Nice brisk episode *Ishra's Reaction Collages pg 5** - Page 10

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Thanks Roshnee and yeah am a proud Potterhead

@bold - you have hit the nail on the head my friend, thats my belief

@blue - I dont get pissed per se, but I dont get it why do people perceive him as the victim, yeah he can be labeled as the product of his upbringing which kinda does make me feel bad for the boy he was, but I dont find myself half in love with him 😳

Yay! Another Potterhead!!

I do believe that Draco's personality was greatly shaped by his upbringing but that boy had an evil heart too. You don't wish somebody dead when you're 12 just because you were brought up to believe that you're a prince and everyone else is beneath you.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Gan I am posting that collage here - I could see it though 😕

Will edit and post it in another format

Guys got up and read through the new updates.. Have to say we have some awesome writers here in the thread... I feel privileged to open a thread where I get to read these awesome takes. Thank you!

Read your post and all the enthusiastic reply with great joy and (would you believe) satisfaction . So thank you.

In the forum, I've read so much about how Ishu is always glorified and Shagun is shown as a materialistic woman. This question has been troubling me since long now ... What is the purpose of CV's by depicting the two women in the manner they do? Perhaps, I'm not mature enough to understand!!! Why are there stark differences in Ishu & Shagun's personality?

Originally posted by: umeirah02

In the forum, I've read so much about how Ishu is always glorified and Shagun is shown as a materialistic woman. This question has been troubling me since long now ... What is the purpose of CV's by depicting the two women in the manner they do? Perhaps, I'm not mature enough to understand!!! Why are there stark differences in Ishu & Shagun's personality?

Think about it U, sorry dunno your name. Ishu is there coz of what Shagun has done. Shagun dumped a six month old baby and went to live with a man who was her husband's boss ( more handsome, rich, successful) since her husband cud not give her all that she wanted - there she ceased to be a mother to Ruhi. YHM started with the love story of Ishita and Ruhi - they were so attracted to each other from the time they met. Ruhi who was missing a mom, saw a mom in her. Where is the glorification here? Most forum members just love Raman and generally hate Ishita or even DT just like that! Or maybe they r jealous Raman loves Ishita and not them! Their rant about glorification is more wrt to Raman and not Shagun so much. However, if Shagun was grey already and they want to show her frustration in losing all plans and a character growth, she has to be more negative in my opinion. One cant stagnate. She left Raman, but now since Raman is more successful, she wanted him back and is blaming Ishita for all her troubles. The biggest problem with Shagun was she always believed Raman loved only her which he did even six months after she dumped him and he was a bitter man. So when he started loving Ishita, Shagun did not like it one bit, though she was herself living in with Ashok.

Hope I made sense, in a hurry...

Originally posted by: umeirah02

In the forum, I've read so much about how Ishu is always glorified and Shagun is shown as a materialistic woman. This question has been troubling me since long now ... What is the purpose of CV's by depicting the two women in the manner they do? Perhaps, I'm not mature enough to understand!!! Why are there stark differences in Ishu & Shagun's personality?

I feel the original premise of the show has always been Nature vs Nurture...Shagun has always been narcissistic, selfish woman who left her husband(who literally worshiped the ground she walked on) and her 6 month old daughter for prospect of better life and estranged her first born from his loving family just to teach them a lesson...remember this ALL happened prior to Ishita's entry in Raman's life ...so that was the THE original sketch of Shagun:a materialistic woman who wanted to climb the social ladder.

Ishita has been shown as always being the one who put others interest before hers..the original sketch is like that.

The only part where I feel the CVs went overboard after the addition of 7:30 slot was turning Shagun into a dark character...her initial sketch showed she atleast cared for Adi in her own way...she manipulated him...but still cared for him...but the whole track of her re-entry into Bhalla house showed her as an extreme example of an uncaring mother who didn't care of her son's emotional vulnerability...rather used it to her own benefit in the most selfish way . That's a slight stretch even for Shagun's sketch.

But shagun has always been shown to represent that kind of woman who has a sense of entitlement to everything..and if things didnt go her way..she would play victim very well...to garner sympathy for her own benefit

I think it was scene leading to Teri Galiyan where Raman said something to shagun which sort of defines her role in the story too...he said in order to see the brightness of light, you have to compare it with the darkness...so similarly without Shagun's presence (as a woman who had the biological privilege of being a mother but didnt care to step into the responsibility of being a mother) the brilliance of Ishita's self less nurturing nature wouldn't get highlighted. So Shagun is important to the story as any antagonist is to any good story.

