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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: music_girl

Let's start with the beginning ✌

Gala was nice, too rushed obviously they cut a lot I hope we get to see the whole uncut version online. Erkan is such a good friend of D that he kept cheering and clapping all the way. I like the new song. Aras is so funny and energetic. 😆 I hated the camera angles could barely see necip all I saw was Cennet 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I found Gala all over the place. They just had 3 performances and 2 minute BTS. So disappointing. 😒


I'm used to award shows having so much content so this was just below my expectations 😆



Originally posted by: music_girl


The episode 🤪 I would prefer a tragic end over this empty finale we watched. A show like this cannot have a finale so boring and frustrating like this. Was gokhan drunk when he wrote this or did the production house interfer? Even in his lowest lows of writing, he writes best dialogues just look at varyam, yamali, yamsel, varsad of s1 or even EfYam what happened here in the last 3 episodes

I did not want a tragic end but after they ended it this way, tragic may have been better maybe 😭


They showed two endings for me: Yamac dying young, Yamac dying old.

I don't like both but rather wanted to see Yamac living and then the four brothers in their old-age and talking about Cukur as the finale. Not Yamac dying at 80 😆

All the dialogues shown in these 3 last episodes had no meaning. 🥺


Originally posted by: music_girl


Fragman made the episode seem exciting so did my 1001 theories which were better than what I watched 🤪But I'm not too mad because I had low expectations and it's finally over.

There was an editing issue because I kept thinking and everyone on Twitter kept thinking that the timeline was messed that he actually died (I wish he did after what I watched) I kept trying to think of what I might missed, all possibilities till my head started hurting 🤪

We still don't know Meliha's secret or who was the og villain that Baykal worked under! 🤣😭🤡 ridiculous

Akin did not tell his truth and they showed his sister and mother paying for his sins

Meliha's secret may be what cumali amca told Sahran but it was so empty. Why was he in love with Sultan then?

Had so many expectations but Gokhan ruined it 😭


Originally posted by: music_girl

Very empty episode. Murtaza definitely shines in this episode along with Nehir-Efsun. 👍🏼👏 I loved Murtaza a lot. The editing or whatever was a problem but I kept thinking what was missing the whole 1.5 hours 🤣 it was still better than what I watched 😆

1. Was the dream of funeral Yamac's? If yes, how did he see Ayse dead? 🤪

I'll go with the good points because the bads there are too many that I won't be able to list them all.

1. Nehir-Efsun. I found Nehir so unnecessary in s3 and s4 but she was the saving grace of the episode. Her conversation was so sad that i actually teared up. When she told he is a good boy to E 💔💔 It was so sad and she gave her kid to E knowing she would protect him... for me it was just like E always protected YK Senior 😆 the best scenes 👏 amazing act by Hazal. This is a closure to the first fairytale Efsun tells Yamac and the episode was called BabaEmmanet. Very fitting and beautiful. Hazal and Damla outshined everyone in this episode. 🤗⭐️⭐️


I love love love Murtaza in this entire episode ❤️

Even liked N-E scene more than the ending and whatever nonsense I saw in those 2.5 hours 😆

1. As I said, Yamac died both times. Young by drowning - one ending, Old age and then he meets his family - second ending. Both mean Yamac dies while the first one shows Ayse-Yamac die and amca takes over while Cumali commits suicide. Second one shows everybody dead 🤣

2. They should have shown this Nehir since the start. She used to go on-and-on to talk about Yamac and him cheating on her but she finally realized he loved Efsun. Felt bad for her but knew there would be Sultan-Mihriban devaju. However, Efsun was never like Sultan and Yamac loved and never cheated on her like Idris did.

Hazal-Damla were good❤️



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2. Murtazza, a hero and a Romeo. Amazingly out and nice plan with the ambulance and all. He got the best end in this episode 😆 👍🏼

I was amazed by Murtaza's acting and character and just loved and adored him. He saved Yamac, committed sui*cide with his love in his arms ❤️Just loved it.


Originally posted by: music_girl

- I still see no need of the drowning scene cos it was all dumb even in this episode. What was the need 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😭


3. Efsun and the control she has over Y who is in love with her anger also 😆 Waited 2 seasons to hear Vartolu say Baykal's kiz to her and Cumali just left as soon as she said everyone get out 🤣 sultan and her conversation with Yamac and Akin on E🤣 Y's "what did i do to deserve you" was totally me during s3 and start of s4 watching E protecting him multiple times while he was being dumb. 😆 like always she knocked some common sense in Yamac and he followed her ideas

Drowning was shown how he dies like Sena but that was just one ending while the other one was him dying after his brothers and leaving the second generation with Masal and all.



3. Loved Efsun scolding him. People got angry but I liked it as Yamac needed those slaps for running towards his death 😆Reminded me of how Sena gave back to Cumali and Selim and then when Yamac ran away from the hospital, she insulted Idris 🤣


Originally posted by: music_girl


4. The plan to kill Sahram and Amca. Akin 🤣 When he threw that headstone 😆 but it wasn't exciting enough lol YK's plan to save EfMas was a better scene 😆 atleast they didn't let Amca get away alive.


