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sunitas123

@sunitas123

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Posted: 9 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: mayasundar

Hi Sunita,

May be it will be like you said but then again how will Raman come to know what Ishita suffered for the past seven years right now he cannot see beyond Ishita left him and he is still stuck there and cannot see what happened before that so my guess would be if at all they would be married three problems solved at once

1. Ishita stays even after Ruhi comes to Bhalla house so scope for more drama because if Ishita left Bhalla house there is no scope for drama.

2.Raman doesn't have to marry Shagun or give explanation to her why he doesn't have to marry her after his half-marriage with her

3. DT marriage symbol is also covered

then she is kidnapped and Mani tells him about her suicide attempts and slowly Raman starts to realize his part he played in the debacle which messed up all their lives but Sunita these are all my guess I'm not sure what they are going to show on the show

Maya, but is this not the time for Raman introspection? Mani or Aliya or even Ruhi can tell him something. Also, both Raman and Ruhi are blaming Ishita for the Ruhi kidnapping, that shud also be sorted out, if Ruhi needs a final change of heart. As per OLV, Raman said yes to marry ishita, Ishita said how can do not ask Shagun, he just kept quiet and hid behind Ishita and let Shagun herself cancel the wedding. So yes, the half-wedding would mean he wont go back to Shagun, but in any case for Ruhi he will need Ishita.

So as of now, we know Raman loves Ishita and we can negate all his abuses and sauteli maa crap. But that still begs the question how is only ishita responsible for Ruhi kidnap and what about his responsibility for driving Ishita to suicide?

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ramishi

@ramishi

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: swatica
Im thankful to editorrs n dialog writers of show today..

-shagun arora.. nt any other surname..
-no focus shagun when raman came in casuals on stage
-focus on ishru only in case of raman...
-no extra show off frm shagun side...
-she ws jst a judge..

bt dey had to incorporate a sily convo of alia getting impressed wid mihir's speech..
(kahi toh apni asliyat dikhayenge hi..)

@red...i think the competition was basically within the bhalla society...now the society people knows sharam are not married and also their remarriage was not completed so that is why there is no need to address her as shagun bhalla...another reason is pihu was not present either so there is no need to fake sharam relationship anymore in front of the society people...also now ishra are staying as couple for ruhi(though ishra marital status is still a big mystery for us)...imo

One more thing you might also have noticed that shagun doesn't wear magalsutra and sindoor anymore after her incomplete marriage with raman but surprisingly now pihu doesn't questions her anything about this( because as per the story shagun putting sindoor and wearing mangalsutra just to convince pihu about her relationship status with raman)

Edited by ramishi - 9 years ago

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Seetha_R

@Seetha_R

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#23

Maya, lovely review..👏

Without you and Viji this thread is practically dead.. glad you are back..

I loved how you highlighted the hidden messages..

Epi is good. Yesterday looked more filleting with a lollipop but today they definitely solidified some emotional ground for both Ruhi and Raman.

Yes Raman has to woo her back because the ge broke her but I must say he is lucky she still loves him despite him hurting her deeply

Second Raman making the first connection with Ruhi , i also observed the same. Ruhi being similar in nature as Raman them connecting emotionally first makes sense.. also with his gestures he is definitely making progress and she is connecting with him. And also you are right about the fact that these two need to claim Ishita for her to give her love to them.. she will not do it on her own.. even the first time around it's Ruhi who claimed Ishita.. then she brought father and daughter together by encouraging Raman to express his abundant love for his daughter.

Her staying far away from father and daughter and not intruding their moment - i don't think there is a change in her resolve on how much to be involved in father daughter bond..

There is no official status given to their relation because they were husband and wife before and there is no official divorce yet it's probably looked as husband and wife and no reason to correct it for the outsiders.. we surely know Ishita still considers Raman as her husband and she clearly stated that with Mani.. for Raman he is not sure.. because for Pihu Shags is her mom and and she and her papa are married long back.. and he sees no reason to change it.. he may or may not marry Shags but he will maintain status quo if need be.. Ruhi and Adi are grown up and if Ruhi comes to Raman she will also understand just like Adi did with his papa and mamma relationship.. though they may like to have their Ishima i don't think they will be ready to break little Pihu's heart as she is the apple of the family.. that's why he clearly said Ruhi was bond between him and Ishita but didn't say biwi but until now he hasn't expressed a strong desire to stay or wanting Ishita back yet.. (not going to consider OLVs until they air)

Overall nice epi.

