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Posted: 7 years ago
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Another amazing episode! And I loved your discussion!

I was so happy to see Uma recognising his mistakes, this is a big step forward for him and he is correcting all the past wrongs that he has made, much to the shock of Masisa who is slowly and surely losing her grip on him.

Loved this side of Uma, so caring, so apologetic, and quick to accept his fault so much so that he made sure to ask Payal for her decision in the marriage to Ved, whereas before he used to take it upon himself to make decisions of the family, being the male and leader of the house.

This was an important part of the episode because it is educating everyone that is watching it that you cannot force marriage upon someone, that marriage can only be true when both the parties are fully satisfied to happily give consent.

I loved this episode, how Uma realised just how bad Aditya is and capable of so much wickedness that he threw his photo away, it was satisfying seeing Masisa suddenly realising that her plan is failing, and that her darling son is humiliated in front of everyone.

Still there is work to be done in exposing Masisa, maybe Maasa will know more regarding her backstory and to find more we need Maasa to recover soon.

So happy to see Bhabho, how she has changed from her own beginnings in DABH, she is more understanding and righteous than Masisa could ever hope to be, and I feel Bhabho can detect that somethings not right regarding Masisa.

Just my imagination but could it be possible that Kanak will be separated from Uma for a while but only because Uma and Kanaks wedding can be repeated this time, as Uma wants to rectify his mistake of forcefully marrying her, so a wedding repeated with the rituals done properly and this time with Kanaks family involved and without any compulsion on her part would be nice. After all, everyone loves weddings in serials!

Edited by Lizzydarcy - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Dear blue

I really loved your quote about mistake

"When you make a mistake, there are only three things one should do about it: admit it, learn from it and never repeat it ~ P Bryant"

Thank you for sharing.

Maasi is always love to put down bhabho where as Bhabho is ready to give gentle yet fitting answer to Maasi and I do enjoy their dialogues and agree with you that it will be a charm to watch them like this.
I don't think Maasi ever cared for Payal as daughter in law except for showing but when Payal's marriage talks are happening with Ved, she is concerned. It's more like she want to get better at Rathi's rather than her concern towards her son. I am sure she knows Aditya is never going to be a proper husband to Payal and he won't even like to live in Uma's house. Aditya's life style so far is selfish that I am sure Maasisa don't have any hopes to see a proper family man in Aditya.

The scene of the day for me is where Uma stops and asks Payal opinion about marriage with ved. I simply loved it and it's also cue for every one and Payal to expect her decision in all her matters.
I hope the same continues after Ved and Payal marriage and we see a strong Payal with her unique qualities rather than a dependent on others.

"Uma is conflicted when Massi interrupts saying that Payal is married and by Dharm the marriage ain't possible, that pondering expression of Uma reminded me of Uma from the initial days of the show, how he used to give a thoughtful reply"

Yes, I thought so too. Uma always used to have this pondering expression even when kanak questioned him. We don't know what his thought then but all those Kanak questions are being answered slowly now.I so much wanted to read his mind on those days .He using his thoughts on those days that Kanak stirred today as his actions.

Technically Payal never married Aditya. She promised all her vows to a Photo but Aditya never returned those vows and also his actions clearly r breaking the vows which he never made but the relation between Payal and Aditya expects. So happy that finally Payal is going to have a beautiful life with ved.

Payal asking Kanak to be with Uma is simply expected. Whenever we receive good from a good soul , we always give a blessing and only expect the best for that soul.
Until yesterday, Payal had only curses for Uma but today Uma's actions made Payal to give only blessings to Uma and also Wish his happiness whole life along. She was sure that Kanak is the only happiness that Uma requires. Hope we will see their love becomes more strong and strong each day and becomes unbreakable.

"for people like Aditya never make do with situations, they are just there to hurt family and people around them"

I still think Maasisa is a fool to not to teach anything to Aditya. Even if she gives all the money in the world to Aditya, he need to know how to manage it.
At the current rate, Aditya don't know anything except how to spend money and to do all other vile things without thinking. how anyone can live happily with these qualities I am not sure.
How our clever lady Massisa didn't realise that?

Thank you for taking time to do your beautiful analysis every day blue

Manasa
Edited by manasa.123 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Wonderful analysis blue,
Just now saw the episode,liked it especially the words of uma to massisa and payal to kanak.
Glad to see payal's concern about kanak and uma relationship..
Thanks again for your nice thoughtful writing!!!

