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Posted: 9 years ago
Hey all.
Tis might be a spoiler. So spoiler warning.
Apologizing in advance to those who might get irked by it.
The reason mustafa is in the story is because to bring fatma and kerim closer te writers chose to use mustafas jealousy as a tool.
Kerim will always be insecure regarding mustafa as musti was fatmas first love that too out of choice and not circumstamces.also he is there so fatma could know what she has gained as a husband and wgat terrible mess she cluld have married to if were with musti. Mustafa is reflection of patriarchal society and kerim a more liberal one.

The 4 villains of yashran are to take the justice story forward. Mustafa is there to take the love story forward.

Mustafa is the tool n which kerims love and honesty will be measured against in the show. There will always be a comparison of thier love/obsession. Every action of his will bring fgnk together until fatma has no feeling left fir musti. No hate no regret not even sympathy or empsthy he wont even be worthless hes goin to be nothing.

In short mustafa is there to be a constant reminder what a giving forgiving understanding supportive and sacrificing kind of love kerim has for fatma. And musti also reflects fatmas hurt and there to shoew her healing process. The more she heals the farther from past she gets and until there is no connection left.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Q: Was Mustafa character in the original novel?
I guess in DT2 we discussed it.
If i can recall it was script doctors to have adapted the novel for changing times & tastes.
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Posted: 9 years ago
@Lannister&.SaraF,
Although we all know happy ending of this drama,
Dummy attempted to not to reveal the plot by comparing the question orginator @Kamala the Lotus akin to Kerim & the shallow, murky water around lotus akin to Musti.
*inner voice-lotus lakes are deep too*
Dummy takes deep breath.
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Posted: 9 years ago
@poweirz - Excellent deconstruction of Turkey's socioeconomic and geopolitical challenges and vulnerabilities. Just one correction though. This show is not really an adaptation of Vedat Trkali's novel which gave a true account of the story of a rape victim in Turkey. His novel did not have characters like Mustafa, Muquaddas, Meriyam etc which were added by the show's writers. As Bandana said in her post quoted below, writers of Fatmagul show just took the basic premise of the story from the novel and weaved their own story around it, introducing the above characters as well as many others which did not exist in the novel. So basically, the credit for the show's story goes to Ece Yren and Melek Genolu. Check out Bandana's post below to know the diff between the story of the novel and the show :))

Originally posted by: bandanaa


This show just takes its basic idea from that novel which was written by the famous Turkish novelist Vedat Trkali. The novel was based on the true story of a rape victim in Turkey. The show cannot even be called a loose adaptation of the novel...it's is so different from it. A movie however was made on this novel in 1986 and that cld be called its true screen adaptation.


Anyways, in the novel & movie, the girl gets raped by 4 men. 3 of these men are spoilt rich kids and the other is a local boy. The law at that time in Turkey forgave the act of rape if one of the rapists got married with the victim. So, the rich kids get rid of their crime by persuading the local boy to marry the girl. After the two marry, the trio walks free and leave the town. The local boy gets frustrated because he is the one who's left with a wife he does not want. He even beats her once because of which she miscarries their baby. But since the girl has nowhere to go, no one to trust, she accepts and loves her husband. The guy too eventually falls in love with her.

However for the tv series, famous scriptwriters Ece Yren and Melek Genolu just used some part of the basic premise/idea of the novel and created a completely diff and new story around it. For example, in the show Kerim is never shown to harm Fatmagul psychically. He is in fact shown as a righteous man and a passionate lover. Fatmagul too is shown as a strong feisty character who refuses to accept him as her husband until she falls in love with him. Also, the show introduces many new characters who didn't exist in the true story or in the novel. These include Mustafa, as Fatmagul's fiance, who dumps her immediately after the rape, Fatmagul's sister in law MQ, who is a sly, unreliable woman, Meriyam Abla, the woman who raised Kerim and is the biggest supporter for Fatmagul etc. Also, in reality or in novel, there's no war between the 3 rich boys and Kerim & FG which the series shows, Most importantly, the series shows Fatmagul getting justice with the culprits being put behind bars while in reality they had all walked free.

So, as you can see, the tv series does not have much in common with the novel except for the fact that the girl is gang raped and the rapists are rich boys who force her to marry a local friend of theirs. Rest everything is changed including the fact that the guy she marries is not a rapist. Therefore, we can't even consider it to be "based" on that novel actually. They just used a part of its basic premise and built their own epic story around it.

Good that they did so coz if they had they gone with the original story, the show wld have never worked, even in Turkey. In fact the show created a huge controversy till the time it wasnt made clear that Kerim had not raped Fatmagul, as public/media/social orgs etc had gone up in arms thinking that the series was going to show the victim getting married to her rapist and falling in love with him, thereby glorifying this kind of a union, esp since popular stars were playing these characters.

Edited by .KingSlayer - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Please refrain from quoting huge posts. Please give links. Else loading & browsing the DT becomes slow.
This would be @Shanaya's request, doing it on her behalf.
Cheers.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Just saw the new promo.Here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5-mEltSF1A
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: The.Lannister


SPOILERS! MAYBE?! DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED!!!!

As the story progresses a time comes when you sometimes forget what erdogan and selim did but you will never ever forget what Mustafa did. Though imo this excessive focus on Mustafa harms the story as it takes away from the main theme of rape and rapists n instead turns into it into a story of obsession and the psyhotic behavior of obsessed lovers. They should have killed Mustafa a lot earlier or just shown him going away after a while and concentrated more on selim and erdogan. Unfortunately they turned the main culprits into mere props and supporting characters.


Agree with you @Lannister.

*Spoiler*

As the show progresses, Mustafa's antics, all the twists and turns related to him go so totally over the top that it starts getting bizarre. One gets sick of the focus on him and his ridiculous FG focused dreams which were so unnecessary and irritated the hell out of me imo. Another character that gets unbearable and OTT is Muqddas. Erdogan, Selim's paralleley running stories become fillers and uninteresting. Biggest plus/USP of the show is that thankfully Fatma-Kerim dynamic/love story continues to be treated beautifully till the very end. Just wish they had found better ways to give impetus to their story instead of turning Musti into a complete psycho and MQ literally ridiculous and unbearable
Edited by .KingSlayer - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
@kingslayer and others...
I might have missed the point totally. Thanks for correcting. But all said and done, Fg's story reflects the commonplace conflicts of modern democracies and the fight for justice. Eagerly looking forward for today's episode.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: poweritz

@kingslayer and others...

I might have missed the point totally. Thanks for correcting. But all said and done, Fg's story reflects the commonplace conflicts of modern democracies and the fight for justice. Eagerly looking forward for today's episode.


@bold - True that poweritz 👍🏼
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Posted: 9 years ago
Someone please strangle Mustafa. Pathetic creature.he claims he loves Fatmagul. This man cant love anyone or anything except his ego. Moron with big M.

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