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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aishu13

Brilliant post! This needs to be said! Honestly I truly hated Bejoy cause I never understood him, unpopular opinion but Ishwari I could understand but Bejoy, oh boy. Also it might just be me, but did BP strike as you a little bit odd today? The character who analyzes everything, who gave Meenu a chance to explain just jumped on the Abir hatred bandwangon. What he said was not wrong, but seemed odd especially knowing him, it seemed to be scripted like Abir basically told him to do all of this so that Mishti can have support.

But it may be just that he is upset as a father, I might just be looking into things too much.

There is a difference between Meanu hurting Mishti and Abir hurting Mishti. When Meanu insulted Mishti she was just a lady who hated her for rejecting her son(Temple Incident). Abir hurted Mishti when they are already engaged, about to get married and he claimed to love Mishti. Also let's not forget he promised to pamper Mishti and spoil her. Abir himself promised BP of taking care of his daughter, his most beloved asset, his princess. But what he did? Broke Mishti's heart, insulted her and threw her out of his life(we know the truth not he) in just 1 sec. What should a father or rather a doting father do in such a situation?
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: EtTuBrutus

So I know that the writers only care about TRP. Character consistency or originality are concepts alien to Indian TV. And now that they have messed up with beautiful show and ripped Abir-Mishti of their uniqueness with the makeover, can we at least expect some maturity and originality post leap? I mentioned it in the AT and I will say it again. A jealousy track with an almost shaadi with the third angle is simply the most immature way to solve a dispute. People have better things to do than jump into a second relationship or marriage right after a painful break up. And a couple should come back together because they want to. Because they maturely talked out their issues, redeemed themselves and decided to give it a second chance because they think it's worth it. Not because they can't see their partner with another person or they agree for the shaadi under parent's pressure and keep crying till the mandap where the other guy gets sick of the drama and runs away. Don't reduce Abir and Mishti to such immaturity.

Secondly am honestly afraid of what they'd do to BP. He is a wonderful father. And no father will want his daughter to go back to the guy who brutally broke her heart. At the same time, he is a sensitive guy who understands people around. Do not turn him into Bijoy part 2 (KRP fans will get the reference). Bijoy went from being a proud protective father to an insensitive and blind one because he couldn't see beyond his hatred for Dev. BP is better and deserves better. Let Mishti not forgive Abir because he broke her trust. Not because her BP disapproves and she doesn't want to go against him (because that totally divulges from the actual issues).

Thirdly, Divya Nidhi Sharma, please stop lifting dialogues from KRP. Those who haven't watched the show may not feel it but there is honestly a sense of Deja Vu at times. And please do not copy paste the heart break track from KRP. It made sense in that show for Dev and Sona as characters. Dev was an extreme person. Impulsive, crazily in love and often misunderstood because he never knew where to stop. Abir is different. Abir pulling those stunts will look terrible (unlike Dev). Shaheer is an amazing actor. Don't give him the same scenes over and over again. After all the mess, you have this wonderful opportunity to show a mature couple sorting out issues in a mature way and finding their way back to each other. But am not holding my breath because this is Indian TV. I know both Abir and Mishti will eventually forgive Meenu and pose for a happy family photograph while we are left scratching our heads 😆

P.S. And can you please get Abir to stop crying for a while? He has been crying for two months straight now and it needs to stop asap

Thank you for giving the necessary warning to the makers deepi , much much needed ... now I have a few points to make, didn't want to say but since this Dev thing was mentioned in between ... honestly I didn't like it ..