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Another nice analysis by you blue!
I liked that quote of mistake very much..I liked the epi too...
Thanks for taking time & writing!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: foram.

Nice post blue

Uma is changing :)
He was anyway going to change but wasn't expecting at this expense of masi sa turning evil

So aditya chapter is not closed yet
Wonder when will it be over and when we get a proper kanum track... After kareshu dasi track nothing is kanum related
Babaji track was for sarvanash and kanum sep
But after that nothing really happening wrt to kanum
Uma is victim kanak is winning but where is kanum in this
Sorry for the rant its just that no more patience left
I hate saas bahu dramas and wasn't really expecting tsmsp as one which now it has become

Reg payal adi theirs was child marriage might not been registered and photo se shadi kaun manta hai so why bother about divorce procedure

And sarvansh to always no comments
They ruined saras innocence and her character
She was suppose to be like uma dharam ki pakki and principle ki pakki and not change herself for vansh but make him accept like she is..
Don't know if trp audience even buying this track
No offence to fans



Hey there Foram
Thank you for reading and commenting.

It was evident from the beginning that Massi was a colorful character, but to make up for Uma's extremity they turned her all black. It would have been amazing to have her like a chameleon, coming up with new challenges rather than being outright evil, they could have redeemed evil black Massi to grey if she had taken a stand against Aditya when he sold off Payal. - but that's me

Coming back to KanUm they have been missing for a long long time. So much has happened ever since teej yet nothing has happened between KanUm ... KanUm came back in Tuesday episode, both in their room, pondering over whatever that happened, Uma accepting his mistake and feeling guilty about it, Kanak understanding his guilt, she feels bad that he had done such a thing, but is happy that he acknowledged his mistakes- that scene was long overdue, they never had a proper conversation without any underlying motive, a conversation where Kanak was not hell bent of proving a point ...
The patience level has declined, but there is that spark in the horizon, which says KanUm might finally begin..
fingers crossed for what happens next.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Dear blue,
Beautiful analysis. I was happy to see the spoiler about today's episode but when I saw the episode I went into anxiety mode about the CWs probably trying to start a mini track within this track where massi sa will now try to impede Payals wedding in the next seven days. Why couldn't they just go to mandir and do an instant shadi. Doolha dulhan raazi tho Kya karay ga shub mahurath? Why does massi sa give a damn about Payal leaving. One less subject to seve her or one less puppet in her evil game? And Payals mother who would appear like a snake right where kanak was in pushkar , which is such a big place, why is she not here? Most likely massi sa will give her bribes for impeding the marriage in the next seven days. Choop bethnay walay logo masay tho hai nahi Sam Dan sa. And God forbid Payal will stand up for herself and use her rights as a citizen! Poor kanak has to use her voice and brain for everyone!
And that promo about massi sa threatening kanak with bringing Uma to a level worse than begggars or something , was terribly scary! Poor Uma baby! Just when you think you have seen all her colors she has more to show. And obviously Aditya will not get caught just so he can come back in suit boot to witness the divorce scene between kanak and Uma. Great! Times like this you ask where exactly is God and why is He just letting evil prevail over good?! Of course, not to be blasphemous, it's our creative writers playing the unfair gods and creating injustices while relishing in TRPS! In the beginning days of the drama and the Kanum marriage it was Shiv gi this and shiv gi that! Doesn't Uma think about how he is treating the one Shiv chose for him. Is massi sa above his faith in Shiv ? There have been bloopers everywhere, big and small, but this is really big because our character Uma can't even separate himself from Shiv. So where was his faith when he was vowing to divorce kanak? Convenient for CWs to overlook such a major detail but not so convenient for us to digest!
Edited by Iceblue - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: manasa.123

Dear blue

I really loved your quote about mistake

"When you make a mistake, there are only three things one should do about it: admit it, learn from it and never repeat it ~ P Bryant"

Thank you for sharing.

Maasi is always love to put down bhabho where as Bhabho is ready to give gentle yet fitting answer to Maasi and I do enjoy their dialogues and agree with you that it will be a charm to watch them like this.
I don't think Maasi ever cared for Payal as daughter in law except for showing but when Payal's marriage talks are happening with Ved, she is concerned. It's more like she want to get better at Rathi's rather than her concern towards her son. I am sure she knows Aditya is never going to be a proper husband to Payal and he won't even like to live in Uma's house. Aditya's life style so far is selfish that I am sure Maasisa don't have any hopes to see a proper family man in Aditya.

