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Posted: 11 years ago
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hey everyone just wanted to clear one thing abt the show . i was watching the last episode and was reading some comments from youtube . some ppl had an issue abt the fact that khirad and ashar were first cousins how can they marry , they are brother and sister and stuff like that . so i wanted to know is cousin marriage prohibitied in india and if yes then is the reason is religion ( hinduism allows cousin marriages ?) and if not then reason is just that it increases the risk of genetic disorder in children ? india has huge muslim population too then u guys must know that there is no restriction in islam abt cousin marriage.
i want to clear this one thing that in islam we dont consider our cousins our brothers and sister . we are allowed to marry them . and culturaly our parents also prefer cousins for good suitors .So this is not an issue for us. If u are watcching any pakistani drama then u will come across this fact . So dont get offended . Cause its just too much normal for us . 😊😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Even in India also , in some communities , have seen many cases in Hindu community yes its very few . But its not genetically right .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well to be honest though I have loved few of your shows that have been telecast here. I am pretty disturbed to see that cousin marriages are so prevalent especially between first cousins.
It is not genetically good even in India like Neerja pointed out few communities have this tradition of in family marriages but with times thing have changed and with modernization, education people are coming out of it.

U will not find cousin marriages on Indian television. Infact Kareen and Ranbir Kapoor are first cousins but they will never act together in a film as hero heroine romancing each other and neither will Sonam and Arjun Kapoor who are also first cousins. They are brother/sister.


Another disturbing thing is to see that sex determination seems to be prevalent in Pakistan society as seen in some of your shows where it seems it is allowed to check weather the unborn child is male or female. In India it is considered illegal and we have laws which prevent this kind of tests which encourages female infanticide.

Last but not the least smoking am shocked to see male actors smoking royally on Pakistani shows which is more or less curbed on our tv and u rarely see actors smoke on tv and even in rarest cases u do we have a disclaimer that pops up saying Smoking is injurious to health.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think it's nothing to do with country and more to do with community. I am an Indian and am also a muslim and we do have cousin marriage. In fact my mom and dad r first cousins. It's not that one has to get married to cousins, but one can.

Also as TM said we don't consider cousins as brothers and sisters. In Islam it's all about Mehram and non-Mehram and Menrams can't marry each other and those wld include your own brother sisters, your mother's brother sisters, your father's brother sisters.

As far as how good it is genetically, I suppose it poses a problem only if there's some hereditary gene that cld lead to some genetic problems, otherwise it can be the other way round too.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chaithali

Well to be honest though I have loved few of your shows that have been telecast here. I am pretty disturbed to see that cousin marriages are so prevalent especially between first cousins.
It is not genetically good even in India like Neerja pointed out few communities have this tradition of in family marriages but with times thing have changed and with modernization, education people are coming out of it.

U will not find cousin marriages on Indian television. Infact Kareen and Ranbir Kapoor are first cousins but they will never act together in a film as hero heroine romancing each other and neither will Sonam and Arjun Kapoor who are also first cousins. They are brother/sister.


Another disturbing thing is to see that sex determination seems to be prevalent in Pakistan society as seen in some of your shows where it seems it is allowed to check weather the unborn child is male or female. In India it is considered illegal and we have laws which prevent this kind of tests which encourages female infanticide.

Last but not the least smoking am shocked to see male actors smoking royally on Pakistani shows which is more or less curbed on our tv and u rarely see actors smoke on tv and even in rarest cases u do we have a disclaimer that pops up saying Smoking is injurious to health.


