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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: mushiroxx

awww that was awesome ...loved it so much...the confession n the kiss...the sweetest part ever...❤️❤️

arjun's words were so from-the-heart n he left riya speechless...😆
i really loved that he kissed her finger before slipping the ring in it...
well done dear!! loved the update...😊 do write more stuff on ariya...😳

Thanks so much Mushi, I am so glad you liked the OS.
This is something I invision for them in the future, their love story will be full of heartach, turns and twitst, and the journey will be a long one but eventually they will have one of the best love story ever made.
May be my imagination, but I hope it is special.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: shabana20

Very Nice Os!!..

Enjoyed it..
Thumbs up!!..

Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the OS.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Dear spb1971,

I am writing this with a lot of hesitation, for I can see that what I want to say will go against the trend of the uniformly approving comments on this thread. But I feel that it needs to be said, and also that it might reflect the views of many more members who have chosen to remain silent.

More important, I also run the risk of offending you, which is something that I would never want to do. So I hope that you will take this message in the spirit in which it is written, which is one of a constructive and sympathetic critique, meant not to run down your OS in any way, for I genuinely liked it, but merely to flag what I feel you definitely need to keep in mind for your future efforts in this genre, which I hope will be many and even better than this one.

I liked your piece a lot, the whole of it. You have a light touch and a fluid appealing style, and though you have focussed solely on the Arjun-Riya romance, it does not seem in any way incomplete because there is no other element.

However, there is one aspect about which I have very serious reservations. While it is true that you have not crossed the line specified in the IF rules, I feel that there is far too much of overt sensuality in your piece. This makes it not just PG but actually R-rated. This is both unnecessary, for you are a sound writer who does not need such shortcuts and, most important, it is not at all suitable for a forum which has many very young girls as members. If one were to go further down this route simply because of admiring comments, one could soon end up in X-rated territory.

It is true that you have tried to correct things in part 2, but still, it would have been much, much better without all the explicit stuff in part 1. Besides, romance, by its very nature, is most admirable when it is delicate and full of nuances, not HOT in capitals.

Secondly, what you have shown Arjun as doing in part 1 distorts his character. No decent man would behave like this with a young girl in full public view, even if she was his wife. Here, not only is she not his wife, but he has not even made a declaration of love to her. That she does not object, and actually responds, changes nothing as far this is concerned.

The worst is that he is her senior and her mentor. This is a very distinct relationship of trust, and this trust cannot be breached in such a brazen fashion. It is not just unappealing, it is wrong. It is not that a senior officer cannot fall in love with a junior one, but such a situation has to be handled with propriety. Eventually, the junior one cannot continue to work under her senior whom she, presumably, marries, for there would be an obvious conflict of interest.

As I said above, you are already a very good writer,and you have the potential to become an even better one. I would most earnestly request you not to fall into facile traps that demean your creations, and instead to concentrate to using your talent to the fullest in stories that combine mystery with the unavoidable Arjun-Riya romance.

Once again, I hope you will take this is in the spirit in which it is meant, and not take offence. If I had not thought that your efforts deserved an honest critique, I would have skipped this. But they do, whence this message.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Dear Sashashyam,
After reading your "essay" i just wanna politely say that though you kept saying "no offence", any writer would take offence at ur criticism. Sbp1971 has been writing on IF for two years now and she has never crossed IF rules.
A writer writes on his ideas not someone else's. Instead of pointing out what Shilpa has to write n not write, you could have just said you didnt like it.
As a story "Arjun" also focus on Arjun-riya rship which will develop in the show too, the writer was just being passionate abt it. Besidesa lot of films n shows focus on this theme. If i dont like the theme, i move on n watch what i like.
I hope you will take this in the same spirit this is written. No offence meant.
Let sbp1971 write the story how she likes, you are aware it appeals to a lot of readers except a few. Nobody was forced to read this.

Thank you,

Jake R Neilson
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Posted: 12 years ago
@ Shyamala B. Cowsik - I agree with what Jake has said in his comment and adding to it

I think you are treading a fine line between freedom of expression and also moral policing. I also believe that you are putting out your personal beliefs and reservations in the name of providing a honest critique.

As a writer, Shilpa is entitled to write a story as she envisages them. She, as writer is entitled to write what she conceives and believes in. Most writers on the forum write coz they have a passion for it. It takes time and effort to dish out stories. Just cauz a certain segment of the audience does not like it or approves of it or is not her target audience but runs a risk of exposing them to it, doesn't mean she will have to take an alternate course for her stories.

