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Posted: 2 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: SAOkr

both the situations were of taking risks in order to save someone . but in case of saving girls the risk was immeasurable can you expect a preg lady to fight a goon or the neil who is supposed to protect ak to fight goon or to save ak .

thats why this time ak was blamed because it was pure foolishness because she not even gambled her own life but the neils life too .

and inorder to save someone you need to atleast be able to save yourself . can you expect a preg lady to fight goons to save someone.

even in battlefield those who are not trained are restrained or advised to stop making rash descision because it will put their complete unit in danger in order to save that one person who want to show courage same has happened with neil and babies in order to stop ak and save babies as well as girls he too gambled his life it could have been stopped by ak but ak didnt consider stopping him or herself resulting loss of lives , so why do we expect people to praise her for her rash descion which has led to deaths.

again i am saying . "ak was not blamed for saving girls but for taking risk of putting her, babies and neils life in danger" .

can you expect any family to stay calm when a preg lady takes such a rash descision.

and its not abhis life is more imp than girls or not is because if you want to save someone and family members are also included.


the least you could do is atleast be able to save yourself and ensure safety of family members and then try to save others ,

for me thats hypocricy .

if you cant even save or ensure safety of your own family or even stop and rethink your decision then whats the point of saving others .

because for me regret of not being able to save a loved one will be thousand times more than regret of not saving girls . especially when i have tried every other way to save those girls.

in this context...saving oneself is the most important...tab to akshu ka fire se abhi ko save karna was foolishness and she should have been punished.....

koi bhi kisi ko kyun save kare? y bother about others...selfish bano..and when u r in danger y should others help u?

accident to kahin bhi ho sakta hai...akshu could have lost her life in the fire too.....

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Posted: 2 years ago
#42

samandar ke bawandar mein he was with a murderer...iss liye aisa dance tha...😂

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Posted: 2 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: India_TV

in this context...saving oneself is the most important...tab to akshu ka fire se abhi ko save karna was foolishness and she should have been punished.....

koi bhi kisi ko kyun save kare? y bother about others...selfish bano..and when u r in danger y should others help u?

accident to kahin bhi ho sakta hai...akshu could have lost her life in the fire too.....

ok if you have not read my previous post so atleast pls try to read this one as i am not sarcastic type of person. that you taunt me with your sarcasm.

so.

the most basic and professional thing that ,firefighters, med person ells , army officers are taught first is stay calm in field and first try to save yourself and then continue your task of saving others, which in case is* ( stopping fire in case of arson, treating injured persons in case of emergency accidents, and killing enemies in case of armies).

now consider in all this case consider if a firefighter goes into an house afflicted with arson without ample oxygen and dont wait till oxygen is resupplied, or if a doctor goes into a collapsing building to save a patient without accesing situation , when backup is arriving ,

and an army official goes on to save a fellow army men without ample ammo ) what would happen.

in first case in process of saving house members from fire oxygen supply of that firefighter gets exhausted and he too will collapse , resulting in other firefighters too to be burdened with saving him too. when he could have waited for oxygen tank resupply and then went , so he could save himself and others.

in second when doctor goes into collapsing building without considering risk one of towers falls on to him and he is severly injured now consider a doctor who is supposed to save is injured will burden more people around them when situation could have been avoided and he could have waited for backup and then went for injured though it may be late but he could have saved max patients, without burdening others.

in third case the man who went without sufficient ammo to save a person his ammo is exhausted in mid battlefield and the entire unit now had to cover for them to save two men instead of one resulting several injuries .

the same is case here ak is not been critisized to save others but to go there in a condition like that of preg where she could not even save herself and resulting neil too involved because he not only is concerned with ak and babies but girls too .

thats why its said to first being able to save yourself when considering saving others. because if you are not able to save yourself then you will become burden on others and put their lives in danger too.

and its not selfish to being ascessing situatation to be able to save yourself and then others because in rescue courage is not the only factor you need to save max lives any lives lost because of your recklessness is not termed as courage but foolishness thats why she is critisized.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#44

If u feel that way, I m sorry. But i m defo not taunting u....But u seem to b writing longs posts that r repetitive....

Akshu had not taken a firefighting course before jumping into fire to save abhi....abhi has known about her selflessness nature...he was attracted to this...{dhanya scene)...akshu could have lost her life then too.....