The scene of the day for me is where Uma stops and asks Payal opinion about marriage with ved. I simply loved it and it's also cue for every one and Payal to expect her decision in all her matters.
I hope the same continues after Ved and Payal marriage and we see a strong Payal with her unique qualities rather than a dependent on others.

"Uma is conflicted when Massi interrupts saying that Payal is married and by Dharm the marriage ain't possible, that pondering expression of Uma reminded me of Uma from the initial days of the show, how he used to give a thoughtful reply"

Yes, I thought so too. Uma always used to have this pondering expression even when kanak questioned him. We don't know what his thought then but all those Kanak questions are being answered slowly now.I so much wanted to read his mind on those days .He using his thoughts on those days that Kanak stirred today as his actions.

Technically Payal never married Aditya. She promised all her vows to a Photo but Aditya never returned those vows and also his actions clearly r breaking the vows which he never made but the relation between Payal and Aditya expects. So happy that finally Payal is going to have a beautiful life with ved.

Payal asking Kanak to be with Uma is simply expected. Whenever we receive good from a good soul , we always give a blessing and only expect the best for that soul.
Until yesterday, Payal had only curses for Uma but today Uma's actions made Payal to give only blessings to Uma and also Wish his happiness whole life along. She was sure that Kanak is the only happiness that Uma requires. Hope we will see their love becomes more strong and strong each day and becomes unbreakable.

"for people like Aditya never make do with situations, they are just there to hurt family and people around them"

I still think Maasisa is a fool to not to teach anything to Aditya. Even if she gives all the money in the world to Aditya, he need to know how to manage it.
At the current rate, Aditya don't know anything except how to spend money and to do all other vile things without thinking. how anyone can live happily with these qualities I am not sure.
How our clever lady Massisa didn't realise that?

Thank you for taking time to do your beautiful analysis every day blue

Manasa



Hey there Manasa
Thank you for reading and a wonderful elaborate comment.

There is this thing lying around the house for so long, it has no purpose or use, yet it's still there... but the moment someone asks to borrow it or take it off ones hand as its useless in their house, a person becomes possessive about it... same is with Massi ... she has no concern to anyone be it Payal... but it's that when Rathi come knocking she considers her bahu and parayi ghar ki Beti ...and most shocking off all for her is that Uma decided to get Payal married off, a person whom she nurtured with regression had such a positive thought, that too regarding a woman.

Yes it was a moment of truth for Uma when he stops and says he can't do this... he asks Payal to take a decision for herself, and she agrees... it's the same guy who denounced his sister for deciding for herself and eloping... that guy today gave the decision making power to Payal, k apne faisle khud karo... Uma is crawling towards the light slowly.

Marriages in this show are weird...that's enough said for starting from Payal and photo marriage to SarVansh.

Massi thinks it's okay to raise a snake like Aditya and then expecting that it won't bite. But snakes are not pets they bite sooner or later.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Iceblue

Dear blue,

Beautiful analysis. I was happy to see the spoiler about today's episode but when I saw the episode I went into anxiety mode about the CWs probably trying to start a mini track within this track where massi sa will now try to impede Payals wedding in the next seven days. Why couldn't they just go to mandir and do an instant shadi. Doolha dulhan raazi tho Kya karay ga shub mahurath? Why does massi sa give a damn about Payal leaving. One less subject to seve her or one less puppet in her evil game? And Payals mother who would appear like a snake right where kanak was in pushkar , which is such a big place, why is she not here? Most likely massi sa will give her bribes for impeding the marriage in the next seven days. Choop bethnay walay logo masay tho hai nahi Sam Dan sa. And God forbid Payal will stand up for herself and use her rights as a citizen! Poor kanak has to use her voice and brain for everyone!
And that promo about massi sa threatening kanak with bringing Uma to a level worse than begggars or something , was terribly scary! Poor Uma baby! Just when you think you have seen all her colors she has more to show. And obviously Aditya will not get caught just so he can come back in suit boot to witness the divorce scene between kanak and Uma. Great! Times like this you ask where exactly is God and why is He just letting evil prevail over good?! Of course, not to be blasphemous, it's our creative writers playing the unfair gods and creating injustices while relishing in TRPS! In the beginning days of the drama and the Kanum marriage it was Shiv gi this and shiv gi that! Doesn't Uma think about how he is treating the one Shiv chose for him. Is massi sa above his faith in Shiv ? There have been bloopers everywhere, big and small, but this is really big because our character Uma can't even separate himself from Shiv. So where was his faith when he was vowing to divorce kanak? Convenient for CWs to overlook such a major detail but not so convenient for us to digest!


