The doc completed destroyed Suman's life..

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Posted: 14 years ago
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We have seen the horrible things and behavior that Suman has displayed over the months.
In many ways, I blame her father for what he has done to her by allowing her to get married too early and in a lousy unhealthy home with a bunch of mean and horrible and negative people.

Look at how negatively she has been affected by Loha and Ranjavi. Also her jealous of Rekha causes her to create pain and suffering in others at the expense of her selfish and immature behavior. Look at what she has done to Laali and her family😡😡😡. If her father would have taken her away from the situation and gotten her some help especially after the Laali/Shali thing it would have helped...funny her dad deals with mental people and he can't even deal with his daughter's sick mind...I have no respect for the doc because everything that Suman has done is due to his fault as a uncaring father....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I do agree that the doc shouldn't have gotten Suman married at such a young age, I remember him saying how immature she is when he asked that they take good care of her but he is only partially to blame. Suman is old enough to know wrong from right, Lali raised her for 7 years. This is just Suman being selfish, ungrateful and cruel. All she thinks about is herself and what she wants, she has turned her back on Lali who for 7 years raised her and gave her the love of a mother. Then there is what she is doing to Madhav, even before all this happened with Loha and Ranvijay she wanted Shekhar to kill Madhav. She is just cold hearted.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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In many ways, I blame her father for what he has done to her by allowing her to get married too early and in a lousy unhealthy home with a bunch of mean and horrible and negative people.

I totally disagree. Remember, the doc did not want his daughter to get married at such an early age. He had wanted her to go to college, and the idea of marriage had never even entered his head at that time.

Suman fell in love with Madhur after she saw him somewhere, and probably when she saw him again at her house, lost interest in studying and decided she wanted him as her husband.

When the doc refused, Suman became a petulant child. Remember the old saying: "You can win with the entire world, but you will lose to your children".

When children start insisting, parents at some point give in because many times too much of a hardline attitude can have a disastrous result.
Children have been known to run away from home, some try and commit suicide, etc just to make their parents feel guilty.

Besides, Suman seriously wanted to get married to Madhur.
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Unfortunately for her, reality showed its ugly face very, very soon to her.

Laali too was involved in her upbringing. Even she couldn't stop her, so how could doc.

Anyway, I don't hate Suman's role.

She is doing a good job as an angry and slighted woman:
  • angry because Laali chose Shekhar over her father
  • slighted because Madhur harbors deep feelings for another woman, Rekha
Suman is deeply hurt and she is striking back at everyone who she feels is responsible for her anguish.
Edited by Neela10 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Even if the doc did not want his daughter to marry Madhur I feel that he did not try
hard enough. He let Suman get away with things too easily.
He could have done a better job of trying to stop her by being more firm.
He was not such a strong dad at all.
Yes Suman is hurting about Laali and all the stuff that happened with her memory loss
but she should be taught or realize that it is not Laali's fault.
If she thinks she is so mature to get married, then she should know when she is right and wrong.
The problem is that she wants to grow up to fast.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Tel! You're making me angryy...... =P

No seriously though...I don't think the doc is to blame at all, and I'm not saying that just because he's majorly cute. I'm strictly talking about his character here.

He was a super caring father, and the choices in front of him were to let Suman marry Madhur with his blessings, or to refuse and force Suman to run away and get into more trouble, or kill herself (the stupid girl that she is, I wouldn't put it past her). Plus, he also had to respect his then Shyamli's decision/reasoning because he didn't want her to feel that he doesn't think of her as his children's mother.

Having said that, Suman is a grown up who should be capable of making her own decisions. Her inability to make mature decisions is in no way a reason to blame her father or her mother for that matter. I know personally, my dad trusts me to make my own decisions. If I were to get up and tell him I want to get married to someone of my choice right now, (Im only 19, almost 20) he'd be royally ticked off, but then eventually he would give in, because he wants what's best for me, and he TRUSTS me to make the correct decision for myself. He also would not be able to see me cry, and the guilt of upsetting me would tear him up inside.

I totally agree with Neela, and I love that quote. It is so true, you can win against the entire world, but you WILL lose to your children, but only if you love them. Doc lost to his daughter, and that proves that he loves her. The thought of something horrible happening to her and HIM being responsible for it would have probably made him relive a million deaths.

