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Posted: 14 years ago
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😆jab icha ne mukta ki care kari thi tab kio tapo fans kah rahe the icha bachi chor hai😡icha ko pata tha yeh uski bachi hai aur ab veericha ka baby unke paas hai to abb unko kio nhi kahte chorrr😡stupid🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ichhvee

😆jab icha ne mukta ki care kari thi tab kio tapo fans kah rahe the icha bachi chor hai😡icha ko pata tha yeh uski bachi hai aur ab veericha ka baby unke paas hai to abb unko kio nhi kahte chorrr😡stupid🤢



None are chhors🥱 At first we were thinking as an educated woman why Ichha is acting so dumb not to report the baby as missing to the police or at least ATTEMPT to find the baby's parents but later we realised that CVs want to do a baby swap so clearly they have no intention to make either lady report the baby missing to the police. Its highly stupid on the part of the cvs but kya kare😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan

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Some people have one track mind they see things from only one angle but quite conveniently forget to see that there might be other angles too. Yes some people's state of mind force them to take certain actions. If her state of mind at that time would have forced her to muder Ichha then she would have done that. Why, even Veer could have killed Tapu when he found how Tapu lied to him. 😃 😃 Yes a sensible view. Thank you. People's state of mind is still very much a mystery. 😉 Nothing has been concluded so far in it's research.
wow great logic to defend a person in this way👏by this osama bin laden was innocent too because his state of mind was like that and i have taunted you about sensible thing and i believe you are not that much innocent who cannot differentiate between a taunt and fact 😆 and by this logic ichcha and veer are innocent too 😉their state of mind so why are you always so keen to criticize them 😆
How do you know that all 100% people leave their kids only and only if they have some important work. In western countries esp, it is quite common knowledge that people leave their small kids too, just to have fun on the weekend or for a holiday.
In india people do not do that but yes they also leave their kids for shopping or whatever chore they have to do or want to do. Nobody can take gaurantee of saying that all 100% people do not go out

As for raising their kids of course people whether in India or western countries who have given birth or adopted babies raise their kids on their own Who else would do that for them. Similarly, Both Raghu and Tapu are doing a much better job of raising Yuvraaj then Veer and Ichchha who doesn't even know that their adopted orphan kids are being ill treated at Bzoo. Why did Ichcha came to Raghu and Tapu's party knowing that Mai cannot treat them well knowing that besides her no one is there in Bzoo who can look after them. Again she left them at bzoo to BF someone else's child leaving her kids with Damini this time again Kanha was ill treated bymai and wow Clap this time he was being called a thief only bcoz by mistake he went to mai's room to pick up his ball. How careless of Ichchha 🤢
how do you know they all leave for petty things 😕and in which language i should make you understand that i am not supporting ichcha's act😵 and can you give me one solid reason why tapasya went to invite them 😕similarly didn't she know nani too hates yuvraj so why she is leaving him with servants and nani there too?...tell me ? and your great Raghu knows how nani misbehaves with his daimaa?didn't your great tappu and Raghu know nani don't like yuvraj ...so give me one solid reason to leave the kid with servants and nani at home and go for shopping 😕will servants be able to stop nani 😕

No Actually I have seen this episode very clearly 😃 all the episodes. Giving birth does not tie anyone to the baby esp when there is a help available. If parents wants to go shopping then they should if they are confortable toleave their child with someone else. Quite clearly, both Tapu and Raghu were v much comfortable to leave the baby with Geeta to look after him. Everyday it is happening people go to work or any no of chores they have to leaving their child with someone else tolook after him orher. If amother can leave a child with maid to go to work then can't she go for shopping may be to get diapers or clothes nappies or get medicines etc.

Besides, both raghu and tapu had quite clearly said in earlier episode that the servants will not look after the baby but only Tapu. Not once have they shown that Geeta had done anything for Yuvraj only Tapu was been shown doing anything for him. Once it was nani who forcefully gave Yuvraj to Geeta as she chatted with Tapu. Even Tapu was reluctant to give the baby to her even then.
😆😆😆 very funny view you have written in here i think by this dialogue of nani you have shopped few days back and tapasya replied me and mr rathore love shopping for baby 😆😆😆is clear they went for extra shopping and do you think that Geeta could have managed to stop nani if she had misbehaved with the child both raghu and tappu know nani don't like him😆and also i think both raghu and tappu ko chulo bhar pani mein doob marna chahye when ichcha was feeding the baby😆 one thing is baby only drink milk when he is hungry so where was Geeta and all the servants baby is hungry and ichcha is feeding him 😕

o again same thing do you bother to read other's posts before commenting 😕and o valid reason for her every wrong act .😲papa asked her beta do you have any problem with veer ichcha marriage no problem ...when seeing bracelet valid reason for marrying veer ...veer didn't accepted valid reason to kill ichcha ...vansh caught her lie valid reaosn to fuel him up ...ichcha and veer came home married valid reason for pregnancy stuff ...veer threw her out after her lie was caught valid reason to leave mukhta in orphanage ...bravo ..and yes both have done wrong acts and both of them paid for it with their lives destruction neither ichcha is saint neither tappu is ..neither small illetrate women who can't differentiate between right and wrong

😕First give answers to my questions why are you molding them 🥱as usual to defend tappu bring ichcha's faults and fill the space 😆

