IT AIN'T EASY HON... 9/2/17.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Missed me..😆😆😆...sorry didn't want to disappoint anyone...as if I will miss it...😛😆but extremely sorry for the delay...was very busy...I just watched it..so here we go..

Ishru

Best mother daughter convo ...Nicely worderded...the best..to me as a stand alone.

I felt it was more of ishu than ruhi..after all the reality check, her present and past experiences ...to inform ruhi the circumstances which led her to marry her dad, is very different from hers, who is still at a threshold of her life. Even at this age and after being married to her dad for so long is still struggling and finding it harder as his past is still very much on her face and dictates her/ their life/ her every move. It is very clear she's grateful to Raman for marrying her and giving her the status of his wife and gifting her a wonderful family. She is happy with whatever he's given her. She said life was never easy it was very very hard for her and asked ruhi if she's ready for this...as no amount of experience will prepare her for what's coming up. Her talk on the moments/happiness/ yaddein... will never leave and can never be forgotten and the first love...makes me wonder...is this the reason she didn't react when raman was with shagun when she miscarried?.. their dance?..being a doormat?..submissive?..as she's accepted the fact that no matter what Shagun will always take precedence?!..and that's how it will always be?!...I think so...And there's nothing she can do to erase that. We rarely see her open up this much. Now I'm sure why she does all this over compensation...she wants to contribute something to the family...so that she can find a place for herself in the family and in ramans life, as that's all she can ever give...so she does and pulls all kinds of stunts..even putting her life on line innumerable times just to carve a place for herself and most of all acceptance. She doesn't have expectations from him...but just goes with the flow...cvs sealed the deal by making ishita say...first love, memories, past..that shagun will always be an integral part in their life. She's accepted that she's the 2nd choice and will always remain that way.

She tried her best by repeatedly telling ruhi..it's not easy as you think, nothing will prepare you for the reality, it's not rosy...etc etc...but after all this..ruhi was sure she loved him, but unsure of her future or what's in store...said ok ...she will support her, which shocked me, but realized she knows she will need it when she breaks apart. Having said that, Wish she persuaded her to take a step back and spoke about the age difference between her and ruhi when she made the choice, and she has a whole life ahead of her. A bit assertive with her.

Bear in mind...These 2 are not aware of the existence of the kid or her age...and it's Ria. But could've easily done the math ...but then again...not confirmed of the existence of the child.

Ruhi...I did see a tad maturity...the scene where she said I want to give it a try, she's trying to understand but finds it hard, unsure of the future...all these ..her questioning herself...that's the maturity I was looking for...but loves him..and is confused how to handle it. This level of thought process is maturity..imo...I think only after this ishu kept repeating it over and over again, how hard or complicated it really is, how strenuous / impossible the path is..if she has the strength to face it ...she tried again to convince her to rethink...then she respected her wish...but ishu kept looking at ruhi...wondering if this girl can really face it? by embarking on this relationship?

But here's the thing...knowing very well the trouble you're getting into..knowing you are stepping into a pond with crocodiles...putting you're life in danger/ risk ...is it worth it?

Yes ishita is soft and lenient...but this change makes me wonder ..ok are they setting up a stage to prove Raman has been right all along?..stepmother...a bad mother?...unfit mother? ..possible...or is she again On the butcher block?

Or are cvs going to show the growth in Ishra character by raman joining the Bandwagon and being there for a Ruhi by being there for,her?

Is this why we had ishu say ...papa has to understand..he will, he knows what it is ..about marrying a divorce, loosing his first love, being away from kids..if raman doesn't understand who else will?...oh yeah...this is clear indication Ishra will be there for a Ruhi...whatever it maybe there is truth in this, as raman did undergo all this..

Raman...he clearly doesn't want ishu to meddle in others life. He wants to live his life..he wants kids to et go of ishita ..ishima ka Pallu ko choddo, does this mean he wants ruhi to make her own decisions? ...yes he will be shocked ...but he will give in...and will never say I told you so...but offer solid support for ruhi during the time of need, as you don't isolate/abandon your kids..but stand by them, be there for them, no matter what mistake/ blunder they make..its going to be tough..offer advice guide her...that's what she needs now and she will need all the support of her parents and family...as they are ones who will stand by her no matter what she does...to pick up the pieces.

I felt ishus emotions was very raw..

The whole scene was well written, and enacted by the duo.The beautiful heartfelt convo between them...DT was fab there...

