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Posted: 8 years ago
Happy Sunday DTwasion. 😃
So I read here, that ppl ACTUALLY supported Karamjala Nalcali? Were they sleeping throughout the show or what?😲

I mean how can someone find an abusive, delusional man as hot?🤬
I mean fine, I too have a soft corner for men who are slightly greyish and possessive but craving for downright abusive man is idiocy.
They actually support him and feel that Kerim wronged him? Oh God! 😡
I please want to puke on their faces who find Mustafa hot! No Offense to Firat, but I don't find him hot at all, nor he's an amazing actor cuz he appears the same in almost every scene.🥱
I daresay that instead of him, I find Engin Ozturk to be a better actor. Sorry Not Sorry! 😆😆😆


@Ayesha A polite request, please dont quote or requote to large number of times cuz it makes the page difficult to load. 😊


Okay, so the last episode of the week was again nothing short of disappointment from the leads and the worst thing being, I know FG is hell bent to make me pull my hair out in frustration for her everlasting healing and logics but Kerim is disappointing me too nowadays.
The way he's so casual and taunting about his father is such a turnoff. I don't expect FG to apologize but shouldn't Kerim atleast have a sense to apologize the only man whose doing everything he can to find out the truth for his son? The only human who is genuinely worried about Kerim in that whole of paagalkhana? He was downright rude to him in the pre wedding celebrations and even last night.
Kerim don't make me bash you like I do for FG, otherwise it's gonna be very very bad.😡
Like said earlier, I've immense respect for Farhettin Ilgaz. ❤️ The only man with rational sensible thinking in the whole group whose just worried about his son.

Gullie. Like someone mentioned, whenever she has nothing to say in defense of Mustafa all she can say is such talks hurt her. Yeah Right, but it doesn't hurts you to rant about him in front of your psychiatrist, or scream your lungs out in his favor even after knowing what all shit he did to her.
Even from the Precap, it's so LIKE her to believe Mustafa and then land herself up in trouble! She needs to stop pretending herself to be some braveheart.😡
Also, she didn't seem a bit relieved after knowing about the culprits of Kerim and Vural. Past Affecting Much?😡


Hacer, Though I feel nil sympathy for her but the hug between her and Samin was heartwarming and even the way, he left everything just to be with her.❤️
Please stop being a Mrs Dumbo Nalcali and appreciate the love that life is giving you.
Though they got caught, 😆😆😆 But I loved how Samin was so concerned about her.

The romance between Mer+ Kadir is so beautiful. 😳
I love the scene where Meriyam asks him to narrate a few lines for her in return of her singing and when he did, she admits that she just did this to trap hum. 😆😆😆
The soft kiss and how he runs after her to make her sing was Aww..❤️
Well, this should have been done for someone else, but anyways.

Trust Muqaddas to blabber everything to her and it was so pervy when she asked Meriyam about what nighty she wore at their wedding night! 🤣
I mean this woman has no shame whatsoever, and is so interested in knowing about others sex life.
Glad that Meriyam shut her up.😆😆

The Yasran Circus worrying about Mustafa and I don't get their fascination about keeping Mustafa with themselves? Is it necessary to keep that Leechar with them? I mean they can keep him under tight security.🥱
Meltem has to be the most dumbest sissy in the universe for still believing that Mustafa is innocent when Kadir turned up at the Yasrans. It's high time her character should be done away with.

Erdogan! 🤣 I mean this man is still concerned about meeting his girlfriend when Mustafa is tied up in the house to get some pleasure out of such stressful situations. 🤣🤣
Selim's piss in the pants expressions when Mustafa somewhat threatened to somewhat kill him and Erdogan.🤣🤣
I don't get why they're so shit scared of him? I would've just laughed on his face.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04


Even in India, people love only abusive guys n think good guys as boring. Lets do a little experiment. Make FG remake in India, cast a popular actor as Musti while cast a not so popular actor as Kerim n then see d reaction of d people.


Don't you think you're too judgemental and rude on the Indian Audiences?
There may be nutcases but the fact is everyone is not a nutcase. Had it been the truth, then most of the people here wouldn't have bashed Mustafa like they do and even criticize Kerim knowing all the efforts he has put in even now.

And originally it was the Turkish audience who sided with Mustafa. Here whatever I've read, Mustafa is hated.
So all in all, viewers in every country are a mixed bag.

