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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: ChirpyKiya10

I totally agree


But sometimes, even the working woman don't get appreciation.; they are sandwiched between work and house and yess, there are families, where people dont only appreciate housewives but are always ready to help them in best possible manner.

I would like to ask why to show everything to an extreme; too much negativity, below-the-belt comments from an educated person, and the stupid behavior of Anuj in love.

House wives kya working woman ko bhi apne liye time nahi milta toh; unme se masale ki smell aane lagti hai. Comb bhi working woman office mei ya bus mei kar rahi hoti hain.

Secondly, are anupama and Anuj getting married for themselves or to prove something to Vanraj.

Instead of Haan anu, haan anu, . anuj should have encouraged her to pursue her education or be presentable ( its also toady's need).

I don't have problem with showing negativity. My concern is what are you trying imply by showing that? That it is okay to treat your wife, DIL poorly and get away since one is a husband and the other is an aged lady. The so called FIL turned father kept quiet for 26 years and even now he is quiet.

And that Anuj does not have any guts to ask his to be wife to stay away from her ex husband. Oh I know why? Kya faada wo sunegi thodi, He is her bachcho ke pita, Ek adarsh beta. After marriage, whenever Bapuji/Leela/Anyone will fall sick Anupama will come and stay there, what about her current husband?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I feel in comparison In eal.life jo earning use log jyada respect dete hai those who are gharelu use log less respect dete hai

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: strancho

I don't have problem with showing negativity. My concern is what are you trying imply by showing that? That it is okay to treat your wife, DIL poorly and get away since one is a husband and the other is an aged lady. The so called FIL turned father kept quiet for 26 years and even now he is quiet.

And that Anuj does not have any guts to ask his to be wife to stay away from her ex husband. Oh I know why? Kya faada wo sunegi thodi, He is her bachcho ke pita, Ek adarsh beta. After marriage, whenever Bapuji/Leela/Anyone will fall sick Anupama will come and stay there, what about her current husband?

I have a problem with this extreme negativity and the most regressive “social message” I still don’t get the intent of the makers?

Babuji who has kept quiet all his life and still does more often than not is considered a saint? Witness to abuse is also an offence.

MIL I’m not even getting into. Just don’t get the obsession. No one even tries to make her understand? No one wants to show her the mirror? Her own mother is very much alive but she doesn’t consider her important?

Even after constant reminders to consider Anuj important, she fails to do so. Every action of hers is a trigger or a diff version of a knee jerk reaction?

Anuj who is supposed to have seen the world, loses his mind when it comes to her. I get love is blind and all and he worships her, but does he not find the need to ASK her or GUIDE her? He says he will be a friend to the kids. What about his own to-be? What happens there?

Is there no one around who can call spade a spade????? Is that not a strong msg in its own?

I get the whole haldi masala bit. He was trying to sunao vanraj but there ARE better ways to impart the message. And it didn’t have to be this long and snooze fest. Messages can be short and to the point. I don’t see why you need to fill an episode with 10 mins of a social message and cut to another scene where you see the baa maa jaap. I also get she is craving for love but c’mon ffs stop. You cannot be clingy and hell bent on the aashirwad. How will her blessings change anything at all???????

Chhod do na usko. Like why all this faltugiri.

Again, drama is not an issue at all. But makers have forgotten the essence of the show and are now churning out just about anything.

No growth in the story or leads or TRPs or even finances. I absolutely fail to understand how are they running this business of theirs? And how do they plan to sustain?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: ektag06

No growth in the story or leads or TRPs or even finances. I absolutely fail to understand how are they running this business of theirs? And how do they plan to sustain?

Can just answer this question.

They are running the business by watching KGF. They plan to sustain it with viewers like us who goes gaga over a cheekna seena 🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: ChirpyKiya10

I totally agree


But sometimes, even the working woman don't get appreciation.; they are sandwiched between work and house and yess, there are families, where people dont only appreciate housewives but are always ready to help them in best possible manner.

I would like to ask why to show everything to an extreme; too much negativity, below-the-belt comments from an educated person, and the stupid behavior of Anuj in love.

House wives kya working woman ko bhi apne liye time nahi milta toh; unme se masale ki smell aane lagti hai. Comb bhi working woman office mei ya bus mei kar rahi hoti hain.

Secondly, are anupama and Anuj getting married for themselves or to prove something to Vanraj.

Instead of Haan anu, haan anu, . anuj should have encouraged her to pursue her education or be presentable ( its also toady's need).

After reading your post, it is making sense to me. They both seem to be getting married to just rub it in to Vanraj. For everything he did, Anuj does the opposite, and infact goes several notches above. ROFL 🤣

Edited by SmithaRam - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: ChirpyKiya10

I totally agree


But sometimes, even the working woman don't get appreciation.; they are sandwiched between work and house and yess, there are families, where people dont only appreciate housewives but are always ready to help them in best possible manner.