1. Today abir saying " i hope tumhe koi aisa ladka mile jiski kismat abir rajvansh jaisi na ho " this line I will take it as a hint , that vatsal's character will be everything that abir couldn't, the man who would keep mishti as his priority , the man who will not have a heart bigger than abir but wont me too emotional too , the man who will not succumb to pressures, this was the kind of man bade papa was looking for mishti from day 1 , it will not be an illogical fight between 2 characters , it will be a fight between 2 positive ideologies .. end game is mishbir we all know , but the confusion the dynamics will have it's own charm , I seriously hope they do this without nach baliye shaadi drama in a matured way

2. Regarding abir and dev , they both are as different as chalk and cheese ... there is no comparison, even their angst has shades , just because they have similar looks now doesn't make them similar , sorry to say this but dev was an emotional fool, abir isnt ...he clearly knows what he is doing... today his sentence that sorry partner aapne mujhe chand diya lekin mein nahi sambhal paaya clearly indicates he thinks so high of mishti and regrets losing her, he knows the entire truth as well whereas dev genuinely believed sona doesn't deserve the Mr. Dev Dixit 😆 he didn't knew his so called brother and mother had planned some papers against sona... dev ko bohot baad mein pata chala ke uske peeche kya game khela hai sabne milke..abir ko already pata hai kon kitne paani mein hai...and seeing the precap I think mishti also knows that abir was highly influenced.

3. BP is someone who has always been sensible in any situation, he has never taken biased decisions, abir was the one and only hope for him , for his daughter and seeing him say such stupid things triggered his emotions ... if you know BP he doesn't really hate anyone or keeps grudges , if that was the case then after mishku GD he would have never allowed kuhu and mishti to get married in the same family ... abir will have to try really hard to impress BP now... ab sirf badi badi batein karne se kaam nahi chalega ... also BP and abir dont have temp issues like bejoy and dev...bina baat ke sadte nahi hai

Ab third entry aane vali hai toh sirf garba toh nahi karega ...😆...


For your PS :

Abir's words

" Agar rone se mann halka hota ho toh ro lena chaiye, jaise khushi mein hasna normal hai vaise dukh mein rona normal hai , rona koi buri baat nahi hai "

Ab dukh aaya hai toh insaan royega hi ...garba nahi karega

if you have issues with abir crying, you should have issues with mishti also crying ...why only asking makers to make abir stop crying

..why should boys have all the fun haan 😆

Sorry If i sounded thoda rude 😛

Edited by Onyourface - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Onyourface

Thank you for giving the necessary warning to the makers deepi , much much needed ... now I have a few points to make, didn't want to say but since this Dev thing was mentioned in between ... honestly I didn't like it ..

1. Today abir saying " i hope tumhe koi aisa ladka mile jiski kismat abir rajvansh jaisi na ho " this line I will take it as a hint , that vatsal's character will be everything that abir couldn't, the man who would keep mishti as his priority , the man who will not have a heart bigger than abir but wont me too emotional too , the man who will not succumb to pressures, this was the kind of man bade papa was looking for mishti from day 1 , it will not be an illogical fight between 2 characters , it will be a fight between 2 positive ideologies .. end game is mishbir we all know , but the confusion the dynamics will have it's own charm , I seriously hope they do this without nach baliye shaadi drama in a matured way

2. Regarding abir and dev , they both are as different as chalk and cheese ... there is no comparison, even their angst has shades , just because they have similar looks now doesn't make them similar , sorry to say this but dev was an emotional fool, abir isnt ...he clearly knows what he is doing... today his sentence that sorry partner aapne mujhe chand diya lekin mein nahi sambhal paaya clearly indicates he thinks so high of mishti and regrets losing her, he knows the entire truth as well whereas dev genuinely believed sona doesn't deserve the Mr. Dev Dixit 😆 he didn't knew his so called brother and mother had planned some papers against sona... dev ko bohot baad mein pata chala ke uske peeche kya game khela hai sabne milke..abir ko already pata hai kon kitne paani mein hai...and seeing the precap I think mishti also knows that abir was highly influenced.

3. BP is someone who has always been sensible in any situation, he has never taken biased decisions, abir was the one and only hope for him , for his daughter and seeing him say such stupid things triggered his emotions ... if you know BP he doesn't really hate anyone or keeps grudges , if that was the case then after mishku GD he would have never allowed kuhu and mishti to get married in the same family ... abir will have to try really hard to impress BP now... ab sirf badi badi batein karne se kaam nahi chalega

Ab third entry aane vali hai toh sirf garba toh nahi karega ...😆...


