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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: souroj

A lot of Cv bashing is going on for making Veer's character pathetic, but I think this is the first time Cvs are actually meting justice to Veer which was long overdue.( I have developed a sixth sense regarding this and let me explain)

Veer came to see Tapasya, she royally ignored him and after his marriage to Tapasya, Iccha royally ignored him but now both the girls are craving for his attention. Justice done to Veer

Let's take one relation at a time

Veer and Tapasya
1.Tapasya got married to Veer and he had to part ways wid Iccha. Finally after one year Veer married Iccha and Tapasya had to part ways wid Veer( now she is forcefully back is a different thing)
2.Tapasya took advantage of Veer's drunken state. Raghu took advantage of Tapasya's drunken state so indirectly once again justice meted to Veer

Now coming to the more complex relation
Veer and Iccha
1.Iccha decided to marry Vansh. In front of Veer, Vansh put the lal chunri on Iccha, Veer must have been hurt so Cvs on buri nazar wala puja day made Veer put the lal chunri on Tapasya in front of Iccha😡 and Iccha was hurt.
2.Iccha used to be lovey dovey wid Vansh in Veer's presence causing pain to Veer so now the Cv's are making Veer lovey dovey wid tapasya in Iccha's presence 😡.Hisab barabar. Now Iccha is going thru the phase which Veer went thru.
So cvs are actually doing a great job.All the sufferings which Veer had to go thru for these two mad friends are now being justified. Cvs I am proud of u keep up the good work😡


I disagree on certain points...
@ Bold... On both these occasions, Ichcha was true to her relationships...

In the first instance, she was marrying Vansh and so Vansh put that chunri on her, whereas Veer put that red odhni on Tapasya when she was not his wife and when Ichcha was his wife at that moment... It was not justified even if Tapasya was carrying his child to do that pooja with her when he had divorced her and married Ichcha.. If he had to do it then he should have married Tapasya again..

In the second instance, Ichcha was not lovey dovey with Vansh when she was married to Veer.. Vansh was her husband and she was true to him when she was married to him, whereas now, Veer is doing all his lovey dovey acts with Tapasya when he is married to Ichcha.

On both these occasions, not only Veer was hurt, but Ichcha also was hurt and went through a lot of mental turmoil, trying not to love Veer and to sincerely like Vansh... But Veer is now doing his affectionate acts with his ex-wife voluntarily, causing hurt to Ichcha..

Veer was not true to his relationships.. When married to Tapasya, he ignored her and when married to Ichcha, he performs pooja with Tapasya and does lovey dovey acts with her and when Tapasya is given the honour which ought to be given only to the Bundela bahu Ichcha, just stands mutely allowing that injustice to Ichcha happen... Not protesting when injustice is meted out is akin to siding with those who are meting out the injustice.. There are so many divorced couples who have children and child custody issues, but never heard of any guy going and fondling a hated ex-wife's tummy when the wedded wife is present... Nobody goes overboard like that for a still unseen baby...

You have written that Tapasya royally ignored him first, but now applying the same yardstick, we can say that she is getting justice according to some or one-upmanship according to the others, not only in the form of Veer's attention, but by the pampering she is getting from everybody in B house and Jogi house from where she was thrown out ignominiously earlier... She had put Veer on her revenge list for shouting at her to get out and now this Mai literally begged her doing aarathi to come to her house and Veer also begged her to stay.. What justice is there in that?.. All are bowing down to evil and Tapasya is getting her own way..

Ichcha has been dumb, but has been sincere in all her thoughts and actions through out... That is the reason Veer is being bashed or reprimanded, when his conduct is straying away from the correct path towards Tapasya... He is not being loyal in his thought or deeds to Ichcha when he tends to lean towards Tapasya..

Ichcha vowed to Tapasya that she would not let Tapasya play in her and Vansh's married life and would make that marriage work as she had promised to Jogi, but she could not save it and only Taps won... Then she challenged that she would not let Taps sit in pooja with Veer, but then had to go and beg Veer to sit with her... She said she wanted to put colour on Veer first, and they showed Veer and Taps putting colour on each other first..