What was the valid reason for letting both Damini and Ichchha living in the Thakur house
Because jogi killed Damini's husband and ichcha's father ...and it was a mutual decision by divya and jogi and tapasya also use to love ichcha a lot ..she had fever when once divya kicked ichcha out so they didn't know one day she will become so jealous because she cannot see her 9 things out of ten but one thing which ichcha has make her jealous🥱
what was the valid reason for punishing Tapu for everything the way she was punished
so you want her to be loved for her every wrong action ...if i slap you now will you not give me back or you will hug me 😆i think every parent in the world punish their children when they wrong so that next time they won't do it but the problem is Tapasya has never been punished properly everytime jogi punished her damini , ichcha and divya stood for defence so how she would be treated 🥱
what was the valid reason for sending her to hostel
that was a bit too much.. jogi should have beaten her two slaps for her act but sending her to hostel was not fair i agree because it gave her a reason to cry for injustice with her 😆and more hatred for ichcha though when she made a promise with ichcha never call my parents your parents both of them lived a happy life..watch the episodes when show took a fresh leap ..they both were very happy untill veer gave ichcha diamond bracelet .😆
what was the valid reason for treating a servant's daughter like ichhha was treated
typical tappu fan reply o hello jogi killed her father he wanted to repent it by giving her some of fatherly love what's wrong in that ...damini was not a born servant all thanks to jogi damini became servant ...if you see the serial with open eyes you will see a lot of difference in ichcha and tapasya apart from same colllege and school ...ichcha didn't have anything that tappu had ..tappu use to roam in cars while ichcha ? tapu's clothes jewllery and all that stuff ..everthing came for tapasya first even veer so where ichcha was prefrred over tappu let me know 😕
what was the valid reason for ignoring Tapu's jealousy
😕 what sort of question is this .. ...after having so many things why she was eyeing on ichcha 's one thing ..why giving veer herself to ichcha when seeing seeing bracelet so jealous i tell you because she couldn't see ichcha one step higher than her and also jealousy is a natural phenomena it happens to many people when they see others one step higher than them or being happy so with tappu and who was ignoring her jealousy she was showing to be perfect calm and cool infront of others behind back showing her true self
what was the valid reason for Gungaan of Ichchha;'s mahanta
🤣this is your jealousy speaking ...my dear heroes are suppose to be mahaan in fiction or you want villian to be mahaan 🤣..i know ichcha is dumb..nullifies the qualities of heroes but one thing heroes are suppose to be mahaan ..even if hero of fiction is also the negative protagonist like in sweeny todd johnny depp is but in the end he accepted his sins that he did blinded by revenge and given himself to be killed which is also been reffered to as his mahantaa...😆because only a hero can have these guts to accept his sins and present himsefl to be punished ...and good works are always appreciated 😆
what was the valid reason for letting nani keep poisioning tapu's mind, what was the valid reason for ignoring nani's all riminal deeds
what was the valid reaosn for tappu only listening to nani when things came to her favor ..she was screaming marry veer but tappu only listend to her when seeing bracelet and jogi thakur didn't know what was going behind his back because outwardely both of them were happy with veer ichcha marriage ...secondly nani never knew tappu is planning ichcha's murder ..it was tappu's idea for vansh ichcha marriage and creating rift between them..it was tappu's work of instigating vansh to kill himself ..nani came to instigate tappu for veer kinjal marriage tappu veer can go to hell...nani's idea was fake pregnancy but tappu herself was showing to be goody gopdy infront of everyone as she doesn't want to come in between veer ichcha now jogi's fault is that he trusted his daughter that she has changed ...now your genius rathore has kept nani in his house doesn't he know what kind of woman nani is do you criticize him for that ...😆
what was the valid reason for not seeing all that was going on in Tapu's life.
😕if you are talking about uttaran characters they are seeing it if me i see things happening in all people's lives not like tappu fans only focussing on tappu rest are sinners😆 ...what is the valid reason for you not seeing all the things happing in others lives ?😆
What was the valid reason for leting Veer marryTapu
because ichcha loved tappu blindly ..she said she loves tappu more than veer cannot see her friend dying infront of her ...but that was absolutely wrong of her😡 for that she is being criticized even veer blasted her not once but at many places and she apologised from veer too for it at construction sight...
what was valid reason for tappu to marry veer when she herself first gave veer to ichcha , also had a life scarificing boyfriennd with her ?😉
what was the valid reason for hiding this truth form Thakurs
because ichcha loved tappu blindly... hiding taspasya 's wrong acts was wrong from ichcha😡 ..but what was valid reason for tappu for lying ?😆
what was the valid reason for being manipulated by mai and tapu into marrying vansh
because ichcha loved tappu blindly and she wanted to save veer tappu marriage ..i don't approve that ...🤢
what was the vaild reason for tappu to create a rift between vansh ichcha it was not nani's idea ...it was entirely tappu's plan ?😕😆
what was the valid reason for not taking vanshinto confidence
😕vansh fell in love with ichcha to tell you the truth she came to know quite late after her meeting that vansh was veer's brother and she was not ready to marry him when nani came with begging save veer tappu marriage because veer had divorced tapasya and wanted to marry ichcha ..ichcha's decision to marry vansh not listening to ammo and jogi was wrong ..i criticize her for this 😡she was being warned that vansh is in not in right state of mind but she didn't listen😡 and i think it was tapasya who took vansh into her confidence by revealing half truth to him ..why are you molding the truth here 😕
what was the valid reason for letting ichha marry vansh
she wanted to save veer tappu marriage 😆because veer had divorced tapasya and wanted to marry ichcha and ichcha loved tappu blindly 😡wrong act of ichcha 😡and veer was helpless because he was alone as everyone wanted this marriage including ichcha...so were jogi and damini as ichcha left the house because they were not allowing her to get married to vansh😡🤢
what was the valid reason for veer for not telling true to vansh before his marriage
need for you see the serial with open eyes ..because vansh was extremely posessive about ichcha ..walking on flames , standing in rain ..creating havoc when jogi said no for marriage creating a havoc when in holi someone touched ichcha ...mai begged infront of veer to sacrifice his love and not to reveal truth to vansh because he would not be able to take it it was also a fact if veer told vansh the truth he would never have married ichcha because he loved his brother a lot and veer could not see it his brother taking one step towards good life with ichcha after living a miserable life and due to him he lose that but still i think after marriage he should have told vansh the truth and make him understand to live a good life with ichcha but i think veer lived in the same fear still hiding truth from his brother was wrong from veer
what was the valid reason for not clearing vansh's doubts
ichcha and veer should have cleared his doubts ..should have told him the truth ...there they were wrong but as i said before ichcha loved tappu blindly she wanted to save her even in her letter she had not written the full truth ..extremley wrong of her 😡and veer wanted to save vansh ichcha marraige because the type of person vansh was after knowing the truth he would have kicked ichcha out too 😆but this was really wrong of him ..he should have made him understand but but but he was wrong there but not a sinner
what was the valid reason for ounishing only tapu throwing out only tapu and why not mai
why not nani why not veerwhy not ichha
what kind of 😕 point is this tappu was thrown out of bundela house for her wrong works both times even out of jogi's house she instigated vansh to commit suicide even ichcha's murder attempt and all that stuff..why should mai be thrown out because she has trusted tapasya 😕and why should veer be kicked out what one crime he as committed as compared to tapasya Shockedand from where he should be kicked out😕 and ichcha herself left the house so many times even more than tapasya being kicked out 😆and nani previously was not the master minds of many tappu's plans e'g ichcha's murder and including vansh ichcha track to vansh's suicide , robbing from house ...now she was mastermind and divya kicked her out haven't you seen that episode
what was the valid reason for taking tapu back to bzoo after her pregnancy news
mai wanted her vansh and as i told you ichcha the mahan atama who still loved tappu wanted justice for her child because she believed her it was veer 's child but
what was the valid reason for pregnancy stuff on veer first faking it then thoping rathore's child on him when rathore was dying to accept her and her child ?😕
What was the valid reason for hiding tapu's pregnancywhat was the valid treason for hiding Rathor's truthwhat was the valid treason for hiding Rathore's truth
as i told you before ichcha loved tappu blindliy ..no matter whatever she says one part of her wanted to save her if tapasya would have accepted her mistake she would have been saved from big insults or left quietly no one would have guessed whats wrong and ichcha also didn't want to hurt veer who was getting attached with the baby ..hiding truth .wrong from ichcha 😡
what was the valid reason for hiding veer's sterility
wrong from ichcha she didn't want to hurt veer but she hurted him more by hiding
what was the valid reason when Veer took tapu out just before her delivery
because tapasya wanted to tell him something important 😕and he thought she has changed what was sin in it ?😕you crack very good jokes 😆😆
what was the valid reason for not believeing Ichchha but trusting Tapu
he didn't trusted tappu he trusted the reports ..and i think ichcha was certianly not a trustworthy after her continuos lying later coming with half truth without any proof but what was wrong from veer he should have conctacted dr.soni ...and then slapped both of them😡
what was the valid reason for believing Tapu even after Raghu spilt the beens about Mukta
😕if you watch the episode clearly veer doubted her ..doubt seeds were there he didn't believe tappu mai stopped him from DNA test but veer was wrong there he should have gone for DNA TEST but is it a sin equilavlent to thoping your illegimate on someone else and lying and playing with his emotions 😕.

