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Originally posted by: Star_girl
Lol, it's an Ekta show. This is just the beginning. Soon enough, Raman will act as a wallpaper, making pointless appearances while Ishita will reign as the Goddess.
It's the golden rule of an Ekta show.
Originally posted by: DivAniTanni
Initially, except for 1st month of YHM, other initial 5-6 months, one or more other characters had much more screen space than any other else, even more than the other main two leads. Why dint you complain than😆? I have started watching YHM only from past 30 to 40 episodes but yes, did catch up with the old episodes, so couldn't point out anything even if I did not like anything about then. 😊 Secondly, am ok with the leads not getting enough screen space, if that's the demand of the track, I only want a realistic approach and a good story. Thirdly, other actors are not fools to have been casted in the show, they do play a character and its their right to get equal screen space.😊
Anyways, except for Mihir-Ishita talk, other three scenes were much needed.
1. Ishita is the one to bridge the gap b/w Ruhi and Raman always. She is the most important person needed in that convo. If it was not for Ishita, Raman could never ever win Ruhi. And, that was shown significantly in the test scene. And, the scene had still the same impact, it's just the couldn't be made as emotional as the previous epi's due to lots of dialogues b/w Raman and Ruhi. That's ur point of view and I respect it. Mine is a lil different, I felt Ishita could have brought the milkshake and just stood silently behind, all the silent talks done by her expressions were brilliant and I felt that was enough, she suddenly coming into the conversation seemed a bit awkward for me.
3. Anyone had to clarify things to the officials, either Raman or Ishita. If Raman shouts or taunts, that's okay for almost everyone, but if Ishita taunts or lectures, that irks some even if it is logical, why? We always wanted Ishita to stand for herself and Raman. So, when CVs are giving that, why are we finding problems in that? I never said that Ishita blasting the officials was wrong, in fact Raman blasting officials would have looked stupid in the state he was.😆 I just felt Ishita's lecture could have been cut short a lil and more powerful dialogues could have been written, the CV's just went a lil overboard.
4. Apart from Ishu, no one else teaches Ruhi significant lessons, not even Raman. I would again disagree with you on this point. Everybody in Bhalla house teaches Ruhi the right lessons. When Ruhi fights with Shravan, she is stopped by Mrs. Bhalla, when she uses wrong words, she is stopped by Raman, in fact even before Ishita came into Ruhi's life she was a well - mannered child, she was just a lonely and sad child who craved for a lil attention from her parents, so stating that Ishita is the only one who teaches Ruhi things is wrong.That scene was done to give a message to all parents to teach their kids like this. TBH, I found that scene the most important in the whole office scene. I found this scene completely unnecessary as no one asked her what Param had told her in the morning nor did Ruhi needed to know anything else, the girl's main aim to come to office was to learn if her father loved her or not, she found out, that was enough for her, she knew the reasons why the particular decision was taken, so anything more was out of place. Raman's one-liner was enough for Param, Ishita extending it to a lecture came as a shocker for me.
And, why does many have problems with Divyanka nowadays? I do not have any problem with DT or any other actor of the show. If I have a problem then its with the CV's who are going overboard with Ishita's character. It's like a group attack on her even for trivial things or for others' fault? As I said it is the Cv's fault. The scene dint click you, it could've direction problem or expectation problem. Why blaming indirectly her? I don't think any actors want all the lime lights of the show any time. Cos, it kills their free time and it requires their hard working also. It's upto CVs who think which scene is necessary and through whom to implement the scene as per the story. Agree with your points, would request you to re-read my post and understand, as from the starting my post never attacked DT, it was just the scene which I discussed, I should have used Ishita instead of DT which might have given u a mis-conception.
[Edited, as some parts are giving some fans problems.)
With all due respect, I would first like to say that I find it unnecessary and almost detrimental to the overall discussion and its purpose that you bring up Karan/Raman and his airtime in comparison to others in a post that is not about him, especially in the accusatory manner in which you did against the TM. We don't know how the TM feels/felt about KP/Raman's airtime. While I understand it's natural to make assumptions on how a person might feel about a certain topic by using what that person has expressed (to you) for another topic, it's unfair to do that when the two topics are independent of each other. As this thread is discussing Ishita and her role in today's Raman-Ruhi scenes, I fail to see how bringing up Karan/Raman's airtime, especially in the manner in which you did, furthers the discussion. It instead only dilutes the discussion and invites petty fan wars that could easily be avoided otherwise and which I'm sure we are all above. 😊Now, responding to your points:1) Ishita is indeed the bridge between Raman and Ruhi, and it is because of Ishita that Raman won Ruhi's custody. No argument from me there. Where I will argue your point is that her presence was of utmost requirement in this scene, for I find this quite inconsistent given the current status of the Raman and Ruhi relationship. Raman and Ruhi are not at their once fragile and damaged stage, where it was only Ishita that can bridge their distances and help them mend. We have moved very much beyond that, to a point where I would argue Raman and Ruhi can have such conversations on their own. This father-daughter relationship has progressed very nicely, mainly due to Ishita, but just because they were broken once and Raman was unable to communicate and express his love for his daughter, does not mean he is the same man today. Yes, Ruhi was scared, vulnerable, back at that low point where she thought her father didn't love her. Her feelings matched those of how she felt at the beginning of the Raman-Ruhi relationship, so it's understandable to think Ishita was necessary. The huge difference between then and now, however, is exactly how far Raman and Ruhi have come from that point. We have seen them build a relationship through Ishita, which is all expected and well, but we have also seen them slowly build a relationship that is just the two of them, independent of Ishita. I again acknowledge Ishita's role in facilitating this but would like to emphasize