Do u want any more sukor in serial?? - Page 4

@Meshmesh, I haven't quoted you to make a point that you are wrong, I did it so I can give a coherent explanation for why the "other side" condemns Suraj's behavior.

Now, you also must understand that I don't have the time to describe each and every detail of the scenes I give as an example.

I surely know very well that Chakor stopped Suraj from beating Vivaan. But before that, the rage and the passion put in his fight, it's nothing compared to what we have seen the TV segments when it comes to defending Imli or nothing compared to his angriness when he beat Vivaan for sending him and his father to jail. It's not only me others have seen it too.

Not defending Chakor when Imli slapped and pushed her was a huge mistake. How would you feel if your husband's ex, who is such a characterless girl that slept with him in a drunken state, comes and slaps you, his legally wedded wife and a decent girl? And the husband is right there and does nothing! I personally can't imagine a much bigger humiliation than this. Huge mistakes from the part of CV for letting Imli behave like this without Suraj saying something.

As I said, I don't have time to describe every scene and if we have to go into every little detail to defend the hero of the story then the CV has definitely done something wrong.

Trust me, I have no interest, time or energy to defame a character, Suraj or any other. I want to see a good story, that's all. And when I see a story with potential ruined like this, I get frustrated and I need to write down its weak points.

Of course the story is a mess, the overall quality of the show is low. About the fact that Chakor is leaving Suraj and he is delusional about her reasons, you're right! Even VJ said something similar in an interview. I feel that he himself can't connect with his character anymore. How could he? Who does as Suraj? Will VJ leave his wife to go and protect a pregnant friend? Would he? God forbid! If VJ can't connect with Suraj, then how can the audience?

I honestly don't understand VJ's hard core fans. Why they are always so defensive! It's not like by defending Suraj at any cost it's going to change the reality! The reality remains the same: the story is messed and Suraj is a mess, being his actions, dialogues or hairstyle. He is starting to be overshadowed by Vivaan when it comes to screen presence and this is not good at all. Even Imli appears in a better light than him. If I was a VJ fan, I would be worried about why these things are happening rather than fighting other fans on the forum. It is not like other people don't want the best for VJ as an actor while performing the role of Suraj. I actually very much affected to see Imli more concerned for Chakor than Suraj when it should be the other way. Everyone has better dialogues than Suraj.

P.S. The last paragraph has nothing to do with you, Meshmesh, it is just a general observation regarding other remarks on the forum about "the other side"

Originally posted by: Etna_Dia

@Meshmesh, I haven't quoted you to make a point that you are wrong, I did it so I can give a coherent explanation for why the "other side" condemns Suraj's behavior.

Now, you also must understand that I don't have the time to describe each and every detail of the scenes I give as an example.

I surely know very well that Chakor stopped Suraj from beating Vivaan. But before that, the rage and the passion put in his fight, it's nothing compared to what we have seen the TV segments when it comes to defending Imli or nothing compared to his angriness when he beat Vivaan for sending him and his father to jail. It's not only me others have seen it too.

Not defending Chakor when Imli slapped and pushed her was a huge mistake. How would you feel if your husband's ex, who is such a characterless girl that slept with him in a drunken state, comes and slaps you, his legally wedded wife and a decent girl? And the husband is right there and does nothing! I personally can't imagine a much bigger humiliation than this. Huge mistakes from the part of CV for letting Imli behave like this without Suraj saying something.

As I said, I don't have time to describe every scene and if we have to go into every little detail to defend the hero of the story then the CV has definitely done something wrong.

Trust me, I have no interest, time or energy to defame a character, Suraj or any other. I want to see a good story, that's all. And when I see a story with potential ruined like this, I get frustrated and I need to write down its weak points.

Of course the story is a mess, the overall quality of the show is low. About the fact that Chakor is leaving Suraj and he is delusional about her reasons, you're right! Even VJ said something similar in an interview. I feel that he himself can't connect with his character anymore. How could he? Who does as Suraj? Will VJ leave his wife to go and protect a pregnant friend? Would he? God forbid! If VJ can't connect with Suraj, then how can the audience?

