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Posted: 7 years ago
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I saw a lot of Arjun bashing going on in the forum this week.
So just thought of playing Devil's advocate to see things from another pov.
As we all know,Arjun's character has been portrayed in such a way that he buckles under pressure.He is also extremely obedient and has never gone against his dad.

Arjun's love for Shefali :
The reason Arjun fell for Shefali was that she understood the pressure he was under and supported him.She introduced him to a new world with a fresh perspective.She was the only person with whom he could be himself,share his fears,his inadequacies and weaknesses .In short,she let him be himself.Her love gave him courage to rebel,albeit in a very small way,to rebel against his set norms and rules.Going to her house from a cricket match simply to be with her,lying to his dad and spending the night with an ill Shefali and caring for her and offering his car to her were,from his pov,huge acts of rebellion from his status quo.In short he was just coming out of his shell and starting to develop courage and her love gave him that courage.

Reaction to getting caught:
When he was caught,, it was the first time he was put in a spot and he had no idea how to handle it.Before he could recover he had Shefali declaring her love for him.To have his love story come out in front of his extremely strict and conservative family at 19 and see his father attempting suicide was his worst nightmare come true. Arjun behaved in a cowardly manner maybe,but he was equally overcome by terror and confusion.


What went wrong:
I strongly believe that discretion is the better part of valour. And there is a right time and place for everything.When certain things(like love) is revealed to parents before the relationship reaches its natural level of stability,it is bound to fall apart.It is natural for parents to overreact because they are afraid that their children may lose their way.It is important that such issues be conveyed to parents only after the people concerned are older,independent and mature.Then a much more mature reaction can be expected from parents.The children too would get the strength to stand up for their love once they are mature,independent and more mentally prepared. With due respect to Shefali's courage and gutsiness,I must say that her love declaration was a case of fools rushing in where angels fear to tread.

Maybe,if Shefali had simply said that Arjun had offered her the car since they were friends,it would have worked a little better.This would have invited bad consequences but would not have courted disaster for them.To be frank,Shefali's love declaration was bolt out of the blue for me too,mainly because the situation did not warrant it. Of course,Shefali is also young and probably got carried away.

Would Arjun have reacted differently if the revelation had come a few years later?

I believe that if Arjun had been given time and space he would have confronted his dad and his family and stood up for Shefali. But this would have happened 4-5 years later.19 was too early for him.It is also very likely that his family would have acted a little differently.Before condemning Arjun's reaction outright,one also has to look at his support system and family circumstances.

Arjun has a dad who puts a mountain of pressure on him.Failure is unacceptable in his household.Plus he has relatives who are ultra conservative which has made his thought process the same way.Arjun,in short,has no friends.No one can he can share his feelings/fears with(except Shefali,of course).

Comparing him with Naina,who has a similar family background and pressures.But she has Preeti,her friend,sister,confidant,supporter and shield.Anytime Naina is in a spot,Preeti covers for her.Then she has Munna,Pandit,Swati,Kamya and Hema who form her second level to support.They give Naina the strength to fight for her love.Arjun has no support system.

Let us now compare him with Sameer. Sameer has been a rebel since childhood,hence speaking his mind and going against rules comes naturally to him,unlike Arjun.No doubt,Sameer is more courageous than Arjun by nature.But the same Sameer could not even face Naina and apologize to her after the bet. He might have become a second Arjun,but his Nanu's strength and guidance prevented this.Without judging Sameer for his actions and with unspoken words his Nanu understood his predicament and showed him the right path.If not for Nanu's sound and sage advice, Sameer would also be in the same place as Arjun.

In a nutshell,I would say,Arjun was wrong for not standing up for Shefali.But I do believe his love was true and given time he would have certainly stood up for her.His reaction was a function of his upbringing,inherent nature and circumstances. Shefali's untimely revelation of their love was also quite uncalled for and she certainly had a small role to play in this whole fiasco.Let us not judge Arjun too harshly,He is after all,just a teenager in love whose dreams suddenly turned into a nightmare.



