Impressed but still a bit disappointed

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yes Kinjal brought it home...girl gave it to them like Twitter gave it to Trump


However still disappointed in Kinals behaviour towards her mom


Rakhi is a business woman, intelligent and can hold her own. She also raised Kinjal, provided for her and did her best to steer her in the right direction.

Kinjal has been ungrateful to her mom in my opinion. She treats her like an enemy and for this I find Kinjal heavily flawed.


She married man baby Toshu

She has made Anu her mother. The same lady who told her to shut up & take shit from Baa

Anu is her role model? Or her charity case ? I can’t quite figure it out


Anu says a few sweet words and Kinju forgets her mom?


I’d be pissed off to if I were her mom


Seeing your independent daughter reduced to a naukrani would make anyone’s blood boil

That house is a bloody circus where man babies, bipolar MIL, and delusional daughter resides


there is not one redeeming character in that house ...they all pretty much suck and are useless

showing them helping out one day in the kitchen won’t change that

Kinju needs to sit down and have a decent heart to heart convo with her mom. She also needs to make Anu realize that a household of x no of ppl should have all x working or helping out somehow

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Kinjal considering anupamaa as role model is her personal choice. Pehraps kinjal find anupamaa role model because anupamaa come from finacially weak background and when she came to sasuraal there are lot of restriction on anupamaa by baa and vanraj


But still after lot of restriction anupamaa decide to do job. It is not easy to do thing on your own when there is lot of restriction but anupamaa still decide to do job after lot of taunt by baa


Whatever anupamaa is earning she is earning through her hard work and talent



Where in rakhi case . She get every thing from her mayka.. Even she get coaching classes from her father . So here rakhi get every thing without any struggle. Even rakhi is earning not because of hard work and talent but because of what she get from her father and more over there is no restriction in rakhi case



And coming to kinjal being naukarani . Then doing little bit house hold work does not make naukranai. I think whether rich or poor non working or working every body shoud know basic cooking at least no one will remain hungry . Being independent does not mean that person should not do any house hold work

Naukrani mean doing all work and no enjoyement no freedom of but that is not in kinjal case. Here kinjal is not doing all work . Anupamaa also cook and do house hold chores. She does not let kinjal work alone in kitchen. Anupamaa also do work in kitchen Even after becoming mother in law . Here anupamaa allow kinjal to do whatever she like



Anupamaa Even told kinjal that ur world does not revolve around just in kitchen. Dont forget ur studies And ur liking



And more over I Dont see that kinjal is actually made naukrani. First she made halwa

. Even when kinjal enter kitchen Even before that anupamaa already working in kitchen and when kinjal making halwa then anupamaa is also there to make halwa



Then first time when kinjal and toshu sit together in dining table then it is anupamaa who was serving food to kinjal and toshu


Then toshu and kinjal . Went to Honeymoon after proper ritual of marriage . So where doeskinjal treat like naukrani

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Appears as though just like Baa is blind to Vanrajs limitations some are blind to Rakhees manipulation. Inviting Kavya to come ruin the wedding, sending husband on a businéss meeting rather than give her daughter away in marriage.

Rakhee Dave is intent on turning relationships sour. Pitting SIL against daughter and hoping Kinjal and Toshu break up.

Kinjal sees through her mother. We repeatedy hear how well she raised Kinjal but I think RaKhee never gave her any freedom or opportunity to exercise choice.

There was some need of Kinjal TLC which Anupama fílled.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Rakhi says it like it is

At least she isn’t using sweet words into making ppl submissive servants to abuse

Anupamas way of dealing with Baas crap is to take it and swallow it ...same she is teaching Kinjal to do ...thankfully Kinjal is Rakhi’s daughter and won’t take that crap

Anu taking care of VanRat is stupidity to the core...and it took Rakhi to show what idiots they truly are

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: moonwearer

Appears as though just like Baa is blind to Vanrajs limitations some are blind to Rakhees manipulation. Inviting Kavya to come ruin the wedding, sending husband on a businéss meeting rather than give her daughter away in marriage.

