27.07.15 - I stand by Raman for leaving the house

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"If you allow people to make more withdrawals than deposits in your life, you will be out of balance and in the negative. Know when to close the account" - Christie Williams



My expectations of Toshi ji have been laid to rest.😔

My perception of Bhalla ji has been ground to dust.😔
My bewilderment at Ishita's overtly trusting, positive mindset is reaching eye-popping levels

How conveniently Bhalla ji declared that Raman had left the house, without bothering to explain the context behind it! Well...he himself has been acting like an unreasonable 'authority' and a partial witness to the sordid family drama in the household for almost a week now, without intervening and doing anything positive to curb the damage. Toh unhe khud hi context samajh mein nahin aaya hai...but then the exact feelings he harboured in his heart, for Raman...were shameful, indeed...

"Bahut bada aadmi ban gaya hai...apne bhai behnon ko bojh samajhne laga hai..." I do not understand. Once. Just ONE time in his life Raman made a move to secure his wife and children's future, think about himself without the baggage of familial responsibilities, and he has been branded an irresponsible, arrogant, callous son in minutes...by his own father, who hasnt said it but deems Raman a failure. Such unfairness, such hypocrisy😡...Somewhere deep down in his mind Raman is expected to foot the bills of his siblings' regular needs as well as extravagant excesses (that Rinky and Romi had been doing up until this point)...without due consideration that its all a product of Raman's hard work, determination, the sleepless nights he has spent working to accomplish that big in life...and that he also has a family and its high time he be allowed to think just for himself, without being made to feel guilty.😕

For that, for the sheer neglect towards his DIL and for never standing up for her the way he did for Rinky and Romi and Sarika, AND for grossly misunderstanding the Raman to the point of alienating him, HE is an epic failure to me, as a parent.😡

I watched Saturday's episode, but since real life and reel life have unfortunately coincided in a bad way, reviewing the episode would've been too much for me last Saturday. Nevertheless, the way Bhalla ji blasted Raman for supposedly talking down to Sarika (and funnily enough, never does, when it comes to Ishita) and the way he "presented" the facts to Toshi ji in his own skewed, prejudiced, one-dimensional way - it seemed he had as much spite in his heart for his eldest child as did Rinky. He stood justified, and let down for no reason at all. It seemed to me, for a moment, that Raman Bhalla was merely a tool to be employed by the parasitic behaviors of his family, and nothing more.

The way Toshi slapped Raman in front of everyone - Ishita and all the Iyers...that PER SE, was wrong. I get motherly love and right and indignance and all of that, but thrashing your jawaan beta in front of his in-laws in THEIR house, is too much😡 When the senior Bhallas themselves have absolutely no control over their temper and zilch sense of time and place, its difficult to solely crucify Raman for this aberration in his normally suave CEO personality.



The fact that she did not even ASK Raman why he left the house taking his wife and children with him, pissed me off more. The fact that she expected her eldest son to bear the brunt of his father's prejudice/anger, whatever the reason may be, just because he is ageing and is THE father, did not sit down well with me. I had an impression that age made people wiser. It didnt drive them to commit such glaring follies in respect of one person while being absolutely hunky-dory with others. The fact that she made that overtly melodramatic speech at the expense of her son's plight and silence, and believed Raman may have committed a mistake really made me pity Raman's situation.

The fact that she even blamed Ishita for being unable to stop her husband from making this move, despite being proved time and again of her dedication towards the family made me feel she didnt see Ishita as a human being. Ishita Iyer Bhalla was merely a caricature modeled to fit Bhalla family's myriad, unreasonable needs...and that she was never allowed to fall. But why should Ishu have stopped her husband from leaving a home where he and his wife were no longer respected or understood? So in no way had she fallen by following Raman out of the house...The fact that Toshi was allowed to travel the ends of the earth for HER husband, but Ishita doing so was a deviance in her eyes, is sheer hypocrisy. The fact that she didnt bother to expect these same things from any of her other children borders on negligence on her part as a parent, and that she had assumed Raman would make fine, responsible, conscientious human beings of these spoilt, immature brats without ever investing time in them, is idiotic😡

The fact that Simmi, who has remained untouched till now and has been a silent witness of ALL that has happened over the past week, remained quiet - despite knowing the truth, made her fall in my eyes. She was the ONLY sensible link connected to Both sides of the warring Bhallas...she could've prevented immenent damage...but she didnt...

