The hands you take and the hands you leave version 2 part 91in page86 - Page 11

Mangothyme, u put in my thoughts exactly wrt Anami. Earlier also, I agreed about Adhi-Anami relation. And guys, many of u think that Anami needs redemption. But as Mangothyme put it correctly, how can u expect it? For 17 years she was abandoned. She had questions. If u recollect early episodes, she used to come home crying from school, about how she was made fun of. She is a teenager. Imagine yourselves in her position. She was ridiculed by society for no fault of hers. But a stigma attached to her. As adults also our egos when hurt, go into revenge mode; in that age any child will have questions about itself; that growing up; that ego. She was battered. And as Mangothyme put it correctly, everytime it was her foster parents who supported her; who loved her unconditionally; those smaal scoldings; those feelings of pain empathised with her by them especially Madhu was well etched. So she had a natural anger over her mother. But she started believing her when Ladoo was kidnapped. And that trust broke yesterday by Sat's confession. What had Sat done in the past 17 years? She literally forgot Anami existed. It was only after Vat's death when Guruji reminded her of her daughter, and coaxed and goaded by him she went to Benaras. It is to her credit that initially she was hesitant. But when Guruji told her that Anami was her mirror image that the first signs of meltdown started. But the manner in which she dragged Anami out of Pathks' house was cruel. Same with keeping Ladoo.

Originally posted by: moonwearer

In one earlier analysis Shruthi had mentioned that Gayathri was directing Satrupa. She tells her to forget Anami is her daughter and do what is necessary. In the recent episodes she has sensed something is amiss and Satrupa is restless. She warns her not to estrange Anami and that she would not be forgiven if she does that.

The need that prompted Satrupa to keep Ladoo in the guest house is Anami. The need acceptance.she justifies that it is to make Sudha falter but it is her need which is driving the action.

She is her playful self only with Ladoo.it is very painful to all the time be on your guard and do only what is expected of you. When none sense her need to listen to her pain. If a box with the baby socks intended for her little girl can act as a speed breaker in her rage the extent to which the remorse can weigh should be brou out.

Anami everytime questions if she would have gone to fetch her if vatsalya was around.

Satrupa has to answer that to herself. In the 17 years she never seems to have once remembered her. I know of mother's who remember even miscarriage s and think of the child the lost foetus would have been so how can a mother not recall a child she gave away. What is it that caused her amnesia?

She did not take anyone other than Damu into confidence .she interpreted the gurujis direction in a way that suited her. It must be staged away somewhere in her heart. That reason must be brought out. Satrupa s pain and guilt over what she did then needs to be brought out not merely the manifestation of what she did now in her bid to buy time to bond with Anami. That is what will be the redemption. That will make her pain relatable that would make us see the Satrupa she is not the one she presents to the world outside. The indifferent RS and LM spokesperson.

The reason why Satrupa is unable to answer the question if Anami was recalled due to Vatsalyas death is because she is unable to face reality. She did not remember she had a daughter based on what we have seen. If the longing is mutual then there might be some understanding. So far from what she has seen Anami has got the feel she is dispensible. To the Pathaks she is  Indispensible an integral part of their life.

@Simran I had clearly told earlier also Satrupa the LM bahu cannot win. If she was LM bahu she would have justified her actions with Sudha. But that would have meant yesterday would have been the last episode I would watched of RKC because then I was going to watch the over glorified bahus running in one soap to other. 

Originally posted by: Mangothyme

The question that comes up again and again in this serial. What is a good mother ?

Briefly read through posts. I strongly disagree that Anami has to be the one that needs to come running to Satrupa for redemption. No, for me it's Satrupa that needs redemption. Let's go right back to the beginning.

Anami was happy in Benaras. She was a much loved daughter. But she always has an emptiness on her birthday for 17 years. She feels guilty for that. She says her life was perfect but for that. Anami has a mother, Panditayen. A loving mother, a hands on mother, a sacrificial one who loves her unconditionally. She did not care Anami was adopted. she did not care she was not her own, she loved her because Anami exists. More importantly she loved Anami the same even after Ladoo was born. She did not sacrifice Anami for one minute, did make her feel different even after a child who Panditayen probably prayed years for was born. That is the definition of a good mother.  Anami is loved by such a mother. She will not accept anything less. That is why Anami still wears the clothes stitched by Panditayen. The weird, unfashionable clothes when tempted by gorgeous, designer ones. Anami's life will be so much easier if she could just give in and accept all that the heir of LM is entitled to. She will get wealth, clothes, jewels, land. Who knows what ? One could even argue Anami can help the Pandits more if she accepts the hand on LM. But she does not. Why ? Stubbornness ? Pride ? No, it is love, love of parents who took her in when they had nothing, who got nothing from LM for raising her. Who raised her as their own with infinite love. Anami's zid is because her parents are the Pandits. To become the heir of LM would mean ceasing to be the child of the Pandits and Anami cannot do that. Avdoot has loving parents too. But he was willing to give up all that for being the LM heir. Pandits were willing to go to jail or leave their life in Benaras in order to be a family with Anami. That is love. That is a family. Ladoo's life would be sacrificed for Anami, but they never differentiated between their biological child and foster one. Families stick together, that's what they do. A child raised with so much love like Anami was will never accept anything less. I cannot connect a lot of times with Anami. Her zid, stupidity, impulsiveness. But I connect so much with the way she loves the Pandits and how they love her.