So the only one who is yet to get justice is Ichcha.. All the others ought to be taught a harsh lesson for their unjust acts till date..
Edited by hermoinee - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I disagree on certain points...
@ Bold... On both these occasions, Ichcha was true to her relationships...

In the first instance, she was marrying Vansh and so Vansh put that chunri on her, whereas Veer put that red odhni on Tapasya when she was not his wife and when Ichcha was his wife at that moment... It was not justified even if Tapasya was carrying his child to do that pooja with her when he had divorced her and married Ichcha.. If he had to do it then he should have married Tapasya again..

In the second instance, Ichcha was not lovey dovey with Vansh when she was married to Veer.. Vansh was her husband and she was true to him when she was married to him, whereas now, Veer is doing all his lovey dovey acts with Tapasya when he is married to Ichcha.

On both these occasions, not only Veer was hurt, but Ichcha also was hurt and went through a lot of mental turmoil, trying not to love Veer and to sincerely like Vansh... But Veer is now doing his affectionate acts with his ex-wife voluntarily, causing hurt to Ichcha..

Veer was not true to his relationships.. When married to Tapasya, he ignored her and when married to Ichcha, he performs pooja with Tapasya and does lovey dovey acts with her and when Tapasya is given the honour which ought to be given only to the Bundela bahu Ichcha, just stands mutely allowing that injustice to Ichcha happen... Not protesting when injustice is meted out is akin to siding with those who are meting out the injustice.. There are so many divorced couples who have children and child custody issues, but never heard of any guy going and fondling a hated ex-wife's tummy when the wedded wife is present... Nobody goes overboard like that for a still unseen baby...

You have written that Tapasya royally ignored him first, but now applying the same yardstick, we can say that she is getting justice according to some or one-upmanship according to the others, not only in the form of Veer's attention, but by the pampering she is getting from everybody in B house and Jogi house from where she was thrown out ignominiously earlier... She had put Veer on her revenge list for shouting at her to get out and now this Mai literally begged her doing aarathi to come to her house and Veer also begged her to stay.. What justice is there in that?.. All are bowing down to evil and Tapasya is getting her own way..

Ichcha has been dumb, but has been sincere in all her thoughts and actions through out... That is the reason Veer is being bashed or reprimanded, when his conduct is straying away from the correct path towards Tapasya... He is not being loyal in his thought or deeds to Ichcha when he tends to lean towards Tapasya..

Ichcha vowed to Tapasya that she would not let Tapasya play in her and Vansh's married life and would make that marriage work as she had promised to Jogi, but she could not save it and only Taps won... Then she challenged that she would not let Taps sit in pooja with Veer, but then had to go and beg Veer to sit with her... She said she wanted to put colour on Veer first, and they showed Veer and Taps putting colour on each other first..

So the only one who is yet to get justice is Ichcha.. All the others ought to be taught a harsh lesson for their unjust acts till date..