that once the independent relationship was built, it's not that Ishita's role was minimized, but rather rearranged to now fulfill other purposes, ie, she doesn't necessarily have to be present in such sensitive conversations between the father and daughter duo. This conversation was one in which a daughter was desperate to know her father loved her and a father desperate to prove to his daughter that he loved her; the mother can and should provide moral support, but largely, I believe, let the two sort this out. It is a private matter between the two involved, a private moment, that I believe, should not be interrupted by anyone. Ishita helped Raman win Ruhi's custody, yes, but ultimately and eventually, Raman won Ruhi's love himself (today was a perfect example).2) I again would like to say that bringing up Raman in an attempt to prove a point about Ishita doesn't further the overall discussion and its purpose. I will therefore overlook your questions about Raman and his taunts (although I'm happy to discuss my views on this if someone opens such a topic) and instead respond only to the points about Ishita. I believe the issue the TM had with Ishita's lectures was in their length and placement. I, too, found her lectures very long and and the placement inappropriate, only because they interrupted the flow of an otherwise beautiful moment depicting the love between a father and daughter. I especially found the last 'truth prevails' lecture unnecessary in this particular scene. We have a six-year-old who is on top of the world knowing her father loves her and a father happy to know he won his daughter's love. This was a lovely scene because it was about love. The lecture on truth interrupted that flow, interrupted that feel. I didn't want to hear her lecture on truth prevailing, not right now. I wanted to see the scene that was initially set-up, a scene about the love between a father and daughter. The truth played a role in confirming this love, indeed, but it was not something I needed to hear or see, especially at length, in this particular scene.3) Due to what I believe is heavy-handed and unimaginative writing at times by the CVs, I believe we often forget that there was a Ruhi before Ishita, a damaged one yearning for her father's love, but one who came from an otherwise loving family. If memory serves me correctly, her grandmother (and buas) played a large role in Ruhi's upbringing. While she was unhappy and wanted a mother's love, she was not a miserable child without manners, common sense, and knowing right from wrong. Ishita has undoubtedly played a significant role in teaching Ruhi and raising her to be a good girl, but from what I remember, Ruhi was a pretty good kid before Ishita, too, albeit a sad one. I understand the need for giving a social message, but I don't believe this was the time and place.Overall, I found the Raman-Ruhi scenes fabulous, but would have appreciated if some of that time that was spent on Ishita giving lectures while Raman-Ruhi were in the background to instead have been the the other way around. It would have been nicer to have Raman and Ruhi in the foreground just a bit more with Ishita instead in the background, as the scene was ultimately about the bond between a father and daughter,
Originally posted by: Let-It-Go
I am coming across for the first time that there is problem regarding airtime of lead. Ishita is the binding factor and she needs to be there . I adored the fact that ishita was shown aware of Ruhi's fav person when Raman answered it to be Ishima.
Regarding Param and the lesson, well he openly challenged her so she had to give it back to him.
Please guys . Dont make this show a warzone of lead.
Originally posted by: Tanyaarora11
As strange as it might sound in my head for yesterday's episode I agree!
As important was Ishita's presence, her lectures were uncalled for. Honestly speaking the Ruhi Raman scene was so impactful and sentimental, I would have loved if that scene would have happened in their house with Ishita just sitting there. I can't deny the fact that the progress they've made in their relationship is solely because of Ishita. She was the turning point in their relationship at all levels, she bridged the gab between them. For me, it was too personal and emotional scene which was ruined by presence of villains and Ishita's lectures. Really wasn't required, as much as I realise it was about a contract that Raman needed to win, I felt this scene was too special for the eyes of unknown people and villains and even if you take reality who comes in conferences to sort out issues? I know many will disagree with me but that's what I felt.
Like Raman, even I feel the campaign/contract is too little an issue in front of his daughter, I loved how he barged out of the room! I liked his part the most! He spoke amazing dialogues with utmost sincerity and very well enacted by Karan. Ruhanika was again fantastic. Now, coming to Divyanka I am actually in two minds about this,on one hand I sure shortly believe that her presence accentuated the entire scene, it was very well required, her being the soul of both of them but at the same time her lectures to Mihir or others felt a little out of place. I. Get your point that we were glued and extremely emotional in Ruhi Raman and all of a sudden her clamouring at the people was a little weird, also it's a business place, you don't really talk about your family issues in front of so many people and prove your husband's innocence so he would get the contract. I felt the contract was too little an issue to ruin the Ruhi Raman scene.
Had this taken place in Ruhi's bedroom with Ishita as a witness, it would have had much more impact.
Originally posted by: Star_girl
Lol, it's an Ekta show. This is just the beginning. Soon enough, Raman will act as a wallpaper, making pointless appearances while Ishita will reign as the Goddess.
It's the golden rule of an Ekta show.
Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy
disagree with your post.
ishita was required to handle out come as final gist of this drama.she spoke what was needed as it was for business process
raman can't speak immediately after solving all doubts raised by his kid. it would have been completely out of character if you speak in aggressive tone after you have been facing mental trauma and little daughters heart break as well. ishita was required to finish in aggressive manner and why she must be there to complete family and she is the only bridge to connect raman with ruhi . because despite of raman s unlimited love for ruhi he could not connect with her completely till she entered their life.
neither raman can't show he has done this drama . if he would have spoken those dialogues of ishita, looked completely fake and as if ruhi and ishu were called there to create drama. here raman and ruhi were needed to be shown as victim of this chaos and ishita helping them to come out. so I feel it was completely natural.