Communication (Phase 1)-Kaira

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Finalllyy after ages they didn't shout at each other and listened even after their argument...though still a few questions were unanswered...Devyani Dadi finally revealed truth of Naira's leg injury...which should be revealed long back (but than how CV would have stretched this for more than 2 months?)...finally somebody act humanly yet logical among residents of SS...her confronting him for not listening to same Naira who did a lott for him and his family was on point!...after Karthik and Naira's calmer conversation and their broken expectations few points are cleared...

Karthik didn't know that Suwarna decided Naira's boundaries and commanded her not to enter GV again...even after their mutual separation if he gets to know that Suwarna was lying in hospital...I can already sense Mata g being in same trouble again...CVs should show Karthik shouting at "maa" or firmly confronting her...I don't want him to spare her due to her mental state...whatsoever šŸ¤”

Karthik didn't know about Naira's leg injury and he also didn't know that she was waiting for him on terrace that day..

As expected Karthik wanted Naira to be by his side as he was facing a difficult phase of life after losing his brother and his mother's mental state was deteriorating but he expected her not to give up on him overlooking his irrational and illogical insults and him blaming her repeatedly when he would completely refuse to understand her...she should have tried repeatedly (according to Karthik's POV)...

Karthik asked her to leave for a while as correctly inferred earlier...

Naira as expected was waiting for him to communicate that time after overcoming his grief...she didn't justify herself in Mumbai even when he pushed her to as she was tired of being blamed repeatedly and justifying herself repeatedly...(according to Naira's POV)

KD and par pota obsession hasn't change a bit from last year janmashtmi šŸ˜†...as much as I want KD vs Swarna mata...I was surprised watching her being scared of Suwarna mata...same Suwarna mata whom she controlled the most among three DILs ...plus even after finding KD logical at times...can't trust her...as whenever she will get to know Naira is not pregnant she won't hesitate to join team Suwarna mata...no matter what...KD loves to blame Naira...she is way too rigid and regressive...her belief that pota bahu who belongs to younger generation should be a doormat...will never change...

Even now I find Karthik being more at fault than Naira...though a confrontation was needed from Naira's side before sending divorce papers...but than Karthik himself was confused about future of their relationship...even now he was blaming Naira for hiding truth of her leg injury...at one time he is the most caring lover while other times he is unaffected or bothers least more precisely CVs Amnesia overpowers...pre-leap he always prioritized her safety, mental peace and well being above his own self, ego and principles...but during those 2 years he was never even once concerned about her?...he never tried to inquire where she is?...Is she safe? etc...normally care never get switched off during anger (tried and tested formulašŸ˜†)...he was concerned about her in Mumbai that's why he kept questioning her repeatedly...after returning back to Udaipur his concern again switched off because she sent divorce papers?...that's it...after choosing his mother...he can't expect Naira to hold onto him...

Why Manish never conversed with him regarding all of them being responsible for Shubham's death?...If Devyani can reveal truth of Naira's leg injury to Karthik than why can't Manish talk to him once?...as he has always been pro Kaira...and desperately wanted to reunite them...Naira hiding truth of Shubham's drug addiction doesn't make her responsible for his death...why can't Karthik understand this simpler logic?...If Naira repeatedly tried to talked to him after Shubham's death as he wanted her by his side during that tough phase would he listen to her or believed her overlooking his own fact that "Naira is responsible for Shubham's death"? Would he convinced Suwarna mata when he himself didn't trust her or doesn't want to see his entire family's role in greatly overlooking Shubham and being responsible for his death...

As of now...progress is good..from both sides...Karthik and Naira will eventually become Kaira...after clearing all misunderstandings,rebuilding trust and reviving their bond...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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It was a series of unfortunate events that started with Shubnam's dealth. I think Karthik just got overwhelmed with everything and didn't know how to handle it. He felt caught in the middle between his wife and SM both pulling him in opposite directions.

Most men if they have to choose one relation over the other will choose their mother instead of their wife. He needed a support system which he didn't have and to appease his mind he accepted his SM"s claim that Naira was responsible for Shubnam's death.

