could have cancelled it before the wedding happened and nobody would have blamed him. Bharti had alos given him a chance to walk away before their marriage but he did not. It was his decision. And don't tell me he wanted to work on this marriage later on. The way he was repulsed when Rupesh first mentioned marriage should have told him he would never love her. I don't like this way of thinking. "Okay I don't like her because of her short height but I will marry her, use her money to get my sister married off and then MAYBE I will fall in love." This is no justification. And if he was not planning to ditch her then what was he planning to do? keep Bharti in a loveless marriage? And for a moment lets agree he wanted to work on his marriage then why so soon after his wedding did he tell Bharti that he cant make this marriage work. Those who want to try and keep their marriage alive take time to do so. It doesn't happen over night.

But I agree with you, Murli does deserve a second chance where he can love selflessly. Its what he did with Bharti that made me angry at him. I am glad Bharti has moved on. I don't even want to see them together at the end.

Edited by spatty123 - 14 years ago

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ghotalaz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#210

wow what an episode(15th march) bharti finds about neelam from sudha but neelam doesn't go to pay a visit to sudha but surely bharti does & what does she do in the hospital. talking on the phone rather than staying with bharti & that also in a hospital👎🏼 & the best twist was sudha being bharti's lost & found friend...😡waah kya dosti hain dono mein😆 the CVs seriously couldn't think of something else🤢

the domestic violence through what sudha is going is a sensitive issue not some kind of joke😡 what are the CVs trying to do?😕 is this a story of a girl who faces problems bcoz of her short height & her struggle or is this a love story that coincidences take place to make the boy meet gal👎🏼

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