The trutth there never have been anyvalid reason on anyone's part to take actions. They have alldone pastmistakesdue towhich one thing led to another and all this lead to more mistekes and more crimes by not just Tapu but everyone. Every action by everyone have interlinks, connections due to which things got worse and worse.
Tapu is not the only sinnerin Uttaran. 😃
Thank God you accepted tappu is a sinner 👏👏and yes in my view one who commit a crime and one who hides it and supports are equals ..if ichcha hadn't supported tappu in her previous acts by hiding... every thing would have been saved ...ichcha never committed tappu type sins but she hid them there she played an equal part in her sins .but mahanta is not a sin ..😆ichcha is mahaan only for tappu the great rest she is a lot weak ...but one thing intention wise i will say ichcha intentionally never wanted to hurt anyone ..she did that all because she loved tappu ..she thought she was doing right ..she never meant to hurt anyone but tappu the great only did all that for her own self and to hurt ichcha..even she tried to hurt her father to take revenge from him which ichcha never did ... nani is a sinner, mai is a sinner but jogi and veer 's pov that you have presented are worth laughing because repenting your mistake is not a sin neither beleiving in someone when she is doing drama to have changed ,it can be called foolsheness not a sin ..so jogi and veer are not equal to tappu and neither mai is at least she never wanted to kill anyone ...so tappu is ahead of many due to her big sins only nani can give her tough competition 😆

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I did that. I am a great Tapu fan. I like her with all her mistakes and good things, her strenght and her weakness. You know very well that whenever she does anytthing wrong knowingly or unknowingly I always say whether she is wrong or not. At that time also I said it was insentive of her. So what. She is trying her best to forget her past. In it's process she did that. By can't she do anything wrong just bcoz she made some mistakes in the past do we always judge her through her past. I will not do that I will praise when she should be and I will criticise when she needs to be. Why should anyone always see negative about her?????

