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bscorp13

@bscorp13

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+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#41

Very true Priya..many of these were our interpretations from the promo..about hearing or seeing her..but what they have shown in the last 3 days is a far deeper bond and more realistic..he doesn't really need to see or hear her...or show some thing cliche..he still.senses her...the proof of it are his actions...

And no..cvs have been kind enough to also tell us 'loud and clear '..through ishita herself 😆...we clearly are not 'imagining ' stuff😆.that Raman senses her ...and his equation with her is deeper than ppl can understand...if ppl still don't want to listen and nitpick...their loss...😆🤢

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Pooja

@eclipse123

Voyager

Posted: 7 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: bscorp13

Btw what was chuha 2's profession😕..he was some musician no😕😆...and he was in Australia na before he came to India and met aliya...😆..yes might have been in National geographic in Australia 😆

The truth is i don't know Pb, what was his profession😆,i thought he is a jobless person like mamma because i heard ishita lecture ruhi that chuha is jobless so for now they two can't get mitra maa's daughter custody blah blah blah...😆whenever chuha & chuhi came on my screen either i muted the scene or fast forwarded it.The only scene i saw of these two doofus is when these two had a combination scene with divan comes😆😆.So, really i don't know what this chuha was doing.Is he was a musician😲?Oh,so the rockstar ruhi & the musician chuha is jodi made in heaven only😛.The main reason i muted chuha-chuhi love story was...,first i don't care about these people's love story 😆because i only want to see saas-sasur luv story😳 second i can't stand chuhi's attitude & chuha's sleepy face🥱.The only details i know about him is he is aliya's Australian friend & he is the one who was accusing raman for shani's murder😡.

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gargpoo

@gargpoo

Sparkler

Posted: 7 years ago

#43

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

@bold - Poo, the promo was never misleading in my opinion. The promo just had every one crying bitterly, Ishita calling out to Raman saying she is alive and asking him to save her. Raman ran to the place and was shocked. There was no indication that Raman is going to hear her voice and save her. Him "hearing her" out is quite unrealistic and the way the CVs took is a better, practical approach. This is what "hearing her out" in practical sense means to me and I appreciate CVs for this.

I guess even after the promo was out, @ishitaruhi raised this question two days back about "hearing her out" being quite filmy and how it would happen. We were discussing that "hearing her" out might not be in literal sense, but it is just him not coming to terms with it and trying to investigate on things that would ultimately make him believe that she might be alive and rush to the cremation ground. I would prefer this reactions and actions of Raman over getting flashes of Ishita trying to recollect what she means to him, him unable to figure out anything, sitting grim or having an attack, because he tried hard to recollect those moments.

I don't understand the comparison with Pihu's kidnapping that is made. Even for Pihu, he did not recollect her being his daughter. He just had flashes of her and then he accepted to Pihu being his daughter when he was told by people. When did he completely start remembering Pihu?😕. Did I miss out anything?😲😕

But yes, there was no moment between AdiRuHu and Raman, where the kids are deeply saddened by the situation and the condition their father is in, considering that even the great Ruhi always wanted to lead a life like her parents and wanted her relationship with Nikhil to be on those lines. That was disappointing.

@red - True, that is where it is leading,him believing Ishita cannot harm anyone and that belief turning in to the trust he would have on Ishita, going forward, where the setback for Param and Simmi starts.
But then, knowing certain things by now, I am confident that there would be interpretations saying that even in the memory loss state, Raman needs Ishita to endanger her life to have him trust her against his family, blah blah blah😆. It would be fun. Wait and watch. 😆🥱

yes priya, promo ws not misleading it ws what they r showing she calling for help n raman reaching there ..it ws us who thinking they r going the filmy way he hearing her voice bt after fri epi we discussed it might not b 'actual hearing' bt feeling ..even hotstar headline ws raman struggling to accept her death ..!!

Yes i m happy too they r going practical way and this making it more beautiful ..RaAMAN is the only one who is not accepting the death,investigating n ultimately saving her that too without hearing or recollecting her as his wife bcs his heart is connected to her .

Yes he having attacks or fbs or going berserk wud not let emerge the smart RKB.

Ohh he nvr remembered pihu bt wen he got the positive reply he agreed thats y even after confirming he ws confused and having hazy fbs .not a single time he got the clr picture ...

He started believing ishita cant harm kid BEFORE ishita saving pihu or risking her life the 'consoling' scene proved that ...

