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Posted: 10 years ago

#121

I know v r discussing something else here. But wud cum wid something totally diffn now...

The romi wala spoiler if comes out to b true wakai diwali manegi...

If they show that romi won't b able to be a father ever in his life, more than bhallas its going to hurt iyers n ISHITA...

[DIV]Focus on Raman ishita scenes from

DD brilliant analysis...KC SCENCE GOT A CLOSURE DURING DIWALI...they shared sweets as well as the gift...I hope CVs will give a proper closure to the bed room scene by the end of this track...

Edited by banana.ishra - 10 years ago

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janu12345

@janu12345

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Posted: 10 years ago

#122

Originally posted by: daydreamers
Aani..hi ...
Januuu.. sorry for butting in... 😛
M a total sadist...😆 I love wen d leads cry I love wen emotions r @ peak...

The bedroom scene was one such about which m going to post in the next week.. Ab tak my hands r itching...😆😆😆 - Please do, would love to read your take on that.. it was one scene which affected me more than any other and was expecting them to use it or show a vague closure... but ... lets see in the future... but even if they do the impact i am apprehensive..!

I think d CVS suddenly realised ki they have one hanging drama in d air... So they suddenly got that mentos moment n brought back mihika ashok...ab shagun bhi aa gayi...

C after d mu v r getting those incomplete scenes of KC... Romance waha band ho gaya mu k baad resume ho gaya... Ab same thing shud repeat romance hoga aur phir mu... - They have never been good with follow ups janu ... this time it was left hanging in thin air.. maybe they ll revisit it lets see!

Tabhi hi maza ayega...
Cz somewhere ishita has to come to know d reason of Raman's behavior that day ... N I do feel yeh Raman khud apne muh se batayega... If he doesn't I'll thrash him - 😆😆

Ishita has to know aakhir kya hua...

N also Raman shagun convo out of school where shaggy instigated Raman...

N now shagun back to vampy mode v can expect her to fill in ishu's ears...

N the analogy u made between bracelet n gown can fit here...
Ishita may not wear that gown as Raman didn't wear d bracelet... He was shattered then... She'll b shattered now...
The bracelet broke he threw away but mended back n wore...
Same thing with ishu... She may not take d gown she won't wear she will b hurt she will hurt him but eventually will wear it... - Something like that should ideally happen, but i saw a couple of videos Ishita mahaanatma daan mein deti hain Shaggy ko woh gown...and i guess Mihika is the connection! needless to say puttar is pissed! Ill still wait for the whole scene to play out but that happens!

N intimacy full form me aane k liye other things have to get cleared up... Cz jab ruhi's insecurity comes up, these two r going to b caught unguarded... N that's d biggest threat... At that moment there can b love which they show... Here there's a great scope ki inn dono ki EMOTIONAL INTIMACY develops...

That is wat is needed as of now...

I don't know but the mu thing can crop up wen they r almost going to confess... This will Mark a new beginning...

Cz of ruhi they get in emotionally intimate...

Cz of mu resolution they get physically intimate...

N dis sounds more logical... Cz if u c CVS have taken baby steps in developing ishra bond... It was a steady approach... - Logic... I am waiting for that surprise!! Would love it if I can say at the end of the track that all loops are finally closed.. and they did it better than what I could have thought of!!

N for me yeh intimacy thing sahi maayno me ab shuru hua h...

They have to pass the ruhi test first then only they reach d climax... Cz ruhi was the one who connected their souls... She'll again b d one who'll connect their hearts...

After this the veil sirf ruhi k liye sahi maayno me utrega...

Mu thing can come up after this... Cz den its purely about ishra no shagun no ruhi no Mani... It will b only about THEM as spouses...

Share ur thots...😊

Jaanu.. 😛 I love it how you, Aani and Ruby look beyond the obvious that's shown... I cant do it half as well...I tried during the previous track... and now i give up...it was waaayy too abrupt...!! It will take the conclusion of this track to get that back for me.. in the meanwhile i will settle for all your interpretations and thoughts... I just love reading!! 😛😛

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Aani

@EkPaheli

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Posted: 10 years ago

#123

Originally posted by: daydreamers
Aani read urs n ruby's discussion over backless gown on lu...
So let's draw smthn here...

Wearing a saree reveals the stomach portion... Its visible not objectionable ryt from olden days?? Cz it signifies MOTHERHOOD...

In d olden there weren't backless blouses.. The blouse was so stitched that it wud cover d back...
Y??