If Tapu Raas l;eela karna chahe gi to woh bhi shaan se. 👍🏼 karegi
she has not made only mistakes but sins... planning to kill someone is a crime not a mistake and where she tried her best to forget the past forgetting the past meant going to meet ichcha for sorry for her baby loss not rub salt on Bundela's wounds to invite them for baby's naamkaran
😆and also this facts applies everywhere every person will appreciated where he is right criticized where he is wrong so why this crying that tappu is critczed all the time and throughout your post you are defending her wong acts by bringing darwin's theory ..just because you love an actor for that you will love and appreciate her negative character 😕..great logic 😆..mmm i don't have such approach ..but i am happy with it that i love and appreciate a character on its right works not on my love for an actor 😊

Ichchha fans are always ready to ill mouth her when did does not deserve it even then why shouldn't Tapu fans do the same. Being a Tapu fan I have praised Ichchha whenever she needs to be praised I have guts to say that bcoz it is right. Even you know that. But I have never encountered any Ichchha fan saying anything right about Tapu. Tapu fans are doing great job of supporting tapu same as Ichchha fans. never have I came accross any Ichhha fan saying her habit of not speaking out and her stupid habit of hiding things even from her husband is bad its wrong of her. Never ever.

But about BF many Indian women knows from personel experienceand point of views that it is wrong that is why they supported it.
so all this is for revenge thing .😆..tappu is being criticized for her worng acts ..and i think even you know it that i am not an ichch but again and again whenever i say something to tappu you do come up with ichcha thing everythime ..and you cannot expect others to praise tappu where she is wrong neither anyone can expect ichcha to be praised where she is wrong ...if tappu fans . they support her every evil act and blame the other characters why so irritated when it comes to ichcha 's defence and people here are supporting her breast feeding thing but not without permissinon thing as some great tappu fans are calling her cheap woman ..who is breast feeding hungry baby because feeding a hungry baby is not wrong but without permission is wrong i think you really need to read their posts with open eyes and then comment ...this topic is also created by an ichcha fan not from tappu fan and i am sorry you might have praised ichcha for once or sometimes but your posts are not much different from any other tappu fan defending her each action and putting blames on others 😆
From above points, I have made sure when a mother needs to leave her baby with parent in laws or grand parents or even maides they will do so no mater who else is against it.
when mothers are present in the house they feed their baby on their own and tappu knows nani hates yuvraj so why she gave to her ...if you think ichcha leaving her babies with in laws knowingly how much they hate them is wrong so why not tapasya's?Shocked

She gave her baby to dai jaan who is the best person to look after the baby
i think damini is also the best person to take care of babies 😆
. Even in our houses when name ceremoney or any party takes place usually new mothers hand over the baby to maids orparents or parent in laws or other relatives bcoz they have to attend guests in reality it happens all the time.
😆😆 servants can handle parties too especially when rathore instructed them so well and in reality it too happens many times ...mothers go feed the children ...care for .guests by asking servants to take care of the guests ..guests are not more important then own children .😆and tapasya's child is few days old you cannot compete him with adult children
I have seen it. Infact mothers take their mades to certain parties where children are not aloud
i have seen many mothers even when attending a party if their children need anything they leave party for them ...so don't be confident on the things which you have seen is only true and only right ...yuvraj is just few days old think about it ?
but thee is a separete room for mades and children to stay.
how you apply this theory to few days old child .😕.
Ichchha also did that didn't she. left her kids to cruel mai hitler bzoo.
i think kasa kaka is also a turtable servant like geeta but you are not diggesting the fact she lfet the kids whith mai there at home so why you are you appreciating tappu's act wow what a double attitude
But if shedid it then it was ok. What was it you said . Tum karo to raas leela hum karen to character dheela. WOW WOA Clap Clap WHAT LOGIC !!!!! 👍🏼 👍🏼 😉
copycat 😆at least copy sensibly when tappu fans leave no opportunity to degarde ichcha even when she is not wrong then why expect flowers for even every tappu's wrong act? ...and who is saying ichcha 's act of leaving kids there as ok ...i didn't say it Shockedbut you are continously defending tappu's acts by same logic ichcha fans do that ..i am talking about tappu and you are answering me with ichcha ...first read posts then comment and copy 😆infact tappu fans logic is very good if tappu do anything wrong she is child ,circumstances made her that ,,,every person is responsible for her barbaadi because she is a small baby and o yeah rashmi desai is very hot 😆😆 ..when it comes to other characters uff 😆 if some one say anything to tapasya start crying ichcha fans do this worth laughing logic 🤣


I am surprised you are even asking this question. To survive people do worse then what tapu did. Yes she was insecured you said it which led her to do what she did. Who was responsible for it. I am sure you do not have any answer to it. and if you do then you do not believe in this. No matter. Law does not see what it wants to law also see hidden facts. I know you find everything funny. Tapu fans also accept what she did was her fau;lts and her mistakes but we also except that there were some reasons behind it. But do Ichchha fans see beyond these so called criminal activites I have never encountered any ichchha fan who once smight have said yes there were some mistakes by others as well. I have never encountered Ichchha fans to except some of these criminal activites might have been faned by other people esp Ichhha herself.

