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@makram,hun what i am about to say, is just for arguments sake. to put my point forward, so for gods sake dont take it personally please !

Well said, SHAB. 🤗Hopefully, she'll understand that there is ANOTHER reality besides the biased one she keeps on holding. It is so easy for you to characterize our opinions simply in the "yuvi fans" section. Did you ever think that we feel what we feel and say what we say because we ACTUALLY believe in those words.

neetu excellent :)) well said :)

^dont thank me neetu, im not scoring points here.

Shab and neetu both you guys have explained this whole matter very well i just dont get why some people dont understand it if what you guys said doesnt get thru to them i dont know what will

Originally posted by: shab83

@makram,hun what i am about to say, is just for arguments sake. to put my point forward, so for gods sake dont take it personally please !

you have just said, that if 20 yrs from now you get ur son married, and god forbid if his wife left him it would have a negative affect on you !

well yes, you are absolutly right !

but what i would like to say is that, would you rather ur son be stuck in a loveless marriage??

if later on you found out that ur daughter in law was not happy, what kind of a negative affect would that have on you then? a far worse one !

you know when a girl has a lover b4 marriage, and if she is forcefully married like vrinda, love doesnt allways nesecarily blossom with you husband after marriage. not every girl falls in lover with surinder sani you know !

what if that girl duznt leave ur son, because of the reasons you have stated, for the sake of ur families IZZAT, but she would be putting hers and ur sons life in a lifetime of heartache. you know a girl can fulfill all her DUTIES, but if she can never lover her husband, that is the worst kind of torture. and in reality, that does affect the marriage also. would you rather a girl stick with her husband, because it is demanded of her, because of society, because it is ther "right" thing to do, even tho she would NEVER be happy ?

plz do answer this. you talk about reality, as if you know it all.

but in reality hun, you have no idea how so many girls who are in vrindas situtation are unhappy after marriage. but they are stuck, they cannot leave their loveless marriages because of people like you, who say that no matter what, marriage is marriage and you stick with it. even if it makes you and your partteners life hell. because seriously, eventually it will.

i have been reading your coments, and decided to stay quiet, but since you keep bringing REALITY into it, i couldnt stay quiet any longer. i have seen reality with my own eyes hun, and thats why i am able to write what i have written. not because i am a yuvi fan,. i hope you understand what i am saying. my point of view is not biassed, and my judgment has not been clouded because i love yug and vrinda.

im saying this coz of the experiances i have seen around me in my life.

so many people are pushed into having extra marital affairs because of this reason, because of forced marriages, (and for the record, i am not condoning having an affair, i am against the concept, i hate people who have affairs) but really can you blame them ? (and by the way, im not saying that everyone who has an affair is having it because they have been forcefully married, i know there are jerks out there who just do it for the fun of it, so dont try to use that against me)

and at least yug and vrinda are not having an affair, are they?? NO, they are doing the decent thing and just waiting for rb to fulfill his promise. how are they being selfish in that. if they were selfish, yug and vrinda would be meeting each other at every opotunity to make out.

the only reason yug asked vrinda to meet him, was for confirmation, not so they could have a love session !

getting back to the point,

isnt it better to leave you partener as soon as possible, and give them and their family, and your own, less besati, heartache and shame, (that will be easier to get over) rather than to dragg it on and multiply all the shame and besati and heartache a thousand times.

you know they say, 1 NO, is better than a thousand YES'. its better to leave at the earliest possible moment, than to do it later.

vrinda wanted to leave rb, staright away. but it was rb who wanted her to stay for 6 months.

yes his mum has cancer, and she would have felt pain, any one would in that situation, but if rb had been honest with his family right after he found out the truth, by now their wounds would have heeled a little. infact by now, rb could have even got married again. he could have been setteled with a new wife. and his ammu would have got over what had happened.

but no. rb was SELFISH. and because of that, now he, and his family, will suffer twice as much !

