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Posted: 17 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: |x|snowy|x|

khushi i get wat u mean
i dnt get the ppl who copy dnt they feell guilty or anithing


i think we should have hall of shame

shame the people who copy .. that way they will feel bad

i kno thats kind of bashin

but all i cn think of is a post of hall of shame


😆 sounds good, except there's a problem w/ that..the fact that WHO would b the moderator for that, and how to organize such a thing
plus, it's a form of bashing other members so it might b an issue w/ the IF community. I wanna def. do something about this issue though..it's worth a shot!

Originally posted by: Tumhari_Khushi

It does hurt, but after two years one learns to ignore it and rather 'laugh' over it. Sometimes I even feel bad for those who feel the need to copy...sometimes I don't even have the time to feel hurt :S Sounds weird but is true, lol.

Those who wish to post their POV, please do so as long as this topic is open. I see that some members haven't added their 2 cents :)


yea, i'm glad this topic is open, because i think it'll be useful to figure out a way to get out of this problem.
Also, i'm sorry that you feel hurt and i also admire how u can overcome it and be a greater person about it. I hope others understand the importance of dealing w/ these copying issues.
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Posted: 17 years ago
#32

My suggestion to prevent STEALING & COPYING: i'm not sure whether this can be done or not.. but we can get this suggestion acrossed to vijay bro who can then try to make it possible. well, my simple suggestion is that if you see a member copying or cutting your creations, then a PM can be spent to the mod of avi & siggy section.. and then the mods can make it impossible for that copying/cutting member to visit avi & siggy section. for example, moderator section - this section can only be visited by certain members, so we can have something like that.

please leave your comments to this suggestion.

Thamizhan

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Posted: 17 years ago
#33

tham...: although a good idea, i doubt its feasible. consider this, there are 300,000+ forum members, how can the admin have the time to restrict and give access to so many members? they do have a life offline as well. we really cant put more work on them just to stop this.

now the issue about copying -- i already posted here before, but i'll repeat. you cannot do anything about it. its not like we haven't tried. this issue is as old as this section. its not going to go away. we started IR (individuality rocks) a group that had the purpose to stop copying (see links: disccusion in this section: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/avatar-and-signatures-shop/401595/plz-support-n-put-an-end-to-this-c-pg-11, group formed: https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=402791&T PN=1 ) the problem with it was ...you cannot define a perfect line between what is copying and what is inspiration. the result of having judges to decide what is and what isn't is also a problem. how are you sure that the judge is correct in their judgement? no one is perfect enough to make the perfect judgement. the result of all that was ppl getting hurt and a lot of problems otherwise that caused us to close the club.

the only thing you can do to STOP copying, is to STOP cutting. thats all that you can do. seriously. we have discussed it so many times in the section, we do not have a solution that will be fair to all members and that will still keep the place as welcoming as it is now. now all you have to do to STOP cutting is to report the member to the moderator of this section. that is not a hard task, and it will seriously keep the cutting problem in check. Being an ex-dev team member of A&S, I know that when a member cuts he/she directly breaks the rules of the section, breaking rules of the section results in a warning level raise. 90% of the time the member wont repeat the mistake, cause if they do, we raise the level again. So, moderators have the rights to keep things in check. Trust in them and do YOUR PART by reporting those members (with as much proof as possible...directly report their post using the report button if required or PM) the moderators and help them keep the section as free from copying as possible.

Edited by sweet_kp - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#34
I second everything said by Khair. At te moment I'm still the section's Mod so please PM me with any doubts and I'll try to help.
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Posted: 17 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: desigrl05

wow, i didnt' know that copying could go that far! that sucks!! but its a good idea to put your copyright sign in the middle so much can't be done to them... as for copying, I don't think its good for anyone to do such and if you're "inspired" by another siggy maker, do say so, thats the best way to go

woahi didnt kno that, from now on im putting my copyright in the middle😳but cn sum 1 giv me like a clear example about copying?(is it about the way u use brushes/textures/layout of sig/fontsor something else😳?)

Edited by saira_1 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: sweet_kp

tham...: although a good idea, i doubt its feasible. consider this, there are 300,000+ forum members, how can the admin have the time to restrict and give access to so many members? they do have a life offline as well. we really cant put more work on them just to stop this.


well, all the members can visit sig
and avi section now - if a member
complains about another member
coping to the mod then they can
ban the member from this section only.

i think you misunderstood my post
because members already have access
to this section and i can also be blamed
for your misunderstanding because my
exmaple wasn't a very good one!!😉

you made a good point about the mods
having to make decisions about copying.
i think khusi and (..) are good at making
decisions and ofcourse that's the reason
why they're moderators!!😉 i think certain
rule can be made about how to complain. for
example, the complaining member should
show proof to support there complaint - their
original signature & the ...!!😃

i think this is the only way to atleast reduce
cutting/copying @ india-forums!!

note to the moderators: please.. open a thread
telling people to add from whom they got the
inspiration from if they did because many people
are unaware of these things. i'm sorry if there is
a topic already posted about this, but i haven't
ready any post regardinf this issue so far!!😉

Thamizhan

Edited by ~*Thamizhan*~ - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: saira_1

woahi didnt kno that, from now on im putting my copyright in the middle😳but cn sum 1 giv me like a clear example about copying?(is it about the way u use brushes/textures/layout of sig/fontsor something else😳?)


well, that is the argument here - whether the
things you've mentioned can be considered as
copying or as inspiration?

the simple answer is that you can give credits
to the members who inspired you. for example,
i made the signature below after being inspired
by khushi.

eventhough they don't look similar you can
identify some same elements - flowers & text
(in the earlier avi's i had my creation name just
like khushi's).. in this case - credit should be
given to khusi dear.😉

but khusi herself don't think there are any
similarities - here goes another issue!!😆

thamizhan

Edited by ~*Thamizhan*~ - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#38
^kk,i will edit 1st page of my shop 😉 😳
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Posted: 17 years ago
#39
i actually got what ur post was saying. banning members from sections takes a LOT of work. only admins have the right to do that, and there are TWO admins only. Sree dii already has a lot to do with promotions and telly buzz and a lot of other admin responsibilities. vijay is always busy adding new features to the forum. either of them are not free enough to make this section restricted. all other sections are not restricted, why should A&S be restricted?

other sections (shows/serials) have problems where there are fights b/w celebrity fans, we can't ban the member just from that section. if they misbehave they are banned from IF entirely.

im not saying your idea is bad, im saying it takes a lot of work to do this and being an issue that can be solved just by reporting to the moderator (who will increase their WL for CUTTING...copying is not easily defined as i said before.) taking that much effort is all thats required, why go the extra step when its not needed?

as far as the avatar goes, it is different. khushi's has borders all around, yours' doesn't. we all learn by looking at examples and then putting in the extra effort to look different.

I think we should not discuss specific cases. Lets just discuss the topic in general and not try to check whether each one of the members are copying or inspired or what not....
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Posted: 17 years ago
#40
yes i have seen pppl crop the sig. makers name off a sig and then they write there own name thatz just soo stupid! 😡

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