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Mdwst

@Mdwst

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Posted: 8 years ago

The dinner

Ishita is shattered..talks more..He is mad as the whole dinner was planned for her

Ishuta is more shattered .. everything was planned for her to accept his apology

(To her it's not from his heart...the apology part...it's not an heartfelt apology where he realized what he said..and deeply her hurt is)..

Ishita apologizes to them..and says they are noT together and not an ideal couple..

He says he only wants to apologize and why is she bowing this out of proportions

( he had not understood it at all...to him it's nothing it's normal between couples)

Ishita says lets end it here ..

She leaves...and raman tries to stop her..

At the parking lot

Ishita reaches home in a cab..and Raman says whatever he said there was true.,and he loves her a lot..I'm sorry..( yes he loves her..and she knows that)..

Ishita ..so you are guilty, how long will it last? a week.?A day ?or a second? I'm not convinced of your guilt.

Raman is very nonchalant and (to him it's not a big deal..these things happen between a couple..he did in understand the pain and hurt he has caused her)..he's annoyed...I know you love me, the feelings is mutual..just don't create drama...just accept my apology

I..you don't understand do you? what I have to take...you get angry, you yell, you don't know what you're saying, you are disrespecting me, in private and in public and you are questioning my motherhood..my love for the children.i can't take it anymore...just leave me alone...and she tries to leave

Raman holders her her arm ...that's enough, so I'm at fault and not you?

I..everybody makes mistakes ..but you have no control..and reminds him the way he's holding her..in a public place..and people are watching ..you have no respect for your wife and the kids..see the way you behave in front of the kids..you yell and create a scene..so I don't want my kids to be brought up in that environment ..and I don't want my kids to get influenced by you and leaves.

(To raman this doesn't makes any sense as it's irrelevant...)and says strange woman...

Ishita-Appa

Ishita comes home and appa sees her stressed and disturbed ..(the bang on the door with her fist...her frustration ..that nuance... wow)...she hides it and starts thinking of her dad...and tells him not so worry about her.

She hides it from her dad...

Appa... im worried for you...you are my child

(Appa is trying to get her to open up..but she's not giving in )

Appa suggests coffee and praises it as it tastes exactly like her mother's and doesn't miss her.

Ishu understood and she's feeling guilty that coz of her her parents are living apart

Appa ...not to mistake him and asks her to consider her going back to raman...as none of them are happy, her, pihus, ruhi...what kind of life is this?

Bhallaji and Romi are supporting her which is good but is this necessary?

I..if I don't take a step...this will continue, today, tomorrow and forever..yes he promises he will not repeat..but he breaks it and the same pattern continues..I want to put an end to it..this cannot go on...I know the family is getting affected because of this and me...sometimes you got to do, what you got to do...as you said parents will always worry for their kids..so am I..and apologizes and leaves

Appas mono

Appa...I know you are doing this for Raman..that's what you are saying..but you are the one who's affected the most as you are away from him...with tears in his eyes...

Mono was very good..very good scene...this scene will move you to tears.

Ishita in bed and thinking of his ourbust ..fb's ...asking her to stay away from him and ruhi, their paths are different and will always stay that way...and doesn't need her help ..and the truck scene, the triskar scene, the scene before she left bhallas,

Then their dinner scene..the parking lot scene..

She's so restless and disturbed and receives a call it's raman..she doesn't pick up..but the call doesn't stop...Finally she picks up and talks to him

I..why are you calling me at this time of the night

Raman ..I don't care I want to talk to you, come out

Ishu knows he's drunk as a skunk

He wants to talk..but she doesn't want to as it's no use as he's drunk and will forget everything in the morning and says she will not come

Raman says if she doesn't he's gonna break the door.

Both are not giving up their stand

raman ... ok fine let me break the door

And he taps the door so ishu decides to meet him as he will wake up every one.

Raman is happy..I know you will come out..you love me...

She's out

He takes her by her hand and says..come lets go home.

I..what are you doing?

R..arey

I..how much did you drink anyways ..please go inside

R..I will not go with it you. Dont you know how much I love you?..I'm sorry , come on lets go

I..please go, you are drunk

R..I cannot live without you..so I'm drank

I..that's enough

R..I love you ..and hugs her..come lets go..