I would like to ask why to show everything to an extreme; too much negativity, below-the-belt comments from an educated person, and the stupid behavior of Anuj in love.

House wives kya working woman ko bhi apne liye time nahi milta toh; unme se masale ki smell aane lagti hai. Comb bhi working woman office mei ya bus mei kar rahi hoti hain.

Secondly, are anupama and Anuj getting married for themselves or to prove something to Vanraj.

Instead of Haan anu, haan anu, . anuj should have encouraged her to pursue her education or be presentable ( its also toady's need).

We are told that this show is about housewife/stay-at-home who do not get enough credit for their work at home.

So, what they have done so far is - put down working women(Kinjal' mom, RD) by showing that she is always busy and does not have time for homely duties. Again, the theory is proven by elevating something higher to highlight that the other side is lower. Silly at its best, IMO.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Rakhi was never insult because she is working woman . Kinjal jas compain with her mother because rakhi use to call anupama gawar and use to insult anupama uncessary where as anupama always use to give due respect to rakhi but rakhi use to call anupama gawar


Is serial mein working women ko kabhi granted nahi liya gaya hai अगर ऐसा होता तो devika kavya और kinjal jo working women hai unhe aidienve appreciate nahi karti

Audience love kavya character in beginning ki yeh waise character nahi jisko planning plotting karte dikhaya, gaya at least she is concentating on her professional career

Phit baad mein jub kavya veer ke liye obbessive ho gayi then audience were surprised why kavya is running behind man like vanraj why she is not concentrating on her career. Why she is destroying her career because of man like vanraj

Even kinjal got higher post people also loved tha

And people also love devika and she is also working woman

To is serial mein agar audience kisi ko dislike ya like karti hai because of their personal attitude

If audience start disking kavya it is because of her personal attitude not because she is working women and even rakhi get crictism not because she is working but because of her arrogance

Rakhi working woman hai iska matlab yeh nahi ki use anupama ko gawar kehna ka right tha

Nobody is saying rakhi should not work should not look after career coaching centre but iska matlab yeh jo ladies ghar sambhalti hai woh gawar hai aur bevkkoof hai

Aur is serial mein yahi show kiya hai aur realistic mein generally yahi dekhne sunnne ko milta hai jo log job nahi karti aur jo ghar sambhalti hai woh bevkkoof hoti hain

To is serial mein yahi show karne ki कोशिश की gayi ghar sambhakne wali bhi bevkkoof nahi hoti hai

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: SmithaRam

Masala segment was completely unnecessary and weird, IMO. There is also no need to keep comparing with V’s behavior towards her every step of the way and display contrast. They could have shown the masala badboo on women who are uneducated and don’t bother about self-grooming differently.

Come to think of it, if you are smelling like onions/garlic, it can be off putting to a lot of people around you. They could have shown how Anuj coaches her to groom herself, get rid of the stinky clothes while socializing in public. If you are around your partner, know their preferences and tolerance levels. Afterall, even partners are different individuals with their own set of preferences.

V’s reaction to that instance where she smells like masala was drastic and wrong. Just because V yelled at her for stinking, they don’t have to put housewives on pedestal, equating her to mata annapoorna etc. Never elevate something higher than necessary to prove the alternative is lower. Life is not always a competition where men & women are weighed on a scale for everything.

Sam, my limited knowledge of hindi prevents me from doing full justice to appreciating your poems. Translating it ruins the original essence. But I get the gist of it. Kudos to you for always trying to put a comic spin to an otherwise mundane scene.👏

Apologies for usingyour thread to rant about my “masala” post.


Putting women on pedestals, comparing with Gods, etc is also another way of trying to box them into a standard template of societal roles and putting expectations on them that they need to behave in a certain way.


After all, a God cannot think of their own happiness or ever change themselves or take revenge but always needs to be above their disciples. We are a country which has the concept of devdasis for women


This is one of the worst things ITV does, making so called good people complete caricatures where they are people with unlimited goodness who can forgive the worst abusers, Gods who never have any desire of their own and can never change. Why would Gods care about happiness or appearance or smells? They are above normal human desires!