5. Salim with the blood to dupe Sahram

4. Wasn't much happy with Sahram and amca's end as it was just too easy. 4 people succeeded without Cukur and plans but they lost the maximum number of family members due to these two. How?🤔

5. Salim was clever



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Wow I can't find a fifth point 😆 Gokhan wrote up to episode 34 really deep then afterwards it went downhill. Brothers had no meaningful dialogues neither did Sultan. I always thought ever since start of s4 that when Efsun will accept Y Jnr she would realise her mistakes with little Salih 🤡 jokes on me. Btw my face was like Mila and Aden during that funeral dream sequence 😆

Efsun telling Sultan that she'll have to pay for her sins 🤔

Efsun telling Yamac that they'll either live or die together 🤔

Yamac mentioning his river or beach dream as the end 🤔

Meliha telling Yamac about Kocavali siblings kil*ling each other 🤔

I also became a clown thinking all this would be shown in the last episode but never 🐷


Originally posted by: music_girl


Sahram was so hyped but he was a disappointment so was Amca. Alico and Seher 🤡 dear lord really

I wanted to watch all little kids play 🤡 the bts of all the kids with the actors saying goodbye are soooo sweet.

The kids looked so tired in that dinner episode. Why did Y shift back to that ugly house of Idris 🐷 Not much deep dialogues for all the characters overall. Very sloppy finale.


I liked Alico-Seher and how she silenced him 😆

Kids never played together but off screen they did 😆


Originally posted by: music_girl

Btw Aras and Damla didn't promote the episode again, no surprise 😆 I hope he does post though he gave 4 years to YK

I don't want Aras to work with this production house and Gokhan but looks like he might. Please don't 😒

The ridiculous and completely stupid afterlife concept. I find it ridiculous and completely foolish. I don't believe in such things and what they did was so dumb. Like the house furniture were shit outdated even the house 😆 Old Yamac 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I don't like Gokhan. All dying of old age and Yamac in any case dying was never a good ending for me 😆

Like why will I watch a movie or show where I'll see my favorite character ending up old and dying and meeting his family members who are also all dead 🤣

Dooms' day in Kocavali house where Saadet is still cooking and men are drinking. Did not know ghosts could drink and click pictures 🤣


Originally posted by: music_girl


So it's up to interpretation the final scene which all fans can do as they please but I looked at it objectively despite how lame I thought it was.

Efsun, Sena and Nehir....Yamac ended up with all three 🤣


Originally posted by: music_girl

First of all Koco heaven for murderers with camera 😭 What the hell was that.

I hate what the misogynist writer did to YK character. As I said everyone can look at it the way they please and I'm good with that (I find the concept so dumb that uffff) it's also the order in which the women stayed in his life. Imagine if a female character did what dead Y did, do you realise the backlash. I get it's a closure for the male lead YK but it also trashed his character. Just imagine if a female character did that...that's why I said misogynist 🤡😔

I agree. A female can never go to three men like they showed Yamac doing. 😡


I remember Kasauti ending. Prerna met only anurag in afterlife not bajaj. 😳


Originally posted by: music_girl


He loved deeply Efsun when he was in his darkest place, was ready to give up Cukur for her, stood up for her against his family, desperately held on her and was obsessed with her at the end of s3 and all the scenes we saw after time jump and those emotional dialogues. She understood him so well from the start since they were enemies. So she was the first person he saw and was ready to go anywhere with her as she was waiting for him. She lets him go to meet his love ones, as usual. He has deep respect and loves her so much - kissing her hand. I always found him have so much of respect for her even during s3 which he honestly lacked in his previous relationships. She is the only one wearing white besides him.

I loved Sena's character but not her and Yamac but it would make sense that he dies in Efsun's arms and leaves with Sena but not ending up with 3 women in the same house. Shame!

I loved EfYam's story. So beautifully written. Even though season 4 was complete torture, just loved Masal with them and Yamac's love for Efsun was so awesome. Love the song Haberin Yok. ❤️


They made a mockery of everything in the end. I'll imagine the dinner scene as the last one


Originally posted by: music_girl

Nehir was friendship, gratitude and the kid they had. Only today I realised how much Hazal's potential was wasted with that triangle just like Damla's but Damla had more scenes with range so you never felt it. I loved Hazal so much in this episode.

Sena was guilt and love. He still had that guilt 💔I didn't mind it actually cos i always saw it like that. They were young and hopeful, she wouldn't have been able to cope to his dark side cos she wasn't mentally strong enough and he never gave her much time to her as Cukur was his priority at that point of his life.

ArDam has sizzling chemistry and an amazing bond off screen also 😆 I loved them singing in the gala now I can see lots of difference 😆 you know what I mean they are complementary really 💥💫

Hazal's character could have been independent and not just a baby delivery girl.

Sena was betrayed by dying for Idris's sins. Totally not worth her life 🥺

@bold: What difference? Height difference? 😆


Originally posted by: music_girl

Then his brothers, his father, Celo, Aksin, Nedret, everyone... a tribute I didn't mind but very lame please. No proper scenes for the brothers 🥺

Alico was by his side but was already in the Kovo afterlife.

Murtaza living his best life 😆

Vartolu and Kahraman please 🤣🤣 That's why I wasn't too upset like what the heck dude

Idris and Sultan

It should have been a dream but it was weird to see all dead people having dinner 🤓

V-K and their eye lock 🤣

Idris did not get to see his Meliha and Mihriban 🤣


Originally posted by: music_girl

The brothers montage was good. It was the brothers and Idris. It was always the YK, his brothers, Efyam and Masal then the rest for me.

Oner was back. I was so glad when I saw his name on the screen. Selim had hairs when he died though 😆

As I said the whole thing was crap and I hated it. I preferred a tragic ending over this. I also hated those triangles that would leave a bad taste not just Y but Celo also and we know it wasn't like that.

They wanted to do a tribute but it looks more like trolling 😆

Selim went bald afterlife for may be Cemil's wish. 🤣

Idris became plump. They gave him lots of food up 🤣

Celo was like that only. Always wanted both the sisters 🤪😆

Originally posted by: music_girl

I watched this show for the 4 brothers and it's sad that the remaining ones didn't have an iconic and epic ending. Even a character like YK. Forget ships, but this was very disappointing. I preferred Sahram offing Cumali atleast but not in the least episode.