Mistakes...making nikhil a father of an 8/9 year old daughter..uncle would've been digestible. Ruhi a teen, 18/19 year old...a step mom ( if married to nikhil)... to a girl who is only a decade younger to her. Ishraru can never be Nikruri/ ruhilri/rirunik or whatever. Teen marrying a man .,a father of a 8/9 year old...when the father is in mid to late 20's is the problem. Maybe if ruhi was in early 20's we might have seen it differently. Ishu delaying...

I'm not interested to see a teen wedding for a custody ...I would rather see a break up and ruhi doing something constructive in her life.

DT looked very pretty ..loved her hair

I don't get why miku is still there ...why is the actress not let go..when there's nothing left for her in YHM..

Ishra scene was nice...hoping ishu comes clean with raman ...no more delay..

Hoping Ishra convince ruhi to let everything go, offer guidance and support, and not encourage wedding. I doubt if they will proceed with ruhis marriage.

Kp and his one liners...nice

Recreation of ishraru with ishrapi...not the same...nope..not happening...as I never saw ishpi bond or Ishrapi bond...

This is strictly my pov..how I saw the scene...no offense meant to anyone .

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ruhi does s convinced of this relationship being right because of ishu having been in a similar situation.
Ruhi has conveniently taken ishu's help just as Adi had taken romi's help in remarrying after dumping the old disagreeable marriage.
Ishu too seemed to get carried away by her own similar past that she forgets that ishra marriage n how it worked were simply one in a million possibility .
It's not just Raman.
There is a reason a concept of joint family exists.
There are more ppl to think about Ruhi's future clearly.
This show depicts a joint family situation.
Now where is Nikhil's family?
If he has made a mistake in encouraging Ruhi ,he too has not thought about Ruhi's family.
I'm sorry to say ishu is doing wrong in supporting Ruhi here by drawing comparison with her own case.
A responsible mom will give precedence to her daughter's future.
Hence ishu can tell Ruhi to take time,concentrate on her studies,turn atleast 23 before deciding to further her relationship with Nikhil.
That's being understanding n respecting a grown up daughter's decision making.
I feel this is where ruhi will jump ship n take mihika' advice regarding this soon.
Being the mom of a grown up daughter myself I understand how arrogant they can get with their decisions.
It's the duty of their parents to think wisely,treat them as friends n carefully guide them through the right path.
I hope ishu too has some legitimate reason to make Ruhi believe that her path is clear n not let her take any hasty decisions.
It IS a delicate issue.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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The main concern in this whole ruhi's love saga is her age...she is too young to even get married forget becoming a step mother to a 10 year old girl.
As per logic and our knowledge ruhi is not even 18 though the CVs might show her of any age as per their convenience to justify her marriage at any stage.

In real life no parent will want their daughter to marry a divorcee with kid from previous marriage...i am sure had ishita not been infertile even iyer's wouldn't have married her to guy who is divorcee with two grown up children.

adi at 24...ruhi at 18...then pihu will want to marry at 12 if it follows the AP series😆


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Maya 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ramishi

The main concern in this whole ruhi's love saga is her age...she is too young to even get married forget becoming a step mother to a 10 year old girl.

As per logic and our knowledge ruhi is not even 18 though the CVs might show her of any age as per their convenience to justify her marriage at any stage.

In real life no parent will want their daughter to marry a divorcee with kid from previous marriage...i am sure had ishita not been infertile even iyer's wouldn't have married her to guy who is divorcee with two grown up children.

adi at 24...ruhi at 18...then pihu will want to marry at 12 if it follows the AP series😆




The age is the major factor ..
Had ruhi been in her early to mid 20's.. we can think about it... she's an adult abd knowingly getting into this relationship. After the talk ... had Ishu been a bit assertive .. this bit meaning if she can't be that assertive..diverted her to something else .. or been silent .. and immediately informing Raman ..and asking him to talk to his daughter .. would've made it much better.
The support I'm talking about is, if and when her heart breaks.. which might happen.. she will need her parents suport.
You rightly said about iyers... and ishus medical condition, they would not have accepted this proposal
At all.
As you said when Adi wanted to marry at 23/24... as parent/step parent..should've adviced him to achieve something in life abd 24 is too young fir a male to get married.. but they ended up going ahead..
On the whole ishra are failures... hope they don't agree to the marriage but guide that kid..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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hi viji Di
how are u ??
honestly even I liked the ishru scene only becoz of how ishu spoke for the first time about her views on her relationship with Raman
it was raw and mature
brilliantly done by DT
but I can't buy it becoz ruhi is too young for a relationship with a divorced guy or even for parenting a child which I can say becoz I'm myself 19 years old
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: GBSC