Suwarna is all about control and manipulation and she used this to show Karthik is her puppet and that Naira would never be priority #1 in Karthik's life which is not true. Naira became the punching bag because they wanted to hold someone responsible for his death. In their grief and denial Naira was an easy target.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I loved the fact they laid out how each one disappointed the other...
There was a lot of slip ups in attempts to white wash kartik and make him a white night again after he was behaving like a moron

there are things we cant forget even though naira seems to have:
Naira said this when he showed up at the flats that when the singhanias called him so much...he never came why would he come now...
+ Naira phoned him for days all the calls were deleted by suwarna when she was in hosp etc...
I think naitik phoned to tell him but then suwarna cut the call.
When naira tried to tell him anything he either ran away or behaved like an asshole.
He asked her to leave repeatedly.
(then cried why did she leave)
In mumbai she was about to tell him about her injury he cant play victim and say she ddn try...

I do get to a point suwarnas shit made him stupid...but he literally cannot be this blind...
is this the same man who literally broke into an office because he felt responsible for nairas form not being filled in...and got her a place in an exam?
he felt so guilty he couldnt sleep...

new kartik goes to the bath room falls on the floor blames naira for not telling him
(again how does this mean she doesnt trust him i fail to understand why should she tell him anything with the way he behaves with her+ he shows no trust whatso ever but expects blind trust on her side in him)
then goes and smiles like nothing happen at aashišŸ‘ŽšŸ¼ this scene should have been left it was way to abrupt out maybe monday they could have showed it after this burglary...
kartik could have gotten a little nick and suwarna be like my son hurt himself because of u will u only be happy when his dead...and naira not saying anything and leaving. And kartik starring at her seeing she herself is injured limping. Going to her house and asking her to see a doc for her leg...and naira being like no...
and then devyani telling him and it hitting him properly showing him going home brooding in silence... for a bit...then finding a doc and taking it to show naira...and naira being like ok il go and kartik insisting ...
and naira being like after the wedding and him being like no...the docs going to be leaving u have to go now...and naira being like fine and no 1 being at home so kartik taking her for her appointment... and going inside with her etc...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: rose2015

It was a series of unfortunate events that started with Shubnam's dealth. I think Karthik just got overwhelmed with everything and didn't know how to handle it. He felt caught in the middle between his wife and SM both pulling him in opposite directions.

Most men if they have to choose one relation over the other will choose their mother instead of their wife. He needed a support system which he didn't have and to appease his mind he accepted his SM"s claim that Naira was responsible for Shubnam's death.

Suwarna is all about control and manipulation and she used this to show Karthik is her puppet and that Naira would never be priority #1 in Karthik's life which is not true. Naira became the punching bag because they wanted to hold someone responsible for his death. In their grief and denial Naira was an easy target.


Yes...most of the men infact women too choose their parents more specifically when its about parent's life and well being...but after choosing parents they can't expect their husband/wives to keep trying to mend their relationship...or to stay married to them in namesake relationship when they know their spouse consider them reason of their close one's death and won't ever forgive them...I don't blame Karthik for choosing Suwarna as that time he said those words to handle Suwarna's mamta attack...but he wasn't willing to accept Naira...nor was Suwarna...so what should Naira ideally do?...stay married to him?...get accused of causing Shubham's death repeatedly?...that was unfair...Suwarna is most delusional character among the other delusion one's writer has ever written...one day she will wake up from her deep slumber...will have nobody beside her...not even those who get scared of her even by listening her name..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

I loved the fact they laid out how each one disappointed the other...

There was a lot of slip ups in attempts to white wash kartik and make him a white night again after he was behaving like a moron

there are things we cant forget even though naira seems to have:
Naira said this when he showed up at the flats that when the singhanias called him so much...he never came why would he come now...
+ Naira phoned him for days all the calls were deleted by suwarna when she was in hosp etc...
I think naitik phoned to tell him but then suwarna cut the call.
When naira tried to tell him anything he either ran away or behaved like an asshole.
He asked her to leave repeatedly.
(then cried why did she leave)
In mumbai she was about to tell him about her injury he cant play victim and say she ddn try...

