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@3fra

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

boiling ur blood will do nothing yhm cv's has over confident with this track they account alot on australia trip etc , for me I have no expectations , hopes or excitement for Australia trip, hit & miss game misunderstanding, temporary family reunion again misunderstanding & separation it's boring

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Mdwst

@Mdwst

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

@ Maya about the plan ..

It was her plan only...her sending him away...

But I couldn't elaborate it earlier...I've reserved my spot for 2 nd round of comments ..characters by characters atleast the main ones and the plan

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Akhinaravi

@Akhinaravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: mayasun
Hi Viji,
Today episode was pathetic.

I may be in minority but Raman spewing venom at her was not part of the plan. I think the plan started only after he dragged her from the room during the end of the episode that too it is not IshRa plan but Ishita because she understood that whatever she does Raman will always hold her responsible for him being away from Pihu.

Mani no words after the court fiasco I thought there was few incidents where he might start regretting that he back stabbed his friend but no he is so much in love with Shagun he cannot see behind her. Forget being a friend what type of a father he is saying to his engaged daughter we will see whether you two will get married every father with engaged girls will pray that the marriage should go without a hitch for her bright future but even he failed as father so in total Mani failed as a human being too.

Pihu no words for her I know she is a small child I should not wish any ill for her but I seriously wish she is neglected by Shagun so much she finally realizes her father immense love for her as well as her mother silent love for her. It was disgusting to see a father crying at the feet of a daughter and the kid ignoring him.

Raman I have no words for him he goes of Ishita with only half-knowledge. I agree Ishita should not have hidden the counselling from Raman but the tone in which he asked her in front of Shagun and then he did not let the counselor complete her theories just asked the question what Shagun asked and nothing more it was pathetic to see him insult his wife in front of his ex-wife. This insulting Ishita in front of Shagun was definitely not a plan

Raman again insulting her in front of every one in the Bhalla house is also not part of the plan when he called her manhoos, because of her his kid is away, he even told her indirectly that he believes that she might be a reason for the car brakes failed and something happened to Pihu because of her. He even told her why did she came back alive to spoil his life when he was peaceful with Pihu when she was not there

Ishita is crying near the window alone I think this is where she started thinking to send Raman away from her. Raman is crying in the living room with Pihu photo. Adi/Aliya talk and both are worried for Ishita.

Aliya informs Adi about the Bangkok trip and he informs IshRa but Raman stops her again and goes to Mani house it was pathetic to see him promising Shagun that Ishita would not come near her child so that she does not take Pihu away from him what a way for CV to confirm that Surrogacy is only for Shagun. Way to go CV👏👏👏

Raman comes back to the house defeated and again goes off on Ishita I guess this is also not part of the plan and they both walk back to the room separately. This is where I guess Ishita comes back with a plan of sending him away knowing that he holds her responsible for Pihu being away from him.

Raman comes back dragging Ishita down to throw her out and he goes off on her again I guess this is where the plan starts because they both were talking through eyes only. Mr.Bhalla throws Raman out of the house.

Ashok/Kunal/Shagun pathetic they endgarded a small girl life😡I wish Pihu comes to know that it is her darling Shagun mama who tried to kill her.

Precap: Raman leaves the house

The first outburst is not a plan ...BT second one is definitely a plan bcoz according to seg he said i blaimed u as u said .. So it's definitely a plan... In first confrontation for some extent he was right bcoz Adi,Ruhi,Mihika,Aaliya,...sabko Pihu ki counselling class mein bare pata hai par jisko sabse zyada pata hone chahiye ussi se sabne chupaya...joh sab Ishita Raman se hide kartha vo sab Raman ko shagun se pata chaltha hai kya yeh insult nahi hai as a husband... She should share info with her husband before anyone... So Raman questioning Ishita infront of shagun and hiding things from Raman,wahi baat Raman ko kisi third person se pata chal raha hai ...both are wrong

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sumita_ghosh

@sumita_ghosh

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Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Viji..thanks for the review..from your review it was clear that none of the puke worthy scenes were edited ..they went full on in the abuses hurled by Raman at Ishu..

