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Posted: 10 years ago
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Had been meaning to make this post since some time now but couldn't get around to it due to some constraints from my end but tonight just had to do it.

The Bhalla family was reuniting, happy times were almost around the corner when like a dream that seems too good to be true it all came crashing down in an instant and all thanks to a member of the family itself. A girl so absorbed in her greed and pettiness that even when her mother fainted in front of her eyes she was so blinded by her greed and ego that she failed to recognize the reality in front of her eyes.

As she hurled accusations at her mother and sister-in-law, spoke ill of her brother once again, no one once rebuked her as she should have been.

Everyone just let her spew venom, hurl filth, and excused her behavior by branding it as her childishness, her immaturity, called her a child.

I have seen this happen myself for real and I don't know whether I wanna be appalled or applaud the CVs who are addressing this issue here.

How many times do we see someone make mistakes, grave errors but then find no one taking things seriously or the wrongdoer forgiven or even go unpunished all because he is a bachha or she is a bachhi, eventually they will grow up...but the question remains HOW?

When Toshiji learned, somehow of Rinki being the root cause of things, instead of making her wayward daughter realize her mistakes, she took it upon herself to ensure her wish was fulfilled instead and approached Ishita to convey the news of the recently booked flat. For a woman who has raised four children, the most Toshiji did was think to herself when will this girl grow up, have some sense but did nothing to the effect.

Isn't it her mistake as a mother then that is also a reason for Rinki being allowed to behave so callously?

On one end we have a parent who passed his judgement against his eldest not knowing the whole issue just based on a half heard conversation and a partially viewed scene on the other end we have a parent who has the knowledge of what transpired entirely and even she chooses to make her oldest realize the value of family, teach her other son how expensive a lifestyle they have but never once takes it upon her to actually set the wrongs right the way they should be.

Should Romi and Rinki, respect, love and value Raman and Ishita only for the fact that they bear expenses of the family and never let anyone want for anything, should it be always Raman who has to slog for the wellbeing of his entire family even at the cost of throwing away the savings that are rightfully deserved and the inheritance of his children and belong in equal measures to his wife so long as they both are around?

What then is the difference between what Mr. Bhalla did and what Toshiji is doing?

Did she once sit down with her husband to let him know the reality of what caused the quarrel among her children? Fine Romi learned his brother loves him and begged his apology on his own without the impetus of paying the bills that would be levied upon him but what about his rudeness with Ishita, the way he humiliated her, the woman who has forgiven his mistakes so many times, one even involving a scandal related to her own sister or the fact that she and her family, Vandu and Bala too have never reminded Romi of what he cost them when he played his dirty games with them for his own benefit, shouldn't it be also a mother' responsibility to teach her son some manners?

Romi and Rinki are being forgiven and will always be for their mistakes no matter how grave they might be because they are kids...they being the younger siblings always shall have the advantage of this fact, even when they cross the ripe old age of 50 and 60, but for how long should this adage be enough to sweep their mistakes under the carpet forever?

How will they ever learn from their mistakes if no one reprimands them, guides them or does anything about it

I know this is an issue that transpires in many a homes but wish after a certain point of time, parents or the older siblings do acknowledge the simple truth that though a certain someone will always be a bachha or bachhi for them, they do need to grow up and it cant happen with a miracle.

Apologies in advance, since I dont know if I would be able to make replies to anyone 😳

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Posted: 10 years ago
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You made an individual thread! Yay!

Edited.

Wonderful post, Aani! I concur with everything you said.

What's happening in Bhalla family right now- I've seen it happen so closely, it feels personal. Raman and Ishita are cursed for life. Raman because he was the first born to such parents and Ishita because she's married to him. Everything is their responsibility. No matter how much they do- it's never gonna be enough. They can't satisfy anyone or be eligible to have some kind of gratitude shown towards them.

The rest of the Bhalla children are so damn lucky! Like, I said, I've seen this happening, so I can guarantee that they'd never change. They'd never learn from their mistakes because no one ever makes them pay! It was and still is very poor parenting from Mr. and Mrs. Bhalla but I blame Raman and Ishita too. How many times have they forgiven Romi? When will they let him finally pay for his mistakes, when he commits a murder? As of now, I don't have hope.


Rinki- I don't know who she is anymore! She looks like the old Rinki but everything about her screams Shagun! What kinda person can't stand her brother sitting and smiling with the family? Mr. Bhalla seems to be deaf to her cruel words.

Mr. Bhalla is showing a whole new side to him. I thought he was the most sensible one in the Bhalla clan. But since this track started- the way he's acting with Raman and Ishita it makes me wonder is this new change a result of the company ownership transfer?

