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Originally posted by: nottygarfield
i was dyinggg to sin...errrr...post my tidbits on this one! 😉
waise to ab tak DMG chars hv not scored so high on the sin-o-meter atleast by BT standards..but they have all shown some signs... pray do tell what BT means...am a little lost here...
Armaan and Angy are indeed proud and confident.And Armaans sin finds a greater adversary in Ridhimmas wrath.She is quite selective in this sin of hers aint she!For no one has faced her wrath more than Armaan.She is prejudiced againt his pride.How is his pride different from Angy's?Both Armaan and Angy are confident and strong on the exterior.For Armaan prides himself on his confidence,good looks,charm and his intellect.He does have the heart of gold.
Angy's pride comes from her overconfidence,superiority complex and as part of her defence mechanism.
Atul also had a certain opinion of Armaan evident from his "mai jaanta hu tu accha aadmi nahi hai but kabhi acchi batein to kiya kar"..dialogs on those lines and Armaan too retaliating with "tere std ki baat nahi hai"...will not say this is wrath but prejudice???? Pride....which directly results in prejudice...armaan's pride that he is of a certain level...and therefore the prejudice that atul doesn't belong there...
Dr Gupta is also guilty of wrath i believe.Though his sin is not so pronounced,but more often Angy is at the receiving end.She might be guilty at these times but his sin is greater. interesting and yes a very strong possibility...i have to agree.
Lust!hmmm....wouldnt say Armaan lusts for Ridz!No cannot and will not hold him for this...butttt from all the heroes i have seen on screen,his physical desire comes forth as the most striking and evident!He is right out of those M&B books ,the way he eyes Ridz lips,the way he gets affected by her presence ,the way his eyes devour her all over...all this shows a very strong physical attraction. physical desire as a realisation of love will not qualify for the sin of lust. lust is necessarily commdifying the object of one's interest and is a ver savage term. i still do not think armaan's physical need for ridhima will qualify as lust!!
Did anyone notice the dialog that he muttered when after Diwali night Atul and he were discussing abt the girls.They were toking of lips when in confusion Atul asked him tune uske hoth dekhe..and he said...abhi tak to dekh hi raha tha..lekin.... 😉
....lekin for sure this is not LUST.And i actually love this abt him that he doesnt cover up his emotions/feelings/desires/armaans to create a false impression. yeah thank god we agree on that. hey, we all want to kiss the people we love. kissing is a natural expression of those strong emotions and sometimes those physical expressions say a lot of things athat words cannot, which is why we feel the need to physically get intimate with someone we love!! it is a sublime union and you cannot term it lust and cheapen it thus!!!
OK enough gun gaan abt him....
Other sinners...well what abt Ridz father!He is guilty of lust for sure and what else?We still dont know his story.Maybe greed too!?!Would you say Padma is guilty of Lust too???if ever Armaan and Ridz get into a similar situation(i sincerely hope not)..would they be guilty of lust too??? yeah...that has been established...kartik is defintely guilty of lust, though padma isn't, because she just gave into the intensity of her love!!!
Gluttony...Lovely no doubt.Armaan too has shown signs of gluttony when he was stuffing himself over the bet and catching Ridz attention.
memory pensieve empty now 😕 ...and scratching my head anymore would be dangerous 😆 ...so will come bck later if i can thk of anythg else... 😊
@Notty - I so totally agree with ya!!! Especially about the Lust bit, and well whn I read abt it in Aarti's post, the first thing it struck me was ... the scene after Diwali... but sareeta, do tell me you don't think of it as being just lust...sexual need born from love is not lust, if it were, we would all be guilty of that sin!!!
And I agree about Dr Gupta too, but w.r.t Anjie, I guess I dont completely see it the way you 've explained... , I agree , her pride stems from the defense mechanism aspect, but Anjie and Armaan are still are extremely confident people. Dr Gupta may only be fuelling that false sense of pride in her, adding to her cold demeanor, with his unintended behavior towards her and well so is actually as you mentioned committing a sin... but Anjie isnt an insecure person... , coz the kind of sense of superiority that stems out from a deep seated sense of inferiority , is far different and more hollow than the confidence Anjie exudes. i still think anjali's confidence is self created, but yes, it is so convincing even to her that it does seem like it is inborn!!!
Anjie is jus a extremely over confident girl as I see...and this over confidence jus works against her... making her react in haste at times... it defintely works against her....case in point proponal!!!
Jus my 2 cents. Would love to know what you think Notty about this...! 😳
Originally posted by: Poisonivy
Vaarti..agreed bout the Basketball court scene...mayb dat was just a sensuous moment between two lovers...but i still feel dat da jungle scene did hav sum traits of lust...coz see even though he may hav been admiring her beauty and all dat jazz...da look in his eyes is jus undeniably da one dat showz he's holding himself back...in fact not at all...he shows no emotion except tenderness in his eyes!!!Most importantly..Armaan really fell head over heels in lov wid ridz after dat one nyt...mayb it cud b described as a magical nyt..where his feelins 4 her took a complete U turn and what we cannot ignore is dat da proximity dey shared dat nyt...dat definitely aroused sum emotion insyd of him. you are bang on there and trust me if lust is your base feeling for attraction it would die down consequently...waht armaan felt that night is beyond lust and i still maintain, you watch someone sleep through the night then that is the biggest hint that you are in love!!!..uff..i think i hav analysed dis 2 closely....mus b sounding so jobless...sorry if im contradicting u..but its jus my opinion...tc...and by da way dis is an amazing topic... 😃 oh thanks...and you are entitled to your opinion and it is varying opinions that help the discussion grow, so thanks again!!!
Originally posted by: nottygarfield
My dear dear friends...Aarti,Sareeta,Anu and others ...
chalo..v all agree Armaan is not lusting..jaan bakho uski yaar 😉 ..his state is totally understandable! yes yes totally understandable....we forgive you armaan...pine away, thrist away for that first touch!!!!
Aarti maybe Kartik too had some kind of majboori..v dont know his story...which brings a interesting point of discussion here...consummation prior to marriage...is that lust..if it is..then both parties are equally guilty right?and so Padma should also be guilty of this sin.... if the premise for pre marital consummation is love, then i do not think it would qualify for lust. marriage was but a social concept created to encourage monogamy to keep property records organised!!! even extra marital conjugal relations would not qualify for lust if based on love!! funnily enough, infedilty is not listed as a sin. i would think that is very important right? infedility in all forms...
and BT is Balaji Tele..Ekta's maha maya jaal tele channel...for all the gyaan uddhar u do for us le aaj tera bhi GK badh gaya 😉 symbiotic....thanks so much!!!!
Anu..i desparately hope they never have to resort to the BT stds...i'd rather have them just loving/lusting (dur se)and stuffing themselves up with parathas...😆 well said!!!!