The fact that in a flash Toshi assumed the worst of Raman after ALL he has done for the family over and over and over and over again, made HER too fall in my eyes in a way I cannot easily get past😕

Of course, Toshi slumping off unconscious was inserted for some MORE melodrama..

Ishita fetched the doctor, who concluded Toshi had fainted due to high BP and was now okay...she even stood outside the door, contemplating whether or not to enter Bhalla house, having crossed over to the "other side" and then decided she didnt care which side she was on...as long as she made a concrete move to resolve this ghastly situation...at that moment, she shone like a beacon of light in YHM that's slowly getting darker and uglier...

I was even more impressed by the firmness with which she declared she wanted a word ALONE with her mother-in-law..neither of the siblings (Simmi and Romi) were spared, they had to leave the room...but nor was Bhalla ji..he too had to leave the room...I had immense respect for the show of courage Ishita put up there.

The fact that she initiated a conversation with Toshi despite the latter turning her face away and trying to act dismissive of her, was praiseworthy. Ooh well! Ishita was still the DIL of the house and had every right to question her MIL, talk to her...

But I will admit, I was extremely disappointed with what she said next...she asked Toshi to support her in this mission of "uniting the warring parties" and all...but she did not once recreate the narrative of whatever happened in the last few days...though her allegiance lies with the family also, her PRIMARY priority lies with her husband, who needs SOMEONE who could put HIS perspective forward as well...

"Haan Raman ne ki hai galati" she admitted.



I am sorry, but nowhere was Raman wrong. I am not in agreement with people who think losing all your self-respect in front of a bunch of selfish buffoons posing as family is acceptable, and leaving the house to avoid a combustible situation ahead is a "galati" by a far, far stretch. Its not. THERE, Ishita made a mistake by NOT explaining the context in which Raman had to take this step. When she talked of being a sherni for this noble cause, she made a mistake of NOT standing up fiercely for her husband's right and honor and telling the MIL the plain, unvarnished truth. When one party tries too hard to keep peace and maintain relationships, he inevitably becomes the one who remains forever on the giving end, without ever receiving that which he gives in equal or even half measure😕

WHAT makes Ishita think this move of going away from the family for a few days is wrong? That means she doubts her husband's foresight, does she? So is it feasible to continue staying in such a hostile environment where for no reason, one is blamed and belittled continuously?

You know, at times like these, where people like Ishita need to don the authoritative, no-nonsense avtar to right things...they continue in their submissive, overly compliant selves making themselves vulnerable to more such humiliation and exploitation by people who think they are entitled to all such virtuosity...and if Ishita continues to belittle this essential move taken by Raman, she might just weaken the pulse of his fight...and he, definitely, is MORE on the right side than any of the Bhallas are...

I really felt more than Toshi ji needing things to come back to status quo at the drop of a hat, it was Raman who needed Ishita on his side...I so desperately kept wishing Ishita would present the reality of the situation to Toshi...not sugarcoat things...coz I totally believe, IshRa NEED to stay away from the Bhallas for a while...to reclaim their importance in the latter's lives...No matter how good Ishita's intentions are right now, what's needed is some firmness and some perspective...to see things and people as they REALLY are, not as she would LIKE to see them

It was HEARTBREAKING to see Adi blaming himself for the rift...the departure from Bhalla house...but equally cozy to see his sister taking care of him like an angel...putting balm on his wounded soul...



again, it was heart-rending to see Ruhi cry...she is traumatized by the force of Raman's move...as well as the intensity of the anger her father displayed this time around...


The family is in shambles...but it would be wrong to say its because its coz of Raman leaving the house. No, its coz of the selfish, retarded, inconsiderate egoistic Bhallas that Raman had to leave the house in the first place..

