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I hate how rushed this is i love it ...its so refreshing from the constant crying and shit but like naira is in love wid him after 1 episode it makes me worry this track will end soon.

Dow kartik is such a controlling sob like what he is doing is not sweet nor kind its border line creepy like take out the fact he is handsome and momo plays him

He is literally inserting himself/staging himself meeting naira so nobody takes advantage of her...

How controlling is that😆 like we all can call naksh names coz we hate these suwarna types but kartik is doing the same thing

How can he lie to her after his lies caused so much pain

He has no conscious

or did it last until he got a badly construed idea from a temple again ud think he would be weary of temples at this point😆

That aside, i am enjoying it immensely like i adore kaira u can show me them falling in love 3 million times

and kartik as controlling as possible😆 i dont mind
He doesnt want her mad at him
He doesnt want her with another dude
(If he did not think about this dance idea does he think naksh wouldnt have done the same shit as him or does he think only he as naira husband is capable of such ideas and protecting her like a dog with a bone)
Naira's insta love for him is very wishy washy if she cnt rem her whole life, how is she suddenly only rem him it makes no sense...
She should not recognize him😆 i feel at all and associate things related to him to someone else just so he could go bat shit crazy possessive on her ass

Kartik is naira's guardian i think that we should establish that with asshole naksh😆 how did he take her to doc without kartik paying for it with naira being on his medical aid?
as her husband naksh has no right to take her i will repeat no right

I dont understand why kartik is hiding himself and then not even feeling three percent guilty for stealing his nephew lying his sis and bro in laws kid died and thinking about valentines day


😆 again not that i mind seeing kaira happy m just thinking logically they made him so selfish and only about himself
to me he is seeing really / making sure naira doesnt end up with another guy

singhania grannys think every crime is forgivable, that kartik does😆 coz his naira's husband wow

And keerti is mission please kick naira out back to kartik so that i can play with my baby ONLY

dadi is very bored without naira around to bully since she asked for singhanias again to send naira back so she could cook up some poojas to make naira rem

Naksh is logically correct but then he also falls into a desert as a speck against kaira fans as our mortal enemy😆
Like he needs a life honestly what does he do i also never see him working he is always at home, like go to krishna naksh how on earth do u have time to drive naira around all the time??

Why doesnt doc vishal even phone and ask once why is naira's husband not with her?



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Posted: 6 years ago
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Few things I have been observing.
1. There is no point in trying to see sense in how other characters' growth and behaviours. The show is written by shoddy writers who don't flesh out any other characters. Yes, they are supporting casts, I agree, but none of these characters has a proper consistent identity. They are just pawns and puppets which can be stretched and pulled to any direction to justify Kaira.

Eg: Swarna was the best mother in law Naira could ask for. But just to keep playing their Kaira separation track due to the lack of creativity of writers, they made her evil.
Naksh was a good brother, but then he suddenly became jealous during the above-mentioned separation track of Kaira and now overly concerned about Naira. Because right now they need a character who is trying to keep the eternal lovers away from each other. Duh!

So, I don't think it's fair to blame these characters which are poorly written, but happily blame how stupid the writers have become because they are so obsessed about Kaira.

2. I don't understand how it is romantic/cool/mature to keep showing these separation tracks. I mean if you are getting separated way too many times, it is a sign that you shouldn't be together and not 'you are supposed to be with each other'. I am sure that is what any normal sensible person infer. But this is a show and it runs on mindless drama.

3. The only two characters that have more work done on them by the writers after the story took off from Naitik- Akshara is Naira - Kartik. And according to me, Naira has been far most the most consistent character. They try to show her as the mature problem solver. True, at times, it goes over the board but her intentions were always kind of morally justifiable.
Coming to Kartik, I know a lot of you are not going to like this, but anyway. Kartik is immature and stubborn. He is literally a man child. After putting so much effort into a character, this is what they could bring out. In the beginning, there was so much potential. But then they made him really obsessed with Naira, that too a very unhealthy obsession. One's relationship with their partner is only one aspect of their life, I agree it's a major one but this is a bit too much. His jealousy feels cute on screen but it's toxic. Imagine living with someone like that! Who controls you and manipulates you. (What was that jhoru ke gulaam scene? I am upset with you because you kept yourself away from me? Seriously?). Someone before also mentioned, there is no ambition in him. He doesn't want to make anything out of his life. Just spent his family's hard earned money and this comes across as really off-putting.