Hermionee I have written this post in a sarcastic way. I think u can understand by the smileys I have put. I was just trying to find justification why the cvs have suddenly made Veer's character so pathetic, trying to get some positivity from this deceitful, full of nautanki pregnancy track.
I know that time Iccha was supposed to get married to Vansh.I have just written in the context of Veer Iccha's relationship. None of us can deny whatever be the reason Iccha did hurt Veer by getting him married to Tapasya and later herself marrying Vansh but now what Veer is doing is unpardonable, even I have bashed him😆😆. Hope we get back the old Veer soon though that charm is long lost.
Regarding Tapasya, what's new in it. She was, is and will always be pampered. Now even Satya won't harm her. With this Sanchi track coming up it will again be suffering for Iccha.
Edited by souroj - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree that Ichcha has hurt Veer many times but she has never crossed her boundaries even when she was married to Vansh. Veer is crossing his boundaries being married to Ichcha. I understand that Veer is getting attached to the unborn baby but what I dont understand is how can he be so loving to Tapasya after all what she has done? Where is the hatred now? Thats why I am angry at Veer. Ichcha has FINALLY come out of Tappu love..and now whatever it is Ichcha will not give in to Tapasya any more. It was this Tappu love that always drove her to hurt Veer although her intentions were good. I still feel ichcha should tell the truth to Veer but CVs want to drag it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree with your POV somewhat but I must add that the character of Veer has been portrayed by CVS in a such a way till now that no matter what Ichcha or anybody else does he has always loved Ichcha (unlike that character of Ichcha) and it was quite a selfless love expecting nothing in return but that Veer is somehow missing now a days 🤔
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Posted: 14 years ago
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🥱🤡Veer has become pathetic and is decomposing fast😳
Edited by ladybird9 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hermionee I have written this post in a sarcastic way. I think u can understand by the smileys I have put. I was just trying to find justification why the cvs have suddenly made Veer's character so pathetic, trying to get some positivity from this deceitful, full of nautanki pregnancy track.
I know that time Iccha was supposed to get married to Vansh.I have just written in the context of Veer Iccha's relationship. None of us can deny whatever be the reason Iccha did hurt Veer by getting him married to Tapasya and later herself marrying Vansh but now what Veer is doing is unpardonable, even I have bashed him😆😆. Hope we get back the old Veer soon though that charm is long lost.
Regarding Tapasya, what's new in it. She was, is and will always be pampered. Now even Satya won't harm her. With this Sanchi track coming up it will again be suffering for Iccha.


I could understand very well that you have written it in a sarcastic way, but seeing the responses here, I feel the meaning of your post has been lost on most people... They feel that Veer has been unnecessarily bashed by some people and it is not justified, and Ichcha is justly being paid back for all that she did to him....

I agree that Ichcha has hurt Veer by sending Taps to marry him and when it did not work, marrying Vansh to keep him away as well as to stop Vansh from committing suicide.. For all that she has paid back by seeing Veer with Taps and by going through more torture when married to Vansh, than what Veer went through when married to Taps.. She was devastated by Veer's marriage to Taps and Vansh's death.. She was cornered into doing these things because of Tappu's and Vansh's suicide threats. There itself both have got punished enough, with Ichcha getting more punished, but it is justified because she was the root cause for it..

But what is happening now is more trauma and punishment for Ichcha by the Btoons, which she can handle, but not when joined by Veer also, due to his unnecessary over-attention to Taps... Her only support there is Veer and she is not sure of him now.. Now after getting married to Veer, her cup of woes is not over because of the false pregnancy claims by Taps... Veer is getting the 'sukh' of being a father, even though mistakenly, whereas, Ichcha is getting nothing but insecurity because now she knows that Taps has come only to snatch Veer again and is making him sit in pooja with her (albeit through emotional blackmail by Taps to Mai leading to the emotional blackmail from mai to Ichcha leading to the same by Ichcha to Veer).. and she is getting more hurt by this stupid obscene fondling of the tummy by Veer, feeding of Taps as though she is a kid and the latest, holi colour episode...

That is why I had to write that lengthy post in reply to you... You have written the possible justification that could be given by the unimaginative and evil-supporting CVs to whatever Veer is doing of late, but it is unpardonable in terms of what is right and what is wrong... Veer has no business to get cozy with Tapasya even if she were carrying his child and it definitely is a blemish on his clean character portrayed earlier and it shows a streak of disloyalty towards Ichcha, of which Ichcha cannot ever be accused, and so she deserves a better guy than Veer in my opinion..
Edited by hermoinee - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: hermoinee



I could understand very well that you have written it in a sarcastic way, but seeing the responses here, I feel the meaning of your post has been lost on most people... They feel that Veer has been unnecessarily bashed by some people and it is not justified, and Ichcha is justly being paid back for all that she did to him....