Sorry If i sounded thoda rude 😛

No you weren't rude 😆 Let me try and answer your questions-

1. Today abir saying " i hope tumhe koi aisa ladka mile jiski kismat abir rajvansh jaisi na ho " this line I will take it as a hint , that vatsal's character will be everything that abir couldn't, the man who would keep mishti as his priority , the man who will not have a heart bigger than abir but wont me too emotional too , the man who will not succumb to pressures, this was the kind of man bade papa was looking for mishti from day 1 , it will not be an illogical fight between 2 characters , it will be a fight between 2 positive ideologies .. end game is mishbir we all know , but the confusion the dynamics will have it's own charm , I seriously hope they do this without nach baliye shaadi drama in a matured way

Well, IMO Abir was/is a great guy. Yes the writers really messed up in the last few episodes and what he did was brutal but apart from this one instance, Abir has always prioritized Mishti. I mean he is the guy who stood by her after the haldi stunt even when her own family didn't. One horrible mistake will not erase all his good deeds. If there is anyone who deserves a second chance at happiness, its him. And its easy to be a perfect person when you are not under pressure. To have a mother like Meenakshi, a father like Mehul, a brother like Kunal and a family like the RVs and still remain sane is a huge challenge. So I dont even think its fair to compare Abir with Vatsal's character and declare he is a better match because he is everything Abir wasn't to Mishti. And frankly, I dont even mind a love triangle provided its done right. Mishti agreeing to marry because BP is pushing her to it and then crying in every function with Vatsal's character finally backing off is not something I want to see. Agar dikhana bhi hai toh make it mature without involving shaadi and nach gaana.

2. Regarding abir and dev , they both are as different as chalk and cheese ... there is no comparison, even their angst has shades , just because they have similar looks now doesn't make them similar , sorry to say this but dev was an emotional fool, abir isnt ...he clearly knows what he is doing... today his sentence that sorry partner aapne mujhe chand diya lekin mein nahi sambhal paaya clearly indicates he thinks so high of mishti and regrets losing her, he knows the entire truth as well whereas dev genuinely believed sona doesn't deserve the Mr. Dev Dixit smiley36 he didn't knew his so called brother and mother had planned some papers against sona... dev ko bohot baad mein pata chala ke uske peeche kya game khela hai sabne milke..abir ko already pata hai kon kitne paani mein hai...and seeing the precap I think mishti also knows that abir was highly influenced.

Honestly, I completely disagree with your analysis of Dev. During the first break up, he impulsively took the decision because he saw his mom battling for life. During the second break up, the situation was completely different. His brother ousted Sona and her family from her house and made her believe Dev did it. And his mom had made him sign the prenup agreement without his knowledge and Sona again misunderstood Dev here. So when she came to confront Dev, he was drunk and both were emotionally vulnerable. He had taken the decision to live separately with her but she was not in the mood to listen to him (the situation was such). And then when she rejected him by throwing the mangal sutra on his face, he couldn't take it anymore. He felt that both his mom and his wife (the two people he loved the most) failed to understand him which led to his rebellious and cynical nature post leap. So nope, it wasn't just a misunderstanding. In fact, even later, when he finds out he has a daughter, not once does he think of separating her from her mom. So I honestly think its unfair to just call Dev Dixit an emotional fool who misunderstood his wife. No, it was a lot more than that. And yes Abir is a lot stronger and level headed than Dev because both their circumstances were completely different. Like I said, its impossible to compare two people who are in completely different circumstances and faced completely different struggles in life. Dev was a beautifully flawed character (sorry for my essay 😆)

3. BP is someone who has always been sensible in any situation, he has never taken biased decisions, abir was the one and only hope for him , for his daughter and seeing him say such stupid things triggered his emotions ... if you know BP he doesn't really hate anyone or keeps grudges , if that was the case then after mishku GD he would have never allowed kuhu and mishti to get married in the same family ... abir will have to try really hard to impress BP now... ab sirf badi badi batein karne se kaam nahi chalega

I honestly dont blame him for what he did today. I was only pointing out that the writers should not go overboard post leap and always maintain his sensitive and level-headed nature. Since this is ITV, they can tamper with any character for conflict and drama. And I dont want them to do it to BP.