Be it popular hero, or not so popular hero everyone does not support an abusive character nor fantasize about him. Those doing that maybe the diehard fan of that actor, but for majority we know how to get our priorities right.
I'm sure there may be many who find Firat hot, but that doesn't means they side with his character.

So it's extremely rude to say that ppl in India love abusive heroes. And it's not the first time, you've done this, I've quoted and replied to you in previous DT's as well. Be it the Indian Audience, Or Indian Dubbing Artists or any other thing.
I try my best to avoid but can't since you're directly judging my country.

And this is the last post from my side cuz I've had enough of this.
Edited by MohabbatGirl.x - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I've always said that what happened to FG in the start was wrong and Kerim letting it happen was even worse. Period.
As an audience we are not used to watching flawed characters. We have mahaan leads in our shows who keep sacrificing everything till the freaking show ends. Kerim is flawed and he has made mistakes, nothing can change that. But he moved past it all when he owned up to it all to get justice for FG. He's the reason this case started in the first place.

So yes I think I too as a viewer have moved ahead of it. Vural, on thw other hand kept sulking but he never wanted to pay for his crimes. He wanted the easy way out, death. So comparing these two wont be right.

No offense to anyone, this simply how I feel.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Beginning with Team Gullie, all thanks to Hacer for throwing MustiBomb at them and once again a tensed atmosphere surrounds Kadir Killa. 🥱 Seriously, they spend one day of bliss and then face a new problem, some expected and some unexpected.

Mukaddes indeed got a good chance to spoil MeDir's honeymoon, though it was not even completely her fault since Meryem already sensed something was wrong. 🤔 And now her continuous inquiries about the wedding night is annoying me, seriously. 😆 It's not about being conservative, I say that teasing once or twice is fine, but talking about it every time and that too so hormonally is just so irritating, especially when Meryem has made it clear that she really doesn't like talking about it. 😵
And what was she exactly trying to do when she talked about Mustafa in front of Gullie, saying that he became a criminal and crossed all limits in her love? 😲 Excuse me lady, that SOB crossed all the limits not because he loves Gullie, but because he's self-obsessed and he loves his own pride & ego more than anything/anyone in this world.

Talking of Kerim, I'd say that I was still mad at him for being rude to Fahrettin, even yesterday at one point he got pissed off to see his father being too involved in the case. 👎🏼 Socho Kerim, you and other Kadir Killa residents would never even figure out most of the things if Sir Rajni wasn't there to help you guys! And I did feel happy to see him talking to Fahrettin nicely, and expressing that he is indeed doing a lot to get both all the cases solved quickly. 😳
Fahrettin Bey is the ONLY man who doesn't care whether its' day or night, cuz all he wants is simply to see his son and his family living peacefully without any further troubles, and I salute him for the kind of concern & protectiveness he shows towards them. Of course he's doing all this to fill for the days when he wasn't present with his son, and he may also not be father of the year, but the way he's meeting different people related to the case directly or indirectly is just commendable. ⭐️ Serdar was quite sure about Mustafa being a murderer, but it was only because of Fahrettin that he narrated to the police about the events of the fateful night when Vural was killed.

However, certain moments I liked were MeDir's romantic walk in the park and Kadir reciting his golden poetry to Meryem. ❤️ They were so not looking like they're old enough, sach mein, age doesn't mater. 😳 Meryem looked really pretty with the red hat, and the way she tricked him by saying that she'd sing a song for him was so cute! 😳
Loved how Gullie held Kerim's hand when he was tensed because of Mustafa. ❤️ And honestly I do understand his POV when he says that he feels bad about that leechar being obsessed with her and creating havoc in their lives. 😒 Dunno what to say about Gullie here cuz she has already annoyed me so much in past few episodes. 😆 Maybe you guys are right, she doesn't have anything to speak in that SOB's defense so she remains silent. :P

Then comes Hacer, for whom I've still got zero sympathy and her actions don't affect me that much now, but I'd say that I really admire Sami for not leaving her alone yesterday. The way he worriedly sat in the taxi and then the next moment decided to go with Hacer was just so sweet of him... Seriously, I wanna bang my head against a wall if Dumbo Nalcali still doesn't sense how much that dude loves her. I also liked how confidently he encouraged Hacer to speak the truth to police without being afraid of anything. 😳 And I badly wanted to puke when she still had enough feelings for that leechar to recall their first meeting... 🤢 Or maybe she was cursing the moment when she met him for the first time? 😆