I expect the CVs to do complete justice to this track rather than end it with something ludicrous as Raman's murder (I hope for heaven's sakes its a hoax) or something on the lines of slapstick comedy which has been incorporated gazillions of times to ease the tension building up in such high-voltage drama...please CVs..do not degrade and disrespect your own FABULOUS creation. Please end this track in a realistic, RIGHT manner...I understand EK's soaps cant do without a generous serve of family values et al, but its high time they give as much importance to individuals as they do to family units. They need to stop glorifying family and all that it entails...its getting annoying actually😕


P.S. I cannot get past the look on Raman's face...when he got slapped...
I mean, WHO gives parents the right to behave like such hooligans in the first place😡 Just because I have produced a human being, does it give me the ownership over that human being? Disgusting...Hats off to Raman for putting up with all this shit...but I hope, against hope, that this time Raman persist in his fight and not give in so easily...take lots of time..maintain distance..and make it CLEAR to his selfish, ungrateful family, that he's got a LIFE too😡


PRECAP - Rinky informed Toshi of the new 5BHK flat Mihir has booked in Mayur Vihar...
I have NO idea why a 2 person family needs a 5BHK flat in the first place...but instead of admonishing Rinky about being such a spendthrift and an inconsiderate witch for pressurising her husband into doing such things, she was busy narrating this incident to Ishita, wondering how Mihir would manage all of this...

Pray, WHY would you do that if you yourself understand that your daughter is behind the rift in your family right now? And why would you expect your eldest to STILL bear the brunt of your younger children's extravagance?? This has got to STOP.😡 And after getting to know all this, will Ishita STILL trust Toshi to be a fair partner in this "mission" they've set out on together? I dont. I am damn well sure Toshi will buckle down to the popular trend running in their family right now...

I guess even Toshi, deep down, wants Raman to sacrifice HIS own life and interests and keep making his siblings' lives secure till eternity. Am disgusted. and deeply pained...I hope Raman refuses...

And right now, more than being nice and compliant and forgiving, Ishita needs to buck up, stand by her husband and DRAW BOUNDARIES. Coz I fear Toshi may end up burdening Ishita too much with her expectations of her an an ideal DIL of the house...

As of now, I stand by Raman for taking a much-needed stand and maintaining distance from his family till their brains come back into place and I hope Ishita wont pressurize him into going back to Bhalla House before everybody's learnt their lessons well


P.S. On a sad note, former President APJ Abdul Kalam passed away some time ago😭..he was 84...what a luminary he was! may be rest in peace...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ur take was bang on.
Seriously this is unbelievable. Now they will show that Raman & Ishita again will join with the Bhallas soon. I never liked Toshiji before & after today's episode she is a dud.

Ishita-the mahaan how easily she said that it was Raman's mistake. Yes his mistake was that he cared about the self respect of his stupid wife.

So Cvs butchered this track too. No hopes in the show here after.

P.S:- Nobody should have a mom like Toshiji & wife like Jagatmata Ishita.
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Hi Aka...lovely review, as always! Always a treat to read!

Coincidence Toshi returns and so does YHM's melodrama? I think not.

I liked todays episode barring the slap and the way Toshi reached conclusions without hearing both parties.

I feel for Puttar. 😭

I really liked the conversation between Ishita and Toshi...DT's acting was bang on..My dad, who isn't a fan of Ishita was really amazed by it and loved it.😆😆

Loved the scene with Adi-Ruhi...Ruhi is really matured beyond her years and loved the sisterly love she showered upon Adi.. Love Roo baby during these scenes. She really is her Ishimaa's daughter. Also loved how she put up a brave front in front of her upset brother and then went on and cried on her own over her family falling apart. 😭

No major Ishra scenes today But I really liked todays episode..especially ishita's tone when she conveyed to the family she wanted to speak to her MIL alone. Her stern tone with Romi was bang on. All credit to DT...Sometimes, I feel like Ishita is DT's creation more than it is Kekta's/Cvs.😳

I'm just glad Toshi knows the real culprit behind all these misunderstandings and she is standing by her bahu's side to solve the rift in the family.