Ruhi does s convinced of this relationship being right because of ishu having been in a similar situation.
Ruhi has conveniently taken ishu's help just as Adi had taken romi's help in remarrying after dumping the old disagreeable marriage.
Ishu too seemed to get carried away by her own similar past that she forgets that ishra marriage n how it worked were simply one in a million possibility .
It's not just Raman.
There is a reason a concept of joint family exists.
There are more ppl to think about Ruhi's future clearly.
This show depicts a joint family situation.
Now where is Nikhil's family?
If he has made a mistake in encouraging Ruhi ,he too has not thought about Ruhi's family.
I'm sorry to say ishu is doing wrong in supporting Ruhi here by drawing comparison with her own case.
A responsible mom will give precedence to her daughter's future.
Hence ishu can tell Ruhi to take time,concentrate on her studies,turn atleast 23 before deciding to further her relationship with Nikhil.
That's being understanding n respecting a grown up daughter's decision making.
I feel this is where ruhi will jump ship n take mihika' advice regarding this soon.
Being the mom of a grown up daughter myself I understand how arrogant they can get with their decisions.
It's the duty of their parents to think wisely,treat them as friends n carefully guide them through the right path.

I hope ishu too has some legitimate reason to make Ruhi believe that her path is clear n not let her take any hasty decisions.
It IS a delicate issue.


Yes ruhi is convinced ...she thinks this is it..I've found me love...coz of the similarity in the situation...but she forgot the age when ishuta and Raman agreed to marry..both matured individuals.
More than help...she convinced her...had ishu said...I understand all this...but this can take a back seat for now and convinced her back..it would've been better. Ishu kept telling her over and over again..she is the best example..and trust me kids understand well...but got carried away when ruhi referred them...that's where ishu should've intervened...but to make her feel better said...you will receive more love...that's the slip...it maybe right...but it came as encouragement..that's the mistake,
Once the dad comes to know ...as. Parents or raman being the dad...could've discussed with the family.
I'm not saying ishu is right...she is wrong...that's why I said I was shocked...coz I didn't expect that...it's the duty of the parents to guide their kids.

@bold...I have 2 grown up daughters myself...I'm very friendly with them, given them freedom...at the same time made it very clear what's acceptable and what is not, set the parameters...I've given them freedom to speak,, spoken to them about relationships.etc.,..and offered guidance as a mom and jointly with my husband as parents. Yup they can be as stubborn as a mule...and drive you up,the wall..to,them thy know everything and are always right, and the arrogance., the rebellious nature...the more you become authoritative..the more they will rebel...trust me as parents we need lots of patience and perseverance ..in fact I've learnt a lot...and talking to them, understanding them, giving examples..coming down to their level,...works..most of all making them think works...

Nice to know you have a grown up daughter...I'm sure you've done a fab job of raising her.

@ italics...more than legitimate reason...now ishu should guide her and mould her...now is the time...she cane make her see things very clearly and make her rethink her decision.

It's a very delicate situation...and handled cautiously
Lets c ...but ..I have a feeling ishu will be butchered and made unrecognizable just likemraman during surrogacy...or both Ishra will be butchered...



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: DikshaN

hi viji Di
how are u ??
honestly even I liked the ishru scene only becoz of how ishu spoke for the first time about her views on her relationship with Raman
it was raw and mature
brilliantly done by DT
but I can't buy it becoz ruhi is too young for a relationship with a divorced guy or even for parenting a child which I can say becoz I'm myself 19 years old


Hi hon
How are you?.. it's been a long time...
Yes this is the first time she voiced about her hardships in this marruage...we never saw that...it was mire if her than ruhi...that's how I saw the scene.
I wish raman overheard this...
You are right it was mature and brilliantly done by DT..I was blown away.
I understand what you are saying...but ruhi is a matured kid...yes she's behaved irresponsibly at times. Even adults do at times...I'm not supporting ruhi or ishu..but just stating the fact...she is the witness to their journey...she knows what they went through...so ishu thought,,ok ..maybe she might understand much better ...hence took a chance. Marrying a divorce is not acrime...but the age is the problem..too young for relationships ..you are right.
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Thanks for the review Viji!!!