Coming to Y.Circus, the way Yasarans and Alagozs ended up blaming each other for hiring that sadi machhli and doubting where whom is he exactly working for, amused me to no end! 🤣😆 And if that wasn't enough, we had our Omer Bey present there, giving those "I know what you're trying to do!" looks to Risat with a wicked smile! 🤪 Erdogan too passed wicked smile to Meltem if anyone noticed. 😆

And like discussed yesterday, I don't exactly get how Musti can be of a use to Yasarans since Munir invited him to The Yasaran Lodge' and made Yasar his room service by ordering him to take care of his khaana, peena and sona. 😆😆 In fact, it was insanely amusing to see Munir and Yasarans ke chiraag running downstairs hastily as if they were excitedly waiting for Mustafa! 🤣🤣

IMO Mustafa has no right to give those special glares to Selim and Erdogan; they both shouldn't appear scared in front of him in fact. I didn't even like it when he gave death glares to Vural also whenever they both came across in the company, as if ye khud doodh ka dhula mahaan insaan hai. 🤬
Mrs. Laale's Shot barking continuously during the scene was a symbol of the dog sensing ill? 😛 Yeah see even animals sensed that Musti is such a disgrace in the name of human. 🤬
Erdogan being in his usual Kemina avatar cracked me up when he expressed his desire to be with his girlfriend instead of sitting at home and thinking about Musti... Yeah that's the way, you dawg! 😈 #WhatAKemina 😆

Erdogan- Meri girlfriend mera intezaar kar rahi hai.
Selim- Are you serious? Tu iss situation mein bhi apni girlfriend ke baare mein soch raha hai?
Erdogan- Uss insaan ke baare mein sochne se achha hai ki main apni girlfriend ke saath waqt bitaaun! 🤣

And Munir Mamaji amused me with his "Mehmaan ko kamra dikha diya ab main jaa raha hun." 😆😆 Not to forget how Selim was shit scared on being alone with Mustafa!

Mustafa- Kisi ko bhi pata nahi chalega ki yahan par kya hua.
Selim- Yeh behooda baatein karna band kar! 🤣 🤣

Talking of Risat, no matter how much he tries to be cool and composed in front of Yasaran ladies, his dear his darling Perihan surely senses something fishy when he took them out for dinner amidst all the tension, and the way she was like "Kya hum Mustafa ki khabar ka jashn mana rahe hain?" was hilarious! 🤣

P.S- Kerim looked so desirable when he protectively carried Elif in his arms as she fell asleep. Gullie please get healed fast and bring a cute little doll for him pretty soon! ❤️
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shanaya,I am sorry.I didn't know about this.I won't quote this much again.😊

@Shru,agree with what you said.Kerim is not perfect.He is an ordinary guy who became a hero with the choices he made.Otherwise no one is Dabangg or Singham from the beginning.
He still feels guilty that he did not protect FG that night.And he has remorse.The course of action which he took later on made him a hero.


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Posted: 8 years ago
And regarding our previous topic,I admit that I too have a soft corner for intense,passionate and slightly possessive guys.I am sure that many of us do.But that doesn't mean any of us here endorses abusive relationships.There is a heaven and hell difference between passionate and abusive.
Also saying that Indian people only love abusive men is unfair.Because there are many Indian shows which have spoken against abusive men.
Regarding people who support abusive men,then they are present all over the world and not only in India.There are people of all sorts and likings and they aren't categorised on the basis of their country.For example,if rape happens in India then it also happens in USA,UK and the rest of the world.
Edited by ---Andromeda--- - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Yes, Shru & others, Kerim is a flawed hero & he was a weak man who didnt have enough courage to raise his voice against bad, but love for FG made him stronger & gave him courage to do what was right is what s implied in this show. That much I very well understood. But they could have shown it in a more convincing way why Kerim though still present at the rape scene didnt help FG bcos it was also shown that he himself didnt remember what he did or didnt do bcos it was the first time for him taking the drinks/drugs combo unlike the other 3 . So either he was very much aware of what was going on or he was too stoned to know what was happening, that s what is botched up, IMO. But anyway, let s leave it bcos we all got the general idea!😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
I won't be writing much since you people have discussed the topic pretty well, especially loved the posts of Shruti, Shanaya and Sehar.
Yet, I can't stop myself from writing. :P Kerim's deed is a very sensitive thing to discuss cuz like you people mentioned, we are quite used to perfect protagonists (note: male female both) and so it's kind of hard for us to digest the fact that the male protagonist in FGSN is at biggest fault since he was a silent viewer to that crime.

