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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: nevah_mind


that is so true what you said about people who liked Humsafar and those who liked ZGH. Its really seems those who liked one don't like the other too much. 😆
I loved Humsafar much more. But I also think between the 2, Humsafar was better for me because of much better direction and tighter screenplay. ZGH, though I loved the story and the lead actors, it was all over the place for me from direction point of view, which in turn ruined the screenplay for me - whether it was glitches in the plot or just the timeline going haywire.


Humsafar for me only edges ZGH with direction and editing. ZGH tops everything else from story, chemistry, performances, background score, supporting cast etc. I see some people complaining about Zaroon's character..wonder how Asher will be received..because personally, I found Asher even more flawed. Although, Fawad did give a really good performance.

The USPs for both these shows are also different. I realized how those who prefer ZGH want that emotional quotient and that connect with characters on a personal level. The nuances are also very endearing. Humsafar for me didn't offer the above...but then again, each to their own.
Edited by starstruckk - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32
^Sorry to butt in..
I watched Humsafar after ZGH.

But iam 100% sure,evn if I had watched HS first I wudnt have liked it.

See,i was hopelessly in love with Fawad aftr ZGH but EVEN THAT cudnt make me like Humsafar😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: starstruckk


Humsafar for me only edges ZGH with direction and editing. ZGH tops everything else from story, chemistry, performances, background score, supporting cast etc. I see some people complaining about Zaroon's character..wonder how Asher will be received..because personally, I found Asher even more flawed. Although, Fawad did give a really good performance.

The USPs for both these shows are also different. I realized how those who prefer ZGH want that emotional quotient and that connect with characters on a personal level. The nuances are also very endearing. Humsafar for me didn't offer the above...but then again, each to their own.


I'm not complaining about Zaroon's character. I think his character is fine in the story, for the story. H has conservative thoughts and double standards to me, but that's a part of the story. My problem with ZGH is not the characters and their negatives or positives. it just that its so sorely lacking in direction, that the story, the plot is not tight. It shows up as flimsy and without consistency,
For e.g. If they had shown how or if Kashaf ever resolved her issues with her father. or Maybe how Zaroon played an important role of her being able to put her mistrust in men behind her, because she learned to love and trust him, it would have completed that aspect. I was really waiting for that issue to be addressed, and by the end it was just abandoned. It left a big question mark in my mind.
another part, in example was Zaroon getting upset with her for a particular reason, and they having a big fight over it, and then when they are talking it out, he says that was not the reason but something else, dilutes the intensity of those weeks that there was tension between them.
The story seemed to be a strong one, but it lost its focus on screen. There were too many gaping holes in the screen play. Too much time given to Murtuza and his wife and then they just disappear. These are just a few among various other parts that didn't complete the whole story for me.
Have you read the book? I would love to hear how it was in the book. The writer is supposed to be brilliant so I have a feeling the screenplay hasn't done justice to the book.

Ashar's character is also flawed. But the story was directed so well, that one didn't find glaring gaps in the screenplay. Ashar and Zaroon are human beings, and Fawad did full justice to the characters. But between both, the screenplay of Hamsafar was much tighter.

Please do let me know if you have any inputs on the original story of ZGH in the book. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
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@ nevah_mind: I don't think Kashaf resolving issues with her father was needed. I feel they showed that the father continued living his life, meanwhile Kashaf continued living her own. She never was too fond of her father and neither did he ever show much interest in her life..so why the need to show any conclusion? Kashaf's father wasn't even in her life to begin with..and it only made sense for her to keep it that way post her marriage. I don't think it would've ever been easy for Kashaf to have forgiven her father. There's just no excuse for abandoning your daughters because they are daughters and not sons. Kashaf was the eldest..she understood the severity of her circumstances more than anyone else..which is why she out of all the sisters always kept the most distance. So, I personally don't think any verdict was needed there.
Moreover, Zaroon DID help Kashaf tremendously. I don't want to spoil much for those who haven't watched the entire show..but the last monologue and scene of Kashaf's did illustrate that Kashaf grew as a person over the years..and it had a lot to do with Zaroon and how he dealt with her. Her perspective on life towards the end is very different than it was years before.

About the novel..the novel is solely diary entries. A lot of people didn't understand how this novel would get turned into a show because of that reason. The novel is like a compilation of just Kashaf and Zaroon's thoughts..all in the form of diary entries. It literally would say Sept 10, 1989..and then Kashaf's thoughts..later another date, with Zaroon's thoughts, and like that back and forth, Therefore, they had to add a lot of things into the show to make it into an actual show and not just monologues of Kashaf and Zaroon. There was hardly any emphasis on Kashaf's family like there is in the show. They added Hammad etc into the screenplay.