I..i understand..but please leave

He holds Her hand very tight that it hurts her..Bhallaji and Romi enter

And bhallaji slaps Raman..ishita is stunned...

All Bhallaji saw was his son trying to force his DIL/ daughter...

B..how dare you behave like that with her...good that she left you...

Raman..I want to talk to my wife

Bhallaji..stay in your limits

Romi intervenes...and he tries to take Raman away,,but raman want to talk to her...and ishita looks on..

And bhallaji sees the bruise in her hand and ishita assures him by shaking her head that she's fine. Bhallaji apologizes to her..ishita says please don't apologize ..he's not in his senses..and they leave.

In the morning

Toshiji gives fresh clothes to Bhallaji...they both take care of each.

So raman is going to receive an award..but is sad that he's unable to share it with ishita and kids...toshiji requests him to set everything aside at least for that evening..

( reasonable and understandable).. but Bhallaji feels that ishita might not accept it..not after what happened yesterday...toshiji asks him to try...Bhallaji says after seeing the way Raman behaved yesterday ..he doesn't want ishita to do anything for him...toshiji says at least the kids..

Ishita overhears this...

So shagun is pregnant...both are shocked...doctor confirmed without testing her blood ? (Just with symptoms? Wow..this woman doesn't know... Oh come on..she's had 3 kids for gods sake...anyways...)..doc says she may have pregnancy complications...(shagun and complications ..lol joke of the millennium..doc if only you knew the things she survived...)

Anyways...aaliya is excited ...but mani is unsure and says she's happy for him as now he has his own kid...man assures her that she will always she his kid...and aaliya give sthe pep talk to mani that he will be. A great dad...and shagun is happy overhearing all this...nice scene

(So this time it's a Raghav baby...the cycle of bhalla baby is finally broken...)

Precap

At the parking lot

Raman drunk has head on collision with another car...and the fight starts...physical altercation...ishita is seeing this

DT was fab

Kp ..was very good..

Best scene appas mono ..a tear jerker

Ishita has ended the relationship

The way she said mujse nahi hota...brilliant...

So appa and the award, and his behavior ..makes her to send the kids

Both can't live without each other..both are hurting.

So to answer yesterday's question is love enough?

To Raman...yes..love is everything...due to his past ...

To ishita ... yes and no..yes she wants love...but she also she wants respect, acceptance with her physical limitations and faults, affection, trust...unconditional love..

Overall...very good episode...very emotional

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Maya

@mayasun

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Posted: 8 years ago

Hi Viji,

I am loving the episodes.

CV are doing a brilliant job👏 they are brining back the subtleties of YHM 1 in both Ishita and Raman character. I hope they continue with this instead of losing their mind on Shagun once again.

Coming to the episodes:

Shagun is pregnant for the fourth time so the problem between Mani and Shagun is solved. 👏 Aliya gives a pep talk to Mani about the kid and she is excited for the kid to come.

Ishita is hurt and she shows Divya the book which has nothing on it. Divya says to her its empty Ishita says to her my husband is like that he talks more but does less Raman gets mad he says to her I apologized I planned this dinner and stops in the middle realizing what he said Ishita is more hurt by his words she forgot even two people are sitting opposite to them and says to him you planned it so all those words did not come from your heart (DT expression and voice modulation, hesitancy in speaking- she portrayed a woman who is hurt beyond her capabilities to withheld the hurt inside her was super👏👏👏) I am sorry Raman whatever you try I am not coming back to the house. She turns to Divya and say sorry to her and ACP. She says to them that he was trying to do something but leaves in the middle Raman expression shows he is hurt with her words. Ishita then tells that they are not ideal couple their marriage is not what it looks like from the outside they are separated Raman is angry now and says to her stop it Ishita I am apologizing why are you making it a big issues come back home he has an annoyed expression. Ishita is super pissed because of his attitude and says to him end it here and says sorry to ACP/Divya and walks out Raman says sorry to them as well and goes behind her.