The moment he saw ishita loves his daughter he stooped listening simmi's crap wen she was continously provoking him ..he preffered searching pihu,consoling ishita promising her too bring back pihu for her and worrying abt her health ..he started seeing the real ishita that time ..

Wen he first met her he starting falling for her he nvr thought or said anything wrong even after simmi telling him she killed ananya had no grt effect nxt day he just wanted to cancel deal n get away from her no accusations or blames bt ishita's plan (insulting on national tv,bring mahila morcha,and bring police though purpose was something else) did a damage that wen he started thinking otherwise what he ws thinking before

One more point will not b discussed ..he left his unconcious daughter to search ishita n now too he still hanging around stopping atopsy consoling her parents investigating who investor/neighbour does that ??? Y he just go back to his daughter who just came back from kidnapper 😕

I hv nvr seen an investor/neighbour asking a dead person to come back for me,y i m feeling pain ,y i m feeling like a part of me is lost 😕

Ohh come on, dont worry some have decided they will nvr ever accept raman come what may so now even cvs cant help it if ppl cant appreciate budapest track and this raman saving ishita 😆

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Pooja

@eclipse123

Voyager

Posted: 7 years ago

#44

It's true that physiologist says that the unconscious mind is the storehouse of all memories & past experiences,both those that have been repressed through trauma & those have simply been consciously forgotten & no longer important to us.It's from these memories & experiences that our beliefs,habits,& behaviors are formed.The ishra we seen for the past few days are the best example for this theory.Because whatever they know in their unconscious mind which they didn't voice out in their conscious mind was voice out/shown us through their actions by both ishra now. Raman that man can only identify/feel the connection with the two people in his life by his own(others are the input by simmi only🥱) they are pihu & ishita because in his unconscious mind he knows whom loved or cared about him truly.So by the past behavior,experience from others & the trauma he gone through all played a role why he consciously forgotten others & only feel the connection with these two.In his unconscious mind he knows the only persons who cared & who loved him for himself is ishpi,that's why the tablet also can't fully repressed their memory from his mind because he is trying hard to stop the effect of that medicine to stop him from forgetting them.I think that's why he could feel an instant connection with ishpi but not with adiru or others.It's true he love all his children(equally) & family but his unconscious mind know what all each people did to him,what all he gone through so his mind is trying to avoid the same thing to happen once more,so he is consciously forgetting others or can say without a battle he is indulging in the effect of the medicine.May be that's why he doesn't feel any connection with adiru or others.Its true he started to love ruhi fully because of ishita,ofcourse he loved his daughter for what she is but after ishita came into their life only he started to show his love to her.because he started to see ishita in ruhi not any bad memory named shagun.So,ruhi is ishita's reflection to him.That's why he started to feel a connection with ruhi after ishita came into picture now.

About ishita,whatever she said two days back about she knows raman can only feel about her feelings her heartbeat etc..will not be said by this ishita in her conscious mind of course she know he loves her,he cared her & all.But,its her unconscious mind where she knows the only person who cared about her & who loved her truly with all in himself is raman.That's why after all his tantrums,all his bad words in first leap she came back to him only because she know whatever anger side he has but he loves her truly & at the end of the day he will be the only one who will care about her,love her for herself & she knows whatever he is telling in his anger is not the truth it's just a split second words that she can ignore it because his love for her is above all this & compared to his love his anger is nothing for her.Two days back directly her unconscious mind was speaking where it knows he is the only one who can feel her pain,& that's the truth because he is the only one who felt her pain.At that time we saw the ishita who thought about herself &her raman only where she didn't ask how will her children live without her but we saw the ishita who only want to live that too with the love of her life,she wanted to live for only raman.So,it's proved that whatever they say in their conscious state about ruhi ka liy ya kisi aur kaliya doesn't matters because they proved loud & clear now what is the actual truth of their relation.So,the jagatmata ishita & the janwar raman is only a facade but in real the only people exist is Ishita' Raman & Raman's Ishita..PERIOD!

P.S I don't know if i made any sense😆,what ever i thought,wrote it...!

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Priya

@priyadarshini.r

Rocker

Posted: 7 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: bscorp13
Very true Priya..many of these were our interpretations from the promo..about hearing or seeing her..but what they have shown in the last 3 days is a far deeper bond and more realistic..he doesn't really need to see or hear her...or show some thing cliche..he still.senses her...the proof of it are his actions...