Cz back signifies SENSUALITY... N its only for husband to c 😳

Now y didn't Raman thot of a sexy chiffon saree for ishu??? Not only cz of cocktail party but smthn else...😉

Abhi sab CTD...😆

Janu have a slightly diffferent take to this thing I dont see it the way you do. And right now writing certain things may not be correct since we obviously have to see the whole thing but I am on a different tangent here 😳

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daydreamers

@daydreamers

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Posted: 10 years ago

#124

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Janu have a slightly diffferent take to this thing I dont see it the way you do. And right now writing certain things may not be correct since we obviously have to see the whole thing but I am on a different tangent here 😳

Aani... V can disagree.. There's no rule that v have to say yes every time... N its good let's call spade a spade... That's more logical...

Frankly I didn't expect ishu to wear dat gown readily... I knew yeh drama hoga... Ishita will give that gown to shagun... It was bound to happen... Infact very must thing for this track...

Many of us r drawing this analogy that ishu has given the gown means she'll give away Raman... I mean ssly 😡😕

I know ekta n her shows hers is a typical style... But unlike previous shows yhm is thriving on a diffn concept all together... Its juz not d leads its juz not love its juz not romance... It is something else too...

It is CUSTODY... Infact v also haven't received any full proof drama revolving about custody...

I don't know how this all will play out...

If u ask me reason for ongoing track the practicality lies here that they want to extend the confession thing... That's it aur kuch nahi... N somewhere I agree here also cz after confession things do go dull in a show... Once the leads get lovey dovey the ocus from d children will shift away for a long tym n in my eyes they r trying to avoid this...

One thing v shud not forget n dat is this is about CUSTODY.. Even tho juz d concept is adopted... They do have to keep everybody in focus bhallas iyers shashok ruhi adi... Cz wid out these ishra have no meaning at all...

N its an old habit shagun falls on her face... So here when will she fall???

Already Raman's speech has lifted her in d air... Now ishu's mahaanta will make her soar higher...

N something definitely will happen which will make her fall HARD I mean REALLY HARD...

Don't bother much about mihika in shashok... Cz I do have this... From day one m saying MANI is for a better reason...

He can b of great help to save mihika...

But even if CVS try to bring in sautan track I won't b surprised dat MANI MARRIES SHAGUN... ( which is highly impossible)..

P.S.: having blabbered insanely on ur thread I'll put this as an end..

Show is juz not made for us to analyse.. It is for trp audience... Drama automatically ata h... No issues. .. Me khaungi b grateful they have not yet butchered d CONCEPT...

Mere predictions analysis verses speculations work ya don't work doesn't matter... End of d day it's a show... It has to end someday...

N good or bad, its in our eyes how v c the thing... So I try n make an effort to look @ d larger picture... I focus on overall impact... I ignore intricacies technicalities... Cz if ever I get into details n start bashing ppl will faint n d forum will b flooded...

I prefer to go wid d flow...in serial also in real also... I have indeed faced disappointments in my own life so serial dhoka de jaye not a big deal...😆😆

My kind advice to all juz go wid d flow... V don't know what's there ahead for us... May b good or bad... Its juz a thing, v have to discover n judge if its really GOOD or really BAD...

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daydreamers

@daydreamers

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Posted: 10 years ago

#125

Janu dear upar wala padh lo ab k liye... I ges it can answer half of ur questions.😊

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Payal

@-Payal-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#126

Updated on page 12 :)

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@Dangelz

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Posted: 10 years ago

#127

I am usually a silent reader of this forum, (cause the chaos and fan wars are enough to drive me up the wall here) but I have always been an ardent viewer and fan of YHM.

I have to say that this post has to be one of the very few sensible posts I have come across in the forum for awhile now! You have exactly put all my feelings into words in this very post, and I am so glad I am not the only person who felt cheated by this incredibly crucial track.

This whole 'Raman-Ishita-Mani' track started off quite light-hearted, as we got to see a cutely jealous side of Raman who finally began to come to terms with his feelings for Ishita.

This kind of track with Mani was definitely needed to make Raman realize Ishita's importance and presence in his life. But along with that, many other issues began to surface like trust and insecurities.

Fans either began to support Raman, or Ishita and pointed out faults of the opposite character they did not support. But I'm not going to comment on who is right or wrong, as each person has their own perspective and way of thinking about a certain situation. My personal opinion is Raman and Ishita both are flawed characters, and somewhere along this Mani track...I felt both were wrong somewhere and at some point.

Anyway, although I felt the track was a bit exaggerated...there was still some element of realism, and that aspect was that relationships are extremely fragile...especially when it comes to marriage. There are so many factors that can shape up a relationship, and trust is a big one...and that is exactly what the track was trying to show viewers. As you mentioned, this track finally reached a very important climax during the infamous bedroom sequence between Raman and Ishita. That climatic sequence probably brought out so many topics in the forum within a day that ranged from women's rights and gender equality to domestic abuse and God knows what else.