They come back in different cars Ishita is walking home and he comes and stops her. She says to him leave me alone. Raman says to her I know your are super pissed at me but whatever I said in the restaurant is true I am sorry accept my apology and end this. She asks him are you feeling guilty he expression show he is frustrated that she is not coming back. She asks him for how long, a day, for few hours or few minutes I don't trust your guilt and anger. Raman loses it and says to her stop it how long I have been apologizing you are my wife I know you love me the same way I do so why are making a joke of our marriage I am asking you for an apology accept it and end this and come back home Ishita says to him you don't understand

you shout at me,

blame me ,

I am not sure what to do at that time,

I have to justify myself,

you disrespect me in private and public

You always point on my mother hood.

Raman starts saying kab and turns his face other way so he is not listening to what Ishita is telling him

I'm tired of this repeat cycle I am not able to bear this so sorry please leave me alone and starts walking away from him. Raman loses it and in anger catches hold of her and says to her listen to me what are you saying I'm the only one who does mistake all the times are you saying you never make mistake Ishita says to him this is not about mistake this is about your anger issue look this is a public place and how you are holding me you are not respecting me you are not respecting kids all the time you are raising hands on them, you lose your sense when you are angry so I don't want them in your influence(This dialogue made me think I always wondered why Ishita is saying Raman influence is not good on kids as we all know that he loves the kids but this dialogue triggered a spark in me Ishita is afraid that Ruhi/Pihu are going in Raman foot steps in anger they are forgetting everything else example are Ruhi /Pihu were disrespecting everyone feelings when they were angry and mainly because she is afraid that Ruhi would turn like Raman that in her anger she will destroy herself example being Ruhi was ready to take her life in anger) Raman is frustrated to the core and asks her why are you taking the talk in different directions she just say leave and walks away and Raman says strange woman( Ishita clearly told him today it is not about the mistake but the way he treats her in anger I am wondering whether it reached Raman what she was trying to say)

Ishita comes home closes the door and bangs on the door frustrated for losing her cool she doesn't see appa there but when appa comes and asks her she is okay once again she starts hiding her pain and nods to him that she is okay and asks him why you are not sleeping. He tells her he is worried about her as she is his kid (Kudos to CV for birnging in this nuances her banging in the door crying shows she is frustrated that she lost her cool in front of strangers and opened about her marriage and hiding it from appa says the Ishita who hides her pain is back)

Appa allows her breather and asks her to have coffee with him. He tries to start a conversation saying that she makes coffee like a mother that is why he doesn't miss Madhu. He says to her don't mistake me but why are doing this no one is happy Ishita says to him that she is tired of the repeat cycle with Raman. She leaves Appa monolgue I know you are doing this for Raman but you are hurt more in this.(I liked the conversation it was very mature he sat with his daughter tried to guide her to the path which will give her less tears in her life)

Ishita is trying to sleep but Raman words keep repeating that their paths are different, she has no realtionship with Ruhi and him, She is not a mother by birth in her mind so she finally gives upon sleep and gets up she gets a message from Raman. She keeps put it off but he keeps calling her repeatedly finally she picks up. He asks her to come out She says to him you are drunk you are not in your sense I will not come. He says he will break the door open to see her and starts hitting on the door finally she gives in and says that she will come. Raman is happy that she will come because she loves him.

Raman is happy seeing her and pulls her towards their home Ishita says to him you are stone drunk go home and sleep. He says to her I love you I cannot stay without you that is why I drank She asks him to go repeatedly He comes and hugs her and says I love you lets go home(Kudos to CV once again the drunk Raman understood Ishita pain he hugged her like a parents do when the kid is hurt and says to them I love you that is what Raman did here) He was pulling her to come and Ishita was resisting and she gets bruised in the process Bhallaji walks in and slaps Raman (This scene can be interpreted in two ways I am not sure which way I took it so I am going to write both my pov.

