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Posted: 20 years ago
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Hi guys,

When I posted my thoughts from yesterday's episode, I figured that may be Aastha gets wild and in the heat of the moment she says things that she doesn't know.

But after watching tonight's episode, I feel that Aashta should be sent to military crap. Quite honestly if I was a mom and I brought up a girl like Aastha, firstly I would be ashamed to be her parent. I would do society a favor and send her off to boarding or obedient school.

I have sympathy for this girl. She has been through a lot and if I found out that my mom was lying, yes I would be furious, yes I would doubt her, but now I would give her a chance to explain before I open called her a characterless woman in front of other people including her father. I would never every in my wildest dreams, talk to her with such disrespect. The grief she has put Simran through is just not right.

  • Look at how much Simran cries? Why does she have to take that from her 18 year old daughter? Who speaks like that to anyone? I can understand a slip of the tongue, but she called her that again and again.
  • Then she talk's to her nanu so rudely. She has no manners to talk to her grandfather.
  • Sid, and Urmila are there too. But they all maintain their cool. In the last episode, Sia got upset, but you don't see her yelling and screaming that Aastha. Why, because they have respect for Aastha and know how to act appropriately.
  • She insults Sia's upbringing and accuses Sid of lying and what not. Including Urmila too.
I blame Simran for a lot of things. One, as to why she hid these things from her. She should has told her everything thing from the beginning.

In addition, I don't why she didn't attempt to ever pick up her hand again to hit Aastha and defend herself.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Totally agree with you..she is without a doubt a brat. I felt sorry for her for couple of episodes when she found out abuout simran but now it's getting ridiculous. She is just plain rude. The way she treats everyone around her is just sad. Simran is just too nice

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Posted: 20 years ago
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I was disgusted with Asthas behavior in todays episode, i had read the updates from india but never in my wildest dreams did i think she could be so vile and venomous. Okay simran has lied and hidden facts but does any child talk to a parent in this manner. Just imagine those who are defending Astha, if simran says something and astha doesnt like it or agree with it , would it be okay for astha to slap simran, this is worse than slapping her physically.

I'm sure we have all had difficult moments with our parents, at times we know they are blatantly wrong and unjustified in what they are saying but does that mean we start demeaning our parents in such a way or insulting them in such a manner. As a teenager i had many close encounters with my parents in which i knew that some of their thoughts and actions were absolutely unreasonable, would i stand up and humiliate them in this manner, Sorry i cant condone this, today being married and the mother of 2 kids I still know my limits and dont cross the line when talking with my parents, I am not backward or anything cos sometimes when you stick to your values and behave in a modest way some people have pretty colorful words for you like behanji and so on, I was pretty westernised while growing up, thought i belonged to a hip crowd, but this behavior, my God I would rather die then talk to my parents like this.I dont think even westerners whom some people in india so voraciously ape would be so disrespectful to their parents.

Has simran abused this kid in any way, tortured her in any way, exploited her , treated her like a second class citizen? Other than the lies in which other way has simran hurt astha, she gave her the best of everything and loved her with every fiber of her being and this slip of a girl talks such nonsense with her, simrans fault is putting up with this for far too long, enough is enough, I had some hope for astha and had even started feeling some empathy for her but this kid is pure NASTY inside and out.If my daughter talked to me in this manner I would teach her a lesson she would not be able to forget , simran needs to gather herself and get some courage back into her and not act like a spineless jellyfish. Parents yield to kids demands, expectations and expect nothing but love and respect in return, this has gone on long enough, Simran needs to enervate herself and knock some sense into this ingrate and persumptuous wretch.Sorry for all this rambling but i am So miffed with asthas behavior today.Asthas petulance and insolence must be stopped ASAP and either she changes her rambunctious behavior or goes and lives with her Nani, DIsgusting, totally disgusting, there are some parameters that kids can NEVER EVER cross.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Respecting parents and to be an obedient child....its all happen to be in a peaceful, worry-free family.....but in case of Aastha-Simran ...the matter is so complicated b/w daughter and mother just becuz of the lies of Simran. I still don't blame Aastha becuz I have seen so many teenagers, who always raise their voice against any injustice or cheating even if its from their Real parents and Aastha got those lies from her so called mother....and I will again say that not all the children are obedient and respectful to their elders....this generation is VERY straight forward,they can never tolerate any type of injustice..I think its all Simran's fault by not telling anything to her when she was so mad and calling her characterless,she could defend herself but she din't say anything but crying becuz she was at fault that time, all that situation was created by Simran basically ,thats why she could'nt say a word to Aastha ,whatever she told about Simran was VERY TRUE..just like the same way when Manas was giving her harsh words of being a second woman in Neha-Abhi's life, she could 'nt say a word becuz he was right at that time though she realized that later..whenever someone shows a mirror to Simran,she always start crying,never say a single word becuz she knows its all her fault.
Aastha did and said everything in front of everyone becuz she was staright forward but what about Simran? Is she a good daughter who is hiding so many Major changes in her life from her father and even when she got married to Abhi in her 30's, she din't inform her parents,and so many times she became harsh with her father just becuz she always considered herself on the right path. I think Aastha's straight to the point behaviour is much better than Simran's Cunning behaviour.
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpio_pk

