Yeah yeah...I rewatched, she was DT only.But in the first go I couldn't realise that. That make up was really good.Maybe I was still not out of the "Tumse hi din hota hai" land to understand the bhootiya thing n double role of DTđ
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Yeah yeah...I rewatched, she was DT only.But in the first go I couldn't realise that. That make up was really good.Maybe I was still not out of the "Tumse hi din hota hai" land to understand the bhootiya thing n double role of DTđ
Originally posted by: zohakhan7
Exactly that's what i was saying that like Raman had done unforgivable things even Ishita had done unforgivable things which unfortunately got hidden in the love for family n all while Raman's mistakes were highlighted like no end !!I just want to say is that both IshRa have flaws n are imperfect but they r perfect for each other only n belong to each other only !!
Originally posted by: lavs_157
Exactly that's what I have been reitrating again and again. They are both flawed. They are both imperfect, that's why they are perfect for each other.
Like Ishita, Raman also keeps his family and their happiness before himself. He thinks for them first n himself later. He may shout, but his heart is as pure as Ishita's and has immense love like Ishita's does. Both of them believe in giving with all their heart without a thought about themselves. That's why they are unique and perfect for each other. They both have certain shortcomings in them which the other fills beautifully. Like two halves of a whole. You can't love one without the other.
What actually is the point that is irking everybody to the core after today's episode??? Is it the point that Raman became angry n needed to be asked to be a support to Ishita OR is it that out of all it is Shagun who did it ??In either case I don't c any serious problem that I should break my head...Coz...The first point...Raman planned this whole trip in the first place, so that he n Ishita can relax after both went through a hell lot of problems back home...And Ishita never said before that she was being followed by a bhootni...she herself was thinking it to be a living girl...And Raman twice said about complaining to police but she herself was not sure...now suddenly she started saying that it is a bhootni who is troubling her...Raman is/was always shown a non believer in such things...so he is not able to digest it...and moreover he himself is just recovering from the effects of banned drugs medication...so him getting stressed on repeatedly hearing things that he doesn't believe in doesn't seem out of place...
And about Shagun...well everybody including me knows that it is the fact that AH is BFF of Ekta off-screen is converted to Shagun hogging SS onscreen, when actually this character became irrelevant to the storyline long long back...So when we r very well used to this fact, y r we breaking our heads again n again for this very same thing...Moreover offl
All this never-ending discussion has only one conclusion that IshRa are equals but there are two very natural differences that make it difficult to understand for all the "Raman-lovers" n at times, some real IshRa lovers tooThe first is Ishita is a female n Raman is a male...the pseudo feminism n woman empowermentN the other is, Raman is a little more louder than the normal people at wrong times n places whereas Ishita is over sweet forever. Raman speaks less n acts more whereas Ishita also speaks as much as she acts with her long lectures n justifications, so her intentions are conveyed loud n clear unlike Raman's.Like Raman had said after the first Param dhulaai scene..."Logon ko lagta hai saari problems aurto ko hi hoti hai...but its not easy to be a man. Parivaar ki gutthi mein hum bhi ulajhte hain, par jataate nahi, baas yahi galti karte hain!" This dialogue was my most favourite one from that scene n I'll never forget this ever. In the otherwise pseudo feminist world where women are at times worshiped over a man in the name of Women Empowerment, there was this powerful dialogue by RKB which exactly summed up how exactly a relationship between a man n a woman should be...equal n balanced, neither dominated by the man nor by the women. Yes, its not easy to be a man...but it's not understood by most of the females because men don't express n that's the conclusion of this whole issue!