Such a lame ending for such a iconic show. Aras, Necip, Erkan, Burak and Damla Sonmez deserved better than this shitty ending. ❤️ They had iconic characters which will always be special to me. Add Oner to the list that makes it the most memorable characters and developed ones due to their arcs and backstories.

People are discussing who he chose and what not. Very disturbing and if everyone see the bigger picture they will find it disrespectful to the actors. Already seeing the drama of the production company anyway.

I loved the actors but the end was disappointing 🥺

YaSen endgame, EfYam endgame 🤣

For me, Yamac ended up with his bros as that's more respectful towards my favorite character 😆


Originally posted by: music_girl

No one won in this ending. Not the actors who worked hard for 4/3/2 years on this and their characters. A huge disrespect to the actors for me such as A, E, N, DS. Look at how Akin was introduced to what he became. Only the production house and the writer won and it's sad seeing how much hardwork the cast did. People remember the end and this was so lame.

The writer clearly gave up writing. The best piece of these last episodes were the trauma scene in the cell/cage.

I'm glad the show ended before it got trashed more ✌ the afterlife was too stupid for me but I'll prefer the end to be the dinner.

I wish we saw more of the babies and their parents but the ending sucked.

I actually preferred a red dinner btw than that 😆 see you somewhere around if we watch a new dizi ✌✌


I'm also happy it ended. They would have shown worse things if it hadn't 😆

Wanted to see bond of Masal-Yamac jr. 🥺

Nice talking to you. See you too in a new dizi 😊

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: roni_berna

I found Gala all over the place. They just had 3 performances and 2 minute BTS. So disappointing. 😒


I'm used to award shows having so much content so this was just below my expectations 😆



I did not want a tragic end but after they ended it this way, tragic may have been better maybe 😭


They showed two endings for me: Yamac dying young, Yamac dying old.

I don't like both but rather wanted to see Yamac living and then the four brothers in their old-age and talking about Cukur as the finale. Not Yamac dying at 80 😆

All the dialogues shown in these 3 last episodes had no meaning. 🥺


Akin did not tell his truth and they showed his sister and mother paying for his sins

Meliha's secret may be what cumali amca told Sahran but it was so empty. Why was he in love with Sultan then?

Had so many expectations but Gokhan ruined it 😭



I love love love Murtaza in this entire episode ❤️

Even liked N-E scene more than the ending and whatever nonsense I saw in those 2.5 hours 😆

1. As I said, Yamac died both times. Young by drowning - one ending, Old age and then he meets his family - second ending. Both mean Yamac dies while the first one shows Ayse-Yamac die and amca takes over while Cumali commits suicide. Second one shows everybody dead 🤣

2. They should have shown this Nehir since the start. She used to go on-and-on to talk about Yamac and him cheating on her but she finally realized he loved Efsun. Felt bad for her but knew there would be Sultan-Mihriban devaju. However, Efsun was never like Sultan and Yamac loved and never cheated on her like Idris did.

Hazal-Damla were good❤️



I was amazed by Murtaza's acting and character and just loved and adored him. He saved Yamac, committed sui*cide with his love in his arms ❤️Just loved it.


Drowning was shown how he dies like Sena but that was just one ending while the other one was him dying after his brothers and leaving the second generation with Masal and all.



3. Loved Efsun scolding him. People got angry but I liked it as Yamac needed those slaps for running towards his death 😆Reminded me of how Sena gave back to Cumali and Selim and then when Yamac ran away from the hospital, she insulted Idris 🤣


4. Wasn't much happy with Sahram and amca's end as it was just too easy. 4 people succeeded without Cukur and plans but they lost the maximum number of family members due to these two. How?🤔

5. Salim was clever



Efsun telling Sultan that she'll have to pay for her sins 🤔

Efsun telling Yamac that they'll either live or die together 🤔

Yamac mentioning his river or beach dream as the end 🤔

Meliha telling Yamac about Kocavali siblings kil*ling each other 🤔

I also became a clown thinking all this would be shown in the last episode but never 🐷



I liked Alico-Seher and how she silenced him 😆

Kids never played together but off screen they did 😆


I don't like Gokhan. All dying of old age and Yamac in any case dying was never a good ending for me 😆

Like why will I watch a movie or show where I'll see my favorite character ending up old and dying and meeting his family members who are also all dead 🤣

Dooms' day in Kocavali house where Saadet is still cooking and men are drinking. Did not know ghosts could drink and click pictures 🤣


Efsun, Sena and Nehir....Yamac ended up with all three 🤣


I agree. A female can never go to three men like they showed Yamac doing. 😡


I remember Kasauti ending. Prerna met only anurag in afterlife not bajaj. 😳


I loved Sena's character but not her and Yamac but it would make sense that he dies in Efsun's arms and leaves with Sena but not ending up with 3 women in the same house. Shame!

I loved EfYam's story. So beautifully written. Even though season 4 was complete torture, just loved Masal with them and Yamac's love for Efsun was so awesome. Love the song Haberin Yok. ❤️


They made a mockery of everything in the end. I'll imagine the dinner scene as the last one


Hazal's character could have been independent and not just a baby delivery girl.