4. And I feel, he never really thinks about Naira. He is so focused on his own emotions, his feelings. Throwing her out of the house or fighting with her and blaming her for every small thing, the baby swap track. Then follows a lot of mopey crying scene and every fans' heart melts for him. And moreover, he is never really shown pining over his mistakes or feeling guilty and is never given a chance to redeem himself, but is just whitewashed over and over. And this is one of the characters, they have put so much work on, then you can only imagine how inconsistent and insensible the supporting casts would come across as.

5. Naira's instant love for him - I feel really bad about this. There is a lot of information asymmetry here. I mean Naira knows nothing about him or herself for that matter. But Kartik knows her inside out. So, it is easy to stage himself in such positions to make Naira fall I love with him. If Naira is falling in love with him and not anyone else, it's only because he is taking advantage of this information asymmetry and manipulating her. It would have made it more acceptable if he opened up to her about the truth or kept himself away. Definitely lying and manipulating her emotions is not cool. When she said 'In the first meeting itself, how can someone be so good, I was cringing because it was him staging it.

6. And most importantly, I am extremely pained and frustrated with both Naksh and Kartik. Both of them behave like Naira is their property. For crying out loud, she is a human being who has her own thoughts and feelings. True, that she lost her memory, she didn't lose the ability to decide for herself. Let her live peacefully for some time and she will be able to collect some facts and feelings from her surroundings and people and let her make the decisions for herself. Just stop treating her like a toddler that you are fighting with each other for.



I know this is a long and probably boring post. But I really wanted to post this here somewhere. Thanks. 😃
Edited by Ekahriz - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ekahriz

Few things I have been observing.

1. There is no point in trying to see sense in how other characters' growth and behaviours. The show is written by shoddy writers who don't flesh out any other characters. Yes, they are supporting casts, I agree, but none of these characters has a proper consistent identity. They are just pawns and puppets which can be stretched and pulled to any direction to justify Kaira.

Eg: Swarna was the best mother in law Naira could ask for. But just to keep playing their Kaira separation track due to the lack of creativity of writers, they made her evil.
Naksh was a good brother, but then he suddenly became jealous during the above-mentioned separation track of Kaira and now overly concerned about Naira. Because right now they need a character who is trying to keep the eternal lovers away from each other. Duh!

So, I don't think it's fair to blame these characters which are poorly written, but happily blame how stupid the writers have become because they are so obsessed about Kaira.

2. I don't understand how it is romantic/cool/mature to keep showing these separation tracks. I mean if you are getting separated way too many times, it is a sign that you shouldn't be together and not 'you are supposed to be with each other'. I am sure that is what any normal sensible person infer. But this is a show and it runs on mindless drama.

3. The only two characters that have more work done on them by the writers after the story took off from Naitik- Akshara is Naira - Kartik. And according to me, Naira has been far most the most consistent character. They try to show her as the mature problem solver. True, at times, it goes over the board but her intentions were always kind of morally justifiable.
Coming to Kartik, I know a lot of you are not going to like this, but anyway. Kartik is immature and stubborn. He is literally a man child. After putting so much effort into a character, this is what they could bring out. In the beginning, there was so much potential. But then they made him really obsessed with Naira, that too a very unhealthy obsession. One's relationship with their partner is only one aspect of their life, I agree it's a major one but this is a bit too much. His jealousy feels cute on screen but it's toxic. Imagine living with someone like that! Who controls you and manipulates you. (What was that jhoru kegulaam scene? I am upset with you because you kept yourself away from me? Seriously?). Someone before also mentioned, there is no ambition in him. He doesn't want to make anything out of his life. Just spent his family's hard earned money and this comes across as really off-putting.

4. And I feel, he never really thinks about Naira. He is so focused on his own emotions, his feelings. Throwing her out of the house or fighting with her and blaming her for every small thing, the baby swap track. Then follows a lot of mopey crying scene and every fans' heart melts for him. And moreover, he is never really shown pining over his mistakes or feeling guilty and is never given a chance to redeem himself, but is just whitewashed over and over. And this is one of the characters, they have put so much work on, then you can only imagine how inconsistent and insensible the supporting casts would come across as.

