Mahabharat of B. R. Chopra: Discussions/ DT note pg 119 - Page 24

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: proteeti

Mahabharata, as emphasized by Vyasa, was an extraordinary book containing the teachings of the 4 Veda and the 18(?) Upa-vedas compiled in an easy-to-understand and entertaining manner.

I once read an article which said ke in the start of Kali yuga, the Brahmans were lost in their ego and denied Shudras and women the right to study or even listen to the Vedas!

So, Veda Vyasa decided that instead of fighting pointlessly with those Brahmans, he would write such a book, which will extend the knowledge of the 4 Vedas, and more, to those oppressed and suppressed by the conservative Brahmanical society. 😊

Mahabharata is Itihaas which literally translates into 'I have witnessed it'. The book is all that life is. It is very complex and there are no easy answers to the questions that it raises.

The Bhagavadagita, which is a part of Mahabharata, is the crisp juice of all the Vedas and Upanishadas.

Brahmanical society actually became very oppressive especially for women and shudras. To think that a Brahmin wrote it and criticized the norms established by a handful of his own clan is commendable👏

All the social reformers, from Rammohan Roy to Dayanand Saraswati to Swami Vivekananda, condemned caste system and acknowledged that it is against the ethos of the Vedas (which were written by the brahmins but later on distorted by some other brahmins for power).

Initially the caste system was based on one's karma or job and wasn't oppressive but later on it became rigid and limiting.

I really want to see the day where we stop associating ourselves with our caste. That would be the real tribute to this great civilization and it's teachings.

Hare Krishna!

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Posted: 5 years ago

Just discovered that there's a thing called Yayati Complex. It's the willingness to sacrifice one's own happiness, pleasure, and freedom under the belief that parents and their happiness is supreme.

This complex is deeply ingrained in the Indian culture since Vedic times.

Edited by Wistfulness - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa

Haan true that.

Yayati did make way too many mistakes though. And we will discuss it soon :p


Waiting for it! 😉


Originally posted by: sonnet11

Mahabharata is Itihaas which literally translates into 'I have witnessed it'. The book is all that life is. It is very complex and there are no easy answers to the questions that it raises.

The Bhagavadagita, which is a part of Mahabharata, is the crisp juice of all the Vedas and Upanishadas.

Brahmanical society actually became very oppressive especially for women and shudras. To think that a Brahmin wrote it and criticized the norms established by a handful of his own clan is commendablesmiley32


I've always loved Vyasa's silent resilience. Even in the story, look at how he continually elevated people from mixed castes and lower castes: like Vidura, Karna, (due to his upbringing) even Krishna!


Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Just discovered that there's a thing called Yayati Complex. It's the willingness to sacrifice one's own happiness, pleasure, and freedom under the belief that parents and their happiness is supreme.

This complex is deeply ingrained in the Indian culture since Vedic times.


TELL. ME. MORE. 😳

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Posted: 5 years ago

O my Lord! What Devki and Vasudeva must have gone through. It is chilling! The actor playing kans is👏

Finally Krishna❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: proteeti


Waiting for it! 😉



I've always loved Vyasa's silent resilience. Even in the story, look at how he continually elevated people from mixed castes and lower castes: like Vidura, Karna, (due to his upbringing) even Krishna!

And Eklavya. And the queer (third gender) Shikhandin.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: KrishnaPriyaa

The point about Krishna and Balarama is, both of them well know who they are.

Dau knows who He is, and He has to act as He has to due to how Destiny is meant to be.

Every single action between the brothers is a Leela they play; Dau's impulsive action (which is actually not too many) has its own reasons and Tattva behind it.


I totally agree and that's the beauty of this thing and their relation!!

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: sonnet11

And Eklavya. And the queer (third gender) Shikhandin.


ahhh the great Shikhandi who is resp for the fall of the mightiest Ganga putra!!

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Posted: 5 years ago

I'm loving all the metaphors! Even the rains and storms were only showering their love onto Kanha! ❤️

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Originally posted by: sonnet11

And Eklavya. And the queer (third gender) Shikhandin.


It might be that things are supposed to happen this way, but somewhere in all this Ekalavya and karna suffered really bad. Arjun was in the right path and that is bec he was strayed to walk in that path. Who was there for Karna or Ekalavya. It makes me think that what if they indeed given the chance proved to be superior than Arjun??

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: proteeti

I'm loving all the metaphors! Even the rains and storms were only showering their love onto Kanha! ❤️


And yamuna touching the Lord's feet :) .. you feel that moment and that happiness when something pure graces the earth!! hai na??

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