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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Alina...

^ i disagree about suraj's terrible childhood. he wasnt neglected and carved for love. teju is a good mother atleast then. she cared for suraj and send him to study so that he can reach a good position. but he was a bully and found pleasure in torturing bandua kids. KN did give value to him unlike the pre arrest days. and above all his dadi tried her best to bring suraj in right path. but he didnt. she tried to correct him, guide him. but he prefered to make an army with bandua kids and rule them with gun. if anything to be blamed its kn's blood running through his veins. nothing else. we never can compare vivaans past to surajs past. its poles apart and it cant justify suraj even for 1%. and i dont know how to look at the inconsistancy of surajs character. whatever they are showing during villian phase is beyond redemptn. anyways lets see what cvs show.

I stand corrected. I did not watch Udaan before the leap - I based my opinion on post leap - which is different then based on what you are saying. Post leap - even though Tejas loves Suraj - she is a terrible mom - never teaches him right from wrong and KN was well probably the most selfish dad one can get. Was Suraj really a bad kid - or was he one who did not know how to socially interact?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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kuch bhi hai.. Suraj rahy ga tu villan hi jisi maa jisa baap wesa beta .. Tu vivaan ko tu suraj k sth compare hi mt hi kare..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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^ suraj was always shown as a mini kn from childhood. the 1 and half year long pre leap showed suraj as a child born with criminal/bully mind. and tejeswini is nothing like the post leap. pre leap she was one of the strongest character in udaan. she was the one who made chakor a bandua. but same time she wished suraj to have a normal life and send him to study. but he dropped himself out. his inherent character is like that..otherwise his dadi would hav been sucessful in changing him. she tried her best. she is the one who give tje moral base to vivaan. and she tried to change suraj too. but suraj brushed her off
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Suraj is not attracted to Chakor nor indifferent to Imli. We shouldn't forget that Imli has been working for Suraj for the past 10 years and he always has been fond of her. He may not be in love with her but he is attracted to her and liked her. There have been so many instances where he showed the same. During the marathon race when KN told Chakor he would free Imli, Suraj was not happy with that and KN saw that in his expressions. Then Suraj was celebrating Imli's birthday inspite of telling her he won't touch her and will never love her. Who will celebrate a bandua's or servant's birthday and be drunk with them and then get attracted to them and have an affair? When he got to know about her pregnancy, he started becoming more soft and gifted her toe rings that made him realize she was his bride. He never did that before and used to give her chocolates.

Regarding Vivaan's trust issues, majority of the male leads have the same issue but still viewers feel they are made for each other and deserve each other. Same goes for Vivaan who was married to her sister and his love doesn't want to leave Suraj. He still told Chakor that if she asks him to wait for her, he would stop. I am angry with him for being a fool to even accept Imli's child while Suraj is still alive and Chakor planned this to make him accept the baby. He did not want Imli to do anything she didn't want to do but I don't feel pity on Imli. She stuck up to Suraj despite of him humiliating and being cruel to her.


I hate Imli's character to reject Chagan before who loved her so much and still accept Suraj who is so evil towards her.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanju15k

well , i dont think vivaan is fool to accept the child .
He is neither under the pressure of chakor nor he want to cover suraj's mistake(if it really is) ...he just concerned for imli as he may realised that its hard for imli as a mother to abort the child . He is like adopting the child . And we know that ki palne vala , jeewan dene vale se bada hota h . Dont know about you and other but i am very proud of vivaan and have respect for him.
Agar , vo bacha suraj ka nikla to ...me sow (100) galiyan deke jaunga yahan se


See here there are few things that make me feel Vivaan was doing WRONG:

1. LOVE (He doesn't love Imli)
2. MARRIAGE (He did not know he was marrying the wrong person)
3. HELPLESSNESS (He wanted her to take care of the child but Chakor sent him the abortion message that made him feel sad for Imli and the child and accept it. He was helpless when he told Chakor that your plan worked and he was crying.)

I would love if Chagan was the person to accept Imli and the baby as Chagan loves Imli while here Vivaan was almost forced and emotionally blackmailed to accept the baby while the father is in front of him and married to his love.

I have only felt sorry for Vivaan in this whole show and hence the frustration. Now next CVs will show Aditya also sacrificing himself that I would hate even more. Already I hate CVs for killing an innocent soul Ishwar 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ipkrr

I stand corrected. I did not watch Udaan before the leap - I based my opinion on post leap - which is different then based on what you are saying. Post leap - even though Tejas loves Suraj - she is a terrible mom - never teaches him right from wrong and KN was well probably the most selfish dad one can get. Was Suraj really a bad kid - or was he one who did not know how to socially interact?


Suraj was never a deprived child 😆

He got everything he wanted as a child including parent's love. KN and Teju's ladlaa he was and KN made him his successor till the time after lead when Vivaan took over.Suraj was a bad and selfish kid from beginning and was the worst among his friends as he was the leader 😆



In fact Vivaan's case is quite different where his parents kept quarrelling before him since he was 6 years old and he mostly lived with his mom along with his grandpa as his mother hated his dad. He never had a family experience and then came in Chakor who was his only happiness.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: roni_berna

Suraj is not attracted to Chakor nor indifferent to Imli. We shouldn't forget that Imli has been working for Suraj for the past 10 years and he always has been fond of her. He may not be in love with her but he is attracted to her and liked her. There have been so many instances where he showed the same. During the marathon race when KN told Chakor he would free Imli, Suraj was not happy with that and KN saw that in his expressions. Then Suraj was celebrating Imli's birthday inspite of telling her he won't touch her and will never love her. Who will celebrate a bandua's or servant's birthday and be drunk with them and then get attracted to them and have an affair? When he got to know about her pregnancy, he started becoming more soft and gifted her toe rings that made him realize she was his bride. He never did that before and used to give her chocolates.