but i guess you will still say that rb is not at fault, and vrinda should stick with him, even if it means she lives the rest of her life as a lie, right.

i know, people like you, never change. because sadly that is your reality !

i know what you are saying is right to an extend BUT my argument from the beginning has been the same...... and my only argument is that.... vrinda knew that she wouldn't want to be living with RB even before marriage that is why she told him the all that the first night.... WHY DIDNT SHE SAY THAT TO HIM BEFORE MARRIAGE so he could decide if he wanted to be involved in it..... it would be different if she had any intention to stay with him or even give him a chance.... if it doesnt work out then it doesnt work out..... and marriage is not end of life divorce is always an option BUT in this case she chose to not say a word before marriage and told him right after the marriage...... truth telling and being honest should have been done before she got married to him..... or if she did get married stay with him see if it works but if it doenst then by all means end it..... I am not saying that marriage is marriage and u have to be with him even if u are not happy.... but here she didnt even try... and knew that the she wouldnt try but still got married to him....... thats what i am against........

i do talk about reality.....coz try doing what she is did and just watch where it leads her and her family. hun, I myself been through the situation...... so i am speaking from first hand experience..... i too once was stuck between my love and family and did get married to someone else.... but the difference was that my husband knew that i liked someone else before marriage and chose to marry me coz he liked me.... yet when i got married i did promise to try the best I could.... and i did.... and today I have been married for 5 years have a 2 kids.... yes the trasition was never easy.... and like they say ur first love always hold a special place in ur life... and so does mine and yet today he is my best friend, coz he knows me better.... if for any reason i couldnt connect with my husband after give it sometime i sure as hell would have left......

same goes for vrinda.... give ur marriage a try if it works good if it doesnt the go seperate ways..... but i dont agree with vrinda coz she walked into a marriage knowing that she doesn't want to give it a chance.... which is WRONG......

on the other hand, love marriages dont always work out either.... and i am witnessing that too.... my own sister married the person she claimed couldnt live without and could die for him.... and today only 3 years latter she is standing in court fighting for her daughter's custody and filling divorce..... all that becuase she wasn't happy with him and I support her in her decision....... if u look at statistics the success rate of arranged and love marriages is the same..... and people who do marry for love also end up on extra marital afairs....

therefore, i dont say vrinda should live with RB coz she doesnt want to try.... which is fine.... i am not against them seperating.... i am against the way its going down.... and all the blame being put on RB..... coz honestly this is a trouble for RB which he didnt call for......

i too have read numerous things in this forum for a long time and finally decided to say something. I hope now u understand my stand on the whole situation.

Originally posted by: shab83

^dont thank me neetu, im not scoring points here.

i only said whats in my heart.

but i will say thnx to you, for adding to what i was trying to say about forced marriages.

does anyone watch app ki kacheri with kiran ? on there they have shown countless cases, of 14 year old girls who have had force marriages. and they can do nothing but accept their husbands. and this doesnt just happen in india and pakistan. i live in england, and you'd be surprised to know who many 16year olds have been taken back home to and thrown into marriage with complete starngers.

forced mariages happen everyday, all around the world.

but im sure MAKRAM1786, will say that this doesnt matter, because nothing is wrong against the sanctity of marriage, anything goes to get someone married off, lieing, cheating, fraud, deception, emotional blackmail, but as soon the marriage has taken place, then the rules of religeon and society come into place. where do those rules go when a girl (or boy) is majboor, and are forcefully bound into a relation without their choice?

plz do tell me MAKRAM. im waiting.

hun what made u think that i would support such things.... this is the problem with speaking up in these forums you say one thing and its transformed into a totally different thing...... I am a mother too, and i know forced marriages are happening around the world.... but if girls wont learn to speak up for themselves then who will????? no religion, culture or society is bigger than a human being..... things dont and wont change over night... but we need to continusly try to change things and teach other kids right from wrong..... and hope that one day such things can be eradicated..... today we need to teach or kids and sisters to be honest about their feelings before its too late..... and NO, marriage is not the end of the world..... no one needs to be unhappily bound to anything....

