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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnr123

Beautiful Post Doc 😊

Yes they do show sensitive issues which is appreciated but I hope they justify the ending properly. 😊

I hope they dont show a woman pardoning and forgiving the people who have molested her like the way showed Ishita getting Param back, hope his ending is Justified. N Manhandling and physically or verbally abusing one's wife should also be treated carefully.

As far as Ishra goes m not keeping high hopes will currently take a break n might watch the serial if the makers show proper meaningful episodes. 😳


Thank you Megha. I hope and I have faith that the tracks will end with justification and I hope we get a conversation soon, God knows we deserve it.

Yeah it's better to take a break from the show if it's not meeting the creative expectations, good going! Hopefully we get the show we all want and then we will have you back on the forum 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shivi9926

A much needed post and as always bang on. After two intense and emotional episodes, this was utter crap.


Thank you 😊, and let's hope we get back to brilliant episodes sooner than later!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: swathibalan

Never tht we would rant eh Doc..

There are so many delicate issues that could be highlighted and instead they preferred to show us how technically an episode can be screwed up (sorry for the language)..
even the intensity of the last few episodes was lost in this crazy one..Such a build up and then Phuss...
I seriously hope they show some effect on lil Ruhi caz of these constant fights and how these two resolve it..

On this "One last thank you for making Shagun drive a drunk Ashok home, next time when my puttar is on his drinking escapade lets get him a driver."
They gave puttar a driver when the tech crew seemed zonked out.😆

Made me think what else was lost in the fire? 😕


' Made me think what else was lost in the fire?' 😆
There is a lot of potential in this lovely story and there is a lot that can be explored, I just hope that the brilliant writers continue their brilliance and once the fire thing is taken care off, I hope we get some meaningful tracks and beautiful closure of the current tracks.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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very well put!
It's saddening to know CVs forget the reality quotient they begin with in the name of entertainment. A show starts off with impending issues in the society and promises to address them but as the "entertainment" quotient gains popularity, the purpose of the show is lost somewhere.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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And you amaze me with your insight once again! 😊
I am not going to focus on IshRa and their misunderstandings or how disjointedly comical today's episode was because I think you have already addressed that topic brilliantly. I will add some more about the new Ruhi-Ishita track that was introduced today.

Your post resonated with me to the T. The introduction of the new track about Ruhi feeling insecure and stuck between her fighting parents is a wonderful move, but at the wrong time. Ruhanika is such an amazing little girl...I think she would have just created magic on the screen with both Divyanka and Karan. It's so unfortunate that she's not shooting right now. We saw a brief glimpse of Ruhi feeling neglected in last week's episode after karwa chauth when Mani called Ishita and both Raman and Ruhi were waiting for their breakfast. No matter how much Ruhi loves Ishita and vice-versa, for the world, Ishita is still Ruhi's stepmother. Just that one word brings with it negative connotations and a flood of thoughts that mostly circle around stepmothers ill-treating their stepchildren. While Ruhi and Ishita share a pure, loving relationship, there are bound to be insecurities that pop up in the child's mind, particularly when she is at an age where she is prone to be deeply affected and influenced by her peers and her surroundings. It's an important topic to portray on-screen where you have the power to influence and change the views of thousands/millions of people that watch the show.