Regarding Vivaan's trust issues, majority of the male leads have the same issue but still viewers feel they are made for each other and deserve each other. Same goes for Vivaan who was married to her sister and his love doesn't want to leave Suraj. He still told Chakor that if she asks him to wait for her, he would stop. I am angry with him for being a fool to even accept Imli's child while Suraj is still alive and Chakor planned this to make him accept the baby. He did not want Imli to do anything she didn't want to do but I don't feel pity on Imli. She stuck up to Suraj despite of him humiliating and being cruel to her.


I hate Imli's character to reject Chagan before who loved her so much and still accept Suraj who is so evil towards her.




Totally agree. Suraj has always had this hidden fondness for Imli since the beginning. When KN told Suraj about the condition that if Chakor loses the race and Imli would be freed, Suraj was affected. Not because of the fact that his father had hidden this plan from him but by the fact that Imli would go away from him. Not to forget when he saw her dancing with Chagan, he was affected. It wasn't because he thought she never completed her work but because he was jealous seeing her with Chagan. He was eyeing Imli through out the sangeet ceremony even though Tina and Chakor were there. His focus was only on her.

I do feel sorry for Vivaan. He has always lost the people he has loved but he is such a gentle and nice soul that he cannot see Imli and her unborn child in pain.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks for the pre-leap information. I can see the CVs have been extremely inconsistent and have intentionally created the confusion of whether Suraj would eventually fall for Chakor or Imli or become the villian. At this point all we can do is keep watching to see how the story goes and see how the CVs take the story. Right now I'm convinced Suraj will not end up as the post-leap villian - they've showed a softer side of him. Let's see what happens.
Given the way he pulled off the bridal swap - and all the post-leap flirting with Chakor( you really think he's not attracted to Chakor?? ) - it will be really really weird if the CVs show he actually loves imli.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ipkrr

Thanks for the pre-leap information. I can see the CVs have been extremely inconsistent and have intentionally created the confusion of whether Suraj would eventually fall for Chakor or Imli or become the villian. At this point all we can do is keep watching to see how the story goes and see how the CVs take the story. Right now I'm convinced Suraj will not end up as the post-leap villian - they've showed a softer side of him. Let's see what happens.

Given the way he pulled off the bridal swap - and all the post-leap flirting with Chakor( you really think he's not attracted to Chakor?? ) - it will be really really weird if the CVs show he actually loves imli.


I feel it will be really weird if the Cv's show he actually falls for Chakor after all what he had for Imli. Flirting doesn't always lead to falling in love. The equation Suraj has had with Imli is different to what he has for Chakor. With Chakor there is ego and revenge. He is using her for money because he knows that she is a successful runner. So basically the money that he couldn't get from Tina he wants from Chakor. Like previously mentioned the bridal swap was an instant decision taken by Suraj for revenge. The actual test will start now. How will he take imvaan relationship? Yesterday's epi was a clear indication of this. He wasn't at all happy with Vivaan accepting Imli and her child. I think he was expecting Vivaan to leave and Imli to go away with the child and the he could torture Chakor.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: SeaOcean


I feel it will be really weird if the Cv's show he actually falls for Chakor after all what he had for Imli. Flirting doesn't always lead to falling in love. The equation Suraj has had with Imli is different to what he has for Chakor. With Chakor there is ego and revenge. He is using her for money because he knows that she is a successful runner. So basically the money that he couldn't get from Tina he wants from Chakor. Like previously mentioned the bridal swap was an instant decision taken by Suraj for revenge. The actual test will start now. How will he take imvaan relationship? Yesterday's epi was a clear indication of this. He wasn't at all happy with Vivaan accepting Imli and her child. I think he was expecting Vivaan to leave and Imli to go away with the child and the he could torture Chakor.

It's interesting - I read it differently. Suraj not being completely bad - comes in to stop Imli - even tho he may be does not remember doing the act - he realizes it may have happened, and if so - its his child.
He is about to interrupt and Vivaan steps in and assumes responsibility for Imli's child. Suraj is glad the situation is handled. He does not love Imli - but has affection for her based on their past. He is selfish tho - so Vivaan stepped in - Imli is good and ...he is happy to move on to other things with Chakor. He does not rush to comfort Imli - but is more keen to get Chakor home for the inauguration. Suraj shows a strong attraction for Chakor even with his body language. In fact whatever minimal romance the CVs showed to confuse us between Imli and Suraj - he looked so awkward and forced...great acting 😊
If you look back he also started the Tina marriage angle only after Chakor got engaged. In one of their conversations post wedding - he says - I did not object when you and Vivaan decided to get married...I thought it was an odd comment at that time - if Suraj was not interested in Chakor. I suspect he has a deep attraction for Chakor - whether he realizes it or not. He told Imli her sister was a 'patakka' and..another dialogue about something in him came alive when he saw her...this kiss challenge ... he was all excited like a school boy for that one...holi sequence... then the scene in the morning the rose dew dialogue...he shut the door on Imli's face on the nite of SR without even looking at her - only focus was on Chakor...even with the wedding rituals - he did not even glance at Imli.
I agree CVs can show Imli and Suraj going forward...they can do anything...but given all the scenes between Suraj and Chakor - it will be very weird and illogical and not backed up by their own story. It would be Suraj - doing a 360 degree turn and suddenly thinking he know wants her.
Its always interesting to me to see how we all see the same thing and yet take away very different inferences😛 Let's circle back in a couple of months and see who read the CVs right! I'll be very disappointed if it's not Sukor but Imraj - but at least I will learn for the next serial ...right ??😊

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