5. Naira's instant love for him - I feel really bad about this. There is a lot of information asymmetry here. I mean Naira knows nothing about him or herself for that matter. But Kartik knows her inside out. So, it is easy to stage himself in such positions to make Naira fall I love with him. If Naira is falling in love with him and not anyone else, it's only because he is taking advantage of this information asymmetry and manipulating her. It would have made it more acceptable if he opened up to her about the truth or kept himself away. Definitely lying and manipulating her emotions is not cool. When she said 'In the first meeting itself, how can someone be so good, I was cringing because it was him staging it.

6. And most importantly, I am extremely pained and frustrated with both Naksh and Kartik. Both of them behave like Naira is their own property. For crying out loud, she is a human being who has her own thoughts and feelings. True, that she lost her memory, she didn't lose the ability to decide for herself. Let her live peacefully for some time and she will be able to collect some facts and feelings from her surroundings and people and let her make the decisions for her. Just stop treating her like a toddler that you are fighting with each other for.



I know this is a long and probably boring post. But I really wanted to post this here somewhere. Thanks.😃



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You made some wonderful points. You should participate in the discussion more often. In the original show attention was paid to each character but that is no more the case. It seems much effort is not being put into writing well thought out tracks these days. Maybe they are more focused on launching the spinoff show and hoping that loyal Kaira fans will continue to watch the content no matter what the quality of the product that is delivered. They are using the banner of YRKKH for the current show but it barely has any resemblance to the original intention. They are just milking the show for as much money as they can make by stretching the show with senseless tracks and calling it the longest running show.
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Originally posted by: rose2015



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You made some wonderful points. You should participate in the discussion more often. In the original show attention was paid to each character but that is no more the case. It seems much effort is not being put into writing well thought out tracks these days. Maybe they are more focused on launching the spinoff show and hoping that loyal Kaira fans will continue to watch the content no matter what the quality of the product that is delivered. They are using the banner of YRKKH for the current show but it barely has any resemblance to the original intention. They are just milking the show for as much money as they can make by stretching the show with senseless tracks and calling it the longest running show.



Thank you :)

I honestly want the writers to have an introspection on what message they are sending in the name of 'nayi soch'. I am not expecting the show to be completely devoid of logical fallacy. At times, for fun sequences, illogical scenes are indeed helpful. But what is important is the underlying morality of the storyline. Again I am not saying the leads have to be perfect. Nobody is. Let them make mistakes, but let them also face the consequences of their actions and repent over it and be given a chance to redeem. Stop whitewashing them.


I absolutely adore Naira. I always felt there is a wholesomeness to her character. A well-defined identity. Though she is very much in love with Kartik, just like he is, her life doesn't revolve around him (this probably is the problem that is making him insecure. when his life revolves around her, and hers doesn't, which is not at all her fault) She has passions - her dance, has ambitions, wanting to study and move forward. She also has meaningful relationships with other people. And above all, she is a very empathetic and compassionate person.
But this girl does not have any self-worth. She lets everyone, especially people close to her to treat her like a doormat and let people walk all over her again and again.

Kartik was an absolute delight to watch in the beginning. He wanted to make something out of himself, an identity rather than taking over those that his dad had made. But then he became completely obsessed with Naira. He doesn't have an identity apart for his feelings for Naira whether it is his love, hatred or anger, which is quite unhealthy. For people who claim to be the perfect couple and love each other like nobody else, and with high compatibility, they separate way too many times. Like what's the point even? if all this compatibility, love and understanding is not helping you to stay together.


Plus, I keep seeing people debating on who her guardian is. Why does she need a guardian? I mean she is not a minor, she is a grownass woman. Plus, I believe people have relationships with each other and not rights. Only you have right over yourself especially when you are an adult. Therefore, how much ever Naksh and Kartik fights with each other, it's all futile, because it's ultimately Naira's life and Naira's decisions.