Ice
Agreed, TRPs are deciding show.
As per divorce promo there is already a new track now with payal marriage subtrack god knows when kanum scenes happen, last time i saw a decent real kanum track was in September rest all are dreams and figments of imagination! Kanum will not get together in 2017 yeh toh confirm hai par evenn in 2018 na insaaf CVs😭
Edited by savithp - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Iceblue

Dear blue,

Beautiful analysis. I was happy to see the spoiler about today's episode but when I saw the episode I went into anxiety mode about the CWs probably trying to start a mini track within this track where massi sa will now try to impede Payals wedding in the next seven days. Why couldn't they just go to mandir and do an instant shadi. Doolha dulhan raazi tho Kya karay ga shub mahurath? Why does massi sa give a damn about Payal leaving. One less subject to seve her or one less puppet in her evil game? And Payals mother who would appear like a snake right where kanak was in pushkar , which is such a big place, why is she not here? Most likely massi sa will give her bribes for impeding the marriage in the next seven days. Choop bethnay walay logo masay tho hai nahi Sam Dan sa. And God forbid Payal will stand up for herself and use her rights as a citizen! Poor kanak has to use her voice and brain for everyone!
And that promo about massi sa threatening kanak with bringing Uma to a level worse than begggars or something , was terribly scary! Poor Uma baby! Just when you think you have seen all her colors she has more to show. And obviously Aditya will not get caught just so he can come back in suit boot to witness the divorce scene between kanak and Uma. Great! Times like this you ask where exactly is God and why is He just letting evil prevail over good?! Of course, not to be blasphemous, it's our creative writers playing the unfair gods and creating injustices while relishing in TRPS! In the beginning days of the drama and the Kanum marriage it was Shiv gi this and shiv gi that! Doesn't Uma think about how he is treating the one Shiv chose for him. Is massi sa above his faith in Shiv ? There have been bloopers everywhere, big and small, but this is really big because our character Uma can't even separate himself from Shiv. So where was his faith when he was vowing to divorce kanak? Convenient for CWs to overlook such a major detail but not so convenient for us to digest!



Hey there Ice
Thank you for reading and commenting.

I absolutely agree with all your points, but TSMSP is a daily soap, soap a name given very aptly the bar is moistened with water, then rubbed gently to lather, sometimes vigorously to get more larger bubbles .. with constant use the bar gets smaller and more broken, And then again the same circle begins with the next bar - the same is with the show, just when it feels that it can't be used anymore they stick it up with another bar of soap, scrounging and draining all sanity out of it.

Coming back to the show, it has to have drama and it's an inevitable ritual during wedding sequence in shows... Massi is highly offended and is writhing in agony by the proposal and Uma throwing Aditya out. She looked like a snake ready to strike and kill its opponent... she might try something to stop the marriage or she might not, either way it's not going to be easy.
But the way she has carried out a threat against Uma, that's for sure raises the bar, how far can she aim for, how is she going to excecute it for she sure as hell can do anything with a snap of fingers.

Well it's ironic that everything is happening in name of Dharm yet the God is forgotten - I would rather leave it here.
Coming to Uma being a Shivji bhakt, he has digressed from the path while searching for trps... even the people with strongest of faith have moments of weakness, it's in such times when the thread is to be held tightly, Uma lost his grip and Massi had her chance to get to his mind, she poured vile and twisted his version of faith. And it's ever since the SarVansh track he is shown Massi ka bhakt... he is coming back from the coma slowly and would return to Shivji someday.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Wow! blue
You cracked me up with this

"I absolutely agree with all your points, but TSMSP is a daily soap, soap a name given very aptly the bar is moistened with water, then rubbed gently to lather, sometimes vigorously to get more larger bubbles .. with constant use the bar gets smaller and more broken, And then again the same circle begins with the next bar - the same is with the show, just when it feels that it can't be used anymore they stick it up with another bar of soap, scrounging and draining all sanity out of it. "

Specially last bit.

👏

😆😆

And it's ever since the SarVansh track he is shown Massi ka bhakt... he is coming back from the coma slowly and would return to Shivji someday.

Me too, It's a while that we get to see Uma and Shivji ka connection.

I really love to read all your replies that u give to all of us. They r really add value to our days.

Thank u blue
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Edited by manasa.123 - 7 years ago

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