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Posted: 8 years ago
Here again to share my views on FG...
Regarding Ozgee being braver than FG. I beg to differ here. They both r victims of a henious act. I wont compare who is more or less brave. But if Ozgee is Brave than FG too is as brave as Her.
Point being mentioned that if Ozgee's BIL is culprit than she is braver bcoz she has to face him daily...
So, by that logic For FG initially when she was not aware about the truth Kerim too was one of them for her..N we have seen how she was towards him.. Even once she tried to kill him too.
For FG it was Kerim who gave her courage to fight against culprits n for Ozgee it is FG who is giving her first glimpse of hope, courage to fight...
Why FG is brave for me?
1. She called Meltem on her wedding day without being afraid of consequences.
2. She had that spirit in her to lead a normal life... she wanted to work n be independent.
3. When Erdogan attacked at their house with goons. The way she behaved n dealt with it goes to show how courageous she is.
4. For court hearing, when Kadir, Meryem n Kerim wanted her not to attend it. She faced them without being afraid. Wow what a scenes that was.
After being raped by 3 men brutally if a girl hopes for a normal life n have children in future than in my opinion is brave n courageous. And she has a very understanding, sensitive life partner as Kerim to help her, encourage her...
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Posted: 8 years ago
As Kerim said in this episode, he is the same man and there is only one Kerim. He is both the man who over a year ago was weak enough (in his week moments) to become just a live witness and unable to take right actions when his friends to cummit an atrocity, & the man who is respectful, kind, caring and in love with FG. Now, he has matured and grown than before, this is true. But each of us is a combination of who we once were and who we are. Like; FG has also mature and grown than what she was one year before. We are all a mixture of good and bad, and things in-between. Even FG is mixture of good (decisions) and bad (decisions), and things in-between. If FG is ever going to Accept (by heart) and Embrace (by body) Kerim as her True Husband, she cann't go on believing the other Kerim is dead. She has to learn to forgive that Kerim, because the Kerim he used to be the Kerim that will always be a part of him.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: DefLeppard

🤣 to infinity!!!
I cracked hard on this one!!! Agree, agree...plus they were designer too. Different one for prosecutors office. Lol

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Atleast u thought of Washington Apples...It reminded me of those net bags which we get in Reliance fresh to put vegetables😆🤣

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Posted: 8 years ago
Dummy's Guide to Backstab
*a dagger not needed*

Erdo wants to investigate the back bite conversations he has over heard
*inner voice - that circus programme?*
Dummy : Haan! He told Musti to keep away from trapeze acts in the circus show tonight. LMAO

Dummy Moment : That Erdo is cheeky enough to find out the mole of Risat and says Hi to bade paapa!Loved it

Musti's weakness now is his passport. Although he is lured to telling his role in the Erdogander in subway, he plays it down well
*inner voice - btw where is he going?*
Dummy sings...woh shaam kuchch ajeeb thi, Yeh shamm bhi ajeeb hai. Main jaanta hoon, Mera naam gunguna raha hai wo (Risat)

Perihaan knows that Helmiye is overhearing her conversation. She catches her quickly to dissolved dis-loyality.
inner voice - will she learn?*
Dummy : Oh.ho! All she said was lets use Pril for dish washing*Bartan Chamkein, Aur Ristey Bhi*

Dummy Moment : Looks like she has found a middle ground on the FG case after several backstab strategies from Risat. Her moral lessons on bachche v/s gunegar was surreal.

Musti packing his bags to flee from the harassment. Finally Halide asks Kya kaam karte ho!
*inner voice - der hi sahi...*
Dummy : See...achche parvarish mom's know when to interrogate.*like mine asks me the day after the hangover is over* LOL

Erdo proves that Risat has double crossed him. And while Risat threatens Musti, the passport and pen drive becomes the bone of contention.
*inner voice - so the circus program changed?*
Dummy : Hence proven that Trapeze stunts are more dangerous and popular too.? ROFL

Gullie meets Ozge the victim of the same crime. The words of pep seems to work on Ozge ...but very tepid response.
Ozge and her mom totally indebted to their damaat has its own perils?
*inner voice - achche parvarish damaat..he looked like*
Dummy sings...tere mere beech mein...kaisa hai..yeh bandhan..anjaana...puraana?