i know there are situations when majoobri comes in ur way..... and in that case no religion says to be in a unhappy marriage..... i am a Muslim and I know my religion says that no one can forcefully keep me bound to a unhappy relationship..... as far as society goes society is for people, people are not for society..... so if you were forced to marry someone and tried to work things out, but if it still doenst work then every human has a right to find their happiness... and DIVORCE IS ALWAYS AN OPTION......

i think its about time we teach our kids to be honest and speak up for themselves..... I have a daughter and I in mind what she likes to eat, what color of clothes she likes to wear, what toy she likes the most.... WHY WOULD I NOT CARE WHO SHE WOULD LIKE TO SPEND HER LIFE WITH.... and i am no special mother or the one and only out there who cares for her children.... every parents care for their child.... the only thing we need today is to change older generation's views..... and that can only be accomplished by speaking up for your rights......

Originally posted by: Neetu2825

Well said, SHAB. 🤗Hopefully, she'll understand that there is ANOTHER reality besides the biased one she keeps on holding. It is so easy for you to characterize our opinions simply in the "yuvi fans" section. Did you ever think that we feel what we feel and say what we say because we ACTUALLY believe in those words.

@makram1786:You've asked us to put "ourselves in RB's shoes" so many times. Hun, I wrote my argument BY putting myself in each character's shoes. I don't just blindly let my opinion get clouded by my liking of yuvi...I support them because I FEEL they are right. I think you should starting putting yourself in other character's shoes, makram1786 before you start pointing the finger at us for being biased. I don't say this to offend you but to simply state my point of view.

The one thing I'm against in this story is not RB per say, btu rather, this whole concept of showing that a forced marriage CAN be successful. It is a lie. There are countless forced marriages that continue only because society forces those couples to stay together. That isn't right. If EKTA makes Vrinda choose RB over Yug, she is promoting the idea of Forced marriages. We don't need to send this type of message out to the masses, who are already open to do what they want at the sacrifice of their children's happiness. Try to understand this with an open mind.

ok here goes nothing...... well i am not looking at the situation as forced marriages can work or if the concept is right.... i am just simply looking at the situation that brought yug vrinda and RB in the current situation..... and events that lead to it...... vrinda was forced to marry RB i know that and I dont support her family's decision........ vrinda didnt want this marriage, I understand that and agree with her for not wanting to marry him...... but here is my problem..... she was being forced into a marriage that she didnt want coudnt say anything to her family coz she cares for her family, their honor and bla bla bla..... yet she had her mind set that fine I will get married and on the first night will tell my husband that I love someone else and leave him..... for god sake, DO U NOT SEE THAT WAS WRONG.... she could have said the same thing before marriage...... that way RB could decide for his own future and his family..... instead of vrinda deciding for him..... that is my only problem nothing else...... i am not talking about forced marriages being right or should be allowed, nor am i saying that one should continue to be in a unhappy relationship...... i am talking about honesty at the RIGHT TIME.

vrinda here saved her family's honor but put RB's life and his family's honor on line.... which I dont agree with....

I hope now you can understand my point.....

Originally posted by: makram1786

ok here goes nothing...... well i am not looking at the situation as forced marriages can work or if the concept is right.... i am just simply looking at the situation that brought yug vrinda and RB in the current situation..... and events that lead to it...... vrinda was forced to marry RB i know that and I dont support her family's decision........ vrinda didnt want this marriage, I understand that and agree with her for not wanting to marry him...... but here is my problem..... she was being forced into a marriage that she didnt want coudnt say anything to her family coz she cares for her family, their honor and bla bla bla..... yet she had her mind set that fine I will get married and on the first night will tell my husband that I love someone else and leave him..... for god sake, DO U NOT SEE THAT WAS WRONG.... she could have said the same thing before marriage...... that way RB could decide for his own future and his family..... instead of vrinda deciding for him..... that is my only problem nothing else...... i am not talking about forced marriages being right or should be allowed, nor am i saying that one should continue to be in a unhappy relationship...... i am talking about honesty at the RIGHT TIME.

vrinda here saved her family's honor but put RB's life and his family's honor on line.... which I dont agree with....