Edited by EtTuBrutus - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: EtTuBrutus

No you weren't rude 😆 Let me try and answer your questions-

1. Today abir saying " i hope tumhe koi aisa ladka mile jiski kismat abir rajvansh jaisi na ho " this line I will take it as a hint , that vatsal's character will be everything that abir couldn't, the man who would keep mishti as his priority , the man who will not have a heart bigger than abir but wont me too emotional too , the man who will not succumb to pressures, this was the kind of man bade papa was looking for mishti from day 1 , it will not be an illogical fight between 2 characters , it will be a fight between 2 positive ideologies .. end game is mishbir we all know , but the confusion the dynamics will have it's own charm , I seriously hope they do this without nach baliye shaadi drama in a matured way

Well, IMO Abir was/is a great guy. Yes the writers really messed up in the last few episodes and what he did was brutal but apart from this one instance, Abir has always prioritized Mishti. I mean he is the guy who stood by her after the haldi stunt even when her own family didn't. One horrible mistake will not erase all his good deeds. If there is anyone who deserves a second chance at happiness, its him. And its easy to be a perfect person when you are not under pressure. To have a mother like Meenakshi, a father like Mehul, a brother like Kunal and a family like the RVs and still remain sane is a huge challenge. So I dont even think its fair to compare Abir with Vatsal's character and declare he is a better match because he is everything Abir wasn't to Mishti. And frankly, I dont even mind a love triangle proved its done right. Mishti agreeing because BP is pushing her to it and then crying in every function with Vatsal's character finally backing off is not something I want to see. Agar dikhana bhi hai toh make it mature without involving shaadi and nach gaana.

2. Regarding abir and dev , they both are as different as chalk and cheese ... there is no comparison, even their angst has shades , just because they have similar looks now doesn't make them similar , sorry to say this but dev was an emotional fool, abir isnt ...he clearly knows what he is doing... today his sentence that sorry partner aapne mujhe chand diya lekin mein nahi sambhal paaya clearly indicates he thinks so high of mishti and regrets losing her, he knows the entire truth as well whereas dev genuinely believed sona doesn't deserve the Mr. Dev Dixit smiley36 he didn't knew his so called brother and mother had planned some papers against sona... dev ko bohot baad mein pata chala ke uske peeche kya game khela hai sabne milke..abir ko already pata hai kon kitne paani mein hai...and seeing the precap I think mishti also knows that abir was highly influenced.

Honestly, I completely disagree with your analysis of Dev. During the first break up, he impulsively took the decision because he saw his mom battling for life. During the second break up, the situation was completely different. His brother ousted Sona and her family from her house and made her believe Dev did it. And his mom had made him sign the pre-nup agreement without his knowledge and Sona again misunderstood Dev here. So when she came to confront Dev, he was drunk and both were emotionally vulnerable. He had taken the decision to live separately with her but she was not in the mood to listen to him (the situation was such). And then when she rejected him by throwing the mangal sutra on her face, he couldn't take it. He felt that both his mom and his wife (the two people he loved the most) failed to understand him which led to his rebellious and cynical nature post leap. So nope, it wasn't just a misunderstanding. In fact, even later, when he finds out he has a daughter, not once does he think of separating her from her mom. So I honestly think its unfair to just call Dev Dixit an emotional fool who misunderstood his wife. No, it was a lot more than that. And yes Abir is a lot stronger and level headed than Dev because both their circumstances were completely different. Like I said, its impossible to compare two people who are in completely different circumstances and faced completely different struggles in life. Dev was a beautifully flawed character (sorry for my essay 😆)

3. BP is someone who has always been sensible in any situation, he has never taken biased decisions, abir was the one and only hope for him , for his daughter and seeing him say such stupid things triggered his emotions ... if you know BP he doesn't really hate anyone or keeps grudges , if that was the case then after mishku GD he would have never allowed kuhu and mishti to get married in the same family ... abir will have to try really hard to impress BP now... ab sirf badi badi batein karne se kaam nahi chalega

I honestly dont blame him for what he did today. I was only pointing out that the writers should not go overboard post leap and always maintain his sensitive and level-headed nature. Since this is ITV, they can tamper with any character for conflict and drama. And I dont want them to do it to BP.