My ques to Sonali -"Were all the vile dialogues Necessary?"and just coz it is a plan the viewers are supposed to be ok with the dialogues.?...was it necessary to show a husband dragging his wife to the hall ,,the wife who is unwell?.Was it ok to show a husband about to hit his wife? ( as in the segments but seems like they have retained that scene from the review)

For the sake of Shagun the creatives have portrayed Raman as a husband who is simply at home verbally abusing his wife even in a plan..and Ishu well ..as a woman she has disappointed me more..

Now all is in the hands of the trp aunties ..Yhm aunty are slightly different from the average trp aunty,,they belong to the" Discerning Trp Aunty" category ..a rare group it is..so it is their response which will make or break this leap..

And as far as the Sonali is concerned she has completely insulted a God given gift that is being able to write and present a story..I always felt that being able to weave a story and add your own

beautiful creativity and presenting it is a blessing not all have.It is a shame people like her are minting money selling trash and real genuine writers are languishing in penury coz there are no takers for their story..and this woman wants viewers to watch her serial in some other channel..😆

and according to me this aussie trip has nothing to do with the story ..the cast and crew just wanted a break and change of scene ..and The creatives will enjoy the hols and in between enjoying the scenery and the Roos and the Koalas will weave in a crappy story..and when the hols over come back to saki naka to weave more trash..

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vanisree

@vanisree

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: snehaseshan

That's wat is pissing me I agree ishita hiding facts from Raman is wrong but falling prey to shagun's games & doubting& questioning ishita is wat I'm not at all liking... Does he not know wat shagun is capable of...😡

Thats what it hurts . every time he acuses ishitha bcos of shagun drama.

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Thaslima

@PinkRose95

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: mayasun
Hi Viji,
Today episode was pathetic.

I may be in minority but Raman spewing venom at her was not part of the plan. I think the plan started only after he dragged her from the room during the end of the episode that too it is not IshRa plan but Ishita because she understood that whatever she does Raman will always hold her responsible for him being away from Pihu.

Mani no words after the court fiasco I thought there was few incidents where he might start regretting that he back stabbed his friend but no he is so much in love with Shagun he cannot see behind her. Forget being a friend what type of a father he is saying to his engaged daughter we will see whether you two will get married every father with engaged girls will pray that the marriage should go without a hitch for her bright future but even he failed as father so in total Mani failed as a human being too.

Pihu no words for her I know she is a small child I should not wish any ill for her but I seriously wish she is neglected by Shagun so much she finally realizes her father immense love for her as well as her mother silent love for her. It was disgusting to see a father crying at the feet of a daughter and the kid ignoring him.

Raman I have no words for him he goes of Ishita with only half-knowledge. I agree Ishita should not have hidden the counselling from Raman but the tone in which he asked her in front of Shagun and then he did not let the counselor complete her theories just asked the question what Shagun asked and nothing more it was pathetic to see him insult his wife in front of his ex-wife. This insulting Ishita in front of Shagun was definitely not a plan

Raman again insulting her in front of every one in the Bhalla house is also not part of the plan when he called her manhoos, because of her his kid is away, he even told her indirectly that he believes that she might be a reason for the car brakes failed and something happened to Pihu because of her. He even told her why did she came back alive to spoil his life when he was peaceful with Pihu when she was not there

Ishita is crying near the window alone I think this is where she started thinking to send Raman away from her. Raman is crying in the living room with Pihu photo. Adi/Aliya talk and both are worried for Ishita.

Aliya informs Adi about the Bangkok trip and he informs IshRa but Raman stops her again and goes to Mani house it was pathetic to see him promising Shagun that Ishita would not come near her child so that she does not take Pihu away from him what a way for CV to confirm that Surrogacy is only for Shagun. Way to go CV👏👏👏

Raman comes back to the house defeated and again goes off on Ishita I guess this is also not part of the plan and they both walk back to the room separately. This is where I guess Ishita comes back with a plan of sending him away knowing that he holds her responsible for Pihu being away from him.

Raman comes back dragging Ishita down to throw her out and he goes off on her again I guess this is where the plan starts because they both were talking through eyes only. Mr.Bhalla throws Raman out of the house.

Ashok/Kunal/Shagun pathetic they endgarded a small girl life😡I wish Pihu comes to know that it is her darling Shagun mama who tried to kill her.

