Kunal is right? judges should select VOI? - Page 2

Originally posted by: trishanku3

I don't know why everbody is blaming the janta for the eliminations. Janta is spending money in sending votes for their favourites, from which the producers/channel/phone companies are making lot of money. It happens so that someone gets less votes so he/she is eliminated. It is just simple if you want your favourite to stay on the show send more votes.

We should understand that this is a voting contest masked in the form of a singing contest. If anybody has to be blamed it should be the judges who supposedly pick the best of the best talent available before presenting them to the Janta(They are now mentors of the participants, so they are also responsible for their performances).
If the judges have done their job perfectly then why should there be any hue & cry over the eliminations. After all one who exits is the best and one who remains is also the best and ultimately we will have only one winner. When they have selected the best possible among the field why are they whining now.

Kunal ganjawala, or for that matter any other singer/actor/music director should realise that it is because of the Janta/Fans who spend money for watching their movies/buying their CD/cassettes, that they have achieved their name, fame, money, popularity and it is their support, adulation which makes them the stars they are.

Nope, I think you're wrong. Sorry.. the MAJORITY of the public are not voting for the best singer. They are voting madly for the contestant who will represent their community the most!

Sure, the judges picked the best 12 out of the thousands of contestants that auditioned. But not all of them are EQUALLY the best. Some are much stronger than others. And of those who are more talented should receive a longer and much fairer chance to showcase themselves.

And sure, the public ultimately is going to be the one to give support to the singers in the music industry, but that's not the kind of public that is voting. Without dwelling too much on regional bias (since I'm forbidden to!), many areas of India don't have the networks to vote, but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy good music, that they can't judge the difference between great and mediocre music. And the people who ARE voting, they are fortunate enough to have the resources to. That's the injustice that results from mass public voting. It does not show equality.

^^^ Shrutiji, what is wrong in voting or supporting a member of your own community/region? Please don't be under the impression that these young kids are going to walk into a recording studio and will be swamped with loads of work/offers just after they step out of SVOI or any other such competitions. They have still a long way to go to make any mark in the music industry involving lot of hard work, heartbreaks and the most important thing influence & luck.

If you carefully observe the purpose of these shows is not exactly to unearth any extraordinary singing talent, but to use these talents in furthering their own reason of existence. They are just pawns in the producers hands. If it were a purely singing competition what is the need for so much drama, judges' fights, love stories, sympathy tales, celebrity guests promoting their products. It is just simple the channel wants the show to remain ahead of its competitors and every tactic is employed, while the singing takes the backseat.

As I have said earlier it just a voting contest marketed as a singing contest.

Now coming to regional voting bias even i had resented it earlier and had my doubts, but now i have come to accept the fact that it is the basic human nature to align with those of your kind and this has been happening for thousands of centuries together and it will continue in the future barring a few exceptions.

The voting system has been the norm for the past 3/4 years not only in singing competitions but in every such TV reality shows and as the producers have found out this avenue to be a huge source of income generation whatever the misgivings might be. To use a Hindi term "Sab paise ka khel".

The show producers play with all kind of emotions to garner as many votes as possible and unfairly paint the public in the wrong picture, make them feel guilty so that they loosen their pockets.

If the judges feel that the contestants that they have picked are not upto the mark, don't conform to the standards of the competition, then they themselves are to be blamed for making the wrong decision. If they have done their job properly where is the need for complaining, if not why don't they take the responsibility and quit. There is no place for regrets now.

Gajendra's show worked best back when there was no public voting. Judges weren't fighting against each other as well. The focus was on talent. Now the focus is on exploitation. Meh.

Originally posted by: trishanku3

I don't know why everbody is blaming the janta for the eliminations. Janta is spending money in sending votes for their favourites, from which the producers/channel/phone companies are making lot of money. It happens so that someone gets less votes so he/she is eliminated. It is just simple if you want your favourite to stay on the show send more votes.

We should understand that this is a voting contest masked in the form of a singing contest. If anybody has to be blamed it should be the judges who supposedly pick the best of the best talent available before presenting them to the Janta(They are now mentors of the participants, so they are also responsible for their performances).
If the judges have done their job perfectly then why should there be any hue & cry over the eliminations. After all one who exits is the best and one who remains is also the best and ultimately we will have only one winner. When they have selected the best possible among the field why are they whining now.

Kunal ganjawala, or for that matter any other singer/actor/music director should realise that it is because of the Janta/Fans who spend money for watching their movies/buying their CD/cassettes, that they have achieved their name, fame, money, popularity and it is their support, adulation which makes them the stars they are.

Agreed, its the public who can break or make a singer, actor, musician, even athlete/sports figure.

Originally posted by: Kal El

Gajendra's show worked best back when there was no public voting. Judges weren't fighting against each other as well. The focus was on talent. Now the focus is on exploitation. Meh.

You have hit the nail on the head. The Sa Re Ga Mas of the past worked coz really good music directors and singers were judges of them. People like Jagjit Singhji and Nausad ji. Other classical singers too (the names escape me right now) but this time around the focus is on the circus. The money coming in from the SMS, etc. The added drama of judges behaving badly.

My request to Gajendra ji is please return to the format of old where the Gurus of music select the talent.

If the general public could pick winners then most of the politicians would never be in office but we, the general public are easily swayed. Our emotions get the better of us. This is just my humble opinion.

I certainly don't want too much power given to these present judges since the Pandit brothers can't be neutral since they are all in the same family. It would be three judges (Lalit, Jatin, & Aadesh vs two (Alka ji and Abhijeet ji). Not fair by any means.

I personally think 50-50 would probably work best... But again, it should be the same set of neutral judges deciding, and for junta, it should be one SMS per cell phone, or one vote per IP...

That would be perhaps a better representation of voting..

Were not all these finalists carefully selected through a due process of judges round(neutral or not) ? How come some of these are not worthy selection by public ?

Let us think it this way , almost 12 years of judges round has produced only Kunal, Shreya, Sunidhi (the most successful ones). It is at the rate of 0.25 per year. The voting round is just 3 years( starting with II) old. It is not that all winners coming out of the old system have been successful, the failure rate is rather high!