I do get to a point suwarnas shit made him stupid...but he literally cannot be this blind...
is this the same man who literally broke into an office because he felt responsible for nairas form not being filled in...and got her a place in an exam?
he felt so guilty he couldnt sleep...

new kartik goes to the bath room falls on the floor blames naira for not telling him
(again how does this mean she doesnt trust him i fail to understand why should she tell him anything with the way he behaves with her+ he shows no trust whatso ever but expects blind trust on her side in him)
then goes and smiles like nothing happen at aashišŸ‘ŽšŸ¼ this scene should have been left it was way to abrupt out maybe monday they could have showed it after this burglary...
kartik could have gotten a little nick and suwarna be like my son hurt himself because of u will u only be happy when his dead...and naira not saying anything and leaving. And kartik starring at her seeing she herself is injured limping. Going to her house and asking her to see a doc for her leg...and naira being like no...
and then devyani telling him and it hitting him properly showing him going home brooding in silence... for a bit...then finding a doc and taking it to show naira...and naira being like ok il go and kartik insisting ...
and naira being like after the wedding and him being like no...the docs going to be leaving u have to go now...and naira being like fine and no 1 being at home so kartik taking her for her appointment... and going inside with her etc...


@red he still doesn't know about Suwarna mata's involvement in distancing him from Naira...he think Naira want to distance herself from him she want to move on...she want freedom etc...which she shouldn't according to Karthik as if Naira is some devi who can never get tired of her husband giving up on her...if he look beyond his "blame Naira for everything" motive these days..only than he will understand where he went wrong...also even if according to his perspective Naira didn't listen him saying those words to Suwarna than also he knew atleast he gave up on her...why can't she do same what he did?...

@bold Poor editing...there is no relevance between two scenes...camera roll during Devyani-Karthik scene made it appear too over-dramatic and kektaish and if camera man's head was spinning while shooting that scene šŸ˜†...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptiveFreedom


@red he still doesn't know about Suwarna mata's involvement in distancing him from Naira...he think Naira want to distance herself from him she want to move on...she want freedom etc...which she shouldn't according to Karthik as if Naira is some devi who can never get tired of her husband giving up on her...if he look beyond his "blame Naira for everything" motive these days..only than he will understand where he went wrong...also even if according to his perspective Naira didn't listen him saying those words to Suwarna than also he knew atleast he gave up on her...why can't she do same what he did?...

--thats why i say his character and suwarnas are being white washed...they are trying to lesson their guilt by making naira say it was both our faults. But how are we suppose to forget all this? I know ma doing all her shit has no fault like dadi also gets clean chit for all the shit she ever done. But imagine if naira did the same thing to kartik. He would literally run away and make her grovel for months how is it fairšŸ˜† i bet u if naira doesnt agree to go back to him after he grovels he will get mad and she will end up groveling somehow

@bold Poor editing...there is no relevance between two scenes...camera roll during Devyani-Karthik scene made it appear too over-dramatic and kektaish and if camera man's head was spinning while shooting that scene šŸ˜†...

--yeah i was also thinking how fast it was spinning in that scene. And kartik had the worlds blandest expression on

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Everyone liked yesterday's ep because the story was hopeless since days now, and it showed some sort of progress finally šŸ˜†
After the initial happiness of the story progression dies down, you realise that Kartik is still trying to blame her for everything wrong. For her every question.. his answer was.. main apni maa ko sambhal raha tha... chalo fine he didn't want her in front of her mother on the death day.. but when she did return.. that day also he showed her the door, main apni maa ko sambhal raha tha. My point is.. at that moment he was VERY sure his mother won't be able to stand Naira.. so eventually he wanted her to leave.. whether she had told him about her injury or not.. WHAT difference would that have made?