Mrs. Bhalla- I get her intentions. They are good but her approach is so wrong! She's trying to show her husband and kids that Raman takes care of the family without ever mentioning it. But the thing is, what if Raman wasn't this rich guy who walks with a signed check? What if Raman was an average service holder? What if he only provided for his nuclear family like everyone else? Wouldn't there be anything in him and Ishita that still commanded respect?

I'm gonna be so disappointed if the family reunites. I know Raman and Ishita would be heart broken if that doesn't happen but some heart breaks are good. Some heart breaks can save you a life time of ill-treatment and regret. This is one of them.


P.S. I have to add how impress I am with Resha Konkar. It looks like she's been given Shagun's old scripts but she's playing the character how it should've been all along- with more than one expression!



Edited by Wings-of-Fire - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Awesome thread Aani and I loved the effort you took to pin point to such life touching realities.
In our families, elders do pamper the younger kids and keep saying, "he or she is small na...so give it to him/her"
I have heard this many a times but never once do parents close their eyes to the mistakes committed by younger ones...
Here Mr Bhalla's character has been ruined beyond repair and we are left wondering where is the man who was so steady, stable and sane in his relationships with all his kids and other family members. He was shown as a person who knew, and understood Raman Bhalla in every manner. When the show started, he was shown having a sore relationship with Raman and that was only due to some fight with Shagun and then Raman's careless attitude to Ruhi. But after that issue was solved, Mr Bhalla never once misunderstood or tried to search for hidden meanings in Raman's angry words. He knew that his son had no bell or brake when he was angry and so Mr Bhalla used to be the calm, understanding father who knew that no matter what, Raman would be his support for life.

But now, Raman has all of a sudden become his spoilt son and he doesnt want Raman to interfere in his family matters nor even attend to his own ailing mother.
His daughter and younger son has become closer. I really wonder if this is all so easy in real life...Anger, fights, all on one side but then in reality can a father alienate or misunderstand a son so much. and that too a son who has give his heart and soul for the entire family's happiness.



Calling Rinki a bacchi always and letting her get away with the tantrums and taunts she throws up on Ishita and Raman is most ridiculous and beyond my understanding level.

What if there is a fight, will you let the younger one throw up like that on the elders?? its OTT and I just hope, Rinki learns her lessons the hard way and no short cut is provided for her just because she is a so called 'bacchi'
If she was a bacchi, then why even get desperate to marry her off?? ghar pe bada karke shaadi karwaate...bechaare MIhir...he was so peaceful and happy in his life. Ofc MIhika's going away was a jhatka for him but he was happy otherwise. Rinki's greed and foolishness is making him insane and surely Ashok's traps are going to hit him too. What mistake did Mihir do to deserve all that?


Anyways, pls CVs, let the baccha and bacchi grow up properly...and make them realize their mistakes completely...no half baked stuffs!

Edited by vidya.anand - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Aani wonderful points raised...and frankly as much as I loved the build up for misunderstanding ..this week things have gone downhill...I absolutely cannot connect with the fact that two married adults and one with a kid too ..how can they be labeled as Bachcha or bachchi? And Bhallaji looked at Ishita and Toshiji's actions (ridiculous plan as it absolutely didnt make sense at all😕) but totally overlooked their positive intent behind such actions. And when everyone can see Rinki hellbent on spoiling the home environment...creating strife within the family...why the heck no one for once stopped her?... I never understood why a brother needs to help fulfil his married sister's outrageous wishes...it was not that Rinki didnt have a roof over her head...

So yeah this week ..nothing makes sense ...and from the look of it...the consummation/surrogacy possibility to fulfil Ruhi's wish for a sibling is getting stronger...Why cant any of the adults talk to Ruhi and explain to her she's already got a sibling and loads of cousins to play with, even two little ones...why make it so much pressure on a couple that they have to have a biological kid...The way they are building it up, it's like if Ishra don't have a biological kid of their own, the world will come to an end...hence they would seek surrogacy as probably it would be shown that Ishita still has problems that would inhibit normal conception..For me I truly feel the CVs have turned the Ishra love track, their child track ...their relationship a big joke now... and truly joke is on us for believing in the journey that Ishra would come full circle with them consummating their marriage as they are so deeply in love...truly become a couple in all aspects...but now their consummation( if it happens at all) is going to turn into a baby making process...It's a shame that in the land where Kamasutra was conceived, the normal intimacy, desire between a married couple, a very much in love couple is portrayed as an act of abnormal behavior and is endorsed by the creative brains of the top PH and top GEC on Indian telly industry.

And after precap my kostin stays the same after I had watched the news segment...How is Shagun privy to the details of Ishra's sexual life?...unless she's developed super power of bionic vision or did she set up some spy cam to satisfy her voyeuristic curiosity about her ex and his current wife.🤢 ?