Also it's telling that all this deification and forgiveness and sacrificing for the greater good is 99% of time applicable to only women characters. Men are shown as just regular human beings who have regular human weakness and desires. Its clear that treating women as God is not a way to appreciate them but a way to force them to behave in a certain way and limit them, while men have all excuses to chase their desires and ambitions as normal human beings


Imagine this in other walks of life. Your child is consistently doing well in school without any complains, so he is literal Ganesh or Karthik God. Your daughter excels in sports and is dedicated so you compare with Hanuman jee and say sports don't get much appreciation so we are showing the comparison. You write big dialogues about how the pen's ink symbolizes the flow of time or something or how akhada's soil makes your daughter Dharti Mata herself


Ridiculous. These comparisons or flowery words will never make people do better in education or sports. So why will diefying housewife empower them or make their conditions better? It will just reduce them to caricatures, set expectations that normal women will feel they will never live upto but should be their goals


Its as harmful as a woman wanting to be a size zero model. Putting into young heads that this is the ideal woman, that they need to reach this unrealistic level of self sacrifice to reach this ridiculous goal. But here instead of sacrificing all calories and taste to attain an impossible physical perfection for others to use you and judge you and admire you, you are told to sacrifice all happiness and personal ambitions to achieve a ridiculous emotional perfection where you are beyond your own material desires, for others to use you and judge you and worship you



I think people would appreciate more if they show abused house wives standing up for themselves and stop being doormats to their abusers and families than being compared to forgiving, all sacrificing Gods with some ridiculous, forced metaphors


The former is true empowerment being shown - the woman who dares to put her in laws in jail, the woman who walks out of her wedding when the groom asks for dowry, the woman who choses her own life and happiness even after marriage, the woman who fights for her education and career - are the true role models for abused women in India


The later is just 1980s unrealistic drama lip service from the same country which has called women Gods for centuries but has been killing the girl child at unprecedented rates which show no sign of slowing down, has one of the highest rates of violence against women in the world, and has one of the lowest % of women in workforce or even women stepping out of their kitchen and their homes without questions being asked.


Don't diefy woman and what they do. Instead empower them to make the choices they want for themselves. She doesn't cook because she is Annapoorna feeding her family miraculous spices. She cooks because she likes to and only when and for whom she wants to.

Edited by Harish111 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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I get the social message they were trying to portray but the scene was kind of cringe for me.




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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harish111


Putting women on pedestals, comparing with Gods, etc is also another way of trying to box them into a standard template of societal roles and putting expectations on them that they need to behave in a certain way.


After all, a God cannot think of their own happiness or ever change themselves or take revenge but always needs to be above their disciples. We are a country which has the concept of devdasis for women


This is one of the worst things ITV does, making so called good people complete caricatures where they are people with unlimited goodness who can forgive the worst abusers, Gods who never have any desire of their own and can never change. Why would Gods care about happiness or appearance or smells? They are above normal human desires!


Also it's telling that all this deification and forgiveness and sacrificing for the greater good is 99% of time applicable to only women characters. Men are shown as just regular human beings who have regular human weakness and desires. Its clear that treating women as God is not a way to appreciate them but a way to force them to behave in a certain way and limit them, while men have all excuses to chase their desires and ambitions as normal human beings


Imagine this in other walks of life. Your child is consistently doing well in school without any complains, so he is literal Ganesh or Karthik God. Your daughter excels in sports and is dedicated so you compare with Hanuman jee and say sports don't get much appreciation so we are showing the comparison. You write big dialogues about how the pen's ink symbolizes the flow of time or something or how akhada's soil makes your daughter Dharti Mata herself


Ridiculous. These comparisons or flowery words will never make people do better in education or sports. So why will diefying housewife empower them or make their conditions better? It will just reduce them to caricatures, set expectations that normal women will feel they will never live upto but should be their goals


Its as harmful as a woman wanting to be a size zero model. Putting into young heads that this is the ideal woman, that they need to reach this unrealistic level of self sacrifice to reach this ridiculous goal. But here instead of sacrificing all calories and taste to attain an impossible physical perfection for others to use you and judge you and admire you, you are told to sacrifice all happiness and personal ambitions to achieve a ridiculous emotional perfection where you are beyond your own material desires, for others to use you and judge you and worship you



I think people would appreciate more if they show abused house wives standing up for themselves and stop being doormats to their abusers and families than being compared to forgiving, all sacrificing Gods with some ridiculous, forced metaphors


The former is true empowerment being shown - the woman who dares to put her in laws in jail, the woman who walks out of her wedding when the groom asks for dowry, the woman who choses her own life and happiness even after marriage, the woman who fights for her education and career - are the true role models for abused women in India


The later is just 1980s unrealistic drama lip service from the same country which has called women Gods for centuries but has been killing the girl child at unprecedented rates which show no sign of slowing down, has one of the highest rates of violence against women in the world, and has one of the lowest % of women in workforce or even women stepping out of their kitchen and their homes without questions being asked.


Don't diefy woman and what they do. Instead empower them to make the choices they want for themselves. She doesn't cook because she is Annapoorna feeding her family miraculous spices. She cooks because she likes to and only when and for whom she wants to.


Wow lovely post and so logical. I always found it hypocrisy on how India treats its women and also compares to literal God.


Thanks for the poem, I got the gist of it too and appreciated it more then the cringey scene.

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