Tali hamesha do haathon se bajti hai ek se nahi
please i am surpised that you can say that in love with a pathetic character and o hello there is no law who leaves a person's crime in act of instigation ..if tapasya would have killed ichcha would she be freed by court due to insecurity Shockedand according to you if to survive peope do worse are they justifiable? .Shocked.for greed if people do worse are they justifiable ?Shocked..do you know what you are talking?😕 means in this way every criminal in the world is right ..because everyone do wrong for survival ..kill people for money , ruin lives in jealousy like tappu and i think before writing the same lines again and again do some researh on this forum and see the discussion how much ichcha has been criticized for her wrong acts including by me ...who even once said she should be killed worthless character ..yes tali hamesha do haathon say bajti hay aik say nahi ..both are wrong so why are you defending tappu😆 ..you should curse both just because you love one thats why you are even justifying her previous acts ,,now don't say i am not doing because your post points clearly show you are defending her acts

Yes as long as Ichchha fans continue to blame Tapu for her mistakes and praise Ichchha for her mistakes and sheer stupidty 😃 😆 😆 spade for spade. 😆
this topic is also created by an ichcha fan and do some research here before posting imaginary blames on others ..i am senior to you here i know more than you you really need to do some research here and also then you will know how much ichcha has been cirticized and just for revenge thing which tappu has been criticized for her wrong acts only for that you will criticize ichcha Shockedand no one has praised ichcha for her stupidity at least all the ichcha fans whom i know probably you have seen some new ones 😕..but tappu fans how many of them critcized tappu for her wrong acts at least my expereince tells whenever someone says something to tappu same ichcha thing in reply like you have done 🥱

You know kikyo who says she is not an Ichchha fan you defend her very well 😆 😆
because i appreciate a person where one is right criticize where one is wrong ..even my worst enemy .or favoirte one .sorry not like you and others if fell in love wth someone he/she is mahaan ..😆and btw i didn't defend ichcha i cleary said she was wrong if you bother to read my post and understand it 😆but just said a few things to tapasya where she was wrong and wola you came up with list of ichcha sins 😆😆and btw i am firm on my appraoch calling both ichcha and tappu wrong where they are but you say you appreciate ichcha too where she is right but your posts tell something else just tappu love nothing else 😆😆for that servant's daughter why she was treated like that approach even you have adopted 😆
great going 😆😆

no offence sorry if you felt bad anywhere 😳
Edited by kikyo - 13 years ago
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Jia i really appreciate u 4 such patience in replying 2 such a biased,illogical & irrational post!!
and i agree that even icchha'd done mistakes but not sins or crimes which is the diff. i know ppl say that there r more shades than black & white but after seeing so many ppl in the real world that theres only these 2 shades its only that sum1 is whiter than oder & sum1 is blacker than oders. no grey ckts occur & if grey shade occurs then its only 4 sum time & not the basic colour of the prsnlity of human beings!!
and wats more is only intention behind the actions make them gud or bad!!bcoz the consequences of our actions r always so complicated, so diverse that u can't predict the future & even consequences.
but here ppl r trying sya taps is +ve & icchha is -ve & greatness is manipulation. wow !! yaar kya logic hai!! i think even the most -ve prsn like osama wud'd found it laughable bcoz all eveil & bad prsns know that they can't bcum gud so think abt degrading gud prsn by taunting them abt their mahanta etc. & in subconscious mind they feel sum satisfaction by doing this so as 2 no1 can reply them. bcoz they"ll not want 2 bang their head wid such prsn who doesn't want 2 see the truth which is glaring in front of them!!😆😆😆
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Originally posted by: tiny15

Jia i really appreciate u 4 such patience in replying 2 such a biased,illogical & irrational post!!

and i agree that even icchha'd done mistakes but not sins or crimes which is the diff. i know ppl say that there r more shades than black & white but after seeing so many ppl in the real world that theres only these 2 shades its only that sum1 is whiter than oder & sum1 is blacker than oders. no grey ckts occur & if grey shade occurs then its only 4 sum time & not the basic colour of the prsnlity of human beings!!
and wats more is only intention behind the actions make them gud or bad!!bcoz the consequences of our actions r always so complicated, so diverse that u can't predict the future & even consequences.
but here ppl r trying sya taps is +ve & icchha is -ve & greatness is manipulation. wow !! yaar kya logic hai!! i think even the most -ve prsn like osama wud'd found it laughable bcoz all eveil & bad prsns know that they can't bcum gud so think abt degrading gud prsn by taunting them abt their mahanta etc. & in subconscious mind they feel sum satisfaction by doing this so as 2 no1 can reply them. bcoz u"ll want 2 bang their head wid such prsn who doesn't want 2 see wats glaring in front of them!!😆😆😆

