Love and its different shades - Page 6

Originally posted by alin1113

Hi .. I was reading ur post and I had to say something..Hope u don't mind😳

Ofcourse not...😃 Please do more often, i am always open for a differing POV.

when u look back at the beg of the serial.. raman was angry .. He was selfish.. Because life made him that way.. He didn't think about ruhi or his family.. He focused on himself and his pain and proving to Ashok and shagun that he will rise up..

But today he thinks about ishita's happiness and everyone else above his own happiness.. He thinks to give them happiness and a better life.. So his enemies won't try to hurt them because of his enemity towards them.
And I do understand that. It's a wonderful thing to see how far he has come because his love for Ishu and hers for him. That it's coming from a place of love is not debatable for me.

Granted I prefer the angry raman over today's.. But it was so beautiful to see how much ishita's love has changed him.. I despise Mani.. 😡But Raman thinks.. Here is a guy who can make her happy and my marriage to ishita has only caused her grief while she gave me back every thing...Also rem he heard Mani stating how Raman comes with a lot if baggage.. And raman thinks ishita does not need this... she should be with someone like Mani .. Who has no baggage.. Honestly i don't mind Mani as much anymore, he's a busy body- but then so is Ishu to a certain extent. His concern for her is over the top but I can kind of understand the place he is coming from [to be honest i think my softening stance of Mani has more to to do with the fact that i want to see him with Simmi eventually so I am trying to justify him in my mind...😳] -personally I think the issue is not Mani but Raman's own insecurities that force him to see Mani that way. Yes Mani should not have said all those things but then it's Raman's own insecurities tht force him to see things that aren't necessarily there. He heard Mani say that, but he also heard Ishu defend him.

He heard Ammah say those things but those words were about Simmi and her situation, it's Raman's own guilt, past experience and insecurity that forced him to not even consider that maybe in his situation those same words don't apply directly and immediately use those same words to heave more guilt onto himself.

He has some idea what Ishu feels for him, even if she never said it so he knows that despite his 'shortcomings' she wants to be with him. He is picking and choosing to listen to the detractors over Ishu repreatedly, even though she has told and showed him in many ways that she chooses him, that she wants him- think back to one of the best RKB moments the 'really?' - she said flat out I want us, I am so happy with us, you are the best husband, i have the best family and our marriage is a cherished memory. It's like in the haze of love , in the shadow of his insecurity he gives everyone else and his own guilt more value then Ishita and her words and feelings. 😡

I understand you saying that Raman thinks Mani is a better option because Mani has no baggage. But he is a single dad raising his sister's orphaned child- that's baggage. And okay so he thinks Mani is btetter then him because he is not 'bad', no horrible ex wife , has history with Ishu and he suspects that Mani was in love with erat some point. Fine, but my frustration is the push and pull of the guillt, the deliberate disregard for Ishu's feelings of which he has a better understanding then she does his for sure, the 'playing god' with his wife when he knows that her feelingsfor him are more atleast the platonic ones she has for Mani (or does he doubt that too?)... I think my frustration with all this is because I am looking at it through Ishu's eyes. I get that he thinks she is 'more' then him- but Raman's overall character paints him as a very possessive and sure kind of man, I just hate that being in love has changed him so completely.

I adore RKB, he's my perfect kind of broody hero but I am just frustrated because I feel like in softening him up while showing him in love , we are losing a part of the strong, arrogant, confident man that is the core of him. The guilt is understandable- but is the guilt so overwhelming when in love that it takes over everything that makes him him?

so I think that's Ramans thought process..

To be honest: I agree with you. I'm just trying to challenge my brain a bit and think differently, which I always love to do when thinking about the show. 😉 I'm kind of out of it today and just frustrated with the length of this track. 😆 It's just one of those days where I am so heart sick from seeing him hurt so much and I just want to grab him and tell him how screwed up his thinking is. 😛 And because I can't do that I decided to scold him instead! 😳

Thanks so much for sharing your view, I appreciate your clear argument. I don't think I explained myself clearly, but I can't seem to articulate my thoughts today. In my head this makes sense, i just don't know how to say it. 😳 But you brought up terrific points and I am so happy for it- please continue to post more often!🤗