Sorry Aani I diverted from the main topic a bit at the end...but couldn't control my displeasure at how things are shaping up.
Edited by -Gan- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Today Bhalla ji was a much bigger put off than he has been recently. How rudely he rebuked Raman once again not letting him meet his sick mother. Now who is creating differences in the family?
Does a father really has such a big ego? Raman said sorry in that small reunion. Wasn't that enough? So what if it was planned? Raman's reaction was genuine. How happy he was eating with his family. Everything fell off like a house of cards by one blow from a self absorbed person who is drenched in greed.
Mr. Bhalla was a major put off today. He had nothing to say to Rinki but hurled rude words to his son n daughter in law. He also questioned Raman's willingness to get back home.

Rinki is such a horrible sister; such a disrespectful daughter.
How can anyone be so mean? No one in the family tried to stop her. Romi too kept quite.
Even romi raman reunion was incomplete. Just one sorry n everything forgotten? What about apologizing to ishita, bala, mihir?
Edited by nb.neha - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Raman is true son of Mr bhalla...his attitude ...love for family...everything is so similar...that proved today...
...I like this drama very much...all characters are in limelight
Raman was taking so much footage today .manana roothna was cute..ishu looked so divine
Ok now my pov
I think that there are characters like rinky in real life...and I can totally connect to her...sooner or later she will realize and get back...these kind of issues crop up in a joint family...let's see how they sort out the whole matter
Raman getting angry with ishu was not wrong but in anyways toshi and ishu wanted them to patch up quickly..so I felt they were trying at least coz Raman and bhallaji wouldn't budge...ego clashes...it's so good to watch these sensitive issues on screen with ur fav actors...I request cvs to not end abruptly
Hoping for a good ishu pregnancy track...but don't know what twister is headed for us with this manoj being fertility expert and love interest of shags.
Writers can we have just one party sequence which is romantic and not dramatic

A sincere request ...it's high time that ishra shouldn't get affected by shashok...it's boring now...they have moved on but it doesn't seem so...one of the forum member keeps mentioning about closure of Raman and Shagun...plz stick to that and lock it zip it ...coz it's disgusting

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Aani, wonderfully written, so aptly put. To me the entire Bhalla clan are a selfish lot, other than Raman. Most of them are all full of themselves, that they seldom understand what it takes Raman to give them whatever they desire. To me Romi never had a redemption for all the kaands he did, though Ishita's influence did seem to rub off on him a little. Toshiji too is quick to blame Ishita the minute anything goes wrong. Having known the reason for the rift, she still has not said a word to Rinki.
Rinki hates Raman and Ishita so much these days, it is just incredible! It also appears that she hates Mihir as he cant seem to measure up to her expectations. But who is even bothered to show her the mirror? Rinki is taking a huge risk with her marriage- she clearly knows Mihir even gave up his sister for Raman, who he worships. So, esp after taking a house from Ashok Khanna, I dont see any future in Rinki's marriage. She had the gall to create a rift yet again today. All she seems to be doing is coming to Bhalla house, saying awful things, and ensuring that Bhallaji remains pissed off with Raman and now even Toshiji. What is the need for her to visit Bhalla house now? She got what she wanted, but it seems like she is now wanting Raman's doom, much like Ashok Khanna and that is really scary😲😲. It is a vicious web that has been spun- it all started with Rinki wanting the moon from Mihir, wanting him to leave Raman and now she wants the worse to happen to Raman - convoluted logic...

So now if you look at Bhallaji and Toshiji, it is not difficult to understand that they have been awful parents to both the younger siblings, making them irresponsible and spoilt. I was surprised Toshiji did not even seem shocked that Rinki accepted a flat from Ashok?

I am glad Ishita did tell Bhallaji the truth. I want Rinki to insult Bhallaji- only then he can understand what Rinki has really become...

In all this feel really sorry for Mihir, he is stuck with a Shagun-like creature for a wife...😡😡😭

I think the payment of the bill must have also played on Romi's mind, even though he seemed to feel sorry.If Romi henceforth decides to take care of part of the expenses and apologizes to ishita and Mihir, he would be partly redeemed for the awful stuff that he has been doing over the last 18 months or so...

Ruhi Arora is back and I dont like it one bit😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
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updated my rant-wa 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i am very happy with the things you have mentioned in this thread.. even i am of the same view.. God knows what the CVs are trying to convey😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for voicing it out, Aani!

RES for detailed thoughts.