Rakhee Dave is intent on turning relationships sour. Pitting SIL against daughter and hoping Kinjal and Toshu break up.

Kinjal sees through her mother. We repeatedy hear how well she raised Kinjal but I think RaKhee never gave her any freedom or opportunity to exercise choice.

There was some need of Kinjal TLC which Anupama fílled.

I admire that Kinjal is smart enough to see through her mother and take her own stand without any influence.

You see the same is the reason I ignore the fact that Rakhi is forcefully made villain, even though her every damn point is right and straightforward. Her reasons are right and her actions are often misdirected because you know she is supposed to be a 'Villian'. Honestly, any sane mother would have gone two steps beyond Rakhi - if it could prevent her daughter from marrying into the madhouse.

Sadly, Love doesn't feed you, keep you sane or provide a protective shield against BS. You see she is practical, she invited Kavya in hopes of the wedding getting canceled. There is no single thing good about the shah house - Anu, Samar, and Bapuji are good/Mahan. But they can't take a single stand against BS, they always keep mum. Being Mahan might be seen as great but that ain't practical.

This show is supposed to be a Woman Empowerment show - for Anu. That woman empowerment treats so far has been only displayed by Rakhi and Kinjal. Another reason I like Rakhi more.

Regarding her father not attending the wedding, I don't see how that was Rakhi's fault. She is no Vanraj to control her spouse's every move.

If she never gave Kinjal freedom or choice on her own - She wouldn't have turned out the way she is. She wouldn't have opposed Rakhi to this extend. She would have turned a puppet. Her taking a stand on every single thing is very much evidence that she was raised in a way that she could express herself loud and clear.

I agree with TLC point, Kinjal is biased toward Anu because she is different from her mom. She may as a child would have wanted attention which as a working mom Rakhi couldn't provide fully. But that being a part of the reason to marry that idiot Toshu.. ah well I don't know if that was a great choice

Edited by piyu008 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Trampling over others can never be a mark of woman empowerment. Agreed that that the shahs are Dysfunctional. The way Rakhee gloated yesterday that the happenings in Shah house were far better thn our daily soap is indicative that she revels at pain and is no champion of women as she is being made out to be. if she was she wouldnt be creating crisis for other women. no woman would want another weak woman to fall at her feet or stamp her feet and call it empowerment. If her intent was to ensure the happiness of her daughter she definitely would have resorted to other ways of having her way rather than invite Kavya, pack her husband off and release a press note about the New MD. If she was a champion of women she wouldnt try to break a woman like Anupama knowing that intellectually and financially they are not equal. Anyone who tries to get an upperhand over a person who has done no harm to her is not worth any respect.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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So, to be very honest, Rakhi is one of the most practical and decent character in the show.


I have brought this up previously too, that whatever Rakhi does is not bad, it's her intention that's usually wrong. Had her intentions been to really protect her daughter, she might have as well kept check on the kind of character Vanraj is and reject the proposal rather than making it about her attitude towards Anupama based on her education level.


The reason why Kinjal bonds well with Anupama is because of empathy and connection those two share. Kinjal has, on several occasions, made it clear how she never really got love from her mother emotionally or care when she is sick. All of these things do lead to disconnect between mother and daughter, specially when some other woman is there to shower the love and show affection on a child. Hence, her attitude towards Rakhi is not completely baseless.


Writers have been so confused wit Rakhi's characters. Kinjal said she never cared for Kinjal's health and well being, but she was shown to be terrified when Kinjal broke down with stomache a few weeks back. She did appear worried but in the very next moment she was smirking that she could use her daughter's suffering as a weapon to humiliate Shah family 🤔 why? She could have been shown truly concern while bringing food to Shah family.


Now coming to episode , I have been little disappointed with Kinjal when Kavya blamed Rakhi for instigating her to come to wedding, she kind of agreed that Rakhi would have instigated her rather than pointing out that Kavya is wrong to even have affair with a married man. I don't know how to put that 😆 though.

Edited by shahsb_26 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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one can be practical and respectable in ones outlook and actions.