Sena was betrayed by dying for Idris's sins. Totally not worth her life 🥺

@bold: What difference? Height difference? 😆


It should have been a dream but it was weird to see all dead people having dinner 🤓

V-K and their eye lock 🤣

Idris did not get to see his Meliha and Mihriban 🤣


Selim went bald afterlife for may be Cemil's wish. 🤣

Idris became plump. They gave him lots of food up 🤣

Celo was like that only. Always wanted both the sisters 🤪😆

I loved the actors but the end was disappointing 🥺

YaSen endgame, EfYam endgame 🤣

For me, Yamac ended up with his bros as that's more respectful towards my favorite character 😆

I'm also happy it ended. They would have shown worse things if it hadn't 😆

Wanted to see bond of Masal-Yamac jr. 🥺

Nice talking to you. See you too in a new dizi 😊


But the Yamac dying young was so stupid man. It made no sense. How did he know about Ayse 😆 That's the only part I want to know.

Gokhan is blocking people on Twitter 😆 I loved it they are asking what was Meliha's secret.

That sequence of Haberin Yok was sooo tragically beautiful. That's why I said Efyam was endgame.

But it's up to fans to interpret.

From this scenario I see only Yasen fans happy. Everyone else was mostly disturbed. I was honestly. I found it insulting 😆 But the writer I swear some women must have hurt him badly.

Sena fans are happy thinking they are endgame forgetting that Y still had guilt just like Karaca's.

Nehir fans are happy that Nehir had a beautiful closure. Even I'm happy on that account.

Efsun fans are furious because they know the actor deserved better after continuously giving powerful performances in this season especially after time jump. I also find it disrespectful.

If some fans looked objectively, they would realise how bad this look there is nothing amazing in this end. 🤡

Not just to one actor but to the 3 brothers and their nephew.


I don't like the fact the 3 all them together. So yes, I think like he was ready to go anywhere with E but she told him to do a goodbye so he goes and sees everyone. A tribute and trolling at the same time. Very disturbing. I love the brothers shot since everything started with them.

None of the brothers had a good conversation.

Murtaza and Nehir did. Let that sink.

As I said before Idris was not worth the sacrifice but nobody realised it until season 4 when Salih couldn't bear the lost of Selim and bowed to Amca for a cleaner pit.


Hazal had so much of talent. I hate the writer more after the finale which was a joke and lame. Some online portals also said the same thing.

I meant ArDam. Difference in chemistry is visible though I love their height difference also.

In the end the ending is a disgrace to hard work of actors and all the audience. Such a disaster. For me it ended at the dinner table but the whole episode was a joke.

If we take season 4 itself, Haberin Yok is such an iconic scene, the Heyecani Yok and killing of Nizam, when Cumali shoots him, when Salih follows him and stays by his side, Selim's death (after last episode I'm glad he died, I always mad), Cumali's breakdown for Damla's miscarriage, Akin's guilt and breakdown on learning about how Y shot I. Ogeday's dark death...so many good points which the finale lacked.

I won't even start on Efsun because the finale was a disgrace both the characters E and Y. So much development and arc for E's character from ready to protect Y to living the same pain as him.

Efsun's love for Yamac >>> s3 and s4

Yamac's need for Efsun >>> s3 and s4

Yamac's love for Efsun >>> s4 were very beautiful.

Varyam and Yamali

How could they ruin the best and most beautiful thing of their show I wonder

I spent two hours in the episode thinking it was some Nolan-ish timeline 😆 Do you know how much my head hurt trying to figure what was the plot twist. Imagine my disappointment to the end.

The writer was a disappointment.

The final scene was shot weeks ago because I remember a young boy had shared photos with Hare, Perihan, Aras and Kubi.

Only persons who won are the production house and the writer who would have himself talked for days with people trying to figure what it meant. I find it very disgraceful and disturbing.

But I still wonder the writer who wrote such amazing dialogues for the brothers from the beginning all of 4 of them, such a deep and heartfelt love story for EfYam with so much detailed, so many unrevealed secrets and foreshadowing, showing Akin as super smart and cunning, wrote the last 3 episodes like that. He trolled his own hard work, the actors, the crew and the fans. Such a shame what could be considered a legend is now mocked for the last scene (and I'm glad because that's very misogynist and disturbing...people shouldn't ignore such thing... the only real loss here are firstly the fans then the actors). Honestly actors have to do their job, it's the profession. The one who suggested such a scene is messed up.

The show should have ended at the cafe scene.

Not a mockery of hard work and the script of 4 years.


Edit

I saw bts of Aras/Damla with the kids. Why couldn't the writer write something like this. There was one where Mila was telling him to jump and hit the door. So adorable.

Bts of the gala are more fun. There was one where they were dancing the halay.

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But the Yamac dying young was so stupid man. It made no sense. How did he know about Ayse 😆 That's the only part I want to know.

Gokhan is blocking people on Twitter 😆 I loved it they are asking what was Meliha's secret.

That sequence of Haberin Yok was sooo tragically beautiful. That's why I said Efyam was endgame.

But it's up to fans to interpret.

From this scenario I see only Yasen fans happy. Everyone else was mostly disturbed. I was honestly. I found it insulting 😆 But the writer I swear some women must have hurt him badly.

Sena fans are happy thinking they are endgame forgetting that Y still had guilt just like Karaca's.

Nehir fans are happy that Nehir had a beautiful closure. Even I'm happy on that account.

Efsun fans are furious because they know the actor deserved better after continuously giving powerful performances in this season especially after time jump. I also find it disrespectful.

If some fans looked objectively, they would realise how bad this look there is nothing amazing in this end. 🤡

Not just to one actor but to the 3 brothers and their nephew.


I don't like the fact the 3 all them together. So yes, I think like he was ready to go anywhere with E but she told him to do a goodbye so he goes and sees everyone. A tribute and trolling at the same time. Very disturbing. I love the brothers shot since everything started with them.

None of the brothers had a good conversation.