<font size="2">This rant is just to vent out my frustration over the SHAGUN in yhm! Though this is very much against the actress as well, but it is not to offend her on personal levels, this is only about her unjustified presence in the show...no intentions to break any Forum rules, if I m...I m not aware of them actually!</font>
<font size="2">Since the earthquake scene happened n Adi refused to accept her as his mother. The purpose of Shagun in yhm was ideally over. But still, considering AH to be the bestie of the producer and Shagun to be supposedly one of the pivotal characters in the show n according to some delusionals, yhm being a show about the story of Shagun-Raman-Ishita, I still tried to accept her role further. In the name of redeeming her, they showed the most atrocious tracks like Surrogacy and Bhoot track, I hated them but still accepted thinking this might be the closure required for her character...but that never happened. Then happened the 7 years leap n they showcased her as mother of Pihu, I seriously hated to see that, but I accepted that thinking they are trying to create the reversal of initial plot of yhm with Ishita n Shagun in the opposite places. Later Shagun again changed her colours n honestly I liked it better to digest her in negative shade than the safedi ki chamkaar that she was. Though exaggerated, but her role in Australia trip was important n required. After all these atrocities, she was again turned positive because they wanted to make her the mumma dearest of Alia n thereby the samdhan of IshRa n complicate the relationships n create a bigger mess out of them to create some disgusting drama, that's what they have an expertise in, after all. Then in Budapest too, she was not at all required, but since she didn't hamper unnecessary screen-space, I didn't mind her presence at all. All this was acceptable, though with high hatred, because she had some role in the on-going tracks.</font>
<font size="2">But since they have returned from Budapest, she clearly had no role in yhm. Specially in the last month or two, she was not even seen on-screen. (No complaints about that) But suddenly, when London was about to happen, all her web-series n other shows n modeling n BagTalk n whatever else she does was wrapped up n madam makes a sudden appearance in yhm out of nowhere. Not only appears, but tries to grab as much limelight as she can. Then it doesn't matter if she has any relevance in the story, if there is any valid reason for her presence in a particular scene, nothing.</font>
<font size="2">Had they given her as much role as in Budapest, I really wouldn't mind accepting her "NGO Felicitation excuse as well. But what the hell did they show in today's episode!</font>
<font size="2">Raman was visibly upset about their arrival in yesterday's episode...but she didn't even let him complete his sentence n was like its no big deal, he should rather make her meet Ishita asap.</font>
<font size="2">Raman clearly said how they have ruined his honeymoon plans, but the lady had no remorse, she was all the more happy to go with them, not even for the sake of formality she refused once...as if for her only the castle is booked. Others are still his family...who the hell is she! How mannerless it is of her to intrude someone's honeymoon, precisely ur ex-husband's. Anybody intrudes her honeymoon with her darling husband n she'll scream her lungs out saying ya'll ruined my honeymoon. That disgusting smile n awful expressions of excitement on AH's face!</font>
<font size="2">Everybody else came to the castle in other car n this shameless b*tch intrudes IshRa's car as well. At least give them some privacy in the car for God's sake!</font>
<font size="2">Ishita's husband is busy in clicking the sefies n this neik of a lady understand Ishita's mood n cares for her...wow!</font>
<font size="2">Then she throws her tantrums again when everybody was excited to play the Ouija board game n grabs as much attention as she can from others...everybody pleads her n then madam agrees. Thanking my stars, she didn't sit between IshRa.</font>
<font size="2">She even gets touchy with Ishita when her own husband is checking her neck...aww such a caring lady</font>
<font size="2">N since then, thousand times she only says hume tumpe yakeen hai...she kneels down at Ishita's feet as the rest of her own family stands behind...as if she cares for Ishita the most</font>
<font size="2">First thing in the morning she does is thinks about only n only Ishita</font>
<font size="2">She understands Ishita the best, she explains Raman how he should treat his wife, she is worried for her more than him</font>
<font size="2">N she obviously has to know the girl concerned...through her never seen NGO work obviously!</font>
<font size="2">So much importance to this less than a sidey character...n that too at the cost of compromising the character of the male lead n chopping out some beautiful scenes between the actual lead couple of the show! Slow claps; cvs, producer n the actress. Hats off to ur shameless, unprofessional n spineless behaviour time n again...ya'll are unmatched in this! I wish u all the very best, Anita, for ur very bright career, I wish u get many other big projects of ur own n u never need yhm, so that we don't have to see this forced Shagun</font>
I guess at least in this thread, mostly nobody is irked due to Raman's anger. Yes he was little insensitive the way he expressed his anger, but we accept it because Raman is a non-believer in paranormal things n he himself isn't recovered yet. He just should have been careful with his words.N about Shagun, u r right...we already know all the facts about her role n we have also accepted that...but when it happens during the supposed honeymoon of IshRa, it is bound to frustrate all when people are made to hope for something better by the cvs n actors themselves. For more reasons, u can read my detailed post on page 16 I guess, u'll know y we are so irked. Nobody is breaking the heads, cuz u r right, its no use...but the irritation is justified, isn't it? All are just venting their irritation out, that's it.