I honestly think, once they get back together eventually, they should get couples therapy. 😆 Otherwise, they will never have time to live but only to keep fighting, separate and get back. The cycle will go on and on.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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You said word for word everything perfectly that I wished to convey. I think we will see a very insecure Karthik now with a new character coming into the picture that has interest in Naira at the dance academy. The idea of anyone coming between them will scare him to death and we may see his over possessiveness.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ekahriz

Few things I have been observing.

1. There is no point in trying to see sense in how other characters' growth and behaviours. The show is written by shoddy writers who don't flesh out any other characters. Yes, they are supporting casts, I agree, but none of these characters has a proper consistent identity. They are just pawns and puppets which can be stretched and pulled to any direction to justify Kaira.

Eg: Swarna was the best mother in law Naira could ask for. But just to keep playing their Kaira separation track due to the lack of creativity of writers, they made her evil.
Naksh was a good brother, but then he suddenly became jealous during the above-mentioned separation track of Kaira and now overly concerned about Naira. Because right now they need a character who is trying to keep the eternal lovers away from each other. Duh!

So, I don't think it's fair to blame these characters which are poorly written, but happily blame how stupid the writers have become because they are so obsessed about Kaira.

2. I don't understand how it is romantic/cool/mature to keep showing these separation tracks. I mean if you are getting separated way too many times, it is a sign that you shouldn't be together and not 'you are supposed to be with each other'. I am sure that is what any normal sensible person infer. But this is a show and it runs on mindless drama.

3. The only two characters that have more work done on them by the writers after the story took off from Naitik- Akshara is Naira - Kartik. And according to me, Naira has been far most the most consistent character. They try to show her as the mature problem solver. True, at times, it goes over the board but her intentions were always kind of morally justifiable.
Coming to Kartik, I know a lot of you are not going to like this, but anyway. Kartik is immature and stubborn. He is literally a man child. After putting so much effort into a character, this is what they could bring out. In the beginning, there was so much potential. But then they made him really obsessed with Naira, that too a very unhealthy obsession. One's relationship with their partner is only one aspect of their life, I agree it's a major one but this is a bit too much. His jealousy feels cute on screen but it's toxic. Imagine living with someone like that! Who controls you and manipulates you. (What was that jhoru ke gulaam scene? I am upset with you because you kept yourself away from me? Seriously?). Someone before also mentioned, there is no ambition in him. He doesn't want to make anything out of his life. Just spent his family's hard earned money and this comes across as really off-putting.

4. And I feel, he never really thinks about Naira. He is so focused on his own emotions, his feelings. Throwing her out of the house or fighting with her and blaming her for every small thing, the baby swap track. Then follows a lot of mopey crying scene and every fans' heart melts for him. And moreover, he is never really shown pining over his mistakes or feeling guilty and is never given a chance to redeem himself, but is just whitewashed over and over. And this is one of the characters, they have put so much work on, then you can only imagine how inconsistent and insensible the supporting casts would come across as.

5. Naira's instant love for him - I feel really bad about this. There is a lot of information asymmetry here. I mean Naira knows nothing about him or herself for that matter. But Kartik knows her inside out. So, it is easy to stage himself in such positions to make Naira fall I love with him. If Naira is falling in love with him and not anyone else, it's only because he is taking advantage of this information asymmetry and manipulating her. It would have made it more acceptable if he opened up to her about the truth or kept himself away. Definitely lying and manipulating her emotions is not cool. When she said 'In the first meeting itself, how can someone be so good, I was cringing because it was him staging it.

6. And most importantly, I am extremely pained and frustrated with both Naksh and Kartik. Both of them behave like Naira is their property. For crying out loud, she is a human being who has her own thoughts and feelings. True, that she lost her memory, she didn't lose the ability to decide for herself. Let her live peacefully for some time and she will be able to collect some facts and feelings from her surroundings and people and let her make the decisions for herself. Just stop treating her like a toddler that you are fighting with each other for.



I know this is a long and probably boring post. But I really wanted to post this here somewhere. Thanks. 😃


I agree with u kartik always is about himself i rem one ep manish even told him do u ever think of anyone else besides urself when u loved naira u ddn care about anyone else when u want to leave her u still dnt care about anyone else

I think i am in the middle dow i love kaira
Like logically and morally kartik is an asshole .