dolly i know it's useless to bang head here but i only replied because it was quoted to me ...well seriously find these things a lot funny just to support one character put blame on others ..jogi is culprit because why he tried to repent his mistake😆 out of ten things he brought for tapasya why he gave one to ichcha ...he asked tappu beta go marry veer with fraud ..he asked tappu beta go murder ichcha , he asked tappu to create rifts between vancha , he asked tappu to rob, he asked tappu to thop rathore's child on veer🤣..where he ignored tappu ..everything came for her first ..he was wrong in spoiling tappu with extra laad pyar ..even rathore said that even rashmi calls her character spoilt brat ..but here ignorance of parents preferring ichca over tappu logic is being given ..😆is tapasya a small baby ..she very well knows and confessed many times my papa loves me a lot , my mother loves me lot , ichcha loves me a lot including sid when she was planning ichcha's murder through sid ..now using someone's love for own selfish means is innocence 😕and all others are cuprits who have been played by her 😆..ichcha did wrong by supporting her ..infact it's she who spoiled tapasya the most by fulfilling her each wrong demand there she was wrong..i want to slap her for it 😡 but one thing i will say her intention had always been to help tappu but tappu to hurt ichcha to fulifill her desire to have everything for her😕 ..but on this forum ichcha is sinner more.. tappu did all that because circumstances .ichcha for lust ...😆remember in that episode when vansh committed suicide what tappu said i hate ichcha but i don't doubt her intentions but you...😕thats why once i said tappu knows what is right and what is wrong just to save herself from every situation she changes color like a girgit ..she was cursing veer due to you i lost my daughter ..but infront of rathore she is i lost my daughter due to my stupidity 😕😆veer is being cursed for her barbaadi tell me one good reason why he should have accepted her😆 and try to understand after what she has done to him ...be polite and nice to her 😆he rightly divorced her but when later to save vancha marriage he came to take her back that was golden oppotunity for tapasya to win veer but what she did humilate him to the core ..even nani asked her to act as a good wife infront of veer to win him but what she did ? ...later proved out to be responsible for vansh death ...once he trusted her she has changed in pregnancy thing was betrayed badly ...but he is wrong joru ka ghulam ..if he was joru ka ghulam why he didn't trusted ichcha with infertility thing .😆.but i think people wanted him to hug tapasya ..love her after knowing the truth 😆...he is wrong for throwing her out😆 but tapasaya is a sweeheart for lying and all criminal acts because she is small illetrate women 😆😆😆Tapasya could not forgive ichcha for her imaginary beliefs that ichcha is snatching everything from her but if veer didn't accept her after she took his love from him even his brother ..even for trying to create a tussle in his house ...he is wrong ..😆.what an approach ..😆damini is wrong for accepting jogi's favor after knowing he killed her husband but tappu is right of marrying her rapist because she had to compromise with the conditions 🤣nani poisoned tappu's mind she listened to her when she had mood ..on contrary tappu poisoned vansh's mind ...done tricks like changing thread in mandir to fuel the fire but vansh was wrong because he was mad while tappu should not be blamed ...😕really yar where to get such logic apart from in uttaran forum ...😆i feel sorry for all the villians of films and other serials ..they are played by good actors but i think the only reason is they are not beautiful most of times otherwise instead of being bashed people from long time they would have been appreciated 😆😆
Edited by kikyo - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: kikyo

no offence sorry if you felt bad anywhere 😳

Don't worry we do not take offence we simply discuss and share our point of views 😃
So what if things get heated up a bit. Guess we can handle it. 😉
Edited by rasyafan - 14 years ago
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@Rasyafan:

No offence, honey, but reading your last post cracked me up!!!! I was previously considering you to be more sensible compared to the other Tappu lovers.

Darling, tell me, can you read???? I think "Kikiyo" has atleast said more than a 10000 times in her last post that she DOES NOT APPROVE of the "mahaanta" done by Ichha...and yet all you could come up with in that entire last post of yours was "you support Ichha's mahanata" and "You all fail to see this fact".

You DID NOT answer her when she asked you :

1) In what ways was Ichha "preferred" over Tappu by Jogi?



2) Why was Tappu right in leaving Yuvraaj with Nani despite knowing Nani's hatred for him?



3) Why did Tapasya not listen to Nani during Veer-Kinjal's marriage, if she was so totally controlled by the latter?




You did NOT ANSWER any of these, instead all you said was, "you love Ichha blah blah blah".🤣


Thanks for such a self-defeating post. Proves every single thing that was said by Kikiyo. Have a nice day. 🤣




Edited by sayali_babes - 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sayali_babes

@Rasyafan:

No offence, honey, but reading your last post cracked me up!!!! I was previously considering you to be more sensible compared to the other Tappu lovers.

Darling, tell me, can you read???? I think "Kikiyo" has atleast said more than a 10000 times in her last post that she DOES NOT APPROVE of the "mahaanta" done by Ichha...and yet all you could come up with in that entire last post of yours was "you support Ichha's mahanata" and "You all fail to see this fact".

You DID NOT answer her when she asked you :

1) In what ways was Ichha "preferred" over Tappu by Jogi?



2) Why was Tappu right in leaving Yuvraaj with Nani despite knowing Nani's hatred for him?



3) Why did Tapasya not listen to Nani during Veer-Kinjal's marriage, if she was so totally controlled by the latter?




You did NOT ANSWER any of these, instead all you said was, "you love Ichha blah blah blah".🤣


Thanks for such a self-defeating post. Proves every single thing that was said by Kikiyo. Have a nice day. 🤣




well said & v.apt & 2 the point!!!👏👏👏👏👏but here its like banging ur head against a wall or stone. so no need 2 harm urself!!😆😆and the answers of these quesns u want they"ll never b replied properly & unbiasedly & they probly contain the same content & meaning!!!😆😆😆😆😆
and all veecha fans except 3-4 never supported her 4 her "mahanta acts" though i don't've any probs wid these acts as they r done wid the "gud intentions"!! and i prefer the actions done wid gud intentions though result may b not so much in favour rather than the prsn's actions wid maliced/evil intentions!!but still we critcize her bcoz in long run they create havoc in her life only!!
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@sayali_babes...Thank you so much for such an awesome reply..dear the thing is when someone don't have any reply he/she do come with such ridiculous comments which are completely going opposite of what the other person has said 😆

