Ishita is not going to lose (Edited) - Page 3

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tiadas03

Thank u soo soo much for this post. Im no supporter of ishita doing it off the way things but I hate it when ppl bash like there's no tom. N u have put it very very precisely that this is shaggys losing game. N ya raman has always been like a fortune teller. I personally also believe that soon Adi will choose ishu over shagun. However frustrating this track is its needed for Adi custody. Yes things could be handled diff bt is a fictional show so we have to put up with sum stuff.
Again thanks for this post its needed right now.


You're welcome. Its difficult for me to be positive too. If I was in Ishita's place I would do things differently. But I am not Ishita and this is the real world.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: clover


Agreed. Lets assume that Ishita is giving Shagun hopes of getting Raman back into her life. But isn't it a false hope? Will Raman ever go back to her? No.

As for giving Adi false hopes, Adi already knows that his father has his own family with Ishita. That Raman loves Ishita a lot. Part of it is what he saw with his own two eyes and part of it is what Shagun has fed into his brain to increase his insecurity regarding his position in Raman's life. All Adi wants is his dad, or just someone to care about him. Remember Adi's monologue. He says my dad is busy with his own family and my mom is still lost in Ashok, where will I go? Who will care for me?

We have to remember that if either of them tries to let go of the bond then the other one will hold on. When Raman tried to divorce Ishita, she hunted him down and dragged him back home. What do you think Raman will do when Ishita pulls such a stunt? He wont beg like he did with Shagun, he will demand her back, by hook or by crook. There has to be a reason as to why he has been repeating that he is never going to let go of her all the time these days.

All the drama happening now is Shagun's mistaken analysis of the situation and its result. She thinks that he is still the same person he was 7 years ago. She thinks that Raman still loves her deep down because of the children that they had together. What she doesn't realise is that he has had a complete change of not just his heart, but his mind as well. He had truly loved Shagun, and that type of betrayal changes you. Raman changed not only when Shagun left him, he changed when he fell in love with Ishita as well. Today even if Shagun tries to make a place in his life as the mother of his children, he has a better mother more then ready to love and raise his children.

Raman is doing everything now as per Ishita's wishes... letting Shagun stay, spending time with Adi, cutting the anniversary cake, giving her the earrings, everything is for Ishita, not for Adi. he is past that now. He said so himself yesterday... his world starts and ends with Ishita. And Raman takes it all literally. Ishita is happy doing all this... lets just wait and see what happens when she starts feeling sad.


adi is the one who can b easily manipulated... he seen with his eyes suraj nd ashok talkng abt ditchng shagun he nevr voiced it out... nd seeing ishra togethr he tought thy r family with ruhi nd he dont ahv anyone bt he is nt considring raman's nd raman's family efforts of making him secure... he is always manpulated by ashok nd shagun nd nw again by shagun... dont tak m wrng bt he is comptly RKB jr wen it comes to shagun... raman danced on her tunes nd nw he is making adi dance on her tunes... bt adi if adi comes to knw wht her mother is doing do knw the result...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey... Thank you so much for this positive post...

Even though many are pissed after the videos ...you atleast tried to read something into that...

From Mani track few people in the forum where continually bashing the show & Ishita which now extended to the leads too
and I failed to understand why they were sticking around if they were not enjoying a single thing...

See many people also don't approve most of Ishita's actions but they don't go around bashing her in each and every thread and every opportunity they get...
That may be the main reason why our criticism is not reaching the makers..since I heard nivedita basu mention in her twitter account ...that its hard to take the feedback since all they do is bash continuously...

The show cannot run on main leads and their romance only...we need to give them room to make mess so that they can clear it...which inturn gives us the audience a sense of victory...
here they dont even allow them to a make a mistake...they start bashing immediately...

Criticizing and pointing out the flaws can be done in a more mature way too which is very seldomly done in this forum...

Thanks for the space for my rant...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi
I think we all agree that a lot of things that are being shown are simply to cater to drama and TRPs. So, for the purpose of this reply, I will choose to ignore that.

I do agree that this track is basically for Adi to reconcile his feelings towards his father and his family. There are 3 things that his brain has to process in parallel.

1) what his mother tells him about Raman & Ishita

2) What he feels about Ashok's rejection

3) What he sees in the Bhalla/Iyer family (love and a lot of love)

So, the ultimate goal of this track is for Adi to independently realise the truth of his father (& his family) and the bitterness of his mother. and to show that, the makers have to show Ishita being extremely good and Shagun extremely bad.

Also, I do agree with you that this track isnt about just challenging IshRa relationship, but it will eventually make it stronger. But, about the treatment they are giving to their relationship right now >> I agree with Kavi (Bruce_L) post about the husband-wife dynamics, so I won't repeat.

The peeves I have with this storyline and Ishita's selfnessness (which sometimes I think is extremely myopic)

1) I dont care if Shagun gets the wrong impression that she is winning Raman back. But somewhere, it could lead to Adi thinking the same. Although we all (the ever clever audience) know that good will prevail, how do we guarantee that Adi will not get more confused about his parents' relationship ?