Edited by ishrafan_us - 9 years ago

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Maya

@mayasun

Dazzler

+ 4

Posted: 9 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: sunitas123

Maya, but is this not the time for Raman introspection? Mani or Aliya or even Ruhi can tell him something. Also, both Raman and Ruhi are blaming Ishita for the Ruhi kidnapping, that shud also be sorted out, if Ruhi needs a final change of heart. As per OLV, Raman said yes to marry ishita, Ishita said how can do not ask Shagun, he just kept quiet and hid behind Ishita and let Shagun herself cancel the wedding. So yes, the half-wedding would mean he wont go back to Shagun, but in any case for Ruhi he will need Ishita.

So as of now, we know Raman loves Ishita and we can negate all his abuses and sauteli maa crap. But that still begs the question how is only ishita responsible for Ruhi kidnap and what about his responsibility for driving Ishita to suicide?

Hi Sunita,

Regarding your question why Raman/Ruhi are only blaming Ishita.

Ruhi only hears half the conversation where Ishita says she will swap Ruhi for her kid Pihu that misunderstanding will not clear until Raman says to her it was both their plan.

For Raman to take tell that to Ruhi he is also to be blamed he needs to realize his mistake first in the swap fiasco right now he is stuck at Ishita left him because Ruhi was not there so he is not thinking what happened before it on that day but once he does and accept his mistake also like Ishita did(which was shown in the show) then we would see a whole new change to Raman.

For Raman to accept his mistake in the swap fiasco Ishita life should be in great grave danger and Mani has to tell him about the suicide attempts then only the story will progress otherwise it will be like this only one day Raman/Ruhi want Ishita in their life and next day they want to throw her out of their life.

Regarding OLV I usually wait for the scene to air because so many times it is misleading as the precap.

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Maya

@mayasun

Dazzler

+ 4

Posted: 9 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us
Maya, lovely review..👏
Without you and Viji this thread is practically dead.. glad you are back..
I loved how you highlighted the hidden messages..
Epi is good. Yesterday looked more filleting with a lollipop but today they definitely solidified some emotional ground for both Ruhi and Raman.
Yes Raman has to woo her back because the ge broke her but I must say he is lucky she still loves him despite him hurting her deeply
Second Raman making the first connection with Ruhi , i also observed the same. Ruhi being similar in nature as Raman them connecting emotionally first makes sense.. also with his gestures he is definitely making progress and she is connecting with him. And also you are right about the fact that these two need to claim Ishita for her to give her love to them.. she will not do it on her own.. even the first time around it's Ruhi who claimed Ishita.. then she brought father and daughter together by encouraging Raman to express his abundant love for his daughter.
Her staying far away from father and daughter and not intruding their moment - i don't think there is a change in her resolve on how much to be involved in father daughter bond..
There is no official status given to their relation because they were husband and wife before and there is no official divorce yet it's probably looked as husband and wife and no reason to correct it for the outsiders.. we surely know Ishita still considers Raman as her husband and she clearly stated that with Mani.. for Raman he is not sure.. because for Pihu Shags is her mom and and she and her papa are married long back.. and he sees no reason to change it.. he may or may not marry Shags but he will maintain status quo if need be.. Ruhi and Adi are grown up and if Ruhi comes to Raman she will also understand just like Adi did with his papa and mamma relationship.. though they may like to have their Ishima i don't think they will be ready to break little Pihu's heart as she is the apple of the family.. that's why he clearly said Ruhi was bond between him and Ishita but didn't say biwi but until now he hasn't expressed a strong desire to stay or wanting Ishita back yet.. (not going to consider OLVs until they air)
Overall nice epi.

Thanks Raji,

How come other people did not comment on this thread?

Ishita still loves them but will not show to them openly until they claim her as their own. Yeah I totally forgot about YHM1 it was Ruhi who claimed Ishita first that is why she slowly started opening towards everyone in the Bhalla family because Ishita thought she belonged to them as Ruhi claimed her.