But i dont want to see naira with anyone else😭😆
and i am ok with him being an asshole i am tired of the crying and lectures about morality and goodness kaira churn out when a family member does something wrong

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Originally posted by: Ekahriz



Thank you :)

I honestly want the writers to have an introspection on what message they are sending in the name of 'nayi soch'. I am not expecting the show to be completely devoid of logical fallacy. At times, for fun sequences, illogical scenes are indeed helpful. But what is important is the underlying morality of the storyline. Again I am not saying the leads have to be perfect. Nobody is. Let them make mistakes, but let them also face the consequences of their actions and repent over it and be given a chance to redeem. Stop whitewashing them.


I absolutely adore Naira. I always felt there is a wholesomeness to her character. A well-defined identity. Though she is very much in love with Kartik, just like he is, her life doesn't revolve around him (this probably is the problem that is making him insecure. when his life revolves around her, and hers doesn't, which is not at all her fault) She has passions - her dance, has ambitions, wanting to study and move forward. She also has meaningful relationships with other people. And above all, she is a very empathetic and compassionate person.
But this girl does not have any self-worth. She lets everyone, especially people close to her to treat her like a doormat and let people walk all over her again and again.

Kartik was an absolute delight to watch in the beginning. He wanted to make something out of himself, an identity rather than taking over those that his dad had made. But then he became completely obsessed with Naira. He doesn't have an identity apart for his feelings for Naira whether it is his love, hatred or anger, which is quite unhealthy. For people who claim to be the perfect couple and love each other like nobody else, and with high compatibility, they separate way too many times. Like what's the point even? if all this compatibility, love and understanding is not helping you to stay together.


Plus, I keep seeing people debating on who her guardian is. Why does she need a guardian? I mean she is not a minor, she is a grownass woman. Plus, I believe people have relationships with each other and not rights. Only you have right over yourself especially when you are an adult. Therefore, how much ever Naksh and Kartik fights with each other, it's all futile, because it's ultimately Naira's life and Naira's decisions.


I honestly think, once they get back together eventually, they should get couples therapy. 😆 Otherwise, they will never have time to live but only to keep fighting, separate and get back. The cycle will go on and on.


My argument for the guardian thing is just against naksh i dont understand how he can legally make choices for her medically when kartik is her guardian if she was on life support he would be the one to decide if they should pull the plug or not

Like every spouse in the world is the guardian/ or maybe guardian is the wrong word but the person who makes the choices medically

and naksh said he ddn want kartik suggesting any treatments or docs for naira which again made no sense to me because kartik should be legally the one deciding it all him stepping back concerning naira health not talking to docs asking if shel be ok what should be done all just seems so rushed and stupid

There was a reason why naira married him before she went for her surgery back then...it was so no matter what shed die or whatever but shel be a goenka

I feel naksh says he wants naira to rem but then does shit like hide all kartik's photos and presence from naira which makes no sense because he is all naira is seeming to rem or feel that is familiar to her

Its like saying a medicine is good for naira it will cure her and help her be normal again but rather than give it to her i will lie and just hope she rems me only

And kartik is the most controlling sob ever😆 like he knows he hurt her and decides to leave her but without him "helping" making it normal for her she has not got the ability to be normal😆

Like in which world is he better than naksh?

They are the same

Naira go to austria like the reports with varun tokrey😆 can we all just laugh at how kartik will probably react to naira around another guy not rem him and just overall close to someone else he will flat out start drinking again🤣
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Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh


My argument for the guardian thing is just against naksh i dont understand how he can legally make choices for her medically when kartik is her guardian if she was on life support he would be the one to decide if they should pull the plug or not

Like every spouse in the world is the guardian/ or maybe guardian is the wrong word but the person who makes the choices medically

and naksh said he ddn want kartik suggesting any treatments or docs for naira which again made no sense to me because kartik should be legally the one deciding it all him stepping back concerning naira health not talking to docs asking if shel be ok what should be done all just seems so rushed and stupid

There was a reason why naira married him before she went for her surgery back then...it was so no matter what shed die or whatever but shel be a goenka

I feel naksh says he wants naira to rem but then does shit like hide all kartik's photos and presence from naira which makes no sense because he is all naira is seeming to rem or feel that is familiar to her

Its like saying a medicine is good for naira it will cure her and help her be normal again but rather than give it to her i will lie and just hope she rems me only

And kartik is the most controlling sob ever😆 like he knows he hurt her and decides to leave her but without him "helping" making it normal for her she has not got the ability to be normal😆

Like in which world is he better than naksh?