Now, coming to Ishita, I read posts today that bashed her for forgetting the role of being Ishima, but I couldn't relate with that reasoning or those thoughts. When you have so much going on in your life with regards to your relationship with your husband and dealing with your own feelings, it becomes difficult, if not impossible, (even for a woman like Ishita) to put yourself on the back burner and think about everyone else. The more you try to be a good samaritan and put everyone before yourself, the more everyone's expectations from you increase; this is exactly the case with Dr. Ishita Raman Kumar Bhalla nee Iyer. Ishita has always put everyone else before her; she agreed to meet every boy that her mom introduced her to even though she herself was least interested in marriage...she put her own safety and fears behind her to think of her sister-in-law's happiness when she brought Param back into the house...she shoved her sentiments under the rug when she brought her husband's drunk ex-wife Shagun into the house that night. She did all this without expecting anything in return. We could call all of these acts of mahaanta or we could see them as a part of Ishita's personality. She is a woman who just loves to give...she loves to spread love and happiness. And more often than not, she never expects anything in return. But the one time after the marriage that Ishita expected love and respect back from her husband, she didn't get it. She lied to Mani and herself when she said that it doesn't matter to her...that she didn't do anything for acknowledgement...that she is just satisfied to see Raman happy, but it doesn't matter who the cause of his happiness is. But those words were just a cover to hide her true feelings. She is deeply in love with her husband, a man who she used to hate, a man who she only married for his daughter, a man who is extremely insecure about his past. Can you imagine the storm that must be raging in her heart and mind? For Ishita, Raman's silent "rejection" was a repeat of Subbu dropping her like a hot potato all over again. She had closed herself off from all these emotions after being dumped and she had learned to live without expecting anything in return for her goodness. But now, when she made the mistake of listening to her heart once again, all she got was the same rejection that she faced so many years ago. How can you expect a woman going through all of this emotional trauma to suddenly forget everything and shift the focus away from herself?

I read posts that commented on how Ishita could feel Ruhi's plight from next door in the early days of the show but she is now completely ignorant of her own daughter. My only response to that is a personal anecdote. Without going much into detail, there was a point in my mom's life where she was going through a really tough time...family problems, fights with my dad, etc. I was 10 years old at that time, so I wasn't at the age where I was completely ignorant of everything but of course I didn't fully understand the situation either. Well, during those few difficult months, my mom was so absorbed in her problems that she did kind of let go...she let go of everything. The mother that used to be up at the crack of dawn to make a hearty breakfast for her family, the mother who would walk her child to the bus stop every morning, the mother who would read her daughter a bedtime story every night and tuck her into bed...well that mother kind of disappeared for some time. That mother became engulfed by a woman's grief. Did I feel neglected, unwanted, and rejected at that time? Hell yes! But did my mom's behavior at that time mean that she no longer loved me? Of course not! Because when she sorted through everything and was able to come out of her own grief, she again became that caring, loving mother that I was always used to having around.

When a woman becomes a mother, does she assume that single identity for the rest of her life? Is a mother no longer a daughter, wife, friend, or woman? Is she just a mother? While I wish that the misunderstandings between Raman and Ishita should have been cleared before this track was introduced, I think that this track will add to the growth of IshRa's relationship. I have said this many a times before. Ishita and Raman came together sirf Ruhi ke liye and the catalyst that will push them forward in this relationship is also Ruhi herself.

Sorry for such a long post...I guess I got a bit carried away. 😳
Edited by nividances - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maaneet099

very well put!

It's saddening to know CVs forget the reality quotient they begin with in the name of entertainment. A show starts off with impending issues in the society and promises to address them but as the "entertainment" quotient gains popularity, the purpose of the show is lost somewhere.


Thank you! I really do hope the essence of the show returns because most of us signed up to watch a show that is 'different' with a mature storyline with many undertones.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: nividances

And you amaze me with your insight once again! 😊

I am not going to focus on IshRa and their misunderstandings or how disjointedly comical today's episode was because I think you have already addressed that topic brilliantly. I will add some more about the new Ruhi-Ishita track that was introduced today. Thank you Nivi! And this post of yours makes me believe that this show requires a mature audience like yourself.