Ruman bonding is shown more than IshRu bonding so that is why I'm thinking it will be Ruman who will bond first and also it kinds of fits with role reversal attitude they have post leap.

Thanks for clarifying about Raman status with Ishita right now because I'm not able to see it clearly

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ramishi

@ramishi

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us
Maya, lovely review..👏
Without you and Viji this thread is practically dead.. glad you are back..
I loved how you highlighted the hidden messages..
Epi is good. Yesterday looked more filleting with a lollipop but today they definitely solidified some emotional ground for both Ruhi and Raman.
Yes Raman has to woo her back because the ge broke her but I must say he is lucky she still loves him despite him hurting her deeply
Second Raman making the first connection with Ruhi , i also observed the same. Ruhi being similar in nature as Raman them connecting emotionally first makes sense.. also with his gestures he is definitely making progress and she is connecting with him. And also you are right about the fact that these two need to claim Ishita for her to give her love to them.. she will not do it on her own.. even the first time around it's Ruhi who claimed Ishita.. then she brought father and daughter together by encouraging Raman to express his abundant love for his daughter.
Her staying far away from father and daughter and not intruding their moment - i don't think there is a change in her resolve on how much to be involved in father daughter bond..
There is no official status given to their relation because they were husband and wife before and there is no official divorce yet it's probably looked as husband and wife and no reason to correct it for the outsiders.. we surely know Ishita still considers Raman as her husband and she clearly stated that with Mani.. for Raman he is not sure.. because for Pihu Shags is her mom and and she and her papa are married long back.. and he sees no reason to change it.. he may or may not marry Shags but he will maintain status quo if need be.. Ruhi and Adi are grown up and if Ruhi comes to Raman she will also understand just like Adi did with his papa and mamma relationship.. though they may like to have their Ishima i don't think they will be ready to break little Pihu's heart as she is the apple of the family.. that's why he clearly said Ruhi was bond between him and Ishita but didn't say biwi but until now he hasn't expressed a strong desire to stay or wanting Ishita back yet.. (not going to consider OLVs until they air)
Overall nice epi.

But if raman still want to maintain his status quo with shagun for pihu's sake...what will he say now to pihu if ishita stays back even after ruhi's return to bhalla house?...as for the time being they told pihu that haar wali aunty is staying with him just to bring ruhi to bhalla house from nidhi's clutches but what next?...also will ruhi and adi both will address ishita as haar wali aunty in front of pihu so that she doesn't get heart broken?...ok lets say they don't want to disclose ishita's identity to pihu so that she remains happy but what about ruhi?...for how long they are going to hide ruhi's real identity from pihu?...what will ruhi call raman as...papa or mr raman bhalla or uncle?

Edited by ramishi - 9 years ago

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sunitas123

@sunitas123

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us
Maya, lovely review..👏
Without you and Viji this thread is practically dead.. glad you are back..
I loved how you highlighted the hidden messages..
Epi is good. Yesterday looked more filleting with a lollipop but today they definitely solidified some emotional ground for both Ruhi and Raman.
Yes Raman has to woo her back because the ge broke her but I must say he is lucky she still loves him despite him hurting her deeply
Second Raman making the first connection with Ruhi , i also observed the same. Ruhi being similar in nature as Raman them connecting emotionally first makes sense.. also with his gestures he is definitely making progress and she is connecting with him. And also you are right about the fact that these two need to claim Ishita for her to give her love to them.. she will not do it on her own.. even the first time around it's Ruhi who claimed Ishita.. then she brought father and daughter together by encouraging Raman to express his abundant love for his daughter.
Her staying far away from father and daughter and not intruding their moment - i don't think there is a change in her resolve on how much to be involved in father daughter bond..
There is no official status given to their relation because they were husband and wife before and there is no official divorce yet it's probably looked as husband and wife and no reason to correct it for the outsiders.. we surely know Ishita still considers Raman as her husband and she clearly stated that with Mani.. for Raman he is not sure.. because for Pihu Shags is her mom and and she and her papa are married long back.. and he sees no reason to change it.. he may or may not marry Shags but he will maintain status quo if need be.. Ruhi and Adi are grown up and if Ruhi comes to Raman she will also understand just like Adi did with his papa and mamma relationship.. though they may like to have their Ishima i don't think they will be ready to break little Pihu's heart as she is the apple of the family.. that's why he clearly said Ruhi was bond between him and Ishita but didn't say biwi but until now he hasn't expressed a strong desire to stay or wanting Ishita back yet.. (not going to consider OLVs until they air)
Overall nice epi.