Murtaza and Nehir did. Let that sink.

As I said before Idris was not worth the sacrifice but nobody realised it until season 4 when Salih couldn't bear the lost of Selim and bowed to Amca for a cleaner pit.


Hazal had so much of talent. I hate the writer more after the finale which was a joke and lame. Some online portals also said the same thing.

I meant ArDam. Difference in chemistry is visible though I love their height difference also.

In the end the ending is a disgrace to hard work of actors and all the audience. Such a disaster. For me it ended at the dinner table but the whole episode was a joke.

If we take season 4 itself, Haberin Yok is such an iconic scene, the Heyecani Yok and killing of Nizam, when Cumali shoots him, when Salih follows him and stays by his side, Selim's death (after last episode I'm glad he died, I always mad), Cumali's breakdown for Damla's miscarriage, Akin's guilt and breakdown on learning about how Y shot I. Ogeday's dark death...so many good points which the finale lacked.

I won't even start on Efsun because the finale was a disgrace both the characters E and Y. So much development and arc for E's character from ready to protect Y to living the same pain as him.

Efsun's love for Yamac >>> s3 and s4

Yamac's need for Efsun >>> s3 and s4

Yamac's love for Efsun >>> s4 were very beautiful.

Varyam and Yamali

How could they ruin the best and most beautiful thing of their show I wonder

I spent two hours in the episode thinking it was some Nolan-ish timeline 😆 Do you know how much my head hurt trying to figure what was the plot twist. Imagine my disappointment to the end.

The writer was a disappointment.

The final scene was shot weeks ago because I remember a young boy had shared photos with Hare, Perihan, Aras and Kubi.

Only persons who won are the production house and the writer who would have himself talked for days with people trying to figure what it meant. I find it very disgraceful and disturbing.

But I still wonder the writer who wrote such amazing dialogues for the brothers from the beginning all of 4 of them, such a deep and heartfelt love story for EfYam with so much detailed, so many unrevealed secrets and foreshadowing, showing Akin as super smart and cunning, wrote the last 3 episodes like that. He trolled his own hard work, the actors, the crew and the fans. Such a shame what could be considered a legend is now mocked for the last scene (and I'm glad because that's very misogynist and disturbing...people shouldn't ignore such thing... the only real loss here are firstly the fans then the actors). Honestly actors have to do their job, it's the profession. The one who suggested such a scene is messed up.

The show should have ended at the cafe scene.

Not a mockery of hard work and the script of 4 years.


Edit

I saw bts of Aras/Damla with the kids. Why couldn't the writer write something like this. There was one where Mila was telling him to jump and hit the door. So adorable.

Bts of the gala are more fun. There was one where they were dancing the halay.


The first ending was with Cumali jr shooting himself. It meant, Ayse and Yamac did die that day. It wasn't anyone's dream but a possible conclusion. Yamac dies of drowning despite Murtaza's attempt to save his life. The same day Ayse died while kil*ling amca. Amca lives and takes the kids hostage and the Kocavalis are forced again to live with him like before. Cumali can't bear amca so sho*ots himself.


The second ending begins with Yamac surviving and breathing again.


Gokhan should have disappeared from social media.


The ending was neither happy nor sad but confusing 😆 Like someone dies - sad ending, someone lives-happy ending. If all die at 70-80, I'm lost 😆


I seriously can't get YaSen fans being happy about it. Yamac did not leave Efsun nor Nehir but is living with them too along with Sena 😆 He left Sena's hand too. 😆 They bashed Yamac left and right for being with Efsun and now the same Yamac is with Sena and it's so good 🤣


Aras nor Damla posted anything on their profile and I'm wondering why 😆


If you give the characters certain dialogues, we can expect something like that to happen. If those dialogues and scenes mean nothing, why are they even shown


I'm not so upset of him ending with three women but him dying and the afterlife being an end with them showing absolutely nothing about their life. The actors who shared their opinion of the ending must have cursed the writer for giving such an ending. Ezel had a so much better ending. Even Godfather did have a meaningful end.


I want to erase the last 18 minutes of the episode 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: roni_berna




I seriously can't get YaSen fans being happy about it. Yamac did not leave Efsun nor Nehir but is living with them too along with Sena 😆 He left Sena's hand too. 😆 They bashed Yamac left and right for being with Efsun and now the same Yamac is with Sena and it's so good 🤣


Aras nor Damla posted anything on their profile and I'm wondering why 😆


If you give the characters certain dialogues, we can expect something like that to happen. If those dialogues and scenes mean nothing, why are they even shown


I'm not so upset of him ending with three women but him dying and the afterlife being an end with them showing absolutely nothing about their life. The actors who shared their opinion of the ending must have cursed the writer for giving such an ending. Ezel had a so much better ending. Even Godfather did have a meaningful end.


I want to erase the last 18 minutes of the episode 😆

I have no idea how these Sena fans think. 😆 They are delusional to be happy with such an ending.


As I said if same thing was done for a female character, people would have reacted differently.


I'm disappointed for everything. Like ruining the characters that was built for 4/3/2 years. Hardwork of actors.

This lame finale undermined their hardwork... what could be a benchmark totally tanked like the titanic. If you see up to Emmi's death and Celo/Karaca burial the script despite being dragged was pretty solid. It went downhill from there. Promotions, commercials, empty dialogues, foreshadowing cancelled, dialogues from season 1,2,3 having no meaning. Completely ignoring the pain and trauma Efyam went during 3 years, completely ignoring Cumali's character graph, inserting random characters to waste time, destroying VarYam and Salih.