1. Bhallaji interference should have been kept to minimal he should have freed Ishita from holds and asks Romi to take him inside without slapping

2. Bhallaji as a father stood up for Ishita he slapped the guy who was misbehaving with his daughter no matter what the relationship of the guy is with his daughter it like the same way Raman beat Sohail without asking him why he was in the Ruhi room in first place

So I am not sure which side I am leaning on in this scene as both looks correct for me)

Ishita is shocked by Bhallaji behavior Bhallaji continues give a earful to Raman as to why he is misbehaving with Ishita Romi intervenes and takes Raman inside but Raman is pleading that he was only asking sorry to his wife. Ishita is sad seeing Raman state. Bhallajii apologizes to her she says it is not needed and tries to hide the marks given by Raman but Bhallaji sees it and gets mad at Raman but she says to him that is okay he is not in his sense.

The next day morning Toshji gives dress to Bhallaji. He asks whether she took the medication She cries to him saying why are you asking this when you left me alone. He says to her those are two different things this is about ethics so don't bring it up. Toshjii says to him what about Raman he is sad that his wife and children are not with him to receive a business award. She asks him to say to Ishita to act again for Raman. Bhallaji says to her if I ask her she will go but I don't want to ask her after seeing Raman behavior yesterday night. Toshjii tells him at least the kids should go. This is heard by Ishita who is standing in the door.

Precap: Raman is drunk and hit a car. He is refusing to apologize and a fight erupts.

Things stood out for me in the episode:

1. Raman still has not got that Ishita is not angry but hurt

2. Ishita clearly said its not about mistakes she is hurt with the way he treats her in anger.

3. Ishita is afraid that Ruhi is following in Raman footsteps in anger.

4. Clearly no one has any idea at the magnitude of Ishita hurt as she keeps burring it with a smile on her face so it will take sometime for everyone to realize this as of now every one is thinking she is angry.

5. Acp/Divya were the catalyst for Ishita to pour out the pain and Raman to understand she is not doing drama .

6. Bhallaji took the role of Ishita father.

7. Toshjii as usual only wants her grand kids back.

8. Appa/Romi are the only ones who are trying to figure out what the problem is and trying to find the solution others are only picking up side.

9. I don't like drunk Raman. Drinking is not the solution to solve the problem.

KP/DT nailed their scene👏👏 AWESOME acting

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Akhinaravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

I like today's episode bt ...Ishita Raman both are at fault atleast Raman said sorry to Ishita bt joh ghalati Ishita ne ki uskeliye usne sorry bhi bola nahi...ishita ne uss ghalati ko justify karne ki kOshish kar rahi hai ...aur ek baat Jab bhi Raman Meri Beti ya Beta bol diya toh sab jagah hungama machti hai par Aaj jab ishita ne kaha ki "Meri bachon keliye yeh atmosphere sahi nahi hai" toh kisiko bhi kuch kehne ko nahi hai...Ishita prove karna kya chahti hai ki Raman bachon keliye bad influence hai ????arey yaar jaise Ishita bachon keliye kabhi bura nahi sochenge waise hi Raman bavhon keliye kabhi bura nahi sochenge...Raman ishita ko anger mein bachon se dhoor rahne ko kehti hai toh Ishita bhi abhi wahi kar rahi hai na par Raman ki anger mein poore hosh mein aur ago mein(I knw Ishita hurt hai Raman ki gusse ki wajah se par vo gusse ko bachon ki atmosphere ke saath relate karna mujhe nahi lagta sahi hai)..Ishita Raman ko lesson sikhana chahti hai na kyu ki Raman uska motherhood par hamesha sawal udatha hai par Ishita kya kar rahi hai Raman ki fatherhood par sawal uda raha hai...Ishita bhi toh wahi ghalati kar rahi hai na...agar donon ek hi ghalati kar rahi hai toh lesson kiss baat ka...Agar ishita apni selfrespect ke bare mein sochkar Raman se dhoor rahne ka decision liya toh achi baat hai par Uska bachon keliye Raman bad influence kehkar ghar chodna achi baat nahi hai...jaise dikh raha waise dekha jaye toh Ishita Raman se badla le raha hai acc to me...no offence

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zindagi4pyaar

@zindagi4pyaar

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Posted: 8 years ago

Amazing as alwzz...

N one scene wen mr bhalla was scolding raman n raman was trying 2 talk 2 ishita... N ishita was having tears in her eyes... As if c herself his feeling d pain of raman wen mr bhalla was scolding n raman was pleading

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zindagi4pyaar

@zindagi4pyaar

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Posted: 8 years ago

Amazing as alwayss...