I think after the PTA meeting when he gave Ishita a reality check, Raman has forgotten that Ishita is not his wife. he has come alive again and they are almost normal with each other as before. Except for the couch and bed syndrome.

As of now, the way I see it, ishita considers Raman as her husband and will do so as long as she lives, whether Raman takes her back in his life or no, she wont marry again.

For Raman, it seems he has made a mess with Shagun wedding and Pihu, but he is quick to agree to marry Ishita coz he sees this as a golden opportunity to make Ishita stay back with him. In fact he did not ask Shagun neither is he even thinking about Mani. Which is surprising since all these days we were attributing his abuses to jealousy. So in a way Raman needs to remarry ishita to undo the half-wedding to Shagun and Ruhi wants to ensure that Shagun does not manipulate Raman using Pihu again, so while Pihu is away she may want this to happen..

Now in his Ruhi ke liye mode, Raman is jumping at the opportunity of getting ishita back, he has forgotten what he did with Shagun and that there is Pihu who he will need to explain, he is now in Ruhi ke liye mode...

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sunitas123

@sunitas123

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: ramishi

But if raman still want to maintain his status quo with shagun for pihu's sake...what will he say now to pihu if ishita stays back even after ruhi's return to bhalla house?...as for the time being they told pihu that haar wali aunty is staying with him just to bring ruhi to bhalla house from nidhi's clutches but what next?...also will ruhi and adi both will address ishita as haar wali aunty in front of pihu so that she doesn't get heart broken?...ok lets say they doesn't want to disclose ishita's identity to pihu so that she remains happy but what about ruhi?...for how long they are going to hide ruhi's real identity from pihu?...what will ruhi call raman as...papa or mr raman bhalla or uncle?

How about bina haarwaale uncle?😆

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sunitas123

@sunitas123

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: sunitas123

I think after the PTA meeting when he gave Ishita a reality check, Raman has forgotten that Ishita is not his wife. he has come alive again and they are almost normal with each other as before. Except for the couch and bed syndrome.

As of now, the way I see it, ishita considers Raman as her husband and will do so as long as she lives, whether Raman takes her back in his life or no, she wont marry again.

For Raman, it seems he has made a mess with Shagun wedding and Pihu, but he is quick to agree to marry Ishita coz he sees this as a golden opportunity to make Ishita stay back with him. In fact he did not ask Shagun neither is he even thinking about Mani. Which is surprising since all these days we were attributing his abuses to jealousy. So in a way Raman needs to remarry ishita to undo the half-wedding to Shagun and Ruhi wants to ensure that Shagun does not manipulate Raman using Pihu again, so while Pihu is away she may want this to happen..

Now in his Ruhi ke liye mode, Raman is jumping at the opportunity of getting ishita back, he has forgotten what he did with Shagun and that there is Pihu who he will need to explain, he is now in Ruhi ke liye mode...

One more thing Raman said today after saying Ruhi is the dor between him and Ishita, he did express hope that it will be forever and that she has brought the family back, both Romi and Ishita back. If you see today Raman looked happy with Romi, even brought his name in his speech...so in a way he is wanting all this to be true...forever

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ramishi

@ramishi

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: sunitas123

One more thing Raman said today after saying Ruhi is the dor between him and Ishita, he did express hope that it will be forever and that she has brought the family back, both Romi and Ishita back. If you see today Raman looked happy with Romi, even brought his name in his speech...so in a way he is wanting all this to be true...forever

Yes in one of the new OLV also he said...he thought everything will be fine but now evrything is slipping from his hands( mujhe laga sab kuch thik ho jayega leking sab mere haton se phisal raha hai)

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