Also, in my opinion..and I know many who have read the novel may disagree..but I truthfully feel that the show is better than the novel. In the novel, Zaroon's way too hotheaded and way more chauvinistic. There was one bit in the novel where Zaroon burns one of Kashaf's saris because he merely doesn't like it..,just because Kashaf refuses to do anything about it he eventually burns it. In the show, Zaroon's shown to be actually very normal. You understand his dilemmas, concerns and his short temper to some extent if nothing else. Another thing that was different in the novel was how this past proposal becomes this big issue for Zaroon..meanwhile in the show though that does become a problem, but it's mainly because Kashaf finds out that Zaroon's still in touch with his ex-fiance. The thing that I did like in the novel was how in the end, despite their huge argument over one of Kashaf's past, rejected proposals..Zaroon goes to get her back..here, Kashaf goes back to him...but then again, in the novel I feel it would've only made sense for Zaroon to have done that considering he's the one who threw the tantrums, not Kashaf. Meanwhile, in the show Kashaf starts the huge argument.

The biggest problem I had with the book was the library scene. Zaroon in rage, slaps Kashaf. I just couldn't understand how someone like Kashaf would end up marrying someone like Zaroon if that were to happen. Umera Ahmed is a brilliant writer. I love her work..but I think this is one of the few instances where I think the show has more positives than the book. This was also her first novel if I'm not mistaken. She really wrote a better screenplay in my eyes. The only thing that perhaps could've been better and I agree with you on this..is the direction. I do agree with you when you say the direction could've been a little more tighter. I'm not so fond of Sultana Siddiqui, the director of ZGH. She's a little more concerned with TRPs than anything else..especially since she owns Humtv.

However, I give full credit to Umera Ahmed for ZGH's screenplay as well as Fawad and Sanam Saeed. There are a lot of shows that fail with even the slightest of loose direction..but here these 3 factors above really made the show whatever it is today. Umera Ahmed is a fantastic writer..she has her own way of story telling which is unique. She allows you to relate to her characters on a personal level which is why most of her characters are so endearing despite their flaws. I'm glad she revamped her screenplay because I feel the changes were definitely needed. Of course, Sanam Saeed and Fawad were brilliant to say the least. So it's one of those shows where you can overlook certain things because the leads and the story itself had so much to offer..and because you can connect to the characters on a personal level..all of that became its USP. Meanwhile, in Humsafar..you needed a lot more for the show to become a hit. There, factors such as direction, editing, music, good looking leads etc only helped the show tremendously.. or else the plot itself is nothing unheard of or not seen before by the audiences...but in ZGH, there was so much more to work with that even its basic flaws were overlooked.


Edited by starstruckk - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35
Loved reading the posts here regarding his shows especially about Humsafar and ZGH.
Well,I can't judge Humsafar as I haven't watched it but after watching ZGH ,I dont think I would ever be able to like any show as much as this.It's written so well,every character has a significance and apart from the story about the leads,the little nuances and situations in which the other characters are put into makes the show all the more different and realistic.About direction,I won't judge because I haven't watched HS but I still find the direction of ZGH fantastic.(not comparing to HS)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: starstruckk

May contain some SPOILERS.



@ nevah_mind: I don't think Kashaf resolving issues with her father was needed. I feel they showed that the father continued living his life, meanwhile Kashaf continued living her own. She never was too fond of her father and neither did he ever show much interest in her life..so why the need to show any conclusion? Kashaf's father wasn't even in her life to begin with..and it only made sense for her to keep it that way post her marriage. I don't think it would've ever been easy for Kashaf to have forgiven her father. There's just no excuse for abandoning your daughters because they are daughters and not sons. Kashaf was the eldest..she understood the severity of her circumstances more than anyone else..which is why she out of all the sisters always kept the most distance. So, I personally don't think any verdict was needed there.
Moreover, Zaroon DID help Kashaf tremendously. I don't want to spoil much for those who haven't watched the entire show..but the last monologue and scene of Kashaf's did illustrate that Kashaf grew as a person over the years..and it had a lot to do with Zaroon and how he dealt with her. Her perspective on life towards the end is very different than it was years before.

About the novel..the novel is solely diary entries. A lot of people didn't understand how this novel would get turned into a show because of that reason. The novel is like a compilation of just Kashaf and Zaroon's thoughts..all in the form of diary entries. It literally would say Sept 10, 1989..and then Kashaf's thoughts..later another date, with Zaroon's thoughts, and like that back and forth, Therefore, they had to add a lot of things into the show to make it into an actual show and not just monologues of Kashaf and Zaroon. There was hardly any emphasis on Kashaf's family like there is in the show. They added Hammad etc into the screenplay.

Also, in my opinion..and I know many who have read the novel may disagree..but I truthfully feel that the show is better than the novel. In the novel, Zaroon's way too hotheaded and way more chauvinistic. There was one bit in the novel where Zaroon burns one of Kashaf's saris because he merely doesn't like it..,just because Kashaf refuses to do anything about it he eventually burns it. In the show, Zaroon's shown to be actually very normal. You understand his dilemmas, concerns and his short temper to some extent if nothing else. Another thing that was different in the novel was how this past proposal becomes this big issue for Zaroon..meanwhile in the show though that does become a problem, but it's mainly because Kashaf finds out that Zaroon's still in touch with his ex-fiance. The thing that I did like in the novel was how in the end, despite their huge argument over one of Kashaf's past, rejected proposals..Zaroon goes to get her back..here, Kashaf goes back to him...but then again, in the novel I feel it would've only made sense for Zaroon to have done that considering he's the one who threw the tantrums, not Kashaf. Meanwhile, in the show Kashaf starts the huge argument.