Sharam was hyped as a twd character with his bat and all, badass music. He barely had time. Spoilers said Cumali and Salih death scenes were being filmed 2 weeks back, nothing happened. I do feel drama happened or maybe something definitely happen with the company.

I don't know what I'm not going to speculate or bud my own theories. But things are wrong.

Erkan only thanked the cast. So did Burak. Necip who loved his character so much, every time thanked his luck for playing Cumali didn't post goodbye, Damla who gave a heartfelt interview on her character which was published on her birthday didn't post anything, Aras who worked so hard so 4 years didn't...

Even Riza didn't. As much as Alico annoyed me lately it was a difficult and outstanding character of the show.

but they wished Burak on his birthday they were active so...

Aras didn't post. Damla didn't post.

Unfollowing drama going on 😆

I think they changed the script also because many scenes were shot like 2 weeks back but did not air. A lot of fans are saying this, brothers fans, neutral fans not only efyamers.


It can be seen Amca and Sahram's death were rushed...

It's just sad and disappointing. I want to erase the ending from my mind too. It was really a show I had so much expectations from now what will I answer when someone asks me how the show ended 🤣


I ask myself how did the cast react when they read the old y reviving as young y script

Dude what about those who filmed it 🤣


Edit

They released a longer version of the kamera arkssi lol 🤣🤣 I thoroughly enjoyed it better than the finale

Edited by music_girl - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: music_girl

I have no idea how these Sena fans think. 😆 They are delusional to be happy with such an ending.


As I said if same thing was done for a female character, people would have reacted differently.


I'm disappointed for everything. Like ruining the characters that was built for 4/3/2 years. Hardwork of actors.

This lame finale undermined their hardwork... what could be a benchmark totally tanked like the titanic. If you see up to Emmi's death and Celo/Karaca burial the script despite being dragged was pretty solid. It went downhill from there. Promotions, commercials, empty dialogues, foreshadowing cancelled, dialogues from season 1,2,3 having no meaning. Completely ignoring the pain and trauma Efyam went during 3 years, completely ignoring Cumali's character graph, inserting random characters to waste time, destroying VarYam and Salih.

Sharam was hyped as a twd character with his bat and all, badass music. He barely had time. Spoilers said Cumali and Salih death scenes were being filmed 2 weeks back, nothing happened. I do feel drama happened or maybe something definitely happen with the company.

I don't know what I'm not going to speculate or bud my own theories. But things are wrong.

Erkan only thanked the cast. So did Burak. Necip who loved his character so much, every time thanked his luck for playing Cumali didn't post goodbye, Damla who gave a heartfelt interview on her character which was published on her birthday didn't post anything, Aras who worked so hard so 4 years didn't...

Even Riza didn't. As much as Alico annoyed me lately it was a difficult and outstanding character of the show.

but they wished Burak on his birthday they were active so...

Aras didn't post. Damla didn't post.

Unfollowing drama going on 😆

I think they changed the script also because many scenes were shot like 2 weeks back but did not air. A lot of fans are saying this, brothers fans, neutral fans not only efyamers.


It can be seen Amca and Sahram's death were rushed...

It's just sad and disappointing. I want to erase the ending from my mind too. It was really a show I had so much expectations from now what will I answer when someone asks me how the show ended 🤣


I ask myself how did the cast react when they read the old y reviving as young y script

Dude what about those who filmed it 🤣


Edit

They released a longer version of the kamera arkssi lol 🤣🤣 I thoroughly enjoyed it better than the finale


I loved the camera bts a lot 🤣 The way Necip jumped and said "Karaca is calling" 🤣


Gokhan is blocking all the viewers 🤣 Poor fellow. I don't think it was his idea as he writes only tragic stuff 😆


I noticed that many were disappointed and even general viewers. They are busy asking what was the secret. 😆


The three years leap was a waste. Why take a leap and then take a 50-year leap again 🤪


Now rumors that the cast separated from Ay Yapim 😆


Drama continues. smiley36

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: roni_berna


I loved the camera bts a lot 🤣 The way Necip jumped and said "Karaca is calling" 🤣

Gokhan is blocking all the viewers 🤣 Poor fellow. I don't think it was his idea as he writes only tragic stuff 😆

I noticed that many were disappointed and even general viewers. They are busy asking what was the secret. 😆

The three years leap was a waste. Why take a leap and then take a 50-year leap again 🤪

Now rumors that the cast separated from Ay Yapim 😆

Drama continues. smiley36

The drama continues, isn't it..

Nobody posts anything then Burak, Hare and Perihan did.

Everyone has the same line, bland and obviously shading 😆 Hare and the heart emoji 🤣 Erkan also was funny and Necip also shared the brothers picture, commented something on Cem's photo (Metin)

Then the trends drama which made Damla post a "story" otherwise she wouldn't cos she had posted other things.

You saw that clip from the showtv comedy thing. It made me so annoyed 🤔 okay, even I said about the 3 women thing and didn't like it so did many people on Twitter but then everyone moves on right...

But that comedy show and how the portrayed Yamac 😡 I hope the production house feel the wrath of so many people. Some people who occasionally tune in and just watche d the finale what would they think

Fans can remember the good parts but the show has been made a mockery solely on the finale. 🥺

Someone who portrayed so many difficult scenes deserved better. That episode 23 of S4 alone is a proof of hardwork and dedication.

Yamac's end should have been iconic, epic along with his brothers, not discussing who he loved or how he used E as a "companion" for life. Those who said that should rewatch s3 and s4 especially after the time jump.

I hate it really how the writer and the production messed everything for someone who gave back to back powerful performances.

Yamac, Cumali and Vartolu deserved better. Rumours have it that they had shoot their death scenes. There was even lots of spoilers. People will remember Murtaza or Selim amongst the men 🤪😆 Murtaza?