I hope now you can understand my point.....

Makram,

Keeping personal experiences asides let's focus on the serial:

You say why couldn't vrinda talk to Rb before marriage- well lets revisit March 25^th……when everything started….Vrinda did go to meet Yug and of course yugs grandpa didn't let her meet him and she was heartbroken….yug was kept hidden and then sent off to London

At home despite everyone knowing they are wrong yet no one was able to help her- so left alone all depressed had no say. If she was to run or do anything where and what could she do cause yug was not even there. Let's not forget they kept an eye on what she did where she went…..her grandparents didn't want her past love to be mentioned at all so everyone tried to cover it…

In all that situation how would she have talk to RB?? They never let her talk to him cause they knew she would blew this up--- 2 exact scenes are shown with her and RB in which they made sure the whole family is present. So they never gave her the option of being alone with him. She was watched 24/7

So after she gets married she's away from her village no one can harm her. So she can finally tell RB now that she's given the time to be alone with him and the first chance she gets she tells him.

So vrinda is not wrong in anyway…..RB should have kicked her out right than… vrinda didn't just casually say "hey I had a past" she cried to him and said she can't live with him… so its RBS fault for his selfish reasons he stopped her. They never had of any relationship in which he can "like or love" her or whatever- the girl pleaded in front of him RB didn't listen instead said stay I will return you to yug just stay for 6 months. Also you say Vrinda should have cleared things well RB was he dumb? Through the engagement to whatever vrinda never looked happy didn't even talk to him so he couldn't take the courage to make some conversation with her….come on now rbs at complete fault as well.

Vrinda and yug were stopped from both sides to do anything so it's not their faults at all…

About the parents the reputation etc etc well I say how cruel of the parents to do what they did so in the end they should suffer…yes RB didn't deserve this but no one told him to blindly marry a girl- he could have talked to her before marriage…If vrinda was given time she would have told Rb before marriage but her marriage to rb was within some days or less…… so in that situation I don't blame Vrinda at all…Vrinda didn't do anything or planned out anything she went with flow- so she had no intentions of ruining RB's life so like I said before the moment she got the time to be alone with him she said it yeah it was too late and it was after marriage but come-on at least she didn't hide anything.

I know of people who on their wedding night found about things and ended it no one deserves to drag things and make 2 peoples life like hell…..there are some things you just can't try- well just look at her situation- everything was forced and love is never earned by forced on top of that RB is way older and not attractive so how can she work with this relationship…..

-but see if Yug himself had said vrinda I don't want to marry you etc etc Vrinda would have moved on but it was very unfair how they kept the lovers apart and got her married. So it only makes sense of her to say what she did during her wedding night and do what she's doing right now

Again: I have to repeat and say she was never given the opportunity to talk to RB before marriage if she had she would have cleared it up.

So it's totally different situation which no one in this forum can relate with now let's not forget this is entertainment and Vrinda was not given the opportunity otherwise she would have told RB so you can't blame her at all.

I would suggest you please check the links out below and revisit the trauma everyone went through so no questions should arise after watching it:

25^th march last part:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5JpJqwn9ek&feature=related

26^th: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFbwNM73Zlc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFSnMMlBCs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBaR4a-feU

27^th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jioBy-pNbkc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhsEBD8-X5w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKdo6eIewWc&feature=related

30^th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox8qKq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwdIX19wejQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw3suWB9k1Q

the time when she tells him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owwpm8No4pM

you can see 31^st- april 2^nd as well……………………if in any way something said above is not correct than pardon my english =)

OK well I have just read everything and i want to add a couple of points: