Shame on you Sunshiners - Page 2

Originally posted by: Manik_mia

Gardes, I liked your comments. I am 100% with you.

first of all I do not understadn why a production house should be ashmed of their show. They cater to the needs of public demand and give what public ask for. KB is a drama and as a rule drama is always dramtized sometimes over dramatized.

Originally posted by: ramas

first of all I do not understadn why a production house should be ashmed of their show. They cater to the needs of public demand and give what public ask for. KB is a drama and as a rule drama is always dramtized sometimes over dramatized.

We watch t because we like it or else why would we waste 20 minutes of our time every day?.

I can find at least few good things about this episode. and yes what neil did was stunts we have seen worst in many movies and that article was some one's opnion I do not agree with. Some times the best movies are criticized badly. That does not mean we accept that.

Now the things I liked.

i liked simi thrashing nakul and standing upto her vow.

I liked nakul finally being beaten up hurting his ego which he is full off.

and why would abhi uses sindoor when he already got cuts to win his love back. Blood was used in old times to fill mang of suhagan by veer yodhas. Abhi did same rather than using sindoor that was brought for thepurpose of nakul putting in simi's maaang

I liked simi admitting to manju finally rather than getting scared.

I liked RB doing at least do one good deed of helping abhi .

You may defer with me all my points.

But for me it was one of the best epsiode I do admit they could have done better.

But I throughly enjoy what was shown.

It wasn't easy for girl like simi to in public like that and admit abhi is her husband. She waited as she froze seeing what was happening to abhi. But she snaped out in time.

I am sure theye intended to giv eus 100th epsiode full of excitement drama comedy and action with litttle romance and they succedded in it.

after all it is drama isn't it?

Let us hope fro teh best now that it is again starting from 1 I mean 101st episode.

I am sure this show will last for a long time as it is one of teh most popular show gts into top 10 many times despite being a less thans 6 months old.😊

Ramas, there is a big difference between drama and melodrama!

Originally posted by: gardes

Ramas, there is a big difference between drama and melodrama!

Melodrama is harder to understand and overdone than a drama which is mostly par for the course, the story moves along! Simi's situation has turned melodramatic and thus makes it less plausible even to the most conservative thinkers.

I agree but it is not teh case with every female procastinator in every other serial. But we still watch them.

I totallly agree with you, this production house is very much possible for runing this show. Such bad direction, camera angle move from one place to another out of nowhere. Ad yes the screenplay is soo lousy, you can't even understand what has happened sometimes.

I feel soo sorry for the viewers who join to watch the show, they would be totally lost, with random dialgues here and there.

I hope this message get's to them!!

Originally posted by: ramas

I agree but it is not teh case with every female procastinator in every other serial. But we still watch them.

we don't digest thae fact that mother like manju exist in real life but then some ppl vouch for it. that hey have seen worst.

and for for character like simi some one pointed out that they should do statistics on the unmarried woman in similar situation just liek simi true they don't cry like simi even though they sacrifice theri lives for their families. I have met 3 in my life time and 2 are related to me. and I know this for a fact tehy will do anything for their family. adn bTW both are eldest in the family. Just like simi.

The only thing i see melodramatise is her cry.

Originally posted by: gardes

Ramas, I am not sure I understand. Yeah, nasty people exist in real life or we would not have differences in peoples' characters and so do people with varied opinions exist in real life. learning happens with exchange of ideas.

Having said that, the female protagonist in any serial, book, movie is shown to be an extremely strong person, of high moral integrity and a few weaknesses. Drama centers around the weaknesses and the characters around the protagonist are brought into play to support or oppose the main character. This is the basis of any fiction. If you have good writers, you have a good serial. If they pull storylines out of a hat which have no connectivity or relevance to the lead's character, you get jibberish! What you see now is jibberish because of the need of the writers to provide melodrama, action, romance, etc, etc, all rolled into one! It may make sense to some people but discerning viewers will definitely trash what they see happening to their favorite show.

Just my viewpoint!

oh no I fully agree they have shown simi with good character and her sacrifcing nature. But then her character is over shadowed by her insecurities to speak up. and may be they are intedning abhi to work on it. let us see how the story unfolds as it progresses,

Originally posted by: ramas

first of all I do not understadn why a production house should be ashmed of their show. They cater to the needs of public demand and give what public ask for. KB is a drama and as a rule drama is always dramtized sometimes over dramatized.

We watch it because we like it or else why would we waste 20 minutes of our time every day?.

I can find at least few good things about this episode. and yes what neil did was stunts we have seen worst in many movies and that article was some one's opnion I do not agree with. Some times the best movies are criticized badly. That does not mean we accept that.

Now the things I liked.

i liked simi thrashing nakul and standing upto her vow.

I liked nakul finally being beaten up hurting his ego which he is full off.

and why would abhi uses sindoor when he already got cuts to win his love back. Blood was used in old times to fill mang of suhagan by veer yodhas. Abhi did same rather than using sindoor that was brought for thepurpose of nakul putting in simi's maaang

I liked simi admitting to manju finally rather than getting scared.

I liked RB doing at least do one good deed of helping abhi .

You may defer with all my points.

But for me it was one of the best epsiode I do admit they could have done better.

But I throughly enjoy what was shown.

It wasn't easy for girl like simi to in public like that and admit abhi is her husband. She waited as she froze seeing what was happening to abhi. But she snaped out in time.

I am sure theye intended to giv eus 100th epsiode full of excitement drama comedy and action with litttle romance and they succedded in it.

after all it is drama isn't it?

Let us hope fro teh best now that it is again starting from 1 I mean 101st episode.

I am sure this show will last for a long time as it is one of teh most popular show gts into top 10 many times despite being a less thans 6 months old.😊

ramas,
I am talking about the 100th episode here. I would like to read your comments for the 100th episode and not about the entire show. I am sure you must read my views a lot of time prior to this about my views till the 99th episode, so I would like my views about the 100th episode and the rest of them separately and would prefer others to do the same.

Now coming to the public demand. This is the same thing that is said when in a movie something atrocious is shown that doesn't go down well with the masses. According to me thats an easy escape answer. If something is not good, blame it on the viewers or the janata at large. Oh I do have problem with some of the articles where they write things about something which they have no knowledge. One e.g. of such article is here https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/27922386.

But in the article https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/12-24-karol-bagh/1343549/article-12-24-karol-bagh-action-or-comedy the author has defintely watched the show because he is writing points from the show and also he is talking about some of the viewers.

Coming back to KB, yes KB is a TV drama and not a C grade movie and the 100th episode did not had to be turned into one.

KB was a beautiful drama when it began. Like I said before it grew with each and every episode. It had its loyal viewers and I was one such loyal viewer. I can't tell enough how beautiful KB was till mid-nov and that when things started going down bit by bit. There are people who can watch on and off, I am not one of them. I tried to find good things from mid-nov because I cared for this show. There were times were some of the forumers were panicking about Abhi & Simi marriage and I was cool as cucumber because I always knew there would not be anything wrong with that marriage. Everything was ok, yes, their script was weak and bringing in Nakul was the weakest of all. It would have been good if because of Nakul Simi or Abhi or both realise they are in love, that would have been a great thing because we would have gotten to see how a sanskaari, simple girl who is the eldest of the family having so many responsibilities set by her mother about being an example to her younger siblings would deal with the emotions of falling in love with a younger guy Abhi. But the story writers did not take that route. They made Simi & Abhi fall in love with each other and knowing about it and the character of Nakul wasn't used there. What I mean to say is that Nakul was not the reason for Simi or Abhi to have that realization. They went with a story with was weak from then on. They went all the way where Simi had to almost marry Nakul. I went with the flow because I knew since the Nakul's storyline they were going into a path where they could not back off. It had to be that way. I did not agree about bringing in RB to help Abhi. But in the 100th episode, things could have been better. They did not need the melodrama part. They did not need to copy from 70s bollywood scene. The fight scene were so tacky.

As a script, Simi could not stand Nakul thirsty for Abhi's blood and cannot stand anymore and finally blurting out the truth, as I said said earlier, they had no other go in that point in the story other than what they had to do. The point that you have listed all look good when read as a script. But the execution of that story from paper to screen media was bad. That is the reason why I was I say that I was ok until their 99th episode and not the 100th episode. The goons fighting scene were so bad, It was so obvious they were waiting for instructions like - OK, you the goon from Bhalla's side, now you hit. Now, stop. Now, goons from Nakul's side, you hit. Ok, enough, now you stop. Ok they are not the main characters, I can forgive. Same with the fight with Abhi & Nakul. They were waiting for the instructions. It was so obvious. Smriti's acting while Simi is hitting Nakul was also not convincing. Repeating the same dialogues and it was so obvious Smriti's heart was not in it while she was acting that part. The actors need to be convinced of what they are doing before they can put in their conviction in the role they play. If that is not there then the performance gets pathetic and it is the directors job to get that act out well. I can pin-point each and everyone's performance in that 100th episode. is there any hurry? I have said this prior too, this isn't a movie that they need to tell their story in 2.5hrs time. Its a TV drama, they can show it a bit slower (Oh here I am not asking them to go as slow as CB). They put in so much of hard work to present each episode. Do it slowly, give important to each and every department and develop something which they are proud off and also the viewers can be proud of watching so that we can recommend to others from our friends circle.

I am emotionally attached to this drama and hence do not like it going down like this and with the 100th episode, I am put to shame by these creatives. These are my honest feelings of this show and the 100th episode. Can I say that please without being felt my arm-twisted?

I just hope that the story now reloves well into Abhi and Simi's life !! focus can be on Simi and Abhi and how They can reconcile with Manju together !!!

Manju can be easily transformed She is emotionally weak so Abhi can get her to accept this realtionshiop easily
The Cv's should see this criteria and bring a change in the way the society can view this relationship and thus making Manju also agree to it !!