I have added something for your ps too ...😆

I am extremely sorry If i sounded rude haan ..

1. I am not saying that vatsal's character would be above abir....no character can be above abir...impossible it's just the flaws that abir has ...he wont have those set of of flaws.. he will have different set of flaws ... aisa kuch... yes I also want that without shaadi ...I so hate this nach baliye thing myself... something should trigger their feelings not shaadi 👍🏼

2. This is what I meant yaar ... as I said dev and abir are as different as chalk and cheese ...and circumstances are different so no comparison at all .. that's okay we can have different views on characters ... I still consider him an emotional fool only .. that's okay we can have different views... I dont think high of dev btw..it hurts 😆

3. I dont think so BP is bejoy Bose...from no angle except that both have daughters...that's it...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Onyourface

I have added something for your ps too ...😆

I am extremely sorry If i sounded rude haan ..

1. I am not saying that vatsal's character would be above abir....no character can be above abir...impossible it's just the flaws that abir has ...he wont have those set of of flaws.. he will have different set of flaws ... aisa kuch... yes I also want that without shaadi ...I so hate this nach baliye thing myself... something should trigger their feelings not shaadi 👍🏼

2. This is what I meant yaar ... as I said dev and abir are as different as chalk and cheese ...and circumstances are different so no comparison at all .. that's okay we can have different views on characters ... I still consider him an emotional fool only .. that's okay we can have different views... I dont think high of dev btw..it hurts 😆

3. I dont think so BP is bejoy Bose...from no angle except that both have daughters...that's it...

Haha regarding your PS, Abir cries more than Mishti man. In fact, in the past 2 months, he has only been crying. Which is why I want them to stop 😆

1. Yes please no shaadi and nach gaana please. Am sick of it right now. Kunal has had two, Mishti has had two, Kekti has had one, Kuhu has had one and Abir has had one. Ab bas 😆

2. Na its alright. Its a matter of perspective. Dev was awesome IMO. I know he often gets called a momma's boy and an emotional fool but he had so many amazing layers to his character and I'd rate it as Shaheer's best performance till date. Of course we can disagree 😆

3. I didn't say BP is Bijoy. In fact am saying he is not so dont turn him into one post leap. In fact even Bijoy was a great father before break up. But post that, they made him blind and insensitive and he treated Dev terribly at several points (though Dev did mess up quite a few times). I just dont want them to do that to BP. Maybe I wasn't clear 😆

P.S. Dont say sorry man. You were not rude at all :)

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: EtTuBrutus

Haha regarding your PS, Abir cries more than Mishti man. In fact, in the past 2 months, he has only been crying. Which is why I want them to stop 😆

1. Yes please no shaadi and nach gaana please. Am sick of it right now. Kunal has had two, Mishti has had two, Kekti has had one, Kuhu has had one and Abir has had one. Ab bas 😆

2. Na its alright. Its a matter of perspective. Dev was awesome IMO. I know he often gets called a momma's boy and an emotional fool but he had so many amazing layers to his character and I'd rate it as Shaheer's best performance till date. Of course we can disagree 😆

3. I didn't say BP is Bijoy. In fact am saying he is not so dont turn him into one post leap. In fact even Bijoy was a great father before break up. But post that, they made him blind and insensitive and he treated Dev terribly at several points (though Dev did mess up quite a few times). I just dont want them to do that to BP. Maybe I wasn't clear 😆

P.S. Dont say sorry man. You were not rude at all :)

Now no more tears ...pushpa😆😆

Chalo hoping for the best for mishbir 2.0


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