I agree that Ichcha has hurt Veer by sending Taps to marry him and when it did not work, marrying Vansh to keep him away as well as to stop Vansh from committing suicide.. For all that she has paid back by seeing Veer with Taps and by going through more torture when married to Vansh, than what Veer went through when married to Taps.. She was devastated by Veer's marriage to Taps and Vansh's death.. She was cornered into doing these things because of Tappu's and Vansh's suicide threats. There itself both have got punished enough, with Ichcha getting more punished, but it is justified because she was the root cause for it..

But what is happening now is more trauma and punishment for Ichcha by the Btoons, which she can handle, but not when joined by Veer also, due to his unnecessary over-attention to Taps... Her only support there is Veer and she is not sure of him now.. Now after getting married to Veer, her cup of woes is not over because of the false pregnancy claims by Taps... Veer is getting the 'sukh' of being a father, even though mistakenly, whereas, Ichcha is not getting nothing but insecurity because now she knows that Taps has come only to snatch Veer again and is making him sit in pooja with her (albeit through emotional blackmail by Taps to Mai leading to the emotional blackmail from mai to Ichcha leading to the same by Ichcha to Veer).. and she is getting more hurt by this stupid obscene fondling of the tummy by Veer, feeding of Taps as though she is a kid and the latest, holi colour episode...

That is why I had to write that lengthy post in reply to you... You have written the possible justification that could be given by the unimaginative and evil-supporting CVs to whatever Veer is doing of late, but it is unpardonable in terms of what is right and what is wrong... Veer has no business to get cozy with Tapasya even if she were carrying his child and it definitely is a blemish on his clean character portrayed earlier and it shows a streak of disloyalty towards Ichcha, of which Ichcha cannot ever be accused, and so she deserves a better guy than Veer in my opinion..

I agree with every word written by u in both ur posts Chitra👏👏👏👏👏 Thanks for these deatiled analysis exposing the fraud of Veer⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Edited by ladybird9 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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well @ hermoinee you have indeed written a very long post..and i agree with you on an many points..😃but you see i think you have misunderstood some people's logic here..you see nobody is saying veer is being unncessarily bashed...i was one of the few of his supporters on this forum😆 and now i want to kill him😡😡😡 but you see i have one problem with his bashing going around here when people say he is not worthy of ichcha..😕 even you have said it ichcha deserves a better man than him😕 and i am like what, why😕..it would be in that case if ichcha herself has not done any mistakes😕..many of us accept that veer suffered a lot because of ichcha..right..now this is the first time ichcha is suffering or has any problem because of veer..😕 am i right?..her sufferings from vansh were not because of veer and neither she became widow because of veer ..he warned her but she didnt listen..her mother warned her before she didnt listen infact left her😡 and by the way vansh didnt leave veer either..he equally cursed him... and was planning to kill both of them ..and even now if we blame ichcha its only because she let things go out of her hands..😕by bringing tapasya in the B house , giving veer bhashans on his child (puja) and of course veer was wrong in agreeing with her he should have strictly said no but we all know he is an emotional fool..🥱 one emotional atyachar and veer babu yes mam🥱and now she is realizing sitting on stairs i made a mistake by bringing tapasya to my home😕 whatever i do tapasya will never respect my feelings😕 .hello what were you thinking😕 didnt you realize this when tapasya changed that letter 😕 and later made vansh to commit suicide..😕this shows her loyality to vansh.😡.she never once said a single word to tapasya in reference to vansh's death..did she ?? or i missed something??😕 on the other hand when she had doubt on veer she was shouting on her full volume.😕ok at that time while bringing tapasya home she thought tapasya turned positive much similar the way now veer is saying tapasya has understood the fact😕. and so on.
all in all i want to say veer totally deserves ichcha😊...whatever he is doing now is not right . by getting cozy with tapasya😡 but ..there is still one justification he is unaware of the truth of the child ..if he knew the truth he would never go near tapasya.and who is hiding the truth ichcha🥱 ok she doesnt want to break his heart but wont it be more heartbreaking later...havent she yet realized by hiding things she had sufferd a lot and also made others suffer a lot 😕.one person commited suicide but but but 🥱..we cannot say veer is the reason of all her sufferings😕
and one more thing to be cleared those who are saying tit for tit ichcha ..including me we are not referring to ichcha's relationship to vansh and veer's suffering 😕 no ..we are talking in this context ichcha atfirst used to push veer closer to tapasya..show attitude infront of him.. ignore him for tapasya..now veer himself is getting lovey dovey with taps😡 and ichcha is not liking it ok at time veer was not her husband but come on .yar she loved him how could she be so unfair with him😕...
its not like i am justifying veer ... i am only saying if he is wrong this time it wont make him unworthy for ichcha ..because she herself has been wrong many.times in much similar way ...thats all😊 oops😛 i myself has written a long post😆😆
Edited by jdfan - 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: jdfan