Respecting parents and to be an obedient child....its all happen to be in a peaceful, worry-free family.....but in case of Aastha-Simran ...the matter is so complicated b/w daughter and mother just becuz of the lies of Simran. I still don't blame Aastha becuz I have seen so many teenagers, who always raise their voice against any injustice or cheating even if its from their Real parents and Aastha got those lies from her so called mother....and I will again say that not all the children are obedient and respectful to their elders....this generation is VERY straight forward,they can never tolerate any type of injustice..I think its all Simran's fault by not telling anything to her when she was so mad and calling her characterless,she could defend herself but she din't say anything but crying becuz she was at fault that time, all that situation was created by Simran basically ,thats why she could'nt say a word to Aastha ,whatever she told about Simran was VERY TRUE..just like the same way when Manas was giving her harsh words of being a second woman in Neha-Abhi's life, she could 'nt say a word becuz he was right at that time though she realized that later..whenever someone shows a mirror to Simran,she always start crying,never say a single word becuz she knows its all her fault.
Aastha did and said everything in front of everyone becuz she was staright forward but what about Simran? Is she a good daughter who is hiding so many Major changes in her life from her father and even when she got married to Abhi in her 30's, she din't inform her parents,and so many times she became harsh with her father just becuz she always considered herself on the right path. I think Aastha's straight to the point behaviour is much better than Simran's Cunning behaviour.

The lying was totally not needed and as i have already said made the situation from bad to worse and simran needs to stand up for herself and not just take anything and everything dished out to her and yes she could have confided in her father about Sia but i think they made the lying and secret meetings so that it gives more spin to the show.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Astha has been wronged... Simran did not do the right thing by not telling he the truth. This is something all of us have the same opinion. Simran did not bring up Astha as a responsible adult. She has treated her like a child, when she is not one. Also I have not liked the idea of forcing the medicine career on Astha, just because of something that Abhi/Neha said. Astha's interests were never taken into account.

I think it was rak01 who said that don't we all get short tempered at times. True, we all do, get emotional create scenes because we have been wronged or have been misunderstood. But if the temper tantrums continue for days and months... it needs to be treated. I am not saying Astha needs to make up with Simran immediately. Astha needs to be given her space so she can react better to all the mess in her life. Forcing her to do things will make things worse.

Sure the new generation is straight forward and that is a wonderful trait, but at the same time the new generation also should have the capability of thinking before they speak. Being angry is one thing, and being volatile is another. Astha needs psychological treatment at this stage so she does not change her personality. She has had a shock and needs to be mentored.