But one scene wer mr bhalla waa scolding raman n raman was trying 2 talk 2 ishita... N ishita was standing der wid tears in her eyes... As if c was feeling d pain of raman wen mr bhalla was telling dat raman dont deserve ishita n raman was pleading

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sumita_ghosh

@sumita_ghosh

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Posted: 8 years ago

Thanks for the wonderful review Viji:)..

yet to watch but seems like a good episode in terms of emotions and acting..

So first was the charming cockiness that failed

then that matter of fact scene where he says let it go..he is sorry ..he loves her that should be enough ..though there was a hint of anger..

and then the third where when both the scenarios failed his vulnerability surfaced under the effect of alcohol..and he is literally cajoling her like a kid ..

But Ishu is unmoved..

In the past Ishu Let her LOVE overpower her HURT

But now she is not letting the HURT be overshadowed by her LOVE..

Viji do you feel she has no hopes left in this relationship any more ..or she wants to stay away ..give it some time and then rethink..

Coz the cvs are constantly stressing on the fact that they love each other very much..

Just yesterday I wished to know the purpose of Shagun's pregnancy ..and today through the segments got my answers..

Shaun Pregnant=Mani's source of happiness =his Ghar ka Chirag=comes on Nidhi's radar=Nidhi Blackmails him=Majboor Mani=Gives in to BM=Nidhi out=Target Ishra=Ishra's already non existent happiness at stake=ishra succumb to Nidhi's evil machinations=Cvs Goal achieved..😳

Goal being -Raman and Ishita should not and cannot be happy ever..

So another Baby becomes the impediment to their happiness and the funny thing is all the kids are from Shagun😊

yes even Nidhi is in their life coz of Shagun😛..

So the cause and Effect of all problems in Raman and Ishu's life is SHAGUN😆

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Mdwst

@Mdwst

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: zindagi4pyaar
Amazing as alwzz...
N one scene wen mr bhalla was scolding raman n raman was trying 2 talk 2 ishita... N ishita was having tears in her eyes... As if c herself his feeling d pain of raman wen mr bhalla was scolding n raman was pleading

Hi..thank you

The scene you mentioned...was amazing..thanks for mentioning it...yes she felt his pain...

Another scene...was when she was trying to cover up the bruise and Bhallaji apologizes and she defen raman saying..it's ok..I'm fine.,he's not in his senses..

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zindagi4pyaar

@zindagi4pyaar

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Mdwst

Hi..thank you
The scene you mentioned...was amazing..thanks for mentioning it...yes she felt his pain...
Another scene...was when she was trying to cover up the bruise and Bhallaji apologizes and she defen raman saying..it's ok..I'm fine.,he's not in his senses..

Yup dat scene again showed dat hw much ishita luvs raman... Dat c cant even nod in agreement 2 mr bhallas apology 4 ramans behaviour

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sirisha

@jakkula.sirisha

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: akhinaakhinapr
I like today's episode bt ...Ishita Raman both are at fault atleast Raman said sorry to Ishita bt joh ghalati Ishita ne ki uskeliye usne sorry bhi bola nahi...ishita ne uss ghalati ko justify karne ki kOshish kar rahi hai ...aur ek baat Jab bhi Raman Meri Beti ya Beta bol diya toh sab jagah hungama machti hai par Aaj jab ishita ne kaha ki "Meri bachon keliye yeh atmosphere sahi nahi hai" toh kisiko bhi kuch kehne ko nahi hai...Ishita prove karna kya chahti hai ki Raman bachon keliye bad influence hai ????arey yaar jaise Ishita bachon keliye kabhi bura nahi sochenge waise hi Raman bavhon keliye kabhi bura nahi sochenge...Raman ishita ko anger mein bachon se dhoor rahne ko kehti hai toh Ishita bhi abhi wahi kar rahi hai na par Raman ki anger mein poore hosh mein aur ago mein(I knw Ishita hurt hai Raman ki gusse ki wajah se par vo gusse ko bachon ki atmosphere ke saath relate karna mujhe nahi lagta sahi hai)..Ishita Raman ko lesson sikhana chahti hai na kyu ki Raman uska motherhood par hamesha sawal udatha hai par Ishita kya kar rahi hai Raman ki fatherhood par sawal uda raha hai...Ishita bhi toh wahi ghalati kar rahi hai na...agar donon ek hi ghalati kar rahi hai toh lesson kiss baat ka...Agar ishita apni selfrespect ke bare mein sochkar Raman se dhoor rahne ka decision liya toh achi baat hai par Uska bachon keliye Raman bad influence kehkar ghar chodna achi baat nahi hai...jaise dikh raha waise dekha jaye toh Ishita Raman se badla le raha hai acc to me...no offence