@rasyafan...indeed no words for you as you have already made yourself a joke here with such childish replies 😆...if you can write English then you can understand it too ...tell me what is the meaning of wrong ?, what is the meaning of i don't approve that ?..i criticize her for it ?., she should be slapped? , even why this😡 emoticon is used .?..if in your brilliant view it is defence then please do this type of defence for your dear tappu too.😆...and again and again you are writing the same stuff calling me an ichcha fan 😕..if i would have been an ichcha fan is she so bad , or tina dutta is so worse i will be ashamed to call her my favorite or am i scared of anyone ?...no not at all ..i don't like tina as an actress because i have my own demands of an actor which i don't see in her ..i don't like ichcha because of her stupidity, dumbness for which she not only runied her life but others too ...but as i have mentioned earlier which you didn't bother to read ...if you have read it would never have come with such a funny answer ..i support a character not on the basis of favoritism like you ..i support him /her on the basis on right works and i believe i have given example of my most favorite actor Johnny Depp's character sweeny todd whose death in film i am justifying because of his mistakes or i should say sins done blinded by revenge ...but you didn't bother to read it 😆i defend and support a character where he/ she is right...where people put wrong blames on them if these posts i ever come across i do correct them ...sorry cannot support lie just because i don't like a character ..i no where defended ichcha just corrected you where you were putting wrong blames on her while the actual thing is something else but if you read carefully i didn't support her actions as right .but probably you replied while sleeping 😆thats why you could not see what i was saying ?😆
The first joke cracked by you why i deleted my post from there was extremely funny ..😆😆 i didn't delete my post from the thread but preferred to delete it from that post why because it would all muddled up my answers your answers ...so very childish joke from you 😆
where i compared tappu with bin laden 😕i only gave that simley to your view of state of mind thing ...get the meaning of logic then you will understand how illogical your reply is?🥱and infact very double crossing ...it was you who was preaching about state of mind thing when i said by this then veer ichcha are also innocent why do you criticze them? and you came with a lame excuse that heroes are projected in good light can they never be wrong ?where did i say that heroes can never be wrong ..🥱and what a funny view is that heroes are projected in good light you want villians to be projected in good light ?😆and i which language should i write to make you understand that uttaran heroes nullifies the qualities of heroes and i have mentioned it in my post which you ignored ..🥱if you are talking about veer ichcha fans they support then i think this thread is enough proof for you it is being created by a veechafan 😆😆so extremely ridiculous answer from you 😆
where did i say no one should criticize ichcha ...😕and where did i defended ichcha 😕and tapasya is called a sinner because of her kartoots not because of ichcha and there are thousand posts created on ichcha do i reply on everyone? ..even where my worst enemy is objected wrong i will correct it ..sorry cannot just do blind jaaps of favorites ..i criticize for wrong acts and i criticize ichcha for her wrong acts and i think you know english quite well so tell me where i said her actions were right ?...😕but you are doing same jaap of ichcha ichcha you defend ichcha you like ichcha against my each reply why? because you have no reply 😆and even a third person who wasn't involved in our discussion easily understood what i am saying and how you are going opposite of my each reply 😆and by the way you like tappu for whatever reason do i stop you ?no ...why would i say if i don't like her you too don't like her 😕extremely pathetic view was that from you 🤢and you were talking about logic🤢 ...if you cannot stop loving and defending tapasya for someone why do you expect others not to cirticize her .?..😕all the crying stuff you are doing ichcha fans do this do that🥱 ..i just said a few things to your tappu and i havent even called iccha right and you .🥱.ichcha ichcha ichcha ..ichcha fans tapasya fans blah blah blah...please stop this double attitude rest whatever you love or hate tapuor defend her do i care ..where did i abuse tappu here 😲 stop posting imagniary things here 👎🏼if talking about ichcha fans then tappu fans are no less behind so i think this view of yours tappu has been critcized bashed and blah blah when ichcha herself is too..is alot .🥱and if i hate tappu is because of her wrong acts and it's absolute natural to hate a person for his wrong acts you tappu fans are indeed new wonders of the world who love a character even after her wrong acts and have a double approach for rest of the characters ..here i don't want to give a biased approach but you really need to do some research here that how much ichcha's own fans appreciate her mahannta😆 when i use to curse her big fans of ichcha like ichvee use to clap for me .😆
extremely funny view written by you is that tappu fans accept her mistakes🤣 ..o really then when i mentioned all her wrong acts why were you defending her?😉 that you don't see the reasons behind her ..blah blah 🥱..and you are the one who are calling my reasons invalid when you yourself is going opposite of your own views😆 ..to check the validity of your posts do visit uttaran story so far thread to get the truth of your posts ..and tell your valid reasons to rashmi desai too who has called many times tappu a spoilt brat nothing else as an actor she loves this character because it has sharpened her acting skills but as a person she hates her ...even to your hero rathore too who said to jogi jahan punish karna chahye tha whahan laad pyar day kar bigar diya ...and validity of your views is confimred by this too that i have said thousand time ichcha is wrong wrong and you are again and again coming up with same pathetic stuff of ichcha ichcha ichcha 🥱
where did i say jogi should kill tappu or whip her ...😕another ridiculous comment from you ..totally worth laughing😆😆😆..in which world you live ?..haven't you ever seen any parents slapping their children when they do wrong ...even getting angry on them ...the theories you have presented only looks good while saying ...when it comes to real life they cannot be applied all the time ..in reality many parents break ties with their children when they trash their honor in the way tapasya did hurted by this .. but you think what i have seen only this is the world...🥱parents need to be strict to their children to create a fear in them ...haven't you ever heard or ever it happened to you while doing something wrong if i did mom and dad will get angry on me or i 'll be puinshed ..tapasya's case is pretty simple she lacks this fear because whenever she was punished jogi manipulated by these three ladies ichcha , divya and damini and jogi's own love made him forgive her even without letting her ask forgiveness ...🥱 so how will she be cured ...🥱if you notice tappu's behavior when veer ichcha came home married at one point she was saying i married veer with fraud ..i was wrong in getting him but still i am his wife how can he do it ?..this is clear sign that she thinks like jogi with the passage of time forgive her every act ..similary ichcha madam.. she was expecting veer to be like that too...and i think you need to watch the serial again with open eyes you will see jogi many times talking to her politely too ..