Your post resonated with me to the T. The introduction of the new track about Ruhi feeling insecure and stuck between her fighting parents is a wonderful move, but at the wrong time. Ruhanika is such an amazing little girl...I think she would have just created magic on the screen with both Divyanka and Karan. It's so unfortunate that she's not shooting right now. We saw a brief glimpse of Ruhi feeling neglected in last week's episode after karwa chauth when Mani called Ishita and both Raman and Ruhi were waiting for their breakfast. No matter how much Ruhi loves Ishita and vice-versa, for the world, Ishita is still Ruhi's stepmother. Just that one word brings with it negative connotations and a flood of thoughts that mostly circle around stepmothers ill-treating their stepchildren. While Ruhi and Ishita share a pure, loving relationship, there are bound to be insecurities that pop up in the child's mind, particularly when she is at an age where she is prone to be deeply affected and influenced by her peers and her surroundings. It's an important topic to portray on-screen where you have the power to influence and change the views of thousands/millions of people that watch the show. Spot on! Ishita and Ruhi's pious relationship is the USP of the show, it makes YHM what it is. Ishita Iyer became Mrs. Ishita Raman Bhalla because of her relationship with Ruhi. There is so much potential in this track because all other relationships in Ishita's life are because of this one very important relation i.e the mother-daughter relationship. And unfortunately that 'step' in front of any relationship invites unwanted scrutiny from the society and this could hamper a child's development. Ruhi could very well be influenced by her surroundings and this could put a strain on her relationship with Ishima. Sooo much potential...I only hope we get to see this.

Now, coming to Ishita, I read posts today that bashed her for forgetting the role of being Ishima, but I couldn't relate with that reasoning or those thoughts. When you have so much going on in your life with regards to your relationship with your husband and dealing with your own feelings, it becomes difficult, if not impossible, (even for a woman like Ishita) to put yourself on the back burner and think about everyone else. The more you try to be a good samaritan and put everyone before yourself, the more everyone's expectations from you increase; this is exactly the case with Dr. Ishita Raman Kumar Bhalla nee Iyer. Ishita has always put everyone else before her; she agreed to meet every boy that her mom introduced her to even though she herself was least interested in marriage...she put her own safety and fears behind her to think of her sister-in-law's happiness when she brought Param back into the house...she shoved her sentiments under the rug when she brought her husband's drunk ex-wife Shagun into the house that night. She did all this without expecting anything in return. We could call all of these acts of mahaanta or we could see them as a part of Ishita's personality. She is a woman who just loves to give...she loves to spread love and happiness. And more often than not, she never expects anything in return. But the one time after the marriage that Ishita expected love and respect back from her husband, she didn't get it. She lied to Mani and herself when she said that it doesn't matter to her...that she didn't do anything for acknowledgement...that she is just satisfied to see Raman happy, but it doesn't matter who the cause of his happiness is. But those words were just a cover to hide her true feelings. She is deeply in love with her husband, a man who she used to hate, a man who she only married for his daughter, a man who is extremely insecure about his past. Can you imagine the storm that must be raging in her heart and mind? For Ishita, Raman's silent "rejection" was a repeat of Subbu dropping her like a hot potato all over again. She had closed herself off from all these emotions after being dumped and she had learned to live without expecting anything in return for her goodness. But now, when she made the mistake of listening to her heart once again, all she got was the same rejection that she faced so many years ago. How can you expect a woman going through all of this emotional trauma to suddenly forget everything and shift the focus away from herself? It's funny you mention Ishita's 'mahanta' because I had said the exact same thing while discussing this with berrysweet. Ishita's behavior of selflessness and an eagerness to help others comes from her insecurity of not feeling adequate, her inability to conceive and the subsequent failure of her love life. Her personality is shaped by her being 'barren' so much so that there seems to be fear of losing her loved ones if she doesn't overcompensate. What a beautiful layered character and how I wish Ishita is explored more on this show.
And her rejection by Raman is so beyond heart breaking that she is back to being 'barren' and this time around her soul is barren...hence I craved for that conversation where Raman gets to find out what his hurtful words did to his wife.
I read posts that commented on how Ishita could feel Ruhi's plight from next door in the early days of the show but she is now completely ignorant of her own daughter. My only response to that is a personal anecdote. Without going much into detail, there was a point in my mom's life where she was going through a really tough time...family problems, fights with my dad, etc. I was 10 years old at that time, so I wasn't at the age where I was completely ignorant of everything but of course I didn't fully understand the situation either. Well, during those few difficult months, my mom was so absorbed in her problems that she did kind of let go...she let go of everything. The mother that used to be up at the crack of dawn to make a hearty breakfast for her family, the mother who would walk her child to the bus stop every morning, the mother who would read her daughter a bedtime story every night and tuck her into bed...well that mother kind of disappeared for some time. That mother became engulfed by a woman's grief. Did I feel neglected, unwanted, and rejected at that time? Hell yes! But did my mom's behavior at that time mean that she no longer loved me? Of course not! Because when she sorted through everything and was able to come out of her own grief, she again became that caring, loving mother that I was always used to having around. Thank you for sharing your personal story and putting this into perspective for all of us. Like I said this show deserves a mature viewership like yourself. Also I don't venture out too much on the forum for this specific reason, it's hurtful to read women berating women.