i dont want to argue with u because of forum rules but i want to tell u one thing parents kabhi kabhi meri beti ya mera beta kehke bath karthe hai but sirf meri beti kehne me meri beti kehne me bohuth fark hotha hai
ishita raman ki fatherhood pe sawal nahi kar rahi hi uski behaviour ki bare me bath kar rahi hai
bachon ke balai ke liye ek decision le hai tho woh backfire hogayi ussne ussi raath realise karliya aur raman se plead bhi kiya please raman mijhse baath karo munhe kudh se dor math karo lekin raman ne raasthe alag kiya
ishita revenge nahi lena chathi hai bas apne relationship se hopes kho baiti hai
ajj segments dekhi aapne ishu bachon ko vapas bejh diya
bhallaji raman ko daat raha tho raman se jyada ishita hurt dikh rahi thi she loves raman bas abb pirse raman usko motherhood pe question kartha hai tho sahane ki himmath nahi hai usme because raman has not realised the depth of her hurt for him its normal fight between couple thats indicate that if any tough situation arrives again he doesnt think for one to again accuses her because raman has the habbit of accusing others to get rid of his pain or guilt
at first leap he accused ishita and romi and abishek but not at all accepted his fault in that fiasio and banned ishita name in house to get rid of the guilt of being the reason to her suicide.

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Mdwst

@Mdwst

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: sumita_ghosh
Thanks for the wonderful review Viji:)..
yet to watch but seems like a good episode in terms of emotions and acting..
So first was the charming cockiness that failed
then that matter of fact scene where he says let it go..he is sorry ..he loves her that should be enough ..though there was a hint of anger..
and then the third where when both the scenarios failed his vulnerability surfaced under the effect of alcohol..and
@ ..
But Ishu is unmoved..
In the past Ishu Let her LOVE overpower her HURT
But now she is not letting the HURT be overshadowed by her LOVE..
Viji do you feel she has no hopes left in this relationship any more ..or she wants to stay away ..give it some time and then rethink..
Coz the cvs are constantly stressing on the fact that they love each other very much..

Just yesterday I wished to know the purpose of Shagun's pregnancy ..and today through the segments got my answers..
Shaun Pregnant=Mani's source of happiness =his Ghar ka Chirag=comes on Nidhi's radar=Nidhi Blackmails him=Majboor Mani=Gives in to BM=Nidhi out=Target Ishra=Ishra's already non existent happiness at stake=ishra succumb to Nidhi's evil machinations=Cvs Goal achieved..😳
Goal being -Raman and Ishita should not and cannot be happy ever..

So another Baby becomes the impediment to their happiness and the funny thing is all the kids are from Shagun😊

yes even Nidhi is in their life coz of Shagun😛..

So the cause and Effect of all problems in Raman and Ishu's life is SHAGUN😆

Hi Sumi

@ bold..yes..he is. i wouldn't say ishita was unmoved..she was..it is taking all her will power to not to give in...its not teaching a lesson..on the contrary...it's intervention..in any given situation whether alcoholism or drug abuse...when it exceeds a limit..family takes the drastic step..to help the individual so that he's not completely destroyed...that's how I'm seeing it ...he's not aware of what he's doing...and she's trying to make him aware...hey wake up...take responsibility for your actions..no offense to anyone..

@ italic scenes..it's tricky...from the looks of it she's given up..but not completely I think..she's unable to let go or wash her hands off...idk...I need to think...sorry Sumi.

But the plain fact is they do lOve each other..

I like your cause and effect..and thank you

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