They are the same

Naira go to austria like the reports with varun tokrey😆 can we all just laugh at how kartik will probably react to naira around another guy not rem him and just overall close to someone else he will flat out start drinking again🤣



Yeah. I understand what you meant by using the word guardian. And my post regarding that was not based on what just you said. There were many people posting about it.
And also, Naira is all well, now. Why isn't she trying to understand what her illness was or what she should do to get her memory back? She is not even trying to understand her relationship with the people in the house. She didn't even ask where her parents are. I am sure that is the second question everyone who lost their memory would have asked after probably asking 'Who am I?' Also, she gave birth to a child and had a C-section. Won't she feel those changes in her body?
Lol, anyway I am trying to not think of logic.

I know a jodi other than Kartik - Naira is impossible and I am not even looking forward to that right now. But during the two-year separation track, I so badly wanted her to leave him for someone else. But I really really love to see a more mature and secure Kartik. There need to be more changes in him. He has to be more understanding and trusting and respectful towards Naira.

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Yeah. I understand what you meant by using the word guardian. And my post regarding that was not based on what just you said. There were many people posting about it.
And also, Naira is all well, now. Why isn't she trying to understand what her illness was or what she should do to get her memory back? She is not even trying to understand her relationship with the people in the house. She didn't even ask where her parents are. I am sure that is the second question everyone who lost their memory would have asked after probably asking 'Who am I?' Also, she gave birth to a child and had a C-section. Won't she feel those changes in her body?
Lol, anyway I am trying to not think of logic.

I know a jodi other than Kartik - Naira is impossible and I am not even looking forward to that right now. But during the two-year separation track, I so badly wanted her to leave him for someone else. But I really really love to see a more mature and secure Kartik. There need to be more changes in him. He has to be more understanding and trusting and respectful towards Naira.

😳


Lol the singhanias hung up some pics and then went back to discussing how they can make this all kartik's problem and how to somehow shove naira back into goenka house while keerti listened silently hoping it would happen sooner than later so she could have her baby to herself

when did they have time to actually spend with naira

this track was very rushed

Like when her family should be around her feeding her, naksh should be having simple convos with her telling her about her life before, but nope he is throwing away kartik's shit, and getting mad at anyone who mentions shipping naira over to kartik the infamous baby theif

Kartik's disconnect to what he has done and none-interest in keerti also shows how self absorbed he is...

He ddn try and explain it to her, when she has always understood him...and they made it all about kaira...

Like can they stop...its like yeh sari rishta obsessed with kaira shipping or separating😆
where is the actual rishtes?

On some level i wont be surprised if kartik sits with his laptop and has cctv footage of singhania house scatters some files around him and just watches naira 24/7
also since krish is of no value to him have u even seen him try to see him or well anyone else
all he cares about is naira and again to some extent i dont blame him coz naira literally is everything to him(his own family have never done anything really worth talking about for him, manish let suwarna shit on his head and suffocate him, and lied to him, dadi is another suffocator, chachi and chachu are just decorations add no value to his life)...he doesnt function like a normal human without her, and with her as well. like he is always scared he will lose her.

where naira became insecure with her jealousy kartik became controlling and sort of manipulative post leap he lies so much😆 and also doesnt ever feel bad about it...

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There is a saying in Malayalam pathramarinju bhiksha edanam) ( Meaning: Understand the vessel before you give alms. Indirect meaning, u have to...

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Posted by: Firefly_shines · 1 months ago

Just imagine someone blames you for every discomfort his family faces. Keeps mum while his family character assassinates you and your mother....

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Posted by: Firefly_shines · 1 months ago

https://youtu.be/umiyKyIxbSM?si=qeZqLs6A0fSHSmqn This is what happens when you’re so obsessed over a man that you fall in love with pain and...

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