And no..cvs have been kind enough to also tell us 'loud and clear '..through ishita herself 😆...we clearly are not 'imagining ' stuff😆.that Raman senses her ...and his equation with her is deeper than ppl can understand...if ppl still don't want to listen and nitpick...their loss...😆🤢

Why would it be a loss, if the whole intention seems to about nitpicking him for everything he says and does Pb?🥱. Whatever he does will be a problem, whatever he does not do will be a problem. Nothing can be done to satisfy this particular section of audiences who keep complaining for anything and everything.😕

I don't think the intention is to observe any of his actions & reactions to the whole thing, the exact premise etc but to have a microscope and look solely for what he did, what he did not do and label him as a failure using any lame blame.

Anyways, MAJORITY OF THE VIEWERS, seem to be receptive of this track, for keeping it SOLELY focusing on IshRa and strengthening their relationship. It is definitely more realistic than the earlier buls**ts 🤢 that were dished out . I mean, for me, even the explanation that the doctor gave for the medicines Raman is taking and the condition he is in, was realistic and the doctor did a pretty decent job in explaining it as well .

Similarly never in my dreams I thought, Sandeep Sickand can come up with something realistic like blue corol snake venom, its consequences on the bite victim and why is Ishita in this condition. Looks like her condition without heartbeat is possible because the neural functions of the body, rhythmic functions of the heart, all become inactive and makes a person frozen with only his/her mind active. This poison does not immediately kill the patient, but gives them slow death. This is what I read in an article and Ishita is exactly in that condition. I read that it is relatively difficult to observe and say if a bite victim is dead or not, unless he/she is medically observed for a longer duration. Most importantly, Raman saving Ishita because of the scientific lab report and rushing with a hope that she might be alive, to give the proper treatment is very very realistic than the "supernatural" things like him alone hearing her voice etc 🤓. Yes, how she is going to be treated is something to watch out for. But, it is actually hard to believe all these coming from YHM CVs, who have dished out illogical stuffs like stealing eggs for surrogacy, playing bhooth bhooth, walking on fire, coming out unharmed, crocodile attack where crocodile gets killed and the FL emerges victorious and all such nonsense 🥱🤢. This one is more real, more relatable to both IshRa as characters and also something we were looking ever since the first leap, where we badly wanted them to understand, revive their relationship afresh and start all over again. The CVs have to be appreciated for that aspect and keeping the focus on these two. So what if it has certain drama or exaggerations added to it? Atleast the whole track is not a crap or OTT. exaggerations in comparison to the earlier craps? 😕😆

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anithams

@anithams

Explorer

Posted: 7 years ago

#46

May be there are some antidotes available for this venom also which injected in her may revive her in a period of time. Lets see what CV's have researched for that too.

May be based on this venom staying in her body for a long time, she may have some side effects also.

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Priya

@priyadarshini.r

Rocker

Posted: 7 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: anithams
May be there are some antidotes available for this venom also which injected in her may revive her in a period of time. Lets see what CV's have researched for that too.
May be based on this venom staying in her body for a long time, she may have some side effects also.

Yes, if Sickand has made an effort to research on the venom, its effects , he would have definitely made an effort on how Ishita is going to be treated as well. I mean, the treatment to this can be even under research, but then that research can be used in a fictional show to revive her as well. There can be some emotional quotient that might be added to it from Raman's side as well, but that should be fine I guess. Yes, side effects possible, because the venom has paralyzed her for quite long time and how far has it spread and what parts has been affected we never know. Hope they keep it realistic on that front too, rather than Ishita returning back in a couple of days time, all fine and ready to be burdened with responsibilities🤔. If they are showing so, they can atleast show a short leap of 15-20 days, before showing the Christmas party and other stuffs.😕. Let us see

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zohakhan7

@zohakhan7

Trailblazer

+ 10

Posted: 7 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: eclipse123
From where did this chuha nikhil got coral snake venom😳?And when did he become this much intelligent😲?May be he was working with national geography channel for two years😆😆

Pooja may be he was working with Animal Planet channel 😆

After all kudh bhi to Godzilla hai yeh lafanga 🥱😆

Edited by zohakhan7 - 7 years ago

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kras

@kras

Rocker

Posted: 7 years ago

#49

Upcoming ishra scene

In hospital (precap of Monday in SA)

Raman said there are lots of people around me but i don't remember my relationship with anyone but you are someone whom i don't have any relationship with

But still it's just you whom i remember the way you made me and my daughter reunite i thought u will help me to get my memory back

But now u r a lifeless body and i am all alone

Ishita monologue raman if only i could stand in front of you now

I had no idea that you had such feeling for me

Raman continuous actually even i m lifeless the only difference is that i m still breathing