2) Why isn't Ruhi around ? If, for the mental peace of a 11/12 year old, they have to put up an act; would it not traumatise/confuse the the other child in the house? She has half the mental capacity of her brother (I will ignore that they make her speak like an adult)... I understand she isn't in the party. But has anyone considered that she could start raising more questions about why her dad and Shagun mom suddenly seem pally pally?

3) I don't agree with you about the earrings. (i dont really care about the cake and the dance and all. they want TRPs. they will do anything for that)... But the earrings aren't just any gift. They have ancestral value. If not materialistically, they are traditionally important. The gestures that Raman made, and the symbolism of this particular gift was two-fold. He promised her his undying love/loyalty AND he declared her to be the most important person in his life. If I carry forward this symbolism, Ishita just hasnt given away the earrings, has she?


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Posted: 10 years ago
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i couldnt agree more, i feel that yes what was shown on the olv was a bit much to take in, however, we have always known that she is not materialistic and therefore its the love for her that counts. She truly is the antidote to the poison that shagun spreads
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Posted: 10 years ago
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awesome post lucky esp last point and first point and isn't it fake consolation that his parents are together ? why can't his father say that your father is married to another woman and you have to accept it on his face?


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shavi2311


adi is the one who can b easily manipulated... he seen with his eyes suraj nd ashok talkng abt ditchng shagun he nevr voiced it out... nd seeing ishra togethr he tought thy r family with ruhi nd he dont ahv anyone bt he is nt considring raman's nd raman's family efforts of making him secure... he is always manpulated by ashok nd shagun nd nw again by shagun... dont tak m wrng bt he is comptly RKB jr wen it comes to shagun... raman danced on her tunes nd nw he is making adi dance on her tunes... bt adi if adi comes to knw wht her mother is doing do knw the result...


That is another good point here, don't you think? Both of Raman's children are like him, not Shagun. Raman danced to her tunes when he didn't know the real Shagun. Now he doesn't in any case. Even when she cried for Adi the other day, he told her to stop her nautanki. Adi is RKB part 2. And if the saying that history repeats itself is correct then Adi will go through what Raman went through. It will not be very easy for Adi. He was raised by Shagun. Although in a hostel for the past 6 six years, but he did spend his first 6 years with her mostly. Not Raman since most of his day he would spend at work. Shagun was the one always with him. She was in a position to manipulate, to make him vulnerable and think that his real dad was a bad person and make him accept another man as his father. But it is in your bad times that the real face of people comes in front of you. Adi is a kid but he is not in a normal situation. He has started questioning... he is trying to correct his mother's misapprehensions but every time he does that he receives a slap from her or gets to see her tears. He is in two minds now. He doesn't know who to believe. His eyes and the love of his dad and his family or his mother that gave birth to him...

Just speculating now...
Long time back we got a rumour about Shagun exchanging places with Mihika to marry Ashok. Half of that rumour has come true. What if the other half comes true as well? Shagun marrying Ashok (in my eyes) would be like a betrayal to Adi. That man insulted him and called him homeless and in clear terms stated that he was not loved by Ashok. What will Adi feel like when Shagun goes back to him. Mihika married Ashok sure, but is that where she belongs? (leaving aside that she maybe deserves it for her stupidity)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@clover

I didnt offend you or your point of you my dear.
And who am I to stop anyone from expressing their views in a public forum.
I posted my views here to just have a healthy discussion.
Thats it.😛

I agree to what that you said.
Ishu has her faults too and Raman loves her with all her faults.
I just wanted Ishu to accept this fact atleast in this track.

Raman alone is trying to save IshRa marriage now. He always does that TBH.
His efforts shouldnt go unnoticed. It is not too much to ask for.

Raman wholeheartedly accepts his fault and also the one which he hasnt done to please Ishu.
If she also does the same, it will look very good and we all can love IshRa without any complaints.

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ZD - I saw that. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: anoo123

Hey... Thank you so much for this positive post...

Even though many are pissed after the videos ...you atleast tried to read something into that...

From Mani track few people in the forum where continually bashing the show & Ishita which now extended to the leads too
and I failed to understand why they were sticking around if they were not enjoying a single thing...

See many people also don't approve most of Ishita's actions but they don't go around bashing her in each and every thread and every opportunity they get...
That may be the main reason why our criticism is not reaching the makers..since I heard nivedita basu mention in her twitter account ...that its hard to take the feedback since all they do is bash continuously...

The show cannot run on main leads and their romance only...we need to give them room to make mess so that they can clear it...which inturn gives us the audience a sense of victory...
here they dont even allow them to a make a mistake...they start bashing immediately...

Criticizing and pointing out the flaws can be done in a more mature way too which is very seldomly done in this forum...

Thanks for the space for my rant...


Totally agree with you. Life isn't just a bed of roses... you have to face the thorns too. Raman has made his share of mistakes, let Ishita make hers as well.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Awesome post even I feel so this track is basically about adi realizing how much ishra love him. Now that shagun is going abroad she will not be able to manipulate adi and he will be able to see everyones love and care. So wait n watch shagun will soon end up lossing adi also.

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