Gullie gives her expert advice on eyes spice, dumb charades, twenty questions. truth or dare etc. ...You know all the games she played with Kerim & Maryem.

Dummy Alert : Season 1..first few episodes Gullie's stares were also similar.

Kerim's feels victimized by meeting Ozge. Those flashbacks show case his fears so deep seated. And he quickly realizes that Ozge to have read their story to her abrupt reaction.
Dummy would like to differ to interpret that Ozge reacted not for Kerim's hand on Gullies shoulder, but just enough to realize the Gullie her only source of hope was fading out.

Dummy Moment : Like mentioned by @Shanaya, most of the sexual abuse cases are unreported as the culprit is known/established/trusted contact of the victim*betrayals of life*

Maryem is really excited to see the 6-8 seconds videos clips. She spots Musti as the 3rd peecha adami
*inner voice - just like we enjoy the animated GIFs in whatsapp*
Dummy : LOL. But this is front stab...*in front of Kadir*kill me*

Erdo is warranted before Nil. Does this put a stop all the dishonesty in him now...at least wrt Nil?
*inner voice - hope fully*
Dummy : Kahan yaar. He just handed over her a copy of "Roman Holidays" DVD. LOL

Gullie brings dinner to Kerim. He is upset on the Musti again showing his true colors. Dummy screamed her lungs out...Feed him Gullie. He needs your care.
*inner voice - she did say Humse baat karo*
Dummy : Thatz it. Musti Trading Company stocks crashed in Gullie Sensex!! ROFL

The guilt of being a silent spectator during rape aggravates after Ozge's meeting. Kerim is devastated. Gullie intercepts vulnerable Kerim in kitchen.
*inner voice - is he scared?*
Dummy : Arree! Kya karta bechara. He told many times..he does like horror movies. Zabardasti he watched...Scream.
Looks like even Gullie looked haunted movie artist with her hair open...running around in the night.

Group study : Did anything happen in the kitchen...with that haathon mein haat...chaar kadam aage types? LOL

Maryem and Kadir sync up on the proceedings. Its really nice for Maryem to remember Ustad Galip in gratitude even in testing time.
*inner voice - can we talk of future please?*
Dummy : Yeahh...Operation Oasis next edition. LOL

Dummy's Gyan : Loyalty runs on sacrifices. Those that cannot make sacrifices cannot be loyal to anybody!!

Dummy's Profound Gyan :
Musti & MQ sacrificed Gullie
They expect loyalty
To be treated in royalty
Roam around buoyantly
How many more do we have in our society?

PS:
1.Great to see the miya-biwi working in the cafe. They should spend more time like this...unforced and occupied.
2.Loved to see Musti playing the chor-police following all the rules of the game. Runs for life.
3.Risat invites Perihaan "Dear" for a jog in the morning. ROFL
Edited by DefLeppard - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shalu
Agree to all the points on why FG is more stronger for the given circumstances at her end. The biggest advantage for Gullie is strong Maryem and changed/matured Kerim. Else she was also bound to be in a loop of MQ,Munir and Mustafa(if he had married her)

Ozge's case is a closed loop, unless a 3rd party intervenes to break the loop. Need to see if FG becomes a Maryem in her case.

@Pahal
Love the summary of the present +past = future.
Dont want to add anything here.*undisputed*smiles*
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Posted: 8 years ago
I don't think that we'ld compare who is more brave in FG & Ozge. I think, the actuall bravery of any rape victim (or any victim) start when they decide to fight back. And here FG has started her fight against her culprits, but Ozge didn't start it till date. Here point to be noted, initially Kerim was the one who started FG's fight not actually FG. But Ozge's situation is now defenetally wrost, b'coz she did't vent out all her feelings after that terribale day of her life. We can say that Ozge is not living, actually she is dying everyday, woh bhi from a long time. Now Ozge also needs someone like Kerim in her life who initiate her fight and good news is, FG is that person for her.