Yes CVs tried to push Ishita's goodness to some tellyland superbahu level of late but that doesn't take away the fact that Shagun is a bad mother. Period..with or without Ishita's glorification.

hope I could answer your question. I tried 😆

Originally posted by: ---CoCo---

Res

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"You could run from someone you feared, you could try to fight someone you hated. All my reactions were geared toward those kinds of killers - the monsters, the enemies. When you loved the one who was killing you, it left you no options. How could you run, how could you fight, when doing so would hurt that beloved one? If your life was all you had to give your beloved, how could you not give it? If it was someone you truly loved?"

~Stephenie Meyer, Breaking Dawn

"Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody's around - nobody big, I mean - except me. And I'm standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff - I mean if they're running and they don't look where they're going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That's all I do all day. I'd just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it's crazy, but that's the only thing I'd really like to be."

~J.D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye

What a great episode! After so long the quality of YHM is back. The episode was executed brilliantly through writing, directing, and definitely acting. Even the minor glitches here and there are forgiven as the overall episode was nicely done.

Like you said the stars of the show are hands down the younger plot. We had a little scared and wanting her mother and then you had a brother who was also scared but had to be brave for his little sister. Adi has come such a long way. That's what love does to child. It changes him for the best. The love and security Adi has received has changed him so much that he was talking responsibility of his little sister today. You young children dealing with so much at young age and they cant even depend on their so called biological mother. When Raman called and when Ruhi talked Raman, it broke my heart for her child, pleading her father to save her.

I love watching Divan perform as parents. Even though in real life they have no idea what being a parent is like, their performance on screen comes off so natural. We had to frantic parents searching for their children today. I did not think one parent outshined the other today. Both we in their element and thats one of the reasons the episode was amazing. Hearing their children voices on the phone just relaxed them. Yes that's amazing right that both Karan and Divyanka do such a natural job depicting their roles as parents when in real life they both are not yet parents..I love the chemistry they share with the kids...Kudos to them👏 And I agree with you Coco we all loved the episode as they showed both the parents in proper light today...both were in their element today.

When Ishita kept saying Adi, it actually gave me goosebumps because it felt so real. A mother franticly trying to save her child. I was happy the fire was not real because their were children involved in the scene and it would have just been plain on cvs part for using real fire. And then when Ishita fell, all she wanted was her children to be save. I don't know about others but I have always seen mothers put their children above all. So when Ishita didn't care about what happened to her, it felt so realistic. And a special shoutout to DT for her amazing performance today. @red I felt the same too..any NORMAL mother would do the same under similar circumstances...this is no tellyland superwoman stuff but rather very realistic maternal instinct that was on display yesterday...

I cannot imagine anyone playing Raman other than KP. He is a genius with his character. Raman a frantic father desperate to find his kids. Another scene that gave me goosebumps was when Raman arrived at the site and when crazy to find his children and along the way helped others. I missed the part where he yelled at Shagun because the site I watched it on it was cut out. But when he ran to them, it was heartwarming, a man reuniting with his children. And when Ruhi told him to save Ishita, he like a good family man went to go save his wife and didnt care what anyone said to him. KP and Raman are inseparable for me..I have not seen his other work...so have no idea about his other characters...but to me he IS Raman Kumar Bhalla. bas!

A special mention to Ruhi and her reaction of seeing Shagun ran away. I don't know why they didn't show Shagun calling the fire extinguisher because I thought it was going to be a misunderstanding. I feel bad for Adi because even though he choose to live with the Bhallas, he still loves Shagun a lot and she still uses him. I read somewhere on the forum someone saying why didn't Ruhi let Ishita save Adi but wanted Shagun too? I think it because she needed her mother at that time and she didn't think Shagun would ran away. Even Ruhi can tell Shagun loves Adi more, so she though that Shagun would save Adi, like Ishita saved Ruhi. Very well put Coco!

Amazing collages Gan! Thanks darling!😳

Thanks Coco..Loved the quotes ...though not a big fan of Twilight series🤢

Originally posted by: OnePiece

"Being a mother is an attitude, not a biological relation."

Robert A. Heinlein

She couldn't sit still. Her kids were missing. All kinds of wild thoughts running through her mind. Her husband assured her to bring them back. That wasn't enough. She had to do her part however small and insignificant it may sound. At the time of crisis, even a small gesture could transform the scenario. Though it was a wild guess, she went with it. She could use whatever help she could get from whomever. It doesn't matter if it is an arch rival or a close relation. So, she followed the trial holding onto the loose threads frantic with worry. One after the other until she reached an almost dead end. When was about to meet with disappointment, her luck favoured and she found the person she was looking for, saving the little glimmer of hope she had. She wasn't bothered about Shagun's whereabouts. She just wanted to know if the lady has seen the kids. The kids as they belonged to Shagun equally, after all she was the biological mother. A woman, rather a mother begging another one to help her with any possible clue, may be another loose thread that she could follow.