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Whatever you said can be right to some extent but whatever said and done...when their truth got revealed ...he should have supported Shefali and not leave her alone to face the wrath of everyone like this😳
Also on their way back home when they were caught by police...he had sufficient time to plan what to say to his family as he very well knew how they would react...but he kept quiet and allowed everyone to make assumptions and his silence led to excess pressure on Shefali that led to her revelation...when she was expalining about Sandra's wedding...if he had for once told everyone that whatever she is saying is right...maybe he could have twisted the truth that he himself offered the car... then probably things wouldn't have gone so ugly...but whatever said and done...this had to happen😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Very nice post and overall analysis. But I agree with doc's point of view. If he had learnt a bit from Shefali then he would have had some plan ready for facing his family.
We all know why their track ended but if it was handled bit differently in a way by Shefali not losing her self respect. That character didn't deserve such humiliation.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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A different view on arjun's character. I just wanted him to accept that he loved her infront of everyone. Its nothing like that i wanted him to go against his family or runway with her. I just wanted him to tell the truth.If he had accepted that then there wouldn't be much hatred towards him. His silence famed shefali as a lier and characterless girl. How could he hear all that things about her?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: braveheartdoc

Whatever you said can be right to some extent but whatever said and done...when their truth got revealed ...he should have supported Shefali and not leave her alone to face the wrath of everyone like this😳

Also on their way back home when they were caught by police...he had sufficient time to plan what to say to his family as he very well knew how they would react...but he kept quiet and allowed everyone to make assumptions and his silence led to excess pressure on Shefali that led to her revelation...when she was expalining about Sandra's wedding...if he had for once told everyone that whatever she is saying is right...maybe he could have twisted the truth that he himself offered the car... then probably things wouldn't have gone so ugly...but whatever said and done...this had to happen😳


Thanks for replying.
I completely agree with you.He certainly should have spoken up .Standing there in silence when his girl was being called characterless is an act of cowardice and he would repent for his actions forever.
However,my pov was that this kind of reaction is not abnormal from a 19 year old teenager who is terrified of his parents.In real life,I expect that we will have a lot more Arjuns than we have Shefalis.And though what he did is not completely excusable,it can't be completely condoned either.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: bmk28

Very nice post and overall analysis. But I agree with doc's point of view. If he had learnt a bit from Shefali then he would have had some plan ready for facing his family.
We all know why their track ended but if it was handled bit differently in a way by Shefali not losing her self respect. That character didn't deserve such humiliation.


Thank you for your reply😊

Yes,he certainly should have planned better,at least from the time he was caught with the car.It was sad to see Shefali humiliated
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lavender25

A different view on arjun's character. I just wanted him to accept that he loved her infront of everyone. Its nothing like that i wanted him to go against his family or runway with her. I just wanted him to tell the truth.If he had accepted that then there wouldn't be much hatred towards him. His silence famed shefali as a lier and characterless girl. How could he hear all that things about her?


Thank you 😊

Yes,in an ideal world he should have accepted his love.And from a moral pov,he should have definitely accepted his love and should have never heard such crap about her.
But my post was to bring out that from a realistic pov,we will see a lot of Arjuns in this world.one can expect a lot of 19 year olds to go back on their word/love when confronted in front of their parents.And Arjun did the same thing.While his actions don't deserve sympathy and the moral compass points against him,I don't think he should be condoned outright.I think he just acted like the majority.
Just my opinion😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Rock n Roll,

It's nice to hear from you again. I have always liked the practical manner you explain the points yet retaining the emotional aspects of human actions.

I completely agree with all the points you mentioned. The interesting fact is in this kind of discussions involving human emotions and reactions, their predictions - no point is absolutely right or absolutely wrong.

All we can do is to try and predict the human emotions/reactions and interestingly any prediction can be correct and incorrect too. That's how unpredictable human emotions are.

However, the predictions we make more or less comes from our own experiences and worldview. So, I won't hesitate to agree that, many of my reactions surge from my own experiences of teenage love and the journey after that.

I agree that no single teenage action can define or predict the future behavior of a teenager absolutely. (Mind it: There are some actions that can be irreversible).

However, what Arjun did can either make him a lifelong escapist (in the process hurting any girl that comes into his life) or it will teach him the significance of correct timing for everything. Though hurt and ashamed of his cowardice, he would take efforts to make himself better as he grows up to be an independent man.

Hopefully, Arjun and similar real-life characters will learn to juggle various relations and give justice to where it is required.

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I agree that my bias comes from my own experiences. After going through the entire journey of teenage love and gaining the experience, one thing that still affects me when I see teenagers in love is the aspect of heartbreak.

