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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: FieryLioness


true Taani 😆


chalo dearies me off for some time...eyes r hurting now...

byeee Taani, Vyas ,appuss,Haya , sobha and alll
it was nice time here 😊


Okay...It was really fun here.
Vy thanks for making this post. It reminded of one of Nisha's post about Raman😆.
Bye Meet. Even I too am leaving for some times.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: DivAniTanni


Okay...It was really fun here.
Vy thanks for making this post. It reminded of one of Nisha's post about Raman😆.
Bye Meet. Even I too am leaving for some times.



Bye tanni meet and everyone else

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Posted: 11 years ago
And dt note seems bit too harsh

As there was nothing objectionable in my thread
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Bruce_L

Wow! What an appreciation thread of Raman.
Least am bothered if below said are considered as am defending Raman. Nothing said in specific. Its an overall opinion of mine.
Well, Mr.Raman Bhalla may seem like running after things which he doesn't have but not to forget, he does know the value of precious things he has and tries his level best to not lose it. That is the reason, still he has managed to have his families and his wife understand his plight as a father even being alone in this fight for his son.
Raman doesn't have to worry at all or think about Ruhi since he knows she has got the Mother, someone like Ishita, who will put even all her life at stake for Ruhi at times when needed. Ruhi is in the safe hands of Ishita, who knows it all.
This is not the case with Adi. Even if Shagun pretends to be caring for Adi, but thats not the truth which Raman has got to witness time and again. Adi's responsibility lies on the shoulder of one of the most selfish careless person that is Shagun who has failed big time as a Mother. Raman has again seen its consequences now during Amma's accident. Hence, Raman's concern for Adi is increasing day by day.
The day when Raman will get to know that Adi is in the safest hands, we will get to see less of above.
Till then, it would go on and Raman's fatherly love will be questioned at each level but nothing can stop him from caring for his son, whether for that he takes the right or wrong path. Cos, after all, A CHILD IS A CHILD!!!
And am just wondering how Raman's each and every action is noted down but none is understood in its real sense. Amazing!
Action speaks more than words - Raman not only expects this from others but he himself follows this. If we claim that we know him so well, we will think twice before coming to a conclusion about him.
Anyways, am done with it but ofcourse with no hope that Raman's actions are not taken in wrong sense.


I totally agree with you. Raman is more worried about Adi as he's being raised by an irresponsible woman and a man with no morals. In the recent few episodes we are shown Raman as a father only... as to how caring and concerned he is. Intially when Ishita met him she had concluded he was a rude and negligent parent and gradually as she understood him, her opinion changed. Ruhi is young but Adi is almost going to be a teenager inculcated with wrong wrong beliefs and morals...so he is worried. He isn't proud of the fact that his son has committed such a crime nor is he happy by covering it...but he has no choice. He has hope against hope that by doing so Adi might realise how much he loves his son and give him an opportunity to be a part of his life and then he hopes to guide his son in the right path. He has hurt Ishita a lot regarding this... but only as a father. In the picnic episodes we saw him saying that she being angry and hurt is totally justified...but he's helpless as a father. And in the previous episode we saw Ishita taking suggestions from her mother and mom-in-law...she wanted to know how parents think and feel.
Look at the +ve side...even though he's supporting his son...as a husband he has stood by Ishita in public. He has never let Param or Shagun to insult her...he even asked Pathak not to drag his family into this mess...esp Ishita. Even when drunk he apologized to her in front of all. Agreed he blamed her for the photo's disappearance...but he did so in his room...not in front of all...esp Shagun.

Ekta portrays her main female character as larger than life...and others as mere mortals who commit mistakes...and that's the reason for such outbursts at other characters. Raman was depicted poorly yesterday...lord knows what the cv's were thinking...or were they really thinking at all.
No offense meant to Ishita's fans... I too like her character. She a matured and dignified lady with class. But do take into consideration Raman is a father first and then a husband for her.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Nice thread, TM.
Well we all know how desi tv works, you have a female patronizing who is made to be some sort of magical Mahaan person , who is always righteous and can do sins, keep secrets and just be utter selfless . But we should applaud the creatives here because they have presented a totally different take. Here the Male Hero, Raman is the tragedy King and the Mahaan insaan who is ready to put relationships, career, his other child all on line for his EGO - yes you read right, this is not about Adi atall.

If it was a father's love and concern then he would have never allowed this case to land up in court. He would have begged, pleaded or even bullied for saving his child. Why did he not consider Mrs Iyers' actions and told her the truth and manipulated her in withdrawing the case. Where was his intelligence when he failed to judge Ishita as a person and agreed to Shagun's demands which doesn't make sense.

For a second we buy his majboori but why did he let Shagun pull the strings . Should he not have threatened and scolded her for bad parenting and warned her about a custody battle.

This all seems to happen because he cannot accept that he failed as a parent and his son is a potential criminal who could have killed someone.

This is not about Ishita's status as his wife but his role as a Parent. He has not made one sensible practical step in saving Adi , he has not reprimanded that brat and he for sure has neglected Ruhi. Imagine if these two grew up together how ignored Ruhi would have been by a father who is obsessed with Adi.

Yes Ishita and Co are self-righteous ,who sprout off moral speeches and who seem to waver from their decisions, but all said and done they have not raised a kid who has no remorse for his actions. They were forced to knock at the court's doors and will have to back out because never in their dreams did they imagined the guilty to be a 11 year old kid especially Raman's child.

Now what will happen next ,Raman would do the juvenile drama, Ishita would feel guilty and he would milk all the sympathizes. So who becomes all mahaan - The Majboor Dad- Raman.