Precap: Raman leaves the house

Bang on Maya. ..
Ppl has to understand Raman's all those venomous words are not the plan.. Did ishita asked him to call her manhoos and all? So we should call it as mauka pe chauka by Raman..? Plan or no plan all those words cannot be taken back... This is just pathetic..shagun and pihu.. both are bitch. .i dont want pihu with ishita anymore. .I was pissed off when Raman said only I deserve pihu. .Yes he deserves all that belongs to him rightfully except ishita. .rest he can figure out what is good for him.. Raman is officially dead today 🥱 even ashok knows that he is a fool...
The way he was barking at ishita before shagun is just so cheap. .no women ll accept such abuse and no man with a good upbringing ll do it.. But Raman did

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diyah_us

@diyah_us

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#17

first of all I want to take out my rant about ishita. why does she always takes decisions

without even consulting raman? she thinks she can do everything right. the basic understanding

is just not there between these 2 as husband & wife. she always keeps him in dark. no

wonder he gets upset.

and as for raman, I can say clearly now that when he gets angry he just cant control himself.

he turns ABUSIVE. YES he is an abusive husband. There r many men out there in this

world who become like that when they r angry. Raman is like that not just for ishita

but for romi, adi, mani. He becomes physical when he is angry. A VERY BAD TRAIT.

I think cvs should just forget about uniting raman ishita ever again. But nah, again after leap,

raman will start thinking about ishita once shagun starts neglecting pihu.

Raman in my thinking has no love for ishita. He is with her only in happy times.

but the moment crisis occurs, he ditches her like filth. he just does not love ishita at all.

and ishita could never become ramans wife, never ever.

articles say ishita will move on. really??? nah, one guy will come who will fall in

love with her but she will still be cursing herself for distancing raman & pihu, just like

she did during the time of ruhi. and once raman comes back all puppy face she will again

fall at his feet. this woman has zero self respect.

if they really want her to move on in true sense, they should show her being married to a new guy, having kids with him. that is moving on.

but cvs are not bold enough to show that.

how come raman never really abused shagun the way he does ishita??

it means that raman deserves shagun more as somewhere deep down he can only

love shagun. ishita tho aani jaani hain.

I am really very very disappointed with the cvs. the story will again begin. shagun will

again turn pihu into a brat just like adi, ishita will again come into rescue, raman

again will mistreat her like he did at the beginning of their first marriage, shagun again

will think she is losing raman, she will start her plans & raman will again start doubting ishita,\

& mayya being the fool she is she will again bear insults from everyone. such pathetic people

both raman & ishita the way they r shown.

finally for me this serial is SO OVER. I cant bear another leap😡

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ladyprincess

@ladyprincess

Explorer

Posted: 8 years ago

#18

I don't say ishita was right in hiding about counselor from raman but that doesn't call for the dialogues he uttered before or after going to the room. Neither ishita will stop her scheming alone nor will raman use brain ever. They just don't seem to stop hiding things from each other

Anyways when have they even been successful. During shanaya track when they were together, that was an epic fail too. whatever they do together or alone is a big failure in this yhm. Old was something else where we had the sharp RKB and jhansi ki rani

I really would have stopped even following the updates if this wasn't a plan.

Mani is disgusting. I thought along with alia's paati, he knew what games shagun was playing. Still he is taking away pihu from ishra

and what is this bangkok and australia? where are they going? is shagun misleading mani and taking another flight to AUS?

this show will blow away my mind

I don't think if raman is with them in AUS he would have been successful in changing pihu's mind in one year. what's the use? have ishra decided to be separated life long? raman with one kid and ishita with rest of the family