At the time of fire or girls case, it was an emergency situation..where v make decisions at the spur of the moment...and akshu made het decsion and neil made his....

the act of saving abhi was rewarded but of saving the girls was punished in the worst possible way....

agar maan bhi len abhi was in anger...bande ki buddhi bhrasth thi uss waqt...But 6-7 years and this mamma beta have not realized.....that akshu is not a murderer and she was not at fault.....

accidents happen.....when u r not saving people, they can happen...when akshu was saving abhi from fire, it cpuld have happened....when neil and akshu were saving gorls...it happened....

the simple poitnt is...if saving abhi from fire was rewarded...saving girls should defo not be punished....Akshu cannot be tagged as a murderer....By the same famiily...the treatment is totally different......which is obvious...

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Posted: 2 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: India_TV

If u feel that way, I m sorry. But i m defo not taunting u....But u seem to b writing longs posts that r repetitive....

Akshu had not taken a firefighting course before jumping into fire to save abhi....abhi has known about her selflessness nature...he was attracted to this...{dhanya scene)...akshu could have lost her life then too.....

At the time of fire or girls case, it was an emergency situation..where v make decisions at the spur of the moment...and akshu made het decsion and neil made his....

the act of saving abhi was rewarded but of saving the girls was punished in the worst possible way....

agar maan bhi len abhi was in anger...bande ki buddhi bhrasth thi uss waqt...But 6-7 years and this mamma beta have not realized.....that akshu is not a murderer and she was not at fault.....

accidents happen.....when u r not saving people, they can happen...when akshu was saving abhi from fire, it cpuld have happened....when neil and akshu were saving gorls...it happened....

the simple poitnt is...if saving abhi from fire was rewarded...saving girls should defo not be punished....Akshu cannot be tagged as a murderer....By the same famiily...the treatment is totally different......which is obvious...

again you are comparing the two diff scenario , and again i will say the same thing.

ak was not blamed for saving girls but the condition in which she went there i.e being pregnant and knowing fully well she would not be able to handle goons. resulting in neil getting involved too , in

first case ak was alone she could have saved abhi with comparitvely less danger also risk factor was low ,

but can you really expect a preg lady to fight goons with neil when risk is so high and family to remain silent when obviously they had informed police and if it was spur of movement it would be natural instinct to first ensure safety of children then neil then others isnt it normal for for every mother to first ensure safety of her children or for a sister to ensure safety of her brother before anyone else then try ways to save others .my point was same ak had not ensured that safety quotient and jumped into situation recklessly thats why she is blamed for her recklessness, .

not for saving girls.

Edited by SAOkr - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: SAOkr

again you are comparing the two diff scenario , and again i will say the same thing.

ak was not blamed for saving girls but the condition in which she went there i.e being pregnant and knowing fully well she would not be able to handle goons. resulting in neil getting involved too , in

first case ak was alone she could have saved abhi with comparitvely less danger also risk factor was low ,

but can you really expect a preg lady to fight goons with neil when risk is so high and family to remain silent when obviously they had informed police and if it was spur of movement it would be natural instinct to first ensure safety of children then neil then others isnt it normal for for every mother to first ensure safety of her children or for a sister to ensure safety of her brother before anyone else then try ways to save others .my point was same ak had not ensured that safety quotient and jumped into situation recklessly thats why she is blamed for her recklessness, .

not for saving girls.

she should have blamed for her recklessness if she had gone for a concert r any such thing......she cannot be termed as a murderer and blamed for this in the manner in which she was....she did not deliberately do it...neither she forced neil for it...she decided it at that moment and neil decided for himself....

If saving abhi was rewarded, saving girls cannot be termed as a murder...

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: India_TV

she should have blamed for her recklessness if she had gone for a concert r any such thing......she cannot be termed as a murderer and blamed for this in the manner in which she was....she did not deliberately do it...neither she forced neil for it...she decided it at that moment and neil decided for himself....