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Posted: 11 years ago
all the ques has one simple answer...addi is the first born of raman nd even in reality,parents are more attached to their first born...they experiences their childhood,first experiences of being parent,small stuffs like shown in epi (med report)...all things are being experienced 4r first tym...thts why he carees more abt adi than ruhi...ruhi was raman wish not shagun nd ruhi birth doesnt contain more gud moments...three ques are much answered in my view nd last ques ...at tht moment,he was pretty much worried abt the case nd tht was shown as when shagun tried to blame ishu,he reverted back...which shows his care for ishu...nd guilt feeling will be fully shown in next week...
i am not in defenders of raman...i am also opposed to his obsession 4r adi but if we give areality check to this situation,he is justified in the sense tht everyone tries to save their children...but thts also imp tht we taught them the right path if will show in next epi(thnks god 4r tht)

thts only my take...😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
i'm so happy that these much responses will make yhm no.1 again.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Nice thread, TM.

Well we all know how desi tv works, you have a female patronizing who is made to be some sort of magical Mahaan person , who is always righteous and can do sins, keep secrets and just be utter selfless . But we should applaud the creatives here because they have presented a totally different take. Here the Male Hero, Raman is the tragedy King and the Mahaan insaan who is ready to put relationships, career, his other child all on line for his EGO - yes you read right, this is not about Adi atall.

If it was a father's love and concern then he would have never allowed this case to land up in court. He would have begged, pleaded or even bullied for saving his child. Why did he not consider Mrs Iyers' actions and told her the truth and manipulated her in withdrawing the case. Where was his intelligence when he failed to judge Ishita as a person and agreed to Shagun's demands which doesn't make sense.

For a second we buy his majboori but why did he let Shagun pull the strings . Should he not have threatened and scolded her for bad parenting and warned her about a custody battle.

This all seems to happen because he cannot accept that he failed as a parent and his son is a potential criminal who could have killedsomeone.

This is not about Ishita's status as his wife but his role as a Parent. He has not made one sensible practical step in saving Adi , he has not reprimanded that brat and he for sure has neglected Ruhi. Imagine if these two grew up together how ignored Ruhi would have been by a father who is obsessed with Adi.

Yes Ishita and Co are self-righteous ,who sprout off moral speeches and who seem to waver from their decisions, but all said and done they have not raised a kid who has no remorse for his actions. They were forced to knock at the court's doors and will have to back out because never in their dreams did they imagined the guilty to be a 11 year old kid especially Raman's child.

Now what will happen next ,Raman would do the juvenile drama, Ishita would feel guilty and he would milk all the sympathizes. So who becomes all mahaan - The Majboor Dad- Raman.




Well

You are right

I will put it this way

He had fear of losing something he never had

He just took shortcut to save adi of suppressing evidence and telling lies

If he had taken a normal route like telling his family and begging pleading etc this would have been solved long back

Ppl here talk about faults of ishita in pursuing case and how Raman was right in hiding the crime

But they forget magnitude of crime adi did of nearly killing someone and to be worse no remorse over his actions

In the end it was all about making Raman a hero

Well they made ishita a hero but it was just as a metaphor
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Elita



<font color="#006633">I totally agree with you. Raman is more worried about Adi as he's being raised by an irresponsible woman and a man with no morals. In the recent few episodes we are shown Raman as a father only... as to how caring and concerned he is. Intially when Ishita met him she had concluded he was a rude and negligent parent and gradually as she understood him, her opinion changed. Ruhi is young but Adi is almost going to be a teenager inculcated with wrong wrong beliefs and morals...so he is worried. He isn't proud of the fact that his son has committed such a crime nor is he happy by covering it...but he has no choice. He has hope against hope that by doing so Adi might realise how much he loves his son and give him an opportunity to be a part of his life and then he hopes to guide his son in the right path. He has hurt Ishita a lot regarding this... but only as a father. In the picnic episodes we saw him saying that she being angry and hurt is totally justified...but he's helpless as a father. And in the previous episode we saw Ishita taking suggestions from her mother and mom-in-law...she wanted to know how parents think and feel.</font>
<font color="#006633">Look at the +ve side...even though he's supporting his son...as a husband he has stood by Ishita in public. He has never let Param or Shagun to insult her...he even asked Pathak not to drag his family into this mess...esp Ishita. Even when drunk heapologizedto her in front of all. Agreed he blamed her for the photo'sdisappearance...but he did so in his room...not in front of all...esp Shagun.</font>

<font color="#006633">Ekta portrays her main female character as larger than life...and others as mere mortals who commit mistakes...and that's the reason for such outbursts at other characters. Raman was depicted poorly yesterday...lord knows what the cv's were thinking...or were they really thinking at all.</font>
<font color="#006633">No offense meant to Ishita's fans... I too like her character. She a matured and dignified lady with class. But do take into consideration Raman is a father first and then a husband for her.</font>



Sorry

Being a father does not do anyone to do as anyone pleases in name of majboori

You say he stood by her in public but doubted her privately but that is more worse as it means he really believes she stole the photos

Being a majboor and father can't justify all the crap he has done by which he hurt ishita

Being a father does not mean abandon all rationale and act in destructive way
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Posted: 11 years ago
I really want to know answer from one who accuses Raman for selfish in adi case. them answer me didn't Ishita do selfish in param case. in fact Raman feeling guilty about his actions. himself knows he did mistake then how could we accuse him. I agree he did mistake but I hope he will clear all.

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