Why does IVF surrogacy not be done through stranger? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Indira1211

there’s countries in Europe and even the USA …where it can be done for profit. I think even Canada allows surrogacy for profit. I’m sure I read that on Google.. But on the other hand.. not only India..there’s many other countries where surrogacy can’t be done for profit. So the biological parents don’t pay the surrogate..but they pay for her medical expenses and also if she’s lost income due to the pregnancy..they compensate her for that..

Yeah.. I'm glad India got it right w.r.t to commercial surrogacy laws..

Originally posted by: Swathi.A

Again why are u shaming people for their choices when other person is ready as well.. Some people don't even take money but do it out of love for others.. How it is wrong?

Ready due to what reason....most of these women are from financially weaker sections and do such things out of dire need and helplessness. Would they have agreed to be a surrogate if they had an alternative way.....never , that pretty much sums up why it's wrong.

Do some research first.

Originally posted by: ThukkadRajaShah

Ready due to what reason....most of these women are from financially weaker sections and do such things out of dire need and helplessness. Would they have agreed to be a surrogate if they had an alternative way.....never , that pretty much sums up why it's wrong.

Do some research first.

You need to learn first..simple Google search will do.. Close families can become surrogates.. My own close family member have become surrogates for their cousins and they are f.rich they are not in need for any allowance or insurance yet do it for family.. Only commercially being done is wrong.. Keep your preaching to yourself

Originally posted by: Swathi.A

You need to learn first..simple Google search will do.. Close families can become surrogates.. My own close family member have become surrogates for their cousins and they are f.rich they are not in need for any allowance or insurance yet do it for family.. Only commercially being done is wrong.. Keep your preaching to yourself

Morals and laws isn't about what one family deems to be right. Here it's about the whole country and world. Women's bodies ARE NOT commodities.

There's no law in India protecting miserable surrogate mothers when there would appear problems with their health during the pregnancy or after the birth of child. Some contracts even prevent the surrogate from aborting the foetus. It's mostly the financial weaker sections women who are the major target , so keep your delusional viewpoint to yourself.

Originally posted by: Indira1211

there’s countries in Europe and even the USA …where it can be done for profit. I think even Canada allows surrogacy for profit. I’m sure I read that on Google.. But on the other hand.. not only India..there’s many other countries where surrogacy can’t be done for profit. So the biological parents don’t pay the surrogate..but they pay for her medical expenses and also if she’s lost income due to the pregnancy..they compensate her for that..

It's not that easy either, you go through so much, medical, mental examinations. Then the background check is so intrusive and the state and federal government are involve. A person can't run it in their homes, these companies are mostly private, and the one's that aren't are hospital and clinics. A lot of celebrities from India and around world come here for IVF treat. The statics here for first embryo transfer is 41 % young or over 35, and most IVF package can cost you $12-$20,000 dollars, some take out loans or bankrupt for the desire of having biological children oppose to adoption which also not easy either, just way less expensive

Originally posted by: ThukkadRajaShah

Morals and laws isn't about what one family deems to be right. Here it's about the whole country and world. Women's bodies ARE NOT commodities.

There's no law in India protecting miserable surrogate mothers when there would appear problems with their health during the pregnancy or after the birth of child. Some contracts even prevent the surrogate from aborting the foetus. It's mostly the financial weaker sections women who are the major target , so keep your delusional viewpoint to yourself.

plus normally IVF pregnancies are twin pregnancy so the risk for mother is high..the surrogate will lose nearly 1 1/2 years of her life ..what if there is risk and what about her kids ..that's why many incl me feel non commercial pregnancy is tough. When u carry a child na whether u agree or not u build a bond and if it's for a fam mem it will be around you. It's tough to disconnect.

Again this is my personal opinion. And others can have diff one

Originally posted by: ThukkadRajaShah

Morals and laws isn't about what one family deems to be right. Here it's about the whole country and world. Women's bodies ARE NOT commodities.

There's no law in India protecting miserable surrogate mothers when there would appear problems with their health during the pregnancy or after the birth of child. Some contracts even prevent the surrogate from aborting the foetus. It's mostly the financial weaker sections women who are the major target , so keep your delusional viewpoint to yourself.

Originally posted by: Ambajee

Yes, notorious agencies have been taking advantage of the financial weaker women before, but how to do we work on not having hapless women getting trapped into this now. Surrogacy is an individual choice, as long as legal and ethical practices are followed. We shouldn’t be shaming couples or women for wanting to have a baby. Adoption is neither easy nor accessible in most countries that easily. Ppl go through years of being on waitlist. It’s easy to throw a word adoption. But will the people commit to remaining childless or adoption once married and not try for biological child?

Green : It's absolutely inevitable to prevent poor section women to not get exploited from this unethical practice because at the end of the day surrogacy's philosophy itself is of an exploitative nature. Like as I said before no woman will do such thing for money if she had an alternative. Perceiving women as incubators to carry a baby and ultimately separating the baby, adding to it the surrogate has no right on the baby and her body. As sick as it sounds.

Pink : Howcome it's an individual practice if clearly a third person is involved who in future will have absolutely no rights on the baby she nurtured with her blood !

Where exactly are the EtHIcs !!!!!

Clearly the surrogate's rights on her own body and the very right to abort will be SEIZED. The surrogate won't be able to keep the baby with herself if she feels that she can't part with it , it will be inhumanely snatched via an insensitive contract.

Blue : Such couples need to be shamed left and right. It's absolutely their selfishness to make a third person go through extreme pain and risk of life for the sake of their primal urge and obsession to have their own bloodline.

Better start from the place where there is no such thing as a right to have a child. Children are not 'possessions.' After a certain limit everything has to be given up. It’s fine till ivf where the grown ass women is herself at risk because at the end she will reap the fruit of her labour , but it's absolutely callous to involve a third person to go through a thing as messy as pregnancy.

Heck even 17-18 year olds are way more mature nowadays. They adjust and come to terms if they are not able to get into a premier institute.

People come to terms when things don’t go their way , because everything can't be according to person's desires. Not drawing a line on 'raw emotions' leads to unethical acts in an attempt to achieve the otherwise out of reach desire.

It's fine till ivf where the host ultimately will have every right on herself and baby during and after the tedious journey of pregnancy. Going beyond that and to involve a third person is absolutely unethical. Rakshas hote hain woh log jo khud ki zid ke aage kuch dekhte nahi.

Originally posted by: ThukkadRajaShah

Green : It's absolutely inevitable to prevent poor section women to not get exploited from this unethical practice because at the end of the day surrogacy's philosophy itself is of an exploitative nature. Like as I said before no woman will do such thing for money if she had an alternative. Perceiving women as incubators to carry a baby and ultimately separating the baby, adding to it the surrogate has no right on the baby and her body. As sick as it sounds.

Pink : Howcome it's an individual practice if clearly a third person is involved who in future will have absolutely no rights on the baby she nurtured with her blood !

Where exactly are the EtHIcs !!!!!

Clearly the surrogate's rights on her own body and the very right to abort will be SEIZED. The surrogate won't be able to keep the baby with herself if she feels that she can't part with it , it will be inhumanely snatched via an insensitive contract.

Blue : Such couples need to be shamed left and right. It's absolutely their selfishness to make a third person go through extreme pain and risk of life for the sake of their primal urge and obsession to have their own bloodline.

Better start from the place where there is no such thing as a right to have a child. Children are not 'possessions.' After a certain limit everything has to be given up. It’s fine till ivf where the grown ass women is herself at risk because at the end she will reap the fruit of her labour , but it's absolutely callous to involve a third person to go through a thing as messy as pregnancy.