Yes, Kerim is a flawed character but what makes him different is the fact that he didn't have even a single moment of peace till he blurted out to Meryem and till present this guilt resides in him. What makes him extraordinary one is the fact that despite of being at fault, Kerim had enough courage to get the case re-opened without thinking for once what punishment would be given to him. ⭐️

I guess some may object if I use the word 'extraordinary' for him, but it's just my POV cuz I've always said that it's really difficult to find people like Kerim around us. Anyway, I'd welcome criticism. :)

Also, this is a show so we obviously tend to start forgiving and loving Kerim at one point, but if we think of it as a real-life situation, most of us wouldn't have forgiven Kerim or even think of bright future with him this soon.


@Sehar- I think comparing Kerim & Vural would be possible only if we compare all the 4 guys because they all have/had very different behaviour after the incident. Hope you get what I mean to say. 😳 Because earlier I've made these comparisons many times, and you are absolutely right on the fact that where Kerim emerged as a courageous one to owe up to his crimes, Vural was too coward to even discuss about his thoughts with his parents despite of his guilt eating him up from within. Whereas the other two pisliks gave a damn about that incident and moved on, as if nothing happened!


I wasn't supposed to write much. 😆
Edited by whiterose29 - 8 years ago
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To start with did anyone watch the Coldplay concert? My cousins from Mumbai went and they said it was awesome. I had to watch it on my idiot box 😭
I'll start with my ray of sunshine, Omer, his intelligence is the reason for all the points Team FG has earned in this case. I'm in love with his brains. The glare he gave to Rissat when he went to look for Musti 😉😉. It reminded me of the stink eye and laugh he gave Munir when he offered them a deal in Kadirs office 😆😆. He's superb 😳😳

Then come Kadir and Mer and their romance. They are so normal and romantic. Their weekend plans and telling MQ that they are going for treatment 😆😆. They are Just like a newly wed couple should be. And then ek kavita pe ek gaana muft muft muft 😆. That poetry was deep and about his loneliness after his wife's death. The man has hidden talents 😳. Me impressed. Mer teases him and then running after each other. Aww!

MQ ruins everything by blurting it all out. And then she feels for Musti. 😡

Yasran circus houses another guest called Musti. Why cant they just kill him and bury him in the sea. Selim shit scared by his presence and being Home Alone with him. Erdogan leaves to meet up with his gal pal...lol.

Perihan Hilmiye on a dinner date with Rissat, they are last of Yasrans to learn of the Real Murderers of Istanbul TV Series. The way Peri said " Dekho wo gya" reminded me of the song "Piya tu ab to aa ja...shola sa man behke aake ke bujha ja" 🤣

Hacer decides to leave and Samin accompanies. He's a real stand up guy. Wish she could open her freaking eyes and see the difference between true love and lust. Finally they are caught and Sami yells for her to speak up. While she reminisce her first Musti meeting. He was such a jerk to her even back then.

Ender finally after her successful brain implant knows Mustis reality. Meltems surgery turned out to be an absolute failure 😆😆

Now FaRim. I'm fruatated at them. Both of them are idiots and both are at fault. Kerims emphasis on how Musti still loves FG and utters that old bollywood dialogues "Wo tumhe bhool jaye ye ho nahi sakta aur tum use bhool jao ye wo hone nahi dega" fully Sunny Paji style. I know he's insecure and upset but Mustis cheap mentality cannot truly be blamed on FG. Yes I haven't forgot her overtlu sympathetic attitude towards that letch. But its not completely her fault. It's Mustis sick brain. Coming to FG she is an idiot too. Instead of telling the whole world about her Musti Hatred she should tell it to Kerim.

Plus WTH was she thinking going with Musti in tbe precap. Did she really believe she could talk spme sense into a murderer? 😡😡

Fahrenheit on a one man mission to protect his son and FG. I swear if him and Omer weren't on their side they would've lost the case in terms of evidence. Immese respect for these two and how hard they are fighting. 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
Yesterday when MeDir were talking about Ferim, why did Meryem sound so hopeless about FG recovering & why did she sound even more unconvinced about Kerim s love for FG when earlier she was so happy about it & used to encourage him. Kadir had to convince her , it seemed to me, that Kerim really loves FG & not pities her or some such thing . Correct me if am wrong please!

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