And @Shalu!
1)
FG called Meltem on her wedding day; But only after returning from her advencher tour in which she learned that her Mustafa mooved on with Asu. And do't forget that she married with Kerim and keep quit specially for Mustafa.
2)
FG has that spirit in her to lead a normal life; But only after leaving her all concern for Mustafa behind her.

Here i mentioned Mustafa's importance in FG's past life b'coz in case of Ozge, she is defenetally concern for her family more than herself.

Our Family and Our Love Ones'ld our strength not weekness, but unforchunetally somtimes our strength becomes our weekness too. Like Mustafa was for FG, even Rahmi became her weekness some days before, like FG is Kerim's strength as well as his weekness too. Itz just we do't want our near and dear one suffer, they become our weekness. Otherwise, if we'll always believe that they'ld face (or experince) the bitter realty too for their better future, neither they'll become our weekness nor we'll become them week.

And i guess, ab isase jyada likha toh monday ka episode first time viewers ke liye spoile ho sakta hai. So, topic closed.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@IAB Loved ur previous post on Kerim-Fg kicthen scene. Well said. Each one of us has something good n something bad...
Agree with u whatever u said in this post too. That was my views on previous posts about Ozgee being more braver than FG.
I totally agree that Kerim n Meryem's played major role in FG's fight. Its bcoz of their support she is fighting against culprits.
Agree that initially Musti was her weakness. Bcoz of him she married Kerim. But I think that also requires guts to marry someone whom u consider ur enemy for ur love (though Musti doesnt deserve it all). But thanks to Musti n MQ, we got our FERIM
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Posted: 8 years ago
Shalu, am coming shortly too with my disagreeing post , wait please 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shalu79

@IAB Loved ur previous post on Kerim-Fg kicthen scene. Well said. Each one of us has something good n something bad...

Agree with u whatever u said in this post too. That was my views on previous posts about Ozgee being more braver than FG.
I totally agree that Kerim n Meryem's played major role in FG's fight. Its bcoz of their support she is fighting against culprits.
Agree that initially Musti was her weakness. Bcoz of him she married Kerim. But I think that also requires guts to marry someone whom u consider ur enemy for ur love (though Musti doesnt deserve it all). But thanks to Musti n MQ, we got our FERIM

I said naa, sab spoile ho jayega...but coz u mentioned this @Bold line, then i wanna say that Ozge is also facing her culprit/enemy...&...you think that was FG' Guts & i think that was her 'weekness come fear come reqvirment come stupidity come wrong decision' same as Kerim's...what happens after marriage, if Kerim is actually not a good man, if he is like Erdo/Selim, if he actually raped her...then, are we really giving here example of FG as a brave and fighter woman?

I just want to say that Ozge is just in earlier stage of FG after rape...only diffrance is, Ozge is taking (or living) much more time in this stage than FG only b'coz of her silence...and break her silence about her culprit is defenetally tough for Ozge, in comparison to FG.
Edited by I-Am-Beholder - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Vids Loved Your Dummies Guide To Backstab. *a knife not needed.* 😆😆
Erdogan asking Musti to keep away from Trapeze acts in the circus. 😆😆 Musti telling Erdogander and Erdogan singing woh shaam kuch ajeeb thi..!! 🤣

Perihan using Pril on Hilmiye! Bartan Chamkaye Aur Rishte Bhi..!! 🤣🤣

Gullie looking like one of the horror artists with wild hair, running around in midnight! 🤣

And I agree, l would've loved if Gullie had fed him instead of just asking to have his dinner. He needs her support. Like I mentioned, I'm glad that she held his hand instead of coaxing like a child, but a hug would've been better.

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