Satrupa does not love like that. I have enormous sympathy for Satrupa. She may have had a valid reason to give Anami up. She did not want to. She might have spent 17 years burning inside for her daughter too. But reality is she abandoned her. Even now it is all Anami, Anami, Anami. When she prepares the tray, it is what Anami likes. What about Ladoo ? Satrupa has had a bad life. People use her. Baldev does not care for her. She yearns for Anami's love. Anami is rude to her, does not let her in. But nothing excuses Satrupa putting Ladoo in danger for Anami's love. Nothing. I don't care how much Satrupa yearns for Anami. There is absolutely no excuse for what she did to Ladoo. All the material goods in the world does not excuse that. Satrupa does not know the meaning of what a mother is, Anami is right there. A good mother will not sacrifice someone else's child for her own child's love. That's what Sudha does. She sacrifices others for her selfish reasons. Motive and intent does not matter here. A good person does not sacrifice others for their selfish reasons and a good mother, never. One of the traits of a sociopath is even if they have a conscience it is weak. Satrupa's  conscience failed her then. Her sociopathic tendencies took over, the LM Bahu took over. A mother would never put another child in danger for her own selfish reasons. 

Personal tragedies in our own lives do not ever excuse bad behavior on our part. I cannot excuse such behavior in RL or in fictional stories. The redemption Satrupa needs to do is towards the Pandits. For having ingratitude towards them, for threatening them, for never once saying thank you, for taking both their children from them.  The day she is grateful towards the Pandits is the day she will stop harming Ladoo in any way. Then she will Anami's love. Until then Satrupa does not deserve to be called Mom by Anami even if her life is one big tragedy.

Anami has lots of growing up to do. I do not excuse what she did. But in this she is right to me. 

Edited by Ardhanarishwara - 6 years ago

@Shruthi, Mango- I expected the ruthless business woman in Sat to turn the mess she has created to her advantage.
I felt it was bit sudden that she went all Maa and emotional.

Anami was thawing towards her, she could've slowly won over her.

More than redemption, i want them to understand each other. Both Satrupa & Anami had right questions.
"How long will you crucify me?"
"Would you have come for me if  the  LM heir was alive?"

I think, they both have no answer to each other's questions.For me it boils down to Anami forgiving Satrupa and Satrupa loving her for herself, not for her utility value as the heir or the replacement for her son.

Edited by simran_singh_24 - 6 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Simran I had clearly told earlier also Satrupa the LM bahu cannot win. If she was LM bahu she would have justified her actions with Sudha. But that would have meant yesterday would have been the last episode I would watched of RKC because then I was going to watch the over glorified bahus running in one soap to other. 

But she reacted emotionally and the truth came out . The truth which took her daughter away from her, but the same truth will bring back her daughter to her in true sense. She can win only as a mother. 

Now some told why Anami need redemption. Anami has to have a path crossing. She needs to understand why Satrupa did what she did. Both has to travel that path. Anami has to understand her mistake of bringing Sudha and Satrupa of course has to go to Pandithayen. Pandithayen only can bring Anami and Satrupa in the same plane and I feel she will bring. 

Anami told one thing you can build new relations destroying the old. That was what exactly LM did. They destroyed Sudha-Baldev and tried to build Baldev-Satrupa. They destroyed Dheeru- RS and tried to go ahead without him. 

But Anami forgets to build new things you have to let go of the past. There is no other way. Certain things in your life has to be accepted. And that acceptance cannot be brought by the way Satrupa is doing things. She needs to understand that. 

The problem in a relation happens because of both people. To solve it both have to leave their ego and bow their head a bit, stretch their hand a bit. Problem continues when  you think only the other person is wrong. Both Satrupa and Anami had done it. 

Yes Simran you put it rightly both need to understand each other and that question is important. 

Shruthi agree with you entirely. Anami is filled with prejudice against Satrupa.She might be right in her hatred to some extent. But she must also apply the wisdom that pandit Pathak  has given her.Her dadi and Adi also asked her to get to the truth by herself. She has not listened to any of them. She will understand the implications of her action only when she is faced with another kidnap like situation and Satrupa or Adi not being there to support her. 
Edited by usharanganathan - 6 years ago

Probably one shouldn't even compare episodes :) . After yesterday's brilliant episode, I was expecting fireworks which sadly fizzled out. Somethings stand out.