how are you so sure all people do leave their babies to grandmothers or servants in parties or whatever ...do you think the world only revolves around what you have seen ?..get a life ..i have clearly said that it happens too but it also happens mothers leave everything else even their jobs when their babies are small parties are very small thing now whom do you think a great mother ..one who cannot feed her own baby just taking few minutes out of party .or .one who leave parties for their children needs ...but i know in blind love for tappu you will go with the first one ..what can be expected from you?🥱
Better read my post again and understand my posts questions and every sane person knows who is molding the truth..and questions ...you were not able to understand a single point of my post thats why coming up ridiculous replies ..what i have said what you are saying😕😆 ...your pathetic view tapasya listened to nani because she was only her support... i think if you read my question then you will get to know i have said why she only listened to her when things were what she wanted .why not into other aspects like yuvraj or veer kinjal marriage or even when veer came to see her ?...if she is so in control of her? ... is she is small under 18 illetrate woman who don't know difference between right and wrong ...and i think it is rathore who brought nani again to tapasya not nani came to her ...and it was she who went to invite Bundela's to their house why? if she is wanted life without them o she was forgetting the past forgetting the past means go feel sorry to ichcha for her baby loss ...which every sensible person while going to any such house will do and if her nature is changed why she was making faces seeing veecha at mall 😕
wow great logic of you about keeping ichcha and damini to separate house ..do you think tapasya wouldn't have felt jealousy if jogi had kept ichcha and damini into separate house and like feeding an animal throw money infront of them and when tappu will come to know about his papa raising another girl or even if he use to visit them her condition would have been the same by your sharing logic ...and you haven't yet answered my question where jogi preferred ichcha over tappu ? even real life siblings feel jealousy from each other but how many do same as tappu did ?huh and do let me which religion and law supports a wrong act done in instigation , jealousy or insecurity? so why so much sad when someone blames tappu for her own wrong acts 🥱
that chulo bahr pani mein doob marna quotation reply from you ..again ichcha where did i support her act or the touture on mukhta or kanha at Bzoo...reallly this is called molding the question 👎🏼...ofcourse ichcha ko bhi chulo bhar pani mein doob marna chahye but what about rathore and tappu who left the baby in reliable servant's hand for shopping love ( nani tappu conversation is pretty strong proof for extra shopping thing and you haven't been able to answer when i put it )another woman has come into their house and entering in their room is feeding the baby this is the care of the servant ...and tappu devi fired her why? when she was right in leaving her baby to safe hands huh huh can you reply that ?
and you need to go throughh the post again where did i say veer was right for not going to dna test ..where did i say ichcha was right for hiding truth from all that you are again coming with same ridiculous answers and you are really talking about valid reasons you know the meaning of what is valid ? with double approach you are calling your views valid at one point you are saying no body understood tapasya at the same point you are saying why veer trusted tappu knowing her nature ...and i think i have called his act of trusting tappu foolishness sorry if you found foolsihness was such a difficult word for you to understand 😆😆but this is indeed not a sin 😕
your approach is very much like we will see what we want to see if you think rasya the leads with all story revolving around them keep thinking...but any person who knows a to z of what a leading protagonist is knows who is lead of the show 😆
overall i will say extremely pathetic and illogical post from you .again and again you are defending ichcha you are defending logic ..i advise you go get a dictionary see what are the meanings of wrong and don't approve , even slap ..then you will know how i am defending ichcha which accordng to your childish views that make my views invalid or illogical to criticize tappu ..i think your whole post is a lot funny because you are continously saying the same stuff of you are defending ichcha blah blah when actually i have said thousand times in my post she is wrong ..but the thing one cannot defend tappu without this silly blame you are criticizing tappu because you love ichcha 🤪 just keep writing such ridiculous posts and keep making yourself a joke here ..totally pathetic and illogical post from you worth laughing 🤣and every person with little common sense knows who is imagining things here 😆
no offence i liked many of your posts but this time you were very much wrong 😆expecting another you love ichcha reply 🥱boring 🥱
yes the discussion between us has been a lot heated up but we can handle the situation 😉hopefully this small discussion over fictional characters won't create enemity between real us ...as i said before i liked many of your previous posts but you seem to be a lot confused here 😆anways sorry if you felt bad anywhere
Edited by kikyo - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiny15

well said & v.apt & 2 the point!!!👏👏👏👏👏but here its like banging ur head against a wall or stone. so no need 2 harm urself!!😆😆and the answers of these quesns u want they"ll never b replied properly & unbiasedly & they probly contain the same content & meaning!!!😆😆😆😆😆

and all veecha fans except 3-4 never supported her 4 her "mahanta acts" though i don't've any probs wid these acts as they r done wid the "gud intentions"!! and i prefer the actions done wid gud intentions though result may b not so much in favour rather than the prsn's actions wid maliced/evil intentions!!but still we critcize her bcoz in long run they create havoc in her life only!!

well i banged my head just couldn't stop myself from replying wasted my time 😆next time will avoid

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