Though I particularly did not enjoy that whole scene and was quite disappointed with Raman's behaviour...one thing I was finally hooked to after a long time in this show was the level of INTENSITY that was shown. Hats off to KP and DT for performing such a difficult scene with pure intensity and conviction! After this climatic scene, I was expecting this track to take a very serious turn where Raman and Ishita confront each other about their personal issues that are affecting their relationship. They need to sort things out if they want to move ahead further in their relationship.

But alas, seems like CVs abruptly turned things around and decided they will go back to the lighthearted moments of the show instead. I have no complains with light hearted scenes at all cause I enjoy them, BUT after such a serious issue coming out in the forefront...its very hard to digest that IshRa all of a sudden are back to their normal nok jhoks. You would expect some kind of serious heart to heart talk between Raman and Ishita or some sort of intense aftermath following the heated confrontation they had the night before. I would totally be fine if the light-heartedness/romance/comedy came back, but NOW is not the right time for it in my opinion. It just doesn't make any sense at all :/ If the makers term YHM as a 'mature love story/romance' then please handle the show that way, and not blow off serious issues or brush it under the rug. Its not child's play as relationships in real life can also go through these kinds of situations that they have shown.

Looks like that crucial turning point for Raman and Ishita, that I think many (including me) have been waiting for...has just went for a toss! :/ I cannot believe that writers would cheat us like that and deprive fans from watching a sensible closing to this important track!

Edited by Dangelz - 10 years ago

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peachesandcream

@peachesandcream

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Posted: 10 years ago

#128

Aani right? May I call you that?

This is an excellent post. I am in total agreement with you. Reading some of the posts, it seems there is a lot of us who are feeling frustrated and cheated. There was so much passion in the earlier episodes. The outpouring of feelings and the fine acting was engrossing. All of a sudden we are hit with comedy and light hearted banter. The issues are all unresolved.

Are the writers just holding on to the issues so they can recycle and reuse later?

As a viewer I expected some introspection on the part of the leads. Raman was told that Ishita was trying to work with Mani to save his position, but this did not explain the love confession he overheard. As a viewer I needed to see his inner turmoil and conflict. KP could have easily shown us these emotions.

Ishita was confronted with the possibility of physical intimacy by her drunken husband and then later the outlining of boundaries he laid out for her friend where he openly stated he would claim his rights. Did she recover so quickly? Did she not need some clarification after his accusations?

As an audience member I feel like I have been taken for a ride. So many issues have been brought out and then suddenly swept aside.

It is difficult to enjoy the romance of the recent episodes because it seems disjointed.

I am not asking for confession but we needed an episode where the leads would be showing their conflicts and hurt. There could have been some serious conversation between them without a love confession. They could have focused on the misunderstanding and Raman's previous experience leading to his suspicions. After all that has happened there should be some level of constraint with underling awareness between them. Some things have changed. Feelings are becoming more apparent. He has laid claim . She is torn between her own feelings and her fear that he still cares for his ex. Doesn't she wonder why he claims his rights and at he same time, as is her perception, harbor emotions for Shagun? Anyways didn't they both retrace their steps to "sirf Ruhi ke Iiya"? Was the fact that she helped him with the ABH position enough to refute all that? To suddenly start a flirtation just does not seem to fit here.

Maybe as some have said it is better to watch as an isolated episode rather then a serial.

Edited by peachesandcream - 10 years ago

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@gk_09

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Posted: 10 years ago

#129

Great post Aani! Glad to know I'm not the only one who thought that the track took an abrupt turn. We got to see Raman's pain, emotions and insecurities at their peak level only to be ended by a simple sorry. IshRa just casually forgot about whatever happened the night before. Sure we didn't have a closure scene between the duo - but even individually, I believe there was no monologue or reference to that night by either party. I'm all for cute IshRa-licious scenes/episodes but I personally think it's unfair to leave such a prominent and important track hanging. I wasn't expecting a confession but I was certainly looking forward to a emotional confrontation (similar to the bench scene when IshRa go to Raman's friend's party).

However, to be quite honest, I still feel that a closure scene will come - perhaps a bit delayed. Maybe after Ishita's insecurities are highlighted through the upcoming track. Though I think that the confrontation/emotional talk would have been better placed now or maybe I'm just being a tad bit to hopeful >.<

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ElOqUeNcE

@ElOqUeNcE

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Posted: 10 years ago

#130

Originally posted by: --mancityfan--
Well

I have saying this ever since this track started

It is not what being imagined

And if you are interested

Directors got changed from yesterday

And hence this might have something to do with it

but changing a director has nothing to do wid storyline