I honestly don't understand VJ's hard core fans. Why they are always so defensive! It's not like by defending Suraj at any cost it's going to change the reality! The reality remains the same: the story is messed and Suraj is a mess, being his actions, dialogues or hairstyle. He is starting to be overshadowed by Vivaan when it comes to screen presence and this is not good at all. Even Imli appears in a better light than him. If I was a VJ fan, I would be worried about why these things are happening rather than fighting other fans on the forum. It is not like other people don't want the best for VJ as an actor while performing the role of Suraj. I actually very much affected to see Imli more concerned for Chakor than Suraj when it should be the other way. Everyone has better dialogues than Suraj.

P.S. The last paragraph has nothing to do with you, Meshmesh, it is just a general observation regarding other remarks on the forum about "the other side"

Claudia - wow! Seriously - this is extremely well explained.

Originally posted by: Etna_Dia

@Meshmesh, I haven't quoted you to make a point that you are wrong, I did it so I can give a coherent explanation for why the "other side" condemns Suraj's behavior.

Now, you also must understand that I don't have the time to describe each and every detail of the scenes I give as an example.

I surely know very well that Chakor stopped Suraj from beating Vivaan. But before that, the rage and the passion put in his fight, it's nothing compared to what we have seen the TV segments when it comes to defending Imli or nothing compared to his angriness when he beat Vivaan for sending him and his father to jail. It's not only me others have seen it too.

Not defending Chakor when Imli slapped and pushed her was a huge mistake. How would you feel if your husband's ex, who is such a characterless girl that slept with him in a drunken state, comes and slaps you, his legally wedded wife and a decent girl? And the husband is right there and does nothing! I personally can't imagine a much bigger humiliation than this. Huge mistakes from the part of CV for letting Imli behave like this without Suraj saying something.

As I said, I don't have time to describe every scene and if we have to go into every little detail to defend the hero of the story then the CV has definitely done something wrong.

Trust me, I have no interest, time or energy to defame a character, Suraj or any other. I want to see a good story, that's all. And when I see a story with potential ruined like this, I get frustrated and I need to write down its weak points.

Of course the story is a mess, the overall quality of the show is low. About the fact that Chakor is leaving Suraj and he is delusional about her reasons, you're right! Even VJ said something similar in an interview. I feel that he himself can't connect with his character anymore. How could he? Who does as Suraj? Will VJ leave his wife to go and protect a pregnant friend? Would he? God forbid! If VJ can't connect with Suraj, then how can the audience?

I honestly don't understand VJ's hard core fans. Why they are always so defensive! It's not like by defending Suraj at any cost it's going to change the reality! The reality remains the same: the story is messed and Suraj is a mess, being his actions, dialogues or hairstyle. He is starting to be overshadowed by Vivaan when it comes to screen presence and this is not good at all. Even Imli appears in a better light than him. If I was a VJ fan, I would be worried about why these things are happening rather than fighting other fans on the forum. It is not like other people don't want the best for VJ as an actor while performing the role of Suraj. I actually very much affected to see Imli more concerned for Chakor than Suraj when it should be the other way. Everyone has better dialogues than Suraj.

P.S. The last paragraph has nothing to do with you, Meshmesh, it is just a general observation regarding other remarks on the forum about "the other side"

Originally posted by: starsoul

this is my understanding .

when writers find loopholes in the story and they want to stich it or they want to create illogical situations , they have 4 options .

1) Its is chakor's udaan n chakor's character is well defined , that her behavior is very much predicted .

so writers cannot use chakor for above purpose .

2)imli and vivan play , some time + ve or some time - ve or some time behavior of in between transition period . Their acting skill is average .their fan following is less.

so again they cannot use both of them for above mentioned purpose .

3) the only left character is suraj . who has become hero in the serial even though it was chakor's story .. suraj was anti hero at initial phase , he is still going through transition . his character has become + ve now .

vj is handsome . vj's acting skill is gr8 .vj's fan following is more than chakor , imli vivan .viewers not only like him but support him ,

so writers are using suraj as scapegoat to seal any loophole gap or illogical situation .

they know viewers will support their hero VJ aka suraj .so may be sometime his behaviour sound weird to us because writers give him illogical weird behavior .

in most "videos on location shooting" , I have noticed , actors are following director's command . ( eg move left , face down , ). So whatever they emote on screen must be director's take .

editors also edit and choose only those angles or scenes which they want to show to people . thats why olv videos and real episode might be different .