She was bewildered when she got a call from the person standing in front of her. Her bewilderment turned into disconcertion when she discovered that her kids were indeed with their bio mother and her brain refused to register the other one's blabber about taking the kids away. It immediately turned into terror with the explosion. She ran as fast as she could ignoring her injured foot along with the other to save their kids. She was crying for help when Shagun was being irresponsible for the umpteenth time. The little moment of relief on finding Ru safe and fear in the next moment for Adi. Handing over a scared and weeping Ru forcefully to be moved to a more safer place, she began looking for Adi. She couldn't get any help, the child was unable to move and the fire was blazing. What would a mother do in such a scenario? She did what any mother does. Jump in to save the child. It isn't the deed of a super woman but plain instinct of a mother who wants to save the child at any cost. This was no time to waste. Every second counted. She could somehow get him out and was running away with her kids(her kids now, as the other one was no where to be seen) when the natural calamity struck in. Again, her priority was her children. To get them away from the hazardous situation, to shield them from the impending danger. She pushed them away but has fallen to it. Her kids refusing to leave and she refusing to let them near. The struggle of a mother to keep her children away from all kinds of perils at the cost of her own life. The slight reassurance that they would be fine and then the look of despair of knowing what would happen to her the next moment.

"A real parent is someone who puts their kids above their own selfish wants and needs"

This is the closest I could get for Shagun. I couldn't find any quote/saying/words whatsoever to describe her motherhood which implies that there could be a bad girl/woman/sister/aunt any relation but not a bad mother. We have been proven wrong this time by this lady. She was the one who gave birth to the children who were in danger and God forbid were about to lose their lives and whom Ishita was desperately trying to save. But her face shows little concern for the happenings. She was blinded by her own selfish reasons and revenge so much that she stopped rational thinking altogether. She wasn't comprehending what she was getting her children into. She even stooped to such a level where she cheated her own son who loves her, adores her and naively follows her. Her carelessness is beyond me. First leaving the gas turned on, next the key and then her running away from the scene of calamity. She became into this callous, cold-hearted woman for whom nothing is more important than herself. Her world starts and ends at her. Even at this grave moment when her son was about to lose his life, the same one who was with her through thick and thin, who loved her like crazy, she couldn't think beyond herself. She mercilessly ran away fearing for her own self leaving the kids to their own fate. I shudder to think what would have happened to them if no one was around or if Ishita was a second in reaching there or discovering them.

This is what I could write for today. I wanted to write about Raman and Adi, Ruhi. Hopefully tomorrow or over the weekend(if you open a thread and that too not at the situation of boring people😳). Ishita was totally in character today. Never went overboard even for a second. She didn't behave as a super woman or a wonder woman or whatever other super hero names she was being called. She did what a mother would do given the circumstances. She had her priorities set and was going according to her instinct. I would have been happy if they left Shagun grey but they had to make her bad. I would like to think of this as the character progression. The different shades in her coming to the front as per her surroundings(people and places). @red I so agree with you..motherhood is a nothing less than a superhero job if people truly understand what mothers can and cannot do...Ishita might have been shown to do a lot of super bahu stuff...but yesterday she was just acting on her instinct as a mother...If people dont get it...that's not the creatives' or the actor's fault..

That quote is perfect for yesterday's episode.👏 And I love how you write Hema...very well written. My comment in blue bold .

Thank you.

Originally posted by: OnePiece

Updated on page 2..

The one look that refuses to leave me and is haunting me is this --

I can't seem to get over this. She is a witness to the atrocity committed by her own mother and she might be scarred for the rest of her life. No one should be a victim of this, not even terrible enemies.

And this one is for Raman --

"Through the blur, I wondered if I was alone or if other parents felt the same way I did - that everything involving our children was painful in some way. The emotions, whether they were joy, sorrow, love or pride, were so deep and sharp that in the end they left you raw, exposed and yes, in pain. The human heart was not designed to beat outside the human body and yet, each child represented just that - a parent's heart bared, beating forever outside its chest."

Debra Ginsberg

Again great job Hema! Yes that image stays with you...the shock personified.

Loved the quote about Raman