Now I know the ending wasn't that. It changed because of so many shading and justification. Haberin Yok, Heyecani Yok of S4E27 / S4E37, Gonder Gelsin S4E15 were better scenes than the last fight scene which was very underwhelming.

I'm pretty sure not only the brothers' , Efsun's, Sultan's ending changed but Akin's also. It was always hinted that he was better than his uncles thus fit for leading.

A writer who wrote this dialogue for Celo and Karaca in s4

Karaca: Go, i'll follow you shortly after

Celo died choking so did K, and they were burried same place. So many dialogues were foreshadowing and had a meaning

Aras, Erkan, Necip, Burak and Damla S deserved better especially for giving always powerful and iconic performances in this show. 🥺

Gokhan's tweets were a justification. He couldn't defend his story so the arrogant man started telling about his hardship. Okay, sad for him, hope he gets better but the 3 last episodes still sucked.😈😈

The photographer getting bullied because he posted a picture. Oh dear lord, he was actually doing his job properly and all week he posted pictures, there was even Murtaza and Ayse 🤪🤪


I'm glad the production company knows they messed up. The shade and silence from the actors are a sign anyway.


Edit 1

A finally posted. After a week but I loved his post.

But good justification why he waited a week though... I don't believe it but who cares, I felt sad reading his post

What documentary he is talking about? I don't want a documentary I want to move on 😆 Maybe the will explain the finale, please no, let it remain a bad memory that we will all forget 😆

How will they do a documentary when all the casts have new project? I know Necip, Erkan, Oner and Damla have. I'm guessing Burak also will be signing something soon. So... who is going to talk in the documentary...?

If there is one which I hope is better than the gala, I hope there are all actors in it.


Edit 2

You saw the long version of the gala which was still cut. I see a talented cast wasted.

Erkan, Burak, Aras and Gamze are such a mood lol 🤣🤣

With that being said, these talented actors (A, N, E, O, B and DS) should always play multi layered characters because they excel at it and they have range. Even Irem A and Gamze D were amazing. So many wasted talents 🥺 Why? Why

I guess ay yapim is trying to do damage control.

Edited by music_girl - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Any summer dizis worth watching?

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: music_girl

The drama continues, isn't it..

Nobody posts anything then Burak, Hare and Perihan did.

Everyone has the same line, bland and obviously shading 😆 Hare and the heart emoji 🤣 Erkan also was funny and Necip also shared the brothers picture, commented something on Cem's photo (Metin)

Then the trends drama which made Damla post a "story" otherwise she wouldn't cos she had posted other things.

You saw that clip from the showtv comedy thing. It made me so annoyed 🤔 okay, even I said about the 3 women thing and didn't like it so did many people on Twitter but then everyone moves on right...

But that comedy show and how the portrayed Yamac 😡 I hope the production house feel the wrath of so many people. Some people who occasionally tune in and just watche d the finale what would they think

Fans can remember the good parts but the show has been made a mockery solely on the finale. 🥺

Someone who portrayed so many difficult scenes deserved better. That episode 23 of S4 alone is a proof of hardwork and dedication.

Yamac's end should have been iconic, epic along with his brothers, not discussing who he loved or how he used E as a "companion" for life. Those who said that should rewatch s3 and s4 especially after the time jump.

I hate it really how the writer and the production messed everything for someone who gave back to back powerful performances.

Yamac, Cumali and Vartolu deserved better. Rumours have it that they had shoot their death scenes. There was even lots of spoilers. People will remember Murtaza or Selim amongst the men 🤪😆 Murtaza?

Now I know the ending wasn't that. It changed because of so many shading and justification. Haberin Yok, Heyecani Yok of S4E27 / S4E37, Gonder Gelsin S4E15 were better scenes than the last fight scene which was very underwhelming.

I'm pretty sure not only the brothers' , Efsun's, Sultan's ending changed but Akin's also. It was always hinted that he was better than his uncles thus fit for leading.

A writer who wrote this dialogue for Celo and Karaca in s4

Karaca: Go, i'll follow you shortly after

Celo died choking so did K, and they were burried same place. So many dialogues were foreshadowing and had a meaning

Aras, Erkan, Necip, Burak and Damla S deserved better especially for giving always powerful and iconic performances in this show. 🥺

Gokhan's tweets were a justification. He couldn't defend his story so the arrogant man started telling about his hardship. Okay, sad for him, hope he gets better but the 3 last episodes still sucked.😈😈

The photographer getting bullied because he posted a picture. Oh dear lord, he was actually doing his job properly and all week he posted pictures, there was even Murtaza and Ayse 🤪🤪


I'm glad the production company knows they messed up. The shade and silence from the actors are a sign anyway.


Edit 1

A finally posted. After a week but I loved his post.

But good justification why he waited a week though... I don't believe it but who cares, I felt sad reading his post

What documentary he is talking about? I don't want a documentary I want to move on 😆 Maybe the will explain the finale, please no, let it remain a bad memory that we will all forget 😆

How will they do a documentary when all the casts have new project? I know Necip, Erkan, Oner and Damla have. I'm guessing Burak also will be signing something soon. So... who is going to talk in the documentary...?

If there is one which I hope is better than the gala, I hope there are all actors in it.


Edit 2

You saw the long version of the gala which was still cut. I see a talented cast wasted.

Erkan, Burak, Aras and Gamze are such a mood lol 🤣🤣

With that being said, these talented actors (A, N, E, O, B and DS) should always play multi layered characters because they excel at it and they have range. Even Irem A and Gamze D were amazing. So many wasted talents 🥺 Why? Why

I guess ay yapim is trying to do damage control.