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sumita_ghosh

@sumita_ghosh

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: Mdwst
Shagun started her drama
Mani questions Ishu"..Ishita says she has no idea
Raman asks Shaun.."to tell the truth, be clear..as this is very serious"
Mani looks on
Shagun says " she's taking Pihu to counsellor, aaliya is taking as per ishitas instructions, whaT is she trying to prove? That I'm a bad mom?"...the men are shocked..." Are you trying to get pihu's ustody? Why are you doing this?..mani I can't live without Pihu, please stop all this".. Raman is disturbed...mani calms her down
Raman starts..." Ishita is this true? I want an answer now".. He raised his voice In front of Shagun ""and she has a wicked look...I says " yes I did ..for counsellor
R...why didn't you tell me before?
I--Coz I want to know the truth before telling you...so she wants confirmation"..Coz earlier even with proof he was not accepting it...he would've shut her down. By saying its baseless..as Shagun is her mom.,why will she do it..
Did Ishita made mistake..imo...I don't think so..she was to to be absolutely positively sure befire they take the next step as pihu's parents. She wants proof ..a solid proof...and that's what she was trying to do .
Yes yesterday I did say she should've informed Raman...but he wouldn't have listened...that's why I said would he have listened...
I-- we felt Pihu wouldn't have done this...this drama was done by Shagun
She says even the child counsellor feels the same way
S... Do you guys think I will do this to my own daughter?
R-- call the counselor ..I want to talk to her now...
He was furious mani calms sgagin shun
C... I feel your daughter is confused and she's being pampered ...I feel her mom is not taking good care of her
R-- I don't want to hear that..tell me did my daughter confess that she took pills?
He once again shut her spdisn..so basically raman goes by half baked Truth and facts..
C.. No
M-- dos she ever say that her mom gave pills or lie..
C.. No..in fact she loves her mom, she never said anything bad about her mom
R--what are you trying to prove here?.. What are you trying to live here?
I.. I'm trying to protect her.
Shagun further accuses of her hand on car breaks..
Raman is shocked...Ishu too
Another guy comes there and says and plays a drama and says that Ishita added him to do that.
Shagun asks him..to question him
Raman says wth are you saying.?... Ishu says I never did this..I agreed ion the counsellor but never this..she's arguing her case with the men
Ishuta says it's not the truth...mani says he's disappointed with her and asks her to leave...Raman leaves...
All witnessed by as Aaliya
At bhallas ...
Raman says how can you do this?..what if Pihu was injured?.and Ishu says do you really think that I will kill Shagun?... So Ishita did feel that Raman thinks that she's capable atleast initially...
Raman says ..I don't know what you can and cannot ?maybe it was all shaguns drama? The truth is you've given her reasons and enough ammunition ..why didn't you inform me?.. You always do something and we end up bearing the brunt...you do this all the time...Coz of you. My daughter is going away from us, sirf thumhari waje se...and walks away
Ishu...She's devastated and shattered

Adi sees Raman with pihu's pic..he's in the living room...
Aaliya calls him...both are feeling bad for ishuta...this is only based on drama Shagun created...adi says..ishima is not a bhaanj...Pihu is the proof...but he's nit happy with the way his dad poke to his mom...
Aaliya says Pihu doesn't even allow Amma near her
Adi says yes dad knows that mom will never do this..but based on counsellors words he went off on her in a bad way
Both are worried for them

In the morning mani is trying to wake up aaliya
Mani informs her about moving to Bangkok
Aaliya says don't you know Amma can never hurt anybody..mani says yes I'm aware of that..but the fight is going out if control..and pihu is suffering so it's good that distance is happening..yes Ishu is pihu's asli Maa..but Shagun is also her mom...I'm neither supporting anyone nor against anyone..the fact is Pihu was there in the car...Pihu is suffering...I don't want that"
Aaliya is asking what about me? Mani says " let's see if this distance manes your love stronger or ends...this is a testing time fir you...besides you guys are only engaged"...
So another clue..that aadiliya may drift apart..

Aaliya informs adi...adi informs his parent..both shocked
Raman says " Ishita please...you don't go as matters will escalate"
She's is shocked
Raman at mani's and with hands folded and tears asks her not to separate him from Pihu..Raman says " I promise you and make star that ishuta will never come anywhere near Pihu"... And we knkw he will definitely keep up this promise...Coz...he wants Pihu to be with him and he promised Shagun ..
Shagun pays no need..she played the card
Pihu says "I don't want to see you or be with you ..Pihu I don't trust you ...you love her not me, you married her...go to her"...absolute no emotions..very cold.
Adi is also there
Raman is shattered