The episode bothered me so much that I am still unable to wrap my head around it. Two questions have been bothering me more than anything. I am not really worried about Ruhi being 18 and wanting to marry and settle down. It's CVS non-creativity, that they can't think beyond marriage and at this rate we may even see Pihu also getting married in another year or two and their message is clear that with marriage comes problems and with problems and tears the TRPs. Good luck to that thought.

The first thought that bothered me was; where is Shagun "the main lead" without whom the plot can't be moved at all. How she will fit in the new love story of Ruhi and Nikhil? And how things will shape up when she makes an appearance? Will she and her soul mate Raman that is two bodies but one thought process, one word, and on the same page when it comes to abusing and questioning Ishita the "Sauteli ma regarding parenting?

The second thought is how stupid and dumb Ishita became that she is failing to see what kind of marriage her daughter (I will say her daughter until Ruhi disowns her once again) wanting to embrace? When Ishita married Raman for Ruhi she not only married Raman, but his past and his first love, his ex-wife with whom he could never ever move on, their kids, their memories, and the concept of Sharam again that is "two bodies but one thought process, one word, and on the same page when it comes to abusing and questioning Ishita the "Sauteli ma?. She could never, ever be Raman's choice of woman, who couldn't even consummate their marriage without have Shagun shadow overcasting, couldn't have a kid without Shagun and Raman together betraying Ishita through surrogacy, couldn't ever have Raman standing for Ishita nor supporting her in however short marriage she had with him. And now she wants that same fate for her daughter too? What was she thinking?

Unless Ishita completely detached herself from Raman and kids and want to teach Raman a lesson through Ruhi for the life she was handed over by Raman and for all the suffering she had to go through with both Raman and Shagun delivering the deadly blows together. (this is crazy me thinking :-D).. this whole Ruhi and her love story sounds disgusting.

The crappy show is getting crappier every day.

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Originally posted by: Lacustris

Thanks for the review Viji!!!

The episode bothered me so much that I am still unable to wrap my head around it. Two questions have been bothering me more than anything. I am not really worried about Ruhi being 18 and wanting to marry and settle down. It's CVS non-creativity, that they can't think beyond marriage and at this rate we may even see Pihu also getting married in another year or two and their message is clear that with marriage comes problems and with problems and tears the TRPs. Good luck to that thought.

The first thought that bothered me was; where is Shagun "the main lead" without whom the plot can't be moved at all. How she will fit in the new love story of Ruhi and Nikhil? And how things will shape up when she makes an appearance? Will she and her soul mate Raman that is two bodies but one thought process, one word, and on the same page when it comes to abusing and questioning Ishita the "Sauteli ma regarding parenting?

The second thought is how stupid and dumb Ishita became that she is failing to see what kind of marriage her daughter (I will say her daughter until Ruhi disowns her once again) wanting to embrace? When Ishita married Raman for Ruhi she not only married Raman, but his past and his first love, his ex-wife with whom he could never ever move on, their kids, their memories, and the concept of Sharam again that is "two bodies but one thought process, one word, and on the same page when it comes to abusing and questioning Ishita the "Sauteli ma?. She could never, ever be Raman's choice of woman, who couldn't even consummate their marriage without have Shagun shadow overcasting, couldn't have a kid without Shagun and Raman together betraying Ishita through surrogacy, couldn't ever have Raman standing for Ishita nor supporting her in however short marriage she had with him. And now she wants that same fate for her daughter too? What was she thinking?

Unless Ishita completely detached herself from Raman and kids and want to teach Raman a lesson through Ruhi for the life she was handed over by Raman and for all the suffering she had to go through with both Raman and Shagun delivering the deadly blows together. (this is crazy me thinking :-D).. this whole Ruhi and her love story sounds disgusting.

The crappy show is getting crappier every day.

Hi Raji...🤗
@ bold..👍🏼
,,that's what I don't get..why should it be about marriage all the time..that too for people who are starting their life..early marriage ...child marriage..

Raji shagun will come in picture soon right after Mumbai trip..infact pics are already out on insta...
So it remains to be seen the extent and the influence she will have...parenting will discussed...the only thing we have to see is the reaction...that's al I'm going to say..

Ishita ..in simple words...she was emotionally influenced ...thus clouded her judgment...and that that stage..you make faults...that's what happened..imo...and that's what I saw.

@ pink..i wish this is shown..so the whole family will know what this woman had to put up with and still is doing it...but she will not do it...that woman is insanely in love with him.
If ruhi opens up and pours it down in front of the family...how much ishuta had sacrificed...none will get it...dads will understand much better when their daughter goes thru the same situation...
Lets c.
Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to post your 2 cents.

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