Ok Pranay... it has been a long time.. come on in..😉

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpio_pk

Respecting parents and to be an obedient child....its all happen to be in a peaceful, worry-free family.....but in case of Aastha-Simran ...the matter is so complicated b/w daughter and mother just becuz of the lies of Simran. I still don't blame Aastha becuz I have seen so many teenagers, who always raise their voice against any injustice or cheating even if its from their Real parents and Aastha got those lies from her so called mother....and I will again say that not all the children are obedient and respectful to their elders....this generation is VERY straight forward,they can never tolerate any type of injustice..I think its all Simran's fault by not telling anything to her when she was so mad and calling her characterless,she could defend herself but she din't say anything but crying becuz she was at fault that time, all that situation was created by Simran basically ,thats why she could'nt say a word to Aastha ,whatever she told about Simran was VERY TRUE..just like the same way when Manas was giving her harsh words of being a second woman in Neha-Abhi's life, she could 'nt say a word becuz he was right at that time though she realized that later..whenever someone shows a mirror to Simran,she always start crying,never say a single word becuz she knows its all her fault.
Aastha did and said everything in front of everyone becuz she was staright forward but what about Simran? Is she a good daughter who is hiding so many Major changes in her life from her father and even when she got married to Abhi in her 30's, she din't inform her parents,and so many times she became harsh with her father just becuz she always considered herself on the right path. I think Aastha's straight to the point behaviour is much better than Simran's Cunning behaviour.

I don't understand, you're making Simran sould like she did have something "wrong" to hide.

The only thing Simran is guily of is lying and covering the truth. She wasn't seeing a stranger. She was waiting for the right moment to tell Aastha the truth. Althougth we know that was a wrong call, but that is no excuse for her to take all that crap that Aastha said to her.

Parents are not perfect, but they have resons for what they do.

Some how I seem to thing that people here think that Siman had bad intentions against Aastha. That is obviously not ture.

The root of the problem is that Aashta thinks that the whold world is out to get her including Simran. Although we know that Simran really cares for her. What is she suppose to do for Aastha to prove her love? Aastha know this deep down, but loves the extra attention that's she's getting becuase of the sympathies of her conditions.

Such teenagers do exist, I admit, but they have insecurities and have problems. The're not normal.

Sorry.....

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: peaches

Parents are not perfect, but they have resons for what they do.

Some how I seem to thing that people here think that Siman had bad intentions against Aastha. That is obviously not ture.

Yup, parents are not perfect and that is what I like about this serial where Simran's faults are also visible and behave like a Devi. Simran has genuinely loved Astha. It is a fact. Simran did lie which is also a fact. I am not saying that just because Simran loves Astha, she can lie to her and get away with it. Simran also needs to be told that she did not do the right thing by hiding the fact. I guess she has been told and realized it too.

But when a parent out of love does hide things, the parent deserves a chance to explain. Teenagers may not see this. But they need to be told to see this, if they don't.

This girl, 18 years old, is matured enough to think who her husband should be? but is not matured enough to give her mother a second chance? Love cannot be forced upon anybody. Astha has to realize it on her own and correct her behaviour towards both. She may end up hating Simran the rest of her life... that would her choice.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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I feel Simran is responsible for Astha's behaviour. She has pampered her so much that she never understood the way to talk to elders. I felt really nice when Saurabh just gives a big slap to her. Well, kids will try to criticize parents as they start growing. Every one did this at the age of Astha is in. But Astha is never taken into confidence. and if the parents take even a small child into confidence and tell them the facts of life.. they do feel they are becoming responsible. If you try to hide certain things they start taking a doubt on you.
I feel when she found Abhi, it was a happiest moment of her life she should have just shared with her daughter. Daughter was also equally suffering with out a father. If you just keep her in the dark, she is going to react the way astha did.
I think when my parents gave me resposility and started putting responsiblities on me even if I was small.. I started understnading them better. I went closer to them.. this way Astha is just going away from her parents.
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Yeah! Simran needs more help and counselling than Astha. Infact then Astha will also fall in place.

One has to stand for oneself rather than looking around for help like Simran does all the time. She has to confront Astha and put some sense to her. But I'm sure as always she will not speak up (so that she looks good) and will not let others (Abhi or his parents) speak up ( to be an apple to their eyes) and let Astha realize of her mistakes by herself. If and when Astha realizes her fault, she will respect Simran more than before and until then Simran already has other people's support. So in any case Simran is the winner but at the cost of living a horrible life until Astha changes her mind 😵

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