Puttar, tho. 😭 I admit, I have always been biased towards Ishita and loved her more than Puttar but during this track, Puttar has won me over...😳

Saw the SBS/SBB seems like this issue will be solved soon..within this week. 😕

Also there is a rumour about Ishra honeymooning in Paris..not sure how legit but IMAGINE


P.S just wanted to say...the hug in Saturdays episode...oh my god.

P.S.S Puttar had a haircut...LIKE, FINALLY!!

OMG, did you HAVE to put up a picture of Puttar being all sad? My heart hurts..😭😭🥺 but man does he look yum

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey i love ur take on every episode and this one was as usually bang on..👏
I really did not understand how can raman be wrong..😭
So does that mea thinking of ur wife and children be4 ur siblings is bad??😕
The man who was there to satisfy every whim and fancy of the Bhalla Parivaar is now sidelined😡
and the most annoying part was Toshiji slapping raman just by hearing a half baked story..in front of his in-laws 🤢

P.S-plzz cannot see raman like that anymore..just love the way the emotions of Raman are being wonderfully portrayed by KP😳

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Love your write ups
But I was kind of confused with Ishita.
She knows her husband is hurt and not wrong in leaving the house although he is also not right. I did not liked that she did not fill in to toshi that what actually happened behind her back.

But If we look from her POV, she is still a DIL of house and her explaining situation to toshi would look like a ear filling to others. But I am glad she said ' Raman ki bhi galati thi' not ' sirf Raman ki galti h'. May be she didn't want to critisize her FIL ,BIl n sil. Ithink it's better if simmi explains the happening to toshi.
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Originally posted by: kaa1202

Ur take was bang on.

Seriously this is unbelievable. Now they will show that Raman & Ishita again will join with the Bhallas soon. I never liked Toshiji before & after today's episode she is a dud.

Ishita-the mahaan how easily she said that it was Raman's mistake. Yes his mistake was that he cared about the self respect of his stupid wife.

So Cvs butchered this track too. No hopes in the show here after.

P.S:- Nobody should have a mom like Toshiji & wife like Jagatmata Ishita.


Yep...it is unbelievable...I dont think even if this issue gets resolved in the next few days, I can ever look at the rest of the Bhallas the same way like I did before...

I dont think Ishita was being mahaan or anything, coz even in real life I have seen and known people who CONSTANTLY put others before themselves...and this is a behavior trait that exists...

all I feel is, its high time she be firm and restricted with her forgiving, easygoing nature...her in-laws are constantly taking advantage of the same

Toshi, Ive heard is gonna heap more burdensome responsibilities on her beta and bahu😡
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Hi Aka...lovely review, as always! Always a treat to read! Thanks yaar...I

Coincidence Toshi returns and so does YHM's melodrama? I think not. Haha...ur right...

I liked todays episode barring the slap and the way Toshi reached conclusions without hearing both parties. The slap was uncalled for, especially since she hadnt heard Raman out for even a second..

I feel for Puttar. 😭 My heart broke...even that is an understatement of what I felt for him😭

I really liked the conversation between Ishita and Toshi...DT's acting was bang on..My dad, who isn't a fan of Ishita was really amazed by it and loved it.😆😆 To be honest, I didnt like the conversation when it looked like Ishu was only asking Toshi to support her in this mission...I was expecting her to even TELL her the events of last week...was quite disappointed

Loved the scene with Adi-Ruhi...Ruhi is really matured beyond her years and loved the sisterly love she showered upon Adi.. Love Roo baby during these scenes. She really is her Ishimaa's daughter. Also loved how she put up a brave front in front of her upset brother and then went on and cried on her own over her family falling apart. 😭 Ohh yess! I hate seeing Roo cry...but it was apparent, she was only being strong for her brother;s sake...