I agree that there are heaps of young impressionable minds on the forum and if they have found their way on IF, I am sure they will find the content they want to read anywhere on the internet. Nothing will stop them.

Now on to your comments on the OS, I think in relationship with a colleague, there is bound be strong physical undercurrents. It is almost like the forbidden fruit, you know you cannot have it but you want to. Writing about something that is bound to happen at some point in the series isn't wrong. It isn't wrong even if the writer takes liberties, its their piece of work and they can treat it any way they seem fit. Why shy away from depicting physical intimacy when it is integral to life itself ? Why use subtle nuances to show romance when it wouldn't even fit the theme ?

Riya isn't a woman from the 50s or the 60s where she needs to throw shy longing glances at Arjun. She isn't someone who will make paper planes and sigh to show her feelings. She is a woman of today - bold, intelligent and knows what she wants. Her life isn't governed by different sets of rules for men and women. I am also wondering and cannot help but laugh imagining Arjun trying to keep away coz of workplace ethics and then ending up dreaming about them romancing around the trees..Seriously !!

One is entitled to have an opinion but forcing ones belief systems, and advising people to keep away from certain aspects of writing due to their own moral dogma is a different case altogether. I am sure as much as the Shilpa appreciates your feedback, she knows where she stands.


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Posted: 12 years ago


Dear Shyamala

First of all thank you for reading and taking the time to comment on my OS. I run the risk of offending you by clearing your misconception and I am sure you are not going to like it, but like you I mean no offense to you or your point of view. I am not defending myself either; I am simply stating some facts below to your comments.

I also do not take offense at your comments because I disagree with all your points. Matter of fact I find your criticism surprising because you sound like a person who has been around IF for a while so I am sure you have read things that are far more sensual than what I wrote.

I do not find anything wrong with taking only the romantic part of this story and writing a fictional scenario that people who enjoy this part of the story would like to read. This does not mean all my Ariya fiction will be filled with romance only and not focus on other aspects of the show. Romance is not the focus of the show as of now but the show will eventually focus on this part also. Also this was supposed to be a one shot, and if I tried to focus on solving a crime and tension between Arjun and Riya then I would have to make this a FF, which was not what I intended at all.

I believe what I wrote is less than what is shown on television everyday no matter what part of the world you live in. I stand by my work, and I am sorry you feel differently, the world has moved forward, we should learn to move forward with it.

As for Arjun kissing her in the open and Riya working under him, you missed the part about his regret. He acted in the heat of the moment and also regretted his action. And when let's say that eventually Arjun and Riya are together, who says that Riya has to leave the job? It is not written in stone, after all this is fiction and any kind of liberty can be taken with fictional shows or stories.

If Riya has guts to be ETF officer then she also has the courage to stand up for herself if she believes that Arjun is taking advantage of her. We all do things in the heat of the moment because we can not control ourselves, but that one moment of losing your senses does not make us indecent, so in this case it does not make Arjun a man who was trying to take advantage of a young, vulnerable girl. They are both adults and know the right from the wrong.

Anyway, you are taking this far too seriously than it is meant to be. It is supposed to be a different scenario away from the show, this is something that will never happen on the show I am sure and so are all the members who read the OS.

I am sorry if my OS offended you, but this was strictly for entertainment purposes, mainly mine, and I am sure my imagination will come up with many more fictional scenarios, romantic, non-romantic, it could be anything.

P.S. I did not attempt to fix things in part 2, as a matter of fact I had not planned to write part 2, but went with the flow and wrote what came to me. I have done nothing wrong, so why try to fix it?

Again, thanks for the criticism, but I just don't agree with it.

Edited by sbp1971 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
AAwww the last part is sooo beautifulll
i'm BLUSHING☺️
give me some more romance
i'm waiting for your more romantic OS :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
Dear sbp1971,

No, I am not at all offended, and in fact I liked you response, for I always like people who fight for what they believe in.

No again, I have not been in the IF for very long, in fact only since April this year, though I did join formally in January. The only other forum I was active in was that for Pavitra Rishta, which is huge by comparison with this one, and focusses very largely on the actual serial. There, I never read any of the FF. In fact, on coming to this forum, I was quite taken aback by the volume of the FF and started reading 4-5 of them, including yours, which, as I said, I quite liked. So I am completely new to the genre.

As for your point of view, I can only quote Voltaire, who once said to someone about whose writings he had reservations, "I disagree with you to the death, but I would fight to the death to defend your right to say it". Of course all the 'to the death' part is wildly exaggerated, but you would get my drift!