well @ hermoinee you have indeed written a very long post..and i agree with you on an many points..😃but you see i think you have misunderstood some people's logic here..you see nobody is saying veer is being unncessarily bashed...i was one of few of his supporters on this forum😆 and now i want to kill him😡😡😡 but you see i have one problem with his bashing going around here when people say he is not worthy of ichcha..😕 even you have said it ichcha deserves a better man than him😕 and i am like what, why😕

i agree wid u thta no1 is saying veer is bashed unneccessarily & though i liked veer more but i never even suspected icchha's motives or intentions!! and i think no1 wants icchha & veer 2 b separated but in recent epis it seems veer has lost his brains sumwhere!!so ppl in their frustration superficially thinks veer as unworthy of icchha!!
..it would be in that case if ichcha herself has not done any mistakes😕..many of us accept that veer suffered a lot because of ichcha..right..now this is first time ichcha is suffering or has any problem because of veer..😕 am i right?..
i agree that icchha did more mistakes than veer but her ckt & nature were/r like that only.though veer did suffer bcoz of icchha but only during veer-tappy marriage wen she widout asking him & considering his feelings he let him married 2 that dracula!!😡 though shes suffering bcoz of veer 4 the 1st time but her sufferings r not less than veer's past suffering!!
her sufferings from vansh were not because of veer and neither she became widow because of veer ..he warned her but she didnt listen..her mother warned her before she didnt listen infact left her😡
i agree she didn't suffer bcoz of veer & she shud'd listened 2 veer abt treatment but imagine wen veer like prsn who'd seen his bro's addiction didn't think abt sending vansh back 2 rehab centre unless doc told him 2 do so. then how cud icchha've thought abt it wen she was told by veer that 2 wen vansh was pretending 2 b not moody 2 her??😕😕
and by the way vansh didnt leave veer either..he equally cursed him... was planning to kill both of them ..
though vansh didn't leave him 2 but he was doing this bcoz of tappy's provocation & bcoz he was mentally weak due 2 drug addiction he suspected even his bro but he admitted his insecurities wid veer & veer shud've understood it at that time itself bcoz he knew abt the drug addiction of avnsh more than icchha!!
and even now if we blame ichcha its only because she let things go out of her hands..😕by bringing tapasya in the house , giving veer bhashans on child (puja) and ofcourse veer was wrong in agreeing with her he should have strictly said no but we all know he is an emotional fool..🥱
though icchha is responsible 4 bringing tappy 2 home but she didn't know that tappy was faking pregnancy earlier & now pretending sum1 else child 2 b veer's. and she was right abt concern 4 child & i don't even blame 4 veer 4 getting blackmailed emotionally but she didn't tell him 2 touch dracula's tummy wen she did that "ouch" drama.and veer'd earlier told icchha that he didn't trust taps then wat happened now!! he seems 2 b totally out of focus after he went wid tappy 4 taht sonography!!🥱🥱🥱
one emotional atyachar and veer babu yes mam🥱and now she is realizing sitting on stairs i made a mistake by bringing tapasya to my home😕 whatever i do tapasya will never respect my feelings😕 .hello what were you thinking😕 didnt you realize that after tapasya changed that letter 😕 and later made vansh to commit suicide..😕this shows her loyality to vansh.😡.she never once said a single word to tapasya in reference to vansh's death..did she ?? or i missed something??😕 on the other hand when she had doubt on veer she was shouting on her full volume.😕