The biggest problem I had with the book was the library scene. Zaroon in rage, slaps Kashaf. I just couldn't understand how someone like Kashaf would end up marrying someone like Zaroon if that were to happen. Umera Ahmed is a brilliant writer. I love her work..but I think this is one of the few instances where I think the show has more positives than the book. This was also her first novel if I'm not mistaken. She really wrote a better screenplay in my eyes. The only thing that perhaps could've been better and I agree with you on this..is the direction. I do agree with you when you say the direction could've been a little more tighter. I'm not so fond of Sultana Siddiqui, the director of ZGH. She's a little more concerned with TRPs than anything else..especially since she owns Humtv.

However, I give full credit to Umera Ahmed for ZGH's screenplay as well as Fawad and Sanam Saeed. There are a lot of shows that fail with even the slightest of loose direction..but here these 3 factors above really made the show whatever it is today. Umera Ahmed is a fantastic writer..she has her own way of story telling which is unique. She allows you to relate to her characters on a personal level which is why most of her characters are so endearing despite their flaws. I'm glad she revamped her screenplay because I feel the changes were definitely needed. Of course, Sanam Saeed and Fawad were brilliant to say the least. So it's one of those shows where you can overlook certain things because the leads and the story itself had so much to offer..and because you can connect to the characters on a personal level..all of that became its USP. Meanwhile, in Humsafar..you needed a lot more for the show to become a hit. There, factors such as direction, editing, music, good looking leads etc only helped the show tremendously.. or else the plot itself is nothing unheard of or not seen before by the audiences...but in ZGH, there was so much more to work with that even its basic flaws were overlooked.



That was very informative. Thanks so much for writing it all out in details.
To me the issue with kashaf's father was huge. Before this serial went on air, the director had a program to launch it, I think, and she specifically said it was about a girl child empowerment and the importance of her being educated and independent.
I guess I started watching the show with expecting this to be the main issue.
Now where kashaf's education is concerned, it was very clear, that she slogged to make it happen, get admission in the best place, earn that scholarship. She had no support from her father. He wanted her to get married, not study, and was vile to her saying her education would get her nowhere.
She fought it, and with the support of her mother went on to achieve the highest standards. Huge thing. Eventually, Murtuza also, on the other hand, realized that the son he wanted so badly, did nothing with all the support he got from his father.
Leading on to the other factor that made Kashaf mistrust men. Her father abandoning her mother for the sake of a son. Her father treating the daughters as a liability.
I thought it was beautifully ironic how the"unwanted burdens" emerged beautifully and the "wanted son" became a burden.
Kashaf never wanted to get married because of him. In her college days when she loathed Zaroon, one of the things she keeps saying is "all men are like that" This only stemmed from her experience with her father.
As a result, to me the fact that her relationship with her father was a big part of her nature and the story. It just abandoned along the course of the screenplay and issues between Kashaf and Zaroon, (which were not at all handled well in the direction), took more importance, left me with too many question marks.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Star_girl


Stop marathon watching Fawad's shows, Disha. We promised to watch Humsafar together on TV. Tripsy will join us as well. Don't cheat on us with youtube.
😆
But yes, like people are saying, i have heard that Humsafar is an average show compared to ZGH. But I will watch it for Fawad. But I don't think any show can match up to the sheer brilliance that is ZGH for me. Not anymore. Not to Fawad-Sanam chemistry either. They are plain beautiful together.


YES YES YES! I watched Behadd the other day, and it was WONDERFUL! FAWAD KHAN GETS ME THROBBING. ☺️
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais


YES YES YES! I watched Behadd the other day, and it was WONDERFUL! FAWAD KHAN GETS ME THROBBING. ☺️


guys,they postponed humsafar's airing I wont watch it online bcoz I promised you'll. 😭

Trips: Behadd! see?bola tha na! I loved that film!

Anne :storywise,apparaently ZGH is better. But Ashar is like the is like the ultimate romantic hero. so its like even better than Zaroon. (OH-MY-GOD! WE ARE GONNA DIE!)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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humsafar and dastan are amazing...have heard amazing stuff bout Akbar asghari...bw thanks for telling about KPKPP
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: The.Patthaaka.



guys,they postponed humsafar's airing I wont watch it online bcoz I promised you'll. 😭

Trips: Behadd! see?bola tha na! I loved that film!

Anne :storywise,apparaently ZGH is better. But Ashar is like the is like the ultimate romantic hero. so its like even better than Zaroon. (OH-MY-GOD! WE ARE GONNA DIE!)


😆 Okay, this is bad. Asher is even better than Zaroon? Ohgod. As if I am not obsessed enough already. I need to watch Behadd too. DO NOT WATCH HUMSAFAR ONLINE. You promised. Tripsy, you won't watch it either.
Let it come on TV. Patience is always better, trust me.
Edited by Star_girl - 11 years ago

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