This said, while you have not taken that stand and so this is not for you, I do not see why I cannot say what I did not like in this or any other piece and also what I would like you to do in your future efforts. That is the right of any critic, and you are, after all, under no obligation to follow my advice. It is a free forum, and so long as I do not cross the IF rules, I do not see any reason for anyone to accuse me of moral policing, for that implies compulsion, which is a non-starter here. And I am surely not obliged to limit my comments to unqualified praise. Though I must say that this seems to be the norm in this forum; in my limited FF readings, I am yet to come across even the mildest critique.

As for the effort put into FF, that is naturally to be deeply appreciated, but the writers do it because they enjoy it, and once they put something out in a public forum, they have to learn to take the brickbats (not that mine was intended as such!) with the bouquets. Which, in this instance, you have done, and admirably at that.

So I do not accept the kind of restrictions that jake and others would like to impose on me in terms of my responses to your FF, or indeed any other. It is in fact curious that while they insist that I should not tell you what to write and not to write, they have no such hesitation in telling me what I should not write!!

Where I agree completely with you is when you say that I am taking this too seriously. Point noted; it is probably the generation gap! However, I must tell you that Indian TV is far more old fashioned in what one can show on it, and I for one am glad of that.

Lastly, most offices, and definitely Govt. offices in India, would not permit one spouse to work under another. It would inevitably lead to accusations of favouritism, including in terms of the performance reports that the senior spouse would be writing for the other. Not that this should stop you from incorporating this in your FF; there is such a thing as creative licence, after all!

In conclusion, I would like to wish you all the very best for your future literary efforts, of whatever genre.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: sbp1971

Dear Shyamala

First of all thank you for reading and taking the time to comment on my OS. I run the risk of offending you by clearing your misconception and I am sure you are not going to like it, but like you I mean no offense to you or your point of view. I am not defending myself either; I am simply stating some facts below to your comments.

I also do not take offense at your comments because I disagree with all your points. Matter of fact I find your criticism surprising because you sound like a person who has been around IF for a while so I am sure you have read things that are far more sensual than what I wrote.

I do not find anything wrong with taking only the romantic part of this story and writing a fictional scenario that people who enjoy this part of the story would like to read. This does not mean all my Ariya fiction will be filled with romance only and not focus on other aspects of the show. Romance is not the focus of the show as of now but the show will eventually focus on this part also. Also this was supposed to be a one shot, and if I tried to focus on solving a crime and tension between Arjun and Riya then I would have to make this a FF, which was not what I intended at all.

I believe what I wrote is less than what is shown on television everyday no matter what part of the world you live in. I stand by my work, and I am sorry you feel differently, the world has moved forward, we should learn to move forward with it.

As for Arjun kissing her in the open and Riya working under him, you missed the part about his regret. He acted in the heat of the moment and also regretted his action. And when let's say that eventually Arjun and Riya are together, who says that Riya has to leave the job? It is not written in stone, after all this is fiction and any kind of liberty can be taken with fictional shows or stories.

If Riya has guts to be ETF officer then she also has the courage to stand up for herself if she believes that Arjun is taking advantage of her. We all do things in the heat of the moment because we can not control ourselves, but that one moment of losing your senses does not make us indecent, so in this case it does not make Arjun a man who was trying to take advantage of a young, vulnerable girl. They are both adults and know the right from the wrong.

Anyway, you are taking this far too seriously than it is meant to be. It is supposed to be a different scenario away from the show, this is something that will never happen on the show I am sure and so are all the members who read the OS.

I am sorry if my OS offended you, but this was strictly for entertainment purposes, mainly mine, and I am sure my imagination will come up with many more fictional scenarios, romantic, non-romantic, it could be anything.

P.S. I did not attempt to fix things in part 2, as a matter of fact I had not planned to write part 2, but went with the flow and wrote what came to me. I have done nothing wrong, so why try to fix it?

Again, thanks for the criticism, but I just don't agree with it.

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Dear sashashyam
i didnt put any restriction on you or your views. You sounded rude, so i just said what i thought of it.
Indian govt has no such restrictions as you stated. Atleast not in my state. I have come across many couples who work together.
obv you took offence at my previous post which was as polite as yours for Shilpa. If you read both your post you will know the difference of views you have.
Good luck with your reviews

Jake R Neilson 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: luvyoubarun

AAwww the last part is sooo beautifulll

i'm BLUSHING☺️
give me some more romance
i'm waiting for your more romantic OS :)



Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed the OS. Will see what I come up with next.

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