ok i agree wid u on this fully & at that time her behaviour was really not 2 appreciated. till she married veer her loyality 2wards dracula & jogi was more than 4 any1else whether vansh or veer or her mom. though she might not've suspected taps 4 vansh's suicide but she blamed veer on circumstancial evidences like vansh's pointed finger 2wards veer though i still don't approve of icchha's blaming on veer!!
ok at that time while bringing tapasya home she thought tapasya turned positive much similar the way now veer says tapasya has understood the fact😕. and so on.
all in all i want to say veer totally deserve ichcha😊...
i'd said this in above lines but 1 thing is how veer get changed after he went 4 sonography wid dracula & her naani?? this is really baffling!!😲😲
whatever he is doing there is still one justification he is unaware of the truth..if he knew the truth he would never go near tapasya..
yeah theres still justification but it doesn't go wid veer's ckt of recognising frauds atleast of dracula's. i m niot saying he can't b fooled but he know taps more than any1else even than icchha or jogi!!then how he gets irritated wen icchha interrupted him while feeding 2 taps?? why didn't he get suspicious of this & didn't find anything wronf wen icchha called him in the ofc abt reports??😲😕😕😕
and one more thing to be cleared those who are saying tit for tit ichcha..including me we were not referring to ichcha's relationship to vansh no ..we were talking in this context ichcha atfirst used
to push veer closer to tapasya..show attitude infront of him.. ignore him for tapasya..now veer himself is getting lovey dovey with taps😡 and ichcha is not liking it ..its not like i am justifying i am only saying if he is wrong this time it wont make him unworthy for ichcha ..because she herself has been wrong many.times in much similar way ...thats all😊 oops i myself have written a very long post😆😆
icchha did try 2 push him 2wards taps earlier but she didn't show him attitude bcoz of sum superiority complex like dracula but she was thinking abt saving taps marriage & though that dracula might b in luv wid veer. she came 2 know abt her obession wen taps changed her letter 2 vansh. but yeah i agree hes not unworthy of icchha. 😊and i think her 2 major mistakes r invovement in taps & veer's fraud marriage & believing taps blindly till now but not trusting veer at vansh's death!!!😡

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@tiny 15 i agree with you.😃..i have said i am not justifying veer .i always liked veer's character more than ichcha.. and now extremely disappointed with him infact angry at him😡 because i never expected this from him but when people say he is not worthy of ichcha ..i am like what ?😲 and try to justify that they both are very much alike🥱 in many aspects 🥱so 😕 both have done mistakes although ichcha's mistakes are still more than veer so😕 and i never said ichcha asked him to touch tapasya's tummy 😡 but i am saying somehow ichcha too created this child's love in his heart or not ? i mean her stupid dialogues veer you dont feel tapasya's pain..at shop when he was looking at the toys who brought the topic of tapasya's child ..i have said veer is an emotional fool.. ichcha too is 🥱 if i am not wrong she send him to sonography with taps when he refused i wont go without ichcha..when he refused i wont sit in puja with tapasya ok mai asked her he refused so why emotional atyachar mai asked you say i tried veer is not agreeing but no you see when we do character analysis we go through all aspects if we are gonig to find out the reason for veer 's sudden downfall..his sudden affection to tapasya of course he himself will be blamed too but ichcha too played role in that or not?
and i know people are only saying this in frustration but just sharing my pov because i cannot stop myself 😆😆😆i am glad someone got my point😃 that veecha are perfectly made for each other 😊
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