When a woman becomes a mother, does she assume that single identity for the rest of her life? Is a mother no longer a daughter, wife, friend, or woman? Is she just a mother? While I wish that the misunderstandings between Raman and Ishita should have been cleared before this track was introduced, I think that this track will add to the growth of IshRa's relationship. I have said this many a times before. Ishita and Raman came together sirf Ruhi ke liye and the catalyst that will push them forward in this relationship is also Ruhi herself. You know it's not just the Indian society but the world all over expects a woman to let go off everything when she becomes a mother. Suddenly her identity is of only a mother, she ceases to exist as a person, i think we need to evolve as a community to treat our mothers better.

Sorry for such a long post...I guess I got a bit carried away. 😳 This was a treat to read please don't apologize. I will go to bed enriched reading this.

Edited by Eyes-Wide-Shut - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey Doc sorry for taking time to edit this gah had power failure for 4 hours here 😡

I have to say I agree last night the episode at first watch seemed such a shabby cut paste job I wondered did they finish the edit and shooting minutes before the telecast or what here? Cos that seemed like it...


The technical department of this show is the crappiest ever on tellyland - if it werent for the writing and the ensemble cast particularly the leads and their chemistry which has us gripped this show would have tanked faster than you can blink...that is how terrible these guys are urghh.

I agree with you that the bit about Ruhi was the highlight of last night' episode in the LU thread as well it was the unanimous verdict that was passed out. The children that come from broken homes have it tough and sadly when the parents remarry they experience hell all over again which isnt certainly easy - no child oughta deserve such treatment repeatedly in their life.

Otherwise the episode was a letdown, I understand coping mechanisms and the strategy to deviate but after the incident in the bedroom the fact that they had these bickering like silly children scenes was unpalatable to me to be honest. I would have rather preferred silent scenes - where they have these staring sessions from across a room, unable to avoid each other, unable to disclose whats in their hearts and minds and of course unable to let on what transpired between them to their already tensed families...the fact that the bickering session was shown when neither knew they were being watched was just illogical to me, they could have shown the bickering as a facade to ensure the normalcy was maintained in front of the families, say Mrs Bhalla enquiring Raman about the bracelet and then them rowing over it to not let on what exactly happened privately but in privacy, having tension thick enough to be cut with a knife.

I enjoy humor like every other person, what got me hooked on this show was also that it is a slice of life - the drama or humor isnt OTT but I cringe when its shoved down our throats like it was last night.

I understand the pressure of trps and all but CVs were you perhaps high on something as you wrote, directed and edited this almost ghastly episode? Please let me know, a loyal viewer needs to know is all I wanna say.
Edited by EkPaheli - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sigh! I do not think we are getting a conversation anytime soon. Apparently now they are in some God forsaken jail continuing 'nok jhok'

Edited by Eyes-Wide-Shut - 10 years ago
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doc ...very nice post 👍🏼

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