Most of us in the see it the context of Love, Romance, and Good Actors/Beautiful actors presenting a story. But I see it also for the stark reality that it makes the teenagers go through in regards to a relationship. There are always youngsters who are not able to tackle or adjust when their love interest decides to break the relation for some reason. Many times such vulnerable teenagers do not confide in anyone and either take some drastic step or harm their future career. They end up wasting some of the most productive years of their career.

Maturity soon comes after some years but the most important time to make a future or career would have crossed. We have also initiated a help group where teenagers who are going through a phase like this, share their inner turmoil and be stable. We slowly ease them to discuss the issue with their parents so that rather than getting an angry reaction, teenagers receive an understanding and assuring response.

Hence when I see someone wrongly or ditched by the other for some or other reason it resonates with me - even if its a show. And the show YUDKBH has been more or less quiet realistic. So, I always connect with the following instances - Sameer deceiving Naina with False Love, Sameer falling in love without knowing, Both falling in Love again and Now Naina deciding to leave Naina fearing family pressure.

Also, the reason for Update & Addition to my story -

The way the I completed the story in the previous version, seemed a bit rushed. It gave the impression that practicality won over passion & love. On the contrary, the expression of passion after the reunion party was not expressed completely. So, to make the story complete I wrote the additional sections. Though if you plan to read on the story - just an update that the updated section gets very intimate and raw.


Thank you again for sharing your opinion with this nice post.
Edited by Dr.Don - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dr.Don

Hi Rock n Roll,

It's nice to hear from you again. I have always liked the practical manner you explain the points yet retaining the emotional aspects of human actions.

I completely agree with all the points you mentioned. The interesting fact is in this kind of discussions involving human emotions and reactions, their predictions - no point is absolutely right or absolutely wrong.

All we can do is to try and predict the human emotions/reactions and interestingly any prediction can be correct and incorrect too. That's how unpredictable human emotions are.

However, the predictions we make more or less comes from our own experiences and worldview. So, I won't hesitate to agree that, many of my reactions surge from my own experiences of teenage love and the journey after that.

I agree that no single teenage action can define or predict the future behavior of a teenager absolutely. (Mind it: There are some actions that can be irreversible).

However, what Arjun did can either make him a lifelong escapist (in the process hurting any girl that comes into his life) or it will teach him the significance of correct timing for everything. Though hurt and ashamed of his cowardice, he would take efforts to make himself better as he grows up to be an independent man.

Hopefully, Arjun and similar real-life characters will learn to juggle various relations and give justice to where it is required.

****************

I agree that my bias comes from my own experiences. After going through the entire journey of teenage love and gaining the experience, one thing that still affects me when I see teenagers in love is the aspect of heartbreak.

Most of us in the see it the context of Love, Romance, and Good Actors/Beautiful actors presenting a story. But I see it also for the stark reality that it makes the teenagers go through in regards to a relationship. There are always youngsters who are not able to tackle or adjust when their love interest decides to break the relation for some reason. Many times such vulnerable teenagers do not confide in anyone and either take some drastic step or harm their future career. They end up wasting some of the most productive years of their career.

Maturity soon comes after some years but the most important time to make a future or career would have crossed. We have also initiated a help group where teenagers who are going through a phase like this, share their inner turmoil and be stable. We slowly ease them to discuss the issue with their parents so that rather than getting an angry reaction, teenagers receive an understanding and assuring response.

Hence when I see someone wrongly or ditched by the other for some or other reason it resonates with me - even if its a show. And the show YUDKBH has been more or less quiet realistic. So, I always connect with the following instances - Sameer deceiving Naina with False Love, Sameer falling in love without knowing, Both falling in Love again and Now Naina deciding to leave Naina fearing family pressure.

Also, the reason for Update & Addition to my story -

The way the I completed the story in the previous version, seemed a bit rushed. It gave the impression that practicality won over passion & love. On the contrary, the expression of passion after the reunion party was not expressed completely. So, to make the story complete I wrote the additional sections. Though if you plan to read on the story - just an update that the updated section gets very intimate and raw.


Thank you again for sharing your opinion with this nice post.


Thank you for your detailed and interesting response,Doc.
You are so right when you say that in such discussions involving human reactions and emotions there is no absolute right and wrong.There are simply different perspectives and reading your pov is always very refreshing.😳.

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