Glad Aras posted his goodbye message else it would be odd that he loved his character so much but did not post a farewell message. Waiting for the documentary if it's true.


The gala again was cut. :(


Uc Kurus looks interesting and since Gokhan isn't writing it, it shouldn't be as tragic as Cukur. The serial kil*ler concept is my favorite 😆


I hope they cast proper actors and don't have love triangles again to create a chaos. So many names are being rumored like Ibo, Aras, Damla, Neslihan. Waiting for it.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: roni_berna


Glad Aras posted his goodbye message else it would be odd that he loved his character so much but did not post a farewell message. Waiting for the documentary if it's true.


The gala again was cut. :(


Uc Kurus looks interesting and since Gokhan isn't writing it, it shouldn't be as tragic as Cukur. The serial kil*ler concept is my favorite 😆


I hope they cast proper actors and don't have love triangles again to create a chaos. So many names are being rumored like Ibo, Aras, Damla, Neslihan. Waiting for it.

Uc Kurus is with Damla Serin. She will write love quadrilaterals I swear 🤣

Many prefer Gokhan over Damla Serin 🤪

Ibrahim is doing a Netflix series with Birce 😊 They are one fire couple, aren't they? Loved them in Siya Beyaz except the show got dragged and boring afterwards

Damla Sonmez will be shooting for Saygi soon with might be around 2 months. Aras, I hope and pray he doesn't work with Ay Yapim again. They are undeserving of his talent.


Uc Kurus has Uraz. I hope he and Nesli get paired, they were amazing as friends in Sefirin Kızı. But there has to be atleast 3-4 leads, so don't know.


I tried watching these summer dizis. I couldn't sit through one hour without skipping 🤣


I watched Ada Masali. It was so colourful, bright, cheerful, happiness I was so unused to this. Nobody got killed, tortured, kidnapped, abused in one episode, it felt so strange... really strange 😆 I have to admit I got a bit bored I'm not used to this. The leads are really good, the chemistry is superb, it's just the story hasn't impressed me yet.


There's one with Bensu and Kubi, I haven't tried that yet.

Burcu has a new show. I loved Afili Ask, maybe the only romcom I ever watched till 30 episodes, I might try this as soon as i find subs. I liked the male lead, I saw him in Ramo, he is good.

Cemre B also has a new show Baht Oyunu if I'm not wrong. I tried watching this also, it's funny like I watched 30 mins, but I'm pretty sure I won't continue watching this unless the story is solid.


When will the action/mystery/triller/dark dizis start? 🤪


Any recommendations for dizis? I tried Teskilat, watched 6 episodes so far, it's really good but isn't gripping enough for me.

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Originally posted by: music_girl

Uc Kurus is with Damla Serin. She will write love quadrilaterals I swear 🤣

Many prefer Gokhan over Damla Serin 🤪

Ibrahim is doing a Netflix series with Birce 😊 They are one fire couple, aren't they? Loved them in Siya Beyaz except the show got dragged and boring afterwards

Damla Sonmez will be shooting for Saygi soon with might be around 2 months. Aras, I hope and pray he doesn't work with Ay Yapim again. They are undeserving of his talent.


Uc Kurus has Uraz. I hope he and Nesli get paired, they were amazing as friends in Sefirin Kızı. But there has to be atleast 3-4 leads, so don't know.


I tried watching these summer dizis. I couldn't sit through one hour without skipping 🤣


I watched Ada Masali. It was so colourful, bright, cheerful, happiness I was so unused to this. Nobody got killed, tortured, kidnapped, abused in one episode, it felt so strange... really strange 😆 I have to admit I got a bit bored I'm not used to this. The leads are really good, the chemistry is superb, it's just the story hasn't impressed me yet.


There's one with Bensu and Kubi, I haven't tried that yet.

Burcu has a new show. I loved Afili Ask, maybe the only romcom I ever watched till 30 episodes, I might try this as soon as i find subs. I liked the male lead, I saw him in Ramo, he is good.

Cemre B also has a new show Baht Oyunu if I'm not wrong. I tried watching this also, it's funny like I watched 30 mins, but I'm pretty sure I won't continue watching this unless the story is solid.


When will the action/mystery/triller/dark dizis start? 🤪


Any recommendations for dizis? I tried Teskilat, watched 6 episodes so far, it's really good but isn't gripping enough for me.


I know love triangles and all will be there but atleast nobody will keep dyi*ng without any reason 😆

Also, I liked the end of the love triangle 😆


Wanted Ibo for the serial ki**er role but they'll cast someone else 🥺


I want to see Uraz too but don't know if it's confirmed. Would love to see him and Neslihan too. Hated SK show and Sancar's character and the way they destroyed Gediz's character.


I'm not so into summer dizis. Ada Masali is spoken about a lot but looking at the ratings, don't think it will last long. Might watch it as the chemistry is good but only after it completes 15+ episodes so that it has some story and is not rushed.


Not fond of Kubi and can't see him as the lead character. He looks quite young still.


From mafia shows, I loved Ezel, Karadayi, Kuzey Guney, Icerde. From comedy shows, I loved Bizim Hikaye. Kara Sevda, Ask-i-memnu, Halil ve Menekshe, Cesur ve Guzel are good too. I watched Fatma and it was awesome. Finished Vincenzo and that was good too.


I am going to try Seref Meselesi, Undercover (Korean show) and am currently watching Gullerin Savasi which is good, Camdaki Kiz, Masumlar Apartment, Sadakatsiz, Teskilat and Marasli (although it's boring).


Am switching between shows and movies (mafia movies of Al Pacino and Rober de Nero).

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