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Wonderful posts Aani, Gan, Wings-Of-Fire (sorry don't know your name 😳), Kavya and everyone else! 👏 👏 👏

This track is so wonderfully similar to the events that happen in real-life and in joint families that all of us here, can not only relate to different circumstances, but have our own individual interpretations of a single situation. Like most of the people here, I too, have had similar personal experiences, and so I have to say, people like Rinki & Romi do exist out there, and so do parents like Bhalla ji and Toshi ji.

Coming to the YHM story, Rinki is beyond redemption for now. These days I consider her worse than Shagun, because when Shagun did what she did, she broke an existing happy family, Raman & the Bhallas had not had any hardships (except monetary) until then. But Rinki, she's seen a broken family, she's seen her eldest brother (who btw calls her 'beta') go through the worst phase of his life, she's seen his father & brother staying away from each other and hurting themselves, she's seen li'l Ruhi being brought up without parental love, and to add to that, she's also seen her elder sister's life almost ruined by a disgusting man, who is also, always after money. Rinki's doing what she's doing AFTER she's seen all this with her own eyes, experienced it herself, and THAT is what makes me cringe more than Shagun's doings.

And nobody in the family holding her accountable, except Mihir and maybe Ishita yesterday, is worse. She is unable to comprehend how she's hurting her own family in the worst possible manner. She's unable to comprehend how she's breaking her own marriage apart. Mihir's words to Raman before he left for USA, "Rinky ne already itna tamasha khada kar rakha hai" (meaning Rinki has already been so ridiculously dramatic) shows how her respect in her husband's eyes has fallen down.

And to brush everything off, despite knowing the crux of the issue, because she's a kid, is the height of ignorance on Toshi ji's behalf. And here, is another parenting flaw, if I can call it so. Toshi ji was the one who wanted to marry Rinki off at any cost, she was the one who forced Ishita to talk to Rinki and get her to agree, she was the one who thought Rinki's life was over when her groom turned out to be a cheat, she is the one responsible for her marriage to Mihir. The way I see it as - Rinki was genuinely not ready for getting married, emotionally & mentally. She was coaxed. And THIS IS WHAT has led to from that line of thought. It was imperative that she complete her studies, step out into the world without her brother's support, experience corporate cut-throatism and understand how hard it is to work and earn and support a family. If she would've gotten that experience, she'd have never questioned Raman's decisions or instigated Mihir or aim for moon without ever having sat in an aircraft on her own. Everything that she's done and is still doing, is because of her immaturity. And now that she is married, nobody's telling her to responsible. Not even Toshi, who knows her daughter is at the core of the issue. Till when will Raman & Ishita suffer because of Rinki? Till when should Mihir suffer because of her, and why? She's not a kid anymore, and she shouldn't be treated like so.

I think the only redemption for her now is if Mihir lets her out his house, and Bhallas don't take her in, and tells her to prove her self-worth. Even then what she's done to the family will never be forgivable.

For Romi, I'm really astonished how he has been let off the hook every single time. He maligned a girl's reputation, he led an innocent couple through a series of financial crunches, he got a girl pregnant and ran away from his responsibility, he stole from his brother's office because it was shameful for him to share the truth with his family (or his brother at least), and now he insults his elder brother, his wife, his own brother-in-law and his brother's brother-in-law who happens to be his ex-teacher, and nobody tells him to stay quiet. And Toshi, she thinks that the only way to make him realise his recent wrong-doing is by showing him how difficult it is to support the house financially. How about showing him a mirror of all his kaands? How will he ever learn to not do any kaand in the first place? Sure, he has now realized his brother loves him, and feels guilty. But what is the guarantee something like this will not happen again? Why is he forgiven every time, just because he's the younger one? What values will he teach his kid? What stories will he tell Rohit? Or will Raman & Ishita be responsible for his kids again?

I don't know what to say to Mr. Bhalla. He has always judged / fought with Raman, from the Shagun times to Ishita times. I agree Raman was in the wrong then, but he is not now. He's never once behaved like this with Simmi (who was still attached to Param for the longest of times, and meeting him behind everyone's backs), or Romi (need I count all his karaamaats again?) or Rinki (who has now gone ahead and taken Ashok's help, insulting both - her brother and her husband - in one go). Are all his sanskaars and duties only meant for Raman & his wife to follow? What kind of a father is he if he can't imbibe the same values in all his kids?

Sorry I digressed here and there, but the crux remains the same. People, and especially Raman & Ishita, need to stop forgiving Romi & Rinki, make them stand on their own feet - physically, financially and emotionally, just the way Mihir stands on his own despite being of similar age. I think we expect so much sensibility from YHM CVs & PH is because they have proven in the past that they can be true to real-life AND deliver amazing messages in brilliant sequences. Seeing them falling prey to kitchen politics is, hence, not acceptable at all.
Edited by -Nidoo- - 10 years ago

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