At the bhallas..Ishu says how can you let out daughter leave?
R...I didn't let her go..you did...ishu is shocked
Coz of you my daughter left, why did you even come back? At least Pihu was there with me now she's gone , you set you manhoos foot in this house and she left , Pihu is only mine, only I deserve you...I hate you..thumhari shakal se me NAFRAT hoon ,".. Leaves
Ruhi tries to stop
Ishu leaves
Family in living room
Raman drags her down ..." Get out of my house, my daughter left...you are a manhoos And you have no place in this house"
Bhallaji steps in...adi step in..Ishu is yelling and raman says " I'm ashamed you're still aliv, get out of my house..don't you have any shame?"
Ishu is countering him...
Raman tries to physically hurt her and raman fins,my says " ok it's either me or this manhoos""
Bhallaji says.. We choose Ishita
Raman looks on...
Bhallaji says the whole family is with Ishita ...if you want you can stay here..else leave

Raman says " my family is my daughter,..she's the biggest mistake"
Adi says you are wrong this time...mumma is not at fault here ..nit this time
Romi is pleading
Bhallaji says ishuta is my daughter ...
My daughter is not here and you all know the reason behind it.

Precap
Raman says to Ishu " all these people who are standing by you today..they are better off with you, but my daughter is my family ..I'm going to her" and leaves.

Kunal and Ashok...Shagun staged the accident...plan was ashok's...
Ashok says ...we have to be very smart to outsmart ishuta..and says now Raman will question her. Kunal says..everybody knows Ishita will never harm anybody . But currently ishita is in a bad position..even Ashok knows Ishita is very smart...

Overall..intense drama ...leap may be as early as tomorrow
KP / DT were fab
Let's see if trp aunties got the pointers ...

Guys I'm so,sorry for the delay.too many dialogues to write
1st outburst is not a plan..him confronting her about the counseling at the bhallas...
These 2 were communicating in their way...I sensed/ saw that...
Both were broken ...that's very clear ...

Viji ..there was something strange in today's episode going by the review..Raman blamed Ishu for making plans and the family bearing the brunt of it..and now if it is Ishu's plan how come he agreed to this plan of hers ,,isn't he worried this might again back fire like the previous ones and turn into something disastrous for the family..or is it coz she informed him about the plan he was ok..so is it safe to conclude that all plans made by Ishu are ok if she shares it with Raman? so even if her plans are hairbrained schemes it is ok..?.I found it strange and Interesting ..any answers?

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GBSC

@GBSC

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#20

Beautiful review.👏

I did not watch the pre leap episodes of the previous leap.

Same this time.

Actually I'm tuned to avoiding things that might affect me.

Unrealistic n dramatic stuff.

Your review was very touching as though I was watching the show live.

PIHU IS NOT RAMAN'S ONLY CHILD.Adi n ruhi are also there.

Neither is it Ishu's only.thecrappy dialogue of pihu removes ishima's bhaanj title is wrong n should be removed.

If Ishu can produce 1 egg,then she can do millions more.

If a man gets this crazy for his child that he fails to trust or understand his wife,then his wife definitely deserves a better life away from him.

Any good thing that the viewers may want can only happen with shags.

The normal stuff like long n happy married life.

Having a kid.

Sharing the joys of pregnancy,even if it is through surr.

This couple did not even discuss the possible names for their upcoming baby/child.

Surrogacy rules in India will not allow Raman to go in for it as he has already got 2 children.

Ishu would have had to take legal help for defending her case for going in for surr.

Hence Raman can never say that pihu is his daughter.Ishu has first rights.

Actually I will be happy if Raman throws Ishu in the streets.

Falsely implicates her with theft.

Separates from her for good.

But Ishu should get preggy with raman's kid.

Go through the whole pregnancy alone n helpless.

Ishu should turn into a strong n single mother.

Should see raman's face then.

Wouldn't this be women empowerment.

Not illegitimate children as promoted by the channel.

Somehow I donot have the heart to watch separation or sharam for a second time.

Plan or no plan.It makes no diff.

What was Raman doing these 7 years?

I'm ok with Raman going away for pihu.

But let him spare Ishu n her feelings.

Seems like this couple are happy when they are separated.Bored when they are together for too long.

Upon separation,

They see less of each other that once they do the fire ignites all over again.

Yeh hai dirty mohabbatein.

Only physical.

Every day spent together is precious in the married life of a couple.

This fight n separation does not show that the love for 1 kid is greater than their togetherness ,but that their marriage n love for each other is that WEAK.

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