And what you said at the end in your last post, the problem IS that she wants to grow up too fast, and she thinks she knows how to make the correct decisions and differentiate between right and wrong. You gotta remember that this story takes place in a remote village in India, where it's normal for girls to get married when they're 13. Suman grew up at the pace of an urban girl with her parents having dreams for her that an urban couple would, but she grew up in what ultimately was a village setting, where everyone she knew was a villager, and her social values told her she should be married already.

That's my rant. Sorry I haven't been on for a while, super busy with things =P
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Posted: 14 years ago
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So in this entire situation with Suman lashing out because of her angry etc does that mean she is the victim? She is playing the innocent victim which I do not think she is. So at what point does she take responsiblity for her action???
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sereaishitedare

Hey Tel! You're making me angryy...... =P


No seriously though...I don't think the doc is to blame at all, and I'm not saying that just because he's majorly cute. I'm strictly talking about his character here.

He was a super caring father, and the choices in front of him were to let Suman marry Madhur with his blessings, or to refuse and force Suman to run away and get into more trouble, or kill herself (the stupid girl that she is, I wouldn't put it past her). Plus, he also had to respect his then Shyamli's decision/reasoning because he didn't want her to feel that he doesn't think of her as his children's mother.

Having said that, Suman is a grown up who should be capable of making her own decisions. Her inability to make mature decisions is in no way a reason to blame her father or her mother for that matter. I know personally, my dad trusts me to make my own decisions. If I were to get up and tell him I want to get married to someone of my choice right now, (Im only 19, almost 20) he'd be royally ticked off, but then eventually he would give in, because he wants what's best for me, and he TRUSTS me to make the correct decision for myself. He also would not be able to see me cry, and the guilt of upsetting me would tear him up inside.

I totally agree with Neela, and I love that quote. It is so true, you can win against the entire world, but you WILL lose to your children, but only if you love them. Doc lost to his daughter, and that proves that he loves her. The thought of something horrible happening to her and HIM being responsible for it would have probably made him relive a million deaths.

And what you said at the end in your last post, the problem IS that she wants to grow up too fast, and she thinks she knows how to make the correct decisions and differentiate between right and wrong. You gotta remember that this story takes place in a remote village in India, where it's normal for girls to get married when they're 13. Suman grew up at the pace of an urban girl with her parents having dreams for her that an urban couple would, but she grew up in what ultimately was a village setting, where everyone she knew was a villager, and her social values told her she should be married already.

That's my rant. Sorry I haven't been on for a while, super busy with things =P

It is good that you are showing anger because it makes the discussion more exciting when people get worked up to express their opinion and tell it like it is. I have no probs with differences of opinions. 😉😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: telenovelle

It is good that you are showing anger because it makes the discussion more exciting when people get worked up to express their opinion and tell it like it is. I have no probs with differences of opinions. 😉😉


Oh lord, you totally misunderstood..I was totally kidding about the angry part......hence the smiley ( I didn't add the 😛 smiley itself because I was too lazy to open up the emotes bar thingy....soo sorry for the confusion.

But, it's totally awesome to see your attitude about differences of opinions. There are people who get totally worked up and become downright rude when people disagree with them. So happy to know you're not one of them....=)

I totally respect you and your opinion as well.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Guys, I do not see Sumaniya talking to her family on the phone or anything. Is it that when the girl is married she is completely cutoff from her birth place- is it the custom in North India? Don't the parent's family keep in touch with their daughter?


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sereaishitedare


Oh lord, you totally misunderstood..I was totally kidding about the angry part......hence the smiley ( I didn't add the 😛 smiley itself because I was too lazy to open up the emotes bar thingy....soo sorry for the confusion.

But, it's totally awesome to see your attitude about differences of opinions. There are people who get totally worked up and become downright rude when people disagree with them. So happy to know you're not one of them....=)

I totally respect you and your opinion as well.

I do not understand the people who get worked up with this stuff. It is only a show for heaven sakes and some take is so seriously that their life is dependent on this show. 😆😆😆 So crazy.
Get real people...those kind make me laugh...😆😆😆😆😆 it is all in good fun folks....Tongue

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