Devika for instance never spares a chance to get at Vanraj and Kavya. yet when Anupama says she wants to handle matters her way she steps back respecting her friend.

Agreed Rakhee maybe the most practical character and it is her words andactions that move the story forward. Just as Vanraj is all about self love Rakhee is all about my way or the highway. She cares two hoots about age or Relationships. Be it the way she treats Pramod and Kinjal or the way she instigates Toshu and Kavya or the way she humiliates Anupama.

A person commands respect by showing respect to others. Thus far i have not seen Rakhee show an aorta of respect to anyone. A persons respectability in my view is based on the respect one shows not only to ones equals but also to the vulnerable weaker souls than oneself. So on these counts both Baa and Rakhee belong to the same class. Baa is blind to her son's foibles but has not been mean to all. Rakhee on the other hand has not been kind to anyone and can take a pot shot at anyone.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: moonwearer

Trampling over others can never be a mark of woman empowerment. Agreed that that the shahs are Dysfunctional. The way Rakhee gloated yesterday that the happenings in Shah house were far better thn our daily soap is indicative that she revels at pain and is no champion of women as she is being made out to be. if she was she wouldnt be creating crisis for other women. no woman would want another weak woman to fall at her feet or stamp her feet and call it empowerment. If her intent was to ensure the happiness of her daughter she definitely would have resorted to other ways of having her way rather than invite Kavya, pack her husband off and release a press note about the New MD. If she was a champion of women she wouldnt try to break a woman like Anupama knowing that intellectually and financially they are not equal. Anyone who tries to get an upperhand over a person who has done no harm to her is not worth any respect.


I never said she is a pure white Disney character, she is not. She is very much a grey character, whose character writing and consistency are being terribly failed.

Of course, her unnecessary comment on them being middle class or uneducated are wrong. Those two incidents were also wrong. She is more than capable of proving her points without these. That is why I said that her actions are misdirected and she is made a villain. I would never endorse her looking down on anyone, I like her because she is strong.


It seems we have a different opinion of women's empowerment. For me, it is not just being a good human - that is a completely different story. I see woman empowerment as standing strong when it comes to personal life or professional life. Fighting your own battles when you are wronged, and being smart about it.

Not being good all the time to all people - doesn't mean you are not a strong/smart woman. She takes her stand, speaks her heart, and all points are extremely valid- That is what woman empowerment stands at least to me.


Rakhi is a grey character who highly disapproves of her daughter's relationship with Toshu and Shah family. It would not make any sense if she started being best friends with Anu! Her not liking anyone from that family is totally understandable and all for the right reasons.

I still don't get it why would you say she packed her husband off. She is no dog trainer and her husband is no dog either - for her to lock up or send away.😆 I am pretty sure he has a mind of his own. Handling business requires brains and decision-making skills.


Anu's breaking - it doesn't require outsiders. Shah's family is enough for that. As we have already seen - she fights back Rakhi but can't fight back the main culprits of her sufferings. Another reason to like her - whenever she creates a ruckus- those are the only times Anu is forced to be a stronger woman with a backbone.

She is no good/white person agreed. But she is not that bad either. And she is definitely the most practical character. The main villains of the show are Vanraj and Baa.


PS: Difference in opinion are welcomed, no harsh feelings. These are fictional characters after all. Peace.😊


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Posted: 4 years ago
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The perfect person to play raaki role is in the bangali version that lady who plays kinjal mom is perfect for women empowerment she disagreed for the wedding because of the affair than anupmaa convinced her. Those two relationship was very beautiful coz she never put anupmaa down like how raaki does and she also was stright foward without acting like a villian infact a rich women with class she used to also show the family the mirror but interfear in the daughter marriage life style beacuse the daughter didn't like anupmaa first coz she is spoilt brat so it took time for her to win over kinjal wen she did that the mother stopped interfering seeing anupmaa is there as a mother figure for her daughter which was so understanding to see here the situation is different raaki is negative to show she is better than anupmaa and keeps on flaunting her richness

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