If saving abhi was rewarded, saving girls cannot be termed as a murder...

so you are saying a preg lady went ahead to fight goons with two babies and niel is not reckless ??. and its not first time to be considered a situational mistake.

yes neil went there on his own accord but he went there so that akshu should not have to go there to save girls , so if ak has stopped him out of concern as a brother and decided to find a way to save girls without risking either lives that would have been praiseworthy , but here because of her recklessness neil had no other way but to go out to stop ak from leaving car .

just like i am saying it was not manipulation , i am also saying it shows lack of concern of ak for neils life for not stopping him.

which was pointed out by family .

also i mentioned it clearly abhis divorce and throwing things was abusive along with sirat dialogue and cannot be forgiven but his rest of q about her being reckless was genuine thats what i believe

Edited by SAOkr - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: India_TV

she should have blamed for her recklessness if she had gone for a concert r any such thing......she cannot be termed as a murderer and blamed for this in the manner in which she was....she did not deliberately do it...neither she forced neil for it...she decided it at that moment and neil decided for himself....

If saving abhi was rewarded, saving girls cannot be termed as a murder...


Branding Akshara as a "murderer" is indeed an extreme reaction and, in my view, unfair. She didn't deliberately put herself or Neil in harm's way. It was a spur-of-the-moment decision, driven by a desperate need to save innocent lives. It's not as if she was being reckless for frivolous reasons; she was responding to an emergency.

That said, the consequences of her actions were tragic. Neil lost his life, and she miscarried one of her twins. These are serious, heartrending outcomes. But they were unintended, tragic side effects of a well-meaning action, not the results of a calculated, malicious act. So, to label her as a "murderer" seems harsh and unjust.

As for saving Abhimanyu and being rewarded for it, it's a different context. The situations aren't exactly comparable. Both involved danger, yes, but the circumstances, the risks involved, and the outcomes were vastly different. It's unfortunate that in one instance her bravery was applauded, while in the other, it led to blame and scorn. But it's crucial to remember that the intent in both instances was the same to save lives.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: SAOkr

so you are saying a preg lady went ahead to fight goons with two babies and niel is not reckless ??. and its not first time to be considered a situational mistake.

yes neil went there on his own accord but he went there so that akshu should not have to go there to save girls , so if ak has stopped him out of concern as a brother and decided to find a way to save girls without risking either lives that would have been praiseworthy , but here because of her recklessness neil had no other way but to go out to stop ak from leaving car .

just like i am saying it was not manipulation , i am also saying it shows lack of concern of ak for neils life for not stopping him.

which was pointed out by family .

also i mentioned it clearly abhis divorce and throwing things was abusive along with sirat dialogue and cannot be forgiven but his rest of q about her being reckless was genuine thats what i believe

so his terming akshu a murderer was correct...but not for seerat.....

I can add here...abhi knew akshu had a difficlut pregnancy...he should have been with her.....he was careless in leaving akshu in the house and going for surgery...and then not taking her calls when she was having cramps and trying t et in touch with him...

manjari should not have gone to the temple as akshu was having a difficlut pregnancy and abhi was also out....

inn sab ke paas sochne ka time tha...they should have thought and not left her alone...these can be considered as murderers...

i can add...agar manjari akshu ko push na karti...and agar abhi akshu ko ita menytal trauma na deta..and agar yeh log akshu ko sahi waqt per mediacl care dete, to abhir ka twin bi zinda hota....they have defo murdered abhir ka twin....

akshu was in severe pain...and so she went out....and got the calll...she tried what she could and then had no time to think and did what she thpught wwas correct..neil made a decision for himself....akshu was not responsible.....

if saving abhi from fire was rewarded, akhu and neil's act of sving girls cannt make akshu a murderer....

this was an accident......

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Couchcritic


Branding Akshara as a "murderer" is indeed an extreme reaction and, in my view, unfair. She didn't deliberately put herself or Neil in harm's way. It was a spur-of-the-moment decision, driven by a desperate need to save innocent lives. It's not as if she was being reckless for frivolous reasons; she was responding to an emergency.

That said, the consequences of her actions were tragic. Neil lost his life, and she miscarried one of her twins. These are serious, heartrending outcomes. But they were unintended, tragic side effects of a well-meaning action, not the results of a calculated, malicious act. So, to label her as a "murderer" seems harsh and unjust.

As for saving Abhimanyu and being rewarded for it, it's a different context. The situations aren't exactly comparable. Both involved danger, yes, but the circumstances, the risks involved, and the outcomes were vastly different. It's unfortunate that in one instance her bravery was applauded, while in the other, it led to blame and scorn. But it's crucial to remember that the intent in both instances was the same to save lives.

agree....

and situations are rarely same...they can be similar...and the two situations were similar as both involved risking life to save life.....

but the reward/punishment were such drastically different....and that too by the same family!!!

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