No major Ishra scenes today But I really liked todays episode..especially ishita's tone when she conveyed to the family she wanted to speak to her MIL alone. Her stern tone with Romi was bang on. All credit to DT...Sometimes, I feel like Ishita is DT's creation more than it is Kekta's/Cvs.😳 Atii, I'll be honest..I liked the stern tone in which she conveyed she wanted to speak to Toshi...but I would have been happier had she narrated the REAL sequence of events that led up to Raman leaving the house..also, what Raman did was justified and so, to admit his folly in front of his mother in such a fragile, fractured situation makes theM BOTH look so vulnerable...like Raman can never do anything right despite doing ALL that needs to be done...I DIDNT like it, tbh

I'm just glad Toshi knows the real culprit behind all these misunderstandings and she is standing by her bahu's side to solve the rift in the family. Atii...I think we are being preemptively hopeful...the tone in which she was narrating the house thing to her, it seems she will expect Raman to pay up...my guess, coz she could have easily scolded Rinky for being such a thoughtless spender and a brat...but she didnt...I could be wrong...but it seems she will keep burdening IshRa with lots and lots of responsibilities...

Puttar, tho. 😭 I admit, I have always been biased towards Ishita and loved her more than Puttar but during this track, Puttar has won me over...😳 I have always loved Puttar a notch more than I love Iyer😆

Saw the SBS/SBB seems like this issue will be solved soon..within this week. 😕 Can you send me the link? Im sure the track will again end on a comic note, and I will hate it😡

Also there is a rumour about Ishra honeymooning in Paris..not sure how legit but IMAGINE I heard and read too😆I HOPE that happens ...WITHOUT ANY DRAMA OF ANY SORT


P.S just wanted to say...the hug in Saturdays episode...oh my god. I had only written a bit of the review, but was in a horrible mood and couldnt finish it..if possible, ill write a special one on saturday's hug😉😆

P.S.S Puttar had a haircut...LIKE, FINALLY!!

OMG, did you HAVE to put up a picture of Puttar being all sad? My heart hurts..😭😭🥺 but man does he look yum Had to...even when he is sad, he LOOKS HOT!!




CCR Atii!!
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Hi Akansha,
Nice review as usual.👏

Missed your review on Saturday because it was such a emotional episode.😭

Today was an okay episode for me. For most of the parts I did not like it but for the story to move on they need these types of episodes

I will start with things I did not like in this episode.

Ishita was definitely wrong when she said Raman took this decision based on EGO. I agree she was partially correct when she said he took the decision based on anger and the next word should have been HURT not EGO.

Toshjii acted like a wife not a mother. I am okay with that but I am not happy when she questioned Ishita why she stood by her husband when she can say nothing matters in the world except Bhallaji why doesn't the same rule applies to Ishita.

Bhallaji said that Raman went out because of his ego and doesn't care about his siblings and parents this shows he did not even understand his son and he did not tell what has transpired entirely to Toshjii. I gave him benefit of doubt during Rinki because fathers tend to protect the daughters more than the son. I would have been okay with him when he supported Sarika as a DIL without knowing the full information if he had supported Ishita when he was there from the start so for me it still feels that Raman transferring the company in Ishita name is the main trigger for him to hate Ishita and to have his insecurities surface up again which turned into a ego clash with his son even when the son tried to apologize he did not listen and one word from him Raman would have stopped from leaving instead he went inside the room and know blaming Raman for leaving the house in unacceptable.

I was okay with Toshjii coming in and slapping Raman because as a mother she has the right but she should see the place and people surrounding him he is not just a kid but a full grown man with a teenage kid on his own and she is also a wife who could not see her husband crying because of him but once she vented out her anger she should have found at the root cause of the problem but still I am keeping my hopes tomorrow she will get to know all of it if she does not and still blames Raman I am going to be mad. On a side note if Toshjii can act on her impulse and be angry with Raman why cannot Raman be short tempered.


Things I liked in the episode.

Raman even after getting slapped from his mother in front of his in-laws in their house did not say a word what made him take the decision but took all the verbal and physical slaps he got from his mother burying his hurt and respecting her. I was wondering when Toshjii said Bhallaji never says he his hurt to anyone I was wondering is she the same women who told Ishita and Bhallaji Raman never shares his hurt only his pillow know so why can't see understand him now for him to move out something major must have happened in her house.

Ishita suppressed angry look to Romi when she asked him to leave the room. I hope she keeps the suppressed anger on Romi and not forgive him easily. I also liked the fact she asked Simmi to leave and asked Bhallaji to leave with a please.