hey do u rememembr the song ciggratte k dhooein ka chala bna k '' i think its an indian song . honestly i dont think that any of ur point is valid beacuse i think indian content also shows ppl smoking . and if we show a scene in which someone is smoking then channel put warning too .
secondly abt cousin marriages if you are watching a content from another country then u have to watch it and let the things go if u dont believe in them . Like i said we muslim dont consider cousins our sisters or brothers cause Quran has not restricted us to marry them . According to medical point of view i agree that it increases the risk of genetic disorders i m a medical student and i know all the diseases that result due to these kind of marriages but its not that u marry ur cousin and u going to have thalasemic major child . it doesnt work that way . anyways u have to respect others beleifs . we are educated too . As an educated memeber of pakistani society i ll follow my cultural values . i will marry someday who i will like . ( ab chahye wo mer cousin hi kio na ho ) only who are from my parents are my only brothrs and sisters . apart from them all other men are na mehram and i can marry any of them.
and 3rdly sex discrimination i dont get it what kind of discrimination as far as i know india has more discrimination than pakistan . abortion rate is too much high there . Pakistan has no such rule becuase there is nothing wrong knowing the gender . people dont usually kill their daughters before they are born . the reason is here abortion is strictly prohibited as it is not allowed in our religion untill or unless mother's health is severly compromised . thats y even if ppl dont want the child they have to bring it to world cause no one will ever do abortion . And india was ranked one in fetocidal killing thats y u ppl have the rule . personally i know alot of doctors dont tell the gender now a days and majority of mothers dont want to knwo cause they want it to b a surprise . any how every society has it s good and bads , Pakistani society too have evil side of it due to bad ppl . i watch indian movies even before marriage sex and all vulgarity disturbs me alot .( dont know but does ur culture allow it ) now u will say me narrowminded . But the truth is there are alot disturbing things happening than the things u pointed out in our dramas . atleast we dont show achohol addicts (alchohol addiction brings medical , behavioural and psycological harm ) than smoking . and i m not justifying that showing smoking is good . but if u justify all vulgarity just in the name of romance and demand of content . then we are justified enough to show everthing which is reality . and we are darng enough to accept the fact too . Whether khirad , kashaf , duree shahwar , our women are role models they are independent and patient .This is how u teaches ur society through good dramas . whch i thing atleast in this field we are doing great .
i dont intend to b rude or offend you . but ur reply was very straight foraward i thought i should be too 😊
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Buddy I had no intention of disregarding your country or community. As far as illegal prenatal testing is concerned it has been banned in India because of precisely like u mentioned of abortions that has been happening. So when I see shows from across the border where it seems there are no such legalities felt like pointing out that is all and not to say bad things about your community or country.

Yes there are lots of people who smoke in our country but govt is bringing in strict regulations to curb it by putting disclaimers all along and now there was even a move to ban loose cigarettes being sold so that people will have to buy a pack or people who are not thick smokers would give away this habit completely.
I think it is really sad to see how badly male leads are shown smoking in the dramas in Pakistan. I think this needs to change is what am pointing out. As for drinking there is even a move here to stop actors showing drinking in movies and there is also a move to put in disclaimers for drinking.

As far as cousin marriages is concernned like I said there are communities even in India and not just muslims but also Hindus where there is this practise but by and large people abstain now because of the complications it can cause and also it is not looked upon as good. I for one don't like it and that is my POV and by and large in India you will not find this practice does not mean it does not happen here. Many communities still hold this practice even in India but by and large marrying ones cousin is more or less considered a taboo.

Again I say this in good spirit and should be taken like that only.

I love Pakistani shows for their content and good acting and that is why I have loved and appreciated your shows.

Hope debate is taken in the right spirit and not to compare and only criticize.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chaithali

Buddy I had no intention of disregarding your country or community. As far as illegal prenatal testing is concerned it has been banned in India because of precisely like u mentioned of abortions that has been happening. So when I see shows from across the border where it seems there are no such legalities felt like pointing out that is all and not to say bad things about your community or country.

Yes there are lots of people who smoke in our country but govt is bringing in strict regulations to curb it by putting disclaimers all along and now there was even a move to ban loose cigarettes being sold so that people will have to buy a pack or people who are not thick smokers would give away this habit completely.
I think it is really sad to see how badly male leads are shown smoking in the dramas in Pakistan. I think this needs to change is what am pointing out. As for drinking there is even a move here to stop actors showing drinking in movies and there is also a move to put in disclaimers for drinking.

As far as cousin marriages is concernned like I said there are communities even in India and not just muslims but also Hindus where there is this practise but by and large people abstain now because of the complications it can cause and also it is not looked upon as good. I for one don't like it and that is my POV and by and large in India you will not find this practice does not mean it does not happen here. Many communities still hold this practice even in India but by and large marrying ones cousin is more or less considered a taboo.

Again I say this in good spirit and should be taken like that only.

I love Pakistani shows for their content and good acting and that is why I have loved and appreciated your shows.

Hope debate is taken in the right spirit and not to compare and only criticize.

well i respect ur opinions then. And as far as pre natal testing is concerned i agree at that point . We have these kind of jahil ppl in our societies who kill their child only by knowing that she is baby girl . Anyways i hope pakistan will make a rule like ur govt made .its a debate able topic . To prevent from killing fetus we should have a rule and regulations too . Like pakistan strictly prohibits abortions. I think prenatal testing done for the bad intention (to kill a baby girl or to kill unwanted child )
Is compeltely in human and only one thing can eradicate it is education . Baki theres nothing to debate on .u ppl have amazig talent and i see indians are very progressive . We can have difference of opinions . But we should b sane enough to appreciate each other and to learn good things from each other.Best of luck😊 . Oh haan last thing pakistani govt has also taken serious steps agaiant smoking . There are alot anti smoking campign . I think u were disturbed to see *zaroon 's smoking scene * i guess . But sometime i think hamaray drama makers reality dikhanay k leay zada hi real ho jatay hien . Bahar hal . There is si much good to learn from dramas that i forget the eechi beechi mistakes of them .😊

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