Imagine after one month Naira had come to GV again, Snakema would have had another of her crazy panic attacks, Kartik would have again asked her to leave.. and he would have said.. mujhe apni maa sambhalna hai... naira abhi ke liye chali jaao. 🄱

Even in Mumbai.. he openly said there will be nothing in between them ever, what difference it would have made if he got to know what Naira was saying or feeling. For him, it was just his mother back on that day.. for him it was his mother in Mumbai, for him it is his mother today. So I ask, What would have Kartik done, if she had told him back then about the injury.. except for may be arrange a doctor for her?

He got to know about the injury yesterday, the first thing he did was.. blame her for not telling him and crying in a corner about it šŸ¤”

Mumbai ho ya Udaipur.. aaj ho ya do saal pehle.. apparently her injury also gave him a reason to blame her. And for all his care and affection he shows once a week... he cared less if she had died in the last two years. Which is why I keep saying this two year leap was the worst thing ever. Six months it should have been.

When she argued that tumne bhi toh kabhi nahi pucha.. he had no answer. Badi mushkil se maa ko sambhala. how will that girl know that what is the perfect time to appear in front of u or in front of your mother? šŸ˜•

It's this attitude which is so off putting about his character. Main.. main.. main.. It was all about him.. mujhe kyun nahi bataya.. kal bataya toh kya kiya tumne? Blamed her again.. You would have blamed her back then.. you are blaming her now.. Idiot hai.

He was more angry because her family thinks she can't dance because of him. He can't stand anyone blaming him for anything.. but he will continue blaming her for everything?
It all boils down to his one sentence... main sahi hoon aur tum galat.

Edited by vellainsaan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: vellainsaan

Everyone liked yesterday's ep because the story was hopeless since days now, and it showed some sort of progress finally šŸ˜†

After the initial happiness of the story progression dies down, you realise that Kartik is still trying to blame her for everything wrong. For her every question.. his answer was.. main apni maa ko sambhal raha tha... chalo fine he didn't want her in front of her mother on the death day.. but when she did return.. that day also he showed her the door, main apni maa ko sambhal raha tha. My point is.. at that moment he was VERY sure his mother won't be able to stand Naira.. so eventually he wanted her to leave.. whether she had told him about her injury or not.. WHAT difference would that have made?

Imagine after one month Naira had come to GV again, Snakema would have had another of her crazy panic attacks, Kartik would have again asked her to leave.. and he would have said.. mujhe apni maa sambhalna hai... naira abhi ke liye chali jaao. 🄱

Even in Mumbai.. he openly said there will be nothing in between them ever, what difference it would have made if he got to know what Naira was saying or feeling. For him, it was just his mother back on that day.. for him it was his mother in Mumbai, for him it is his mother today. So I ask, What would have Kartik done, if she had told him back then about the injury.. except for may be arrange a doctor for her?

He got to know about the injury yesterday, the first thing he did was.. blame her for not telling him and crying in a corner about it šŸ¤”

Mumbai ho ya Udaipur.. aaj ho ya do saal pehle.. apparently her injury also gave him a reason to blame her. And for all his care and affection he shows once a week... he cared less if she had died in the last two years. Which is why I keep saying this two year leap was the worst thing ever. Six months it should have been.

When she argued that tumne bhi toh kabhi nahi pucha.. he had no answer. Badi mushkil se maa ko sambhala. how will that girl know that what is the perfect to appear in front of u or in front of your mother? šŸ˜•

It's this attitude which is so off putting about his character. Main.. main.. main.. It was all about him.. mujhe kyun nahi bataya.. kal bataya toh kya kiya tumne? Blamed her again.. You would have blamed her back then.. you are blaming her now.. Idiot hai.

He was more angry because her family thinks she can't dance because of him. He can't stand anyone blaming him for anything.. but he will continue blaming her for everything?
It all boils down to his one sentence... main sahi hoon aur tum galat.


What about kartik saying who am i to decide what is wrong and right🤣
or something like that
after thumping at his chest for the past two weeks finding faults in everything naira does being wrong to him...apart from her breathing and existing...
suddenly he doesnt know whats right and wrong because he got one accusation all the singhanias should freeze him out and treat him like his fam treats naira

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