Ishita saying she wants to unite the family as she knows Raman won't be able to survive without his family but for once I want her to stand up for her husband hurt against her nature. She easily forgives everyone this time around she takes a stand for husband and not forgive his siblings easily that doesn't mean she does not do the deed of a perfect DIL she can do that but stop forgiving people easily and loving them.

Adi and Ruhi conversation was the highlight of the episode how a younger sister can bring in peace for her elder brother turmoil even though she has the same worry in her heart but in contrast to the adult Rinki who is the younger sister but bringing in trouble for her elder brother.

In answering your question Rama was not wrong in leaving the house but I hope at least Simmi will tell the whole situation to Toshjii tomorrow as she has been shown as the neutral one because Bahallji, Romi,Rinki and Sarika are all baised and IshRa won't open their mouth against any of them even when they know all of the them are wrong because that is how much they love them.

Toshjii should know the entire situation before she forms any kind of opinion and not just try to patch up the kids without making the younger ones realize the need to speak with elders with respect and Raman to control his anger and Bhallaji to be fair.


CV last week has shown a wonderful episodes starting of this week is not so great I seriously hope they give justification to Raman hurt instead of making him at fault for leaving the house.

On a side note there is a SBB or SSS or SBS I don't remember which but looks like Toshjii will be angry with Ishita because Raman backs out of giving money to Rinki for her flat because he has to give to Parmeet for Ananya custody without knowing this information Toshjii will blame IshRa.

They also show Romi and Raman hugging seriously I hope Romi groveled at Raman feet before Raman forgave him otherwise I am going to be mad at Raman for taking all these insults.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: wendy25

Love your write ups

But I was kind of confused with Ishita.
She knows her husband is hurt and not wrong in leaving the house although he is also not right. I did not liked that she did not fill in to toshi that what actually happened behind her back.

But If we look from her POV, she is still a DIL of house and her explaining situation to toshi would look like a ear filling to others. But I am glad she said ' Raman ki bhi galati thi' not ' sirf Raman ki galti h'. May be she didn't want to critisize her FIL ,BIl n sil. Ithink it's better if simmi explains the happening to toshi.


Hey Wendy!! I guess this is the first time you've posted on my thread😆so Hi again!

Thanks for the compliments..

Im sure she KNOWS how hurt Raman is right now, and also knows that he is right...so I dont understand why she said Raman ne galati ki hai, in front of Toshi

But yes, when it comes to a DIL's perspective...she may be right..but I dunno...I still feel she should've categorically told Toshi exactly what happened..and not leave it to Simmi or Romi or Bhalla ji to narrate, coz either they have been silent, or deviant of the real issues that have happened at Bhalla household...also, there was a time Toshi ji entrusted Ishu with the whole responsibility of her daughter's marriage...dont think she would have considered Ishita's speaking up, a kaanbharoing session...Simmi has let me down bad...she didnt speak up EVEN today...so can we expect her to be impartial? I dont know

either way, I was looking forward to an Ishita who isnt blinded by nonexistent virtues she thinks people have...and by jove, Raman, IMO was NOT wrong at all. He took the right decision at the right time. The environment at home had turned so hostile and unfair and it was all a blame game...


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Originally posted by: Anjelica.Karan

Hey i love ur take on every episode and this one was as usually bang on..👏

I really did not understand how can raman be wrong..😭
So does that mea thinking of ur wife and children be4 ur siblings is bad??😕
The man who was there to satisfy every whim and fancy of the Bhalla Parivaar is now sidelined😡
and the most annoying part was Toshiji slapping raman just by hearing a half baked story..in front of his in-laws 🤢

P.S-plzz cannot see raman like that anymore..just love the way the emotions of Raman are being wonderfully portrayed by KP😳


Exactly...am tired of EVERYBODY misunderstanding him...

and that's why I felt, even if Ishita wants to keep peace...she really needed to TELL THE TRUTH AS IT IS...instead of starting with, "Raman ne galti ki hai"...coz to be honest, Raman wasnt wrong this time around...

Toshi too got all combative without hearing Raman's side of the story...that;s so unfair..so sad

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