Negativity regarding Neil giving Juhi's child his name.

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@Tabsfully

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

i said I wasn't going to speculate 😆 BUT I've been seeing a lot of negativity about Neil claiming the child as his own. So whether he does or doesn't, the question remains:

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what is the issue people have if AvNeil were to take in Juhi's child as their own. Or give her their name? Or adopt her for that matter.

Is it that their relationship is not at the level at which this could happen?

is it that this child could strain their own marriage and cause marital issues/problems?

Is it that its Juhi's child. and why should AvNeil be responsible for it?

The entire show promotes and is all about relations that are unconventional. the blood is not thicker than water type relationships.

We have Neela Ma as a perfect example. She spent her entire life mothering Avni...and tried to mother Aman/Anmol the best she could too. I certainly wouldn't have a problem to see Avni be someone's Neela Ma. ...in fact, she would know best. having lost her mother and been raised by Neela.

Neil---when has he shied away from responsibilities? wouldn't he make the best father? He has Prakash has his role model...Prakash: the guy who married his dead best friend's fiancee so she wouldn't be alone. He didn't have to give Shweta his name, but he did.

so what would be wrong if Neil claimed the child as his own; given, that Avni knew about it. ...and Neil WILL tell avni about it...maybe when he thinks the time is right. but he will.

and this would be the perfect time for this track.

Naamkaran started with Little Avni fighting for her right to have her father acknowledge her. To have her Naamkaran. For her to be Avni Ashish Mehta. but along the way, she learned, what's in a name? Wouldn't a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. She became Avni Ayesha, then Avni Neil Khanna. Does it matter to her, nope. She still goes by Avni Ayesha. She has a loving husband who willingly claims her as his wife and makes sure she has all the rights a wife should have. But she still wants to called Avni Ayesha.

Daya on the other hand, for her naam and khandaan was everything. and that's what she tried to prove by taking Aman in, that because he hadn't taken Ayesha's milk, he was still pure. and could be brought up for she pleased. Well, in the end, the same Aman Ayesha discarded the Mehta surname and killed her.

Avni's fight was because this society thinks the lack of a proper surname is like a blackened face.

Daya is dead, her fight is over, because Avni won...she proved that what's in a name. it doesn't matter. if she's Avni Ayesha or Avni Mehta, she is who she is.

I think it would be a full circle to the story, if AvNeil give this girl their name...to prevent another Avni from having to fight for her right to a surname, Her parents (Avni-Neil) would have already fought her battle for her.

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subiaman

@subiaman

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Posted: 8 years ago

Personally, I dont have any issues with it as long as Avni is equal part in the decision process. That would be a good social message.

However, the selfish me would like to see a child of Neil and Avni being Neils first child :) thats just me being selfish! am not mahan like Avni. I want to see Neil and Avni go through that process of parenting for the first time with a child of their own. Avni has suffered enough in childhood and would love to see her having a "normal happy family"

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Tabassum

@Arieltabi

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Posted: 8 years ago

First AvNeil are not yet in a situation in their relationship to adopt a child. They haven't become husband-wife property yet. How will they become parents. Parenting is a big responsibility. Avneil still have so much to talk about themselves. A kid will take their whole attention from each other.

And The main theme of the show is How a daughter doesn't need a father's name to survive. Remember the promo Shadi se pehle pita ka aur shadi ke bad pati ka. Uska apna naam ka kya??. This show is how a girl doesn't need a husband or father's name her own name is enough. So why Juhi's child needs to have Neil's name.

As Subiaman says my selfish love for AvNeil wants their first child to be their own.

Plus I have a personal reason. Adopting a child is not as easy as it seems. Sometimes it can have very bad consequences. I have seen a girl who was adopted by her own uncle and aunt cause they could not have child. She was very much loved and pampered by all. But when she came to know about the truth she started hating both her birth parents for giving her away and her adopted parents for lying to her all this years. She was never be able to get over from this shock. She developed psychological problem. Still today she hasn't forgiven both her parents and had to take medicine or else her problem gets worse. And both of her parents are suffering and blaming themselves for her this condition.

Seeing her condition I m not too much fond of adoption. U never know how that child might react to this knowledge.

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Smitakshi Guha

@SimiSays

Sparkler

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Posted: 8 years ago

Avni's journey to seek a name from a father and Juhi's child here are two poles apart things.

Avni was the biological daughter of Ashish Mehta, a man who was alive, able, good, but a spineless soul who could not stand up for his love and daughter.

She had 100% right to seek his last name.

Here, we are not even sure that Neil is the biological father of Juhi's daughter.

Why should Neil give the girl his name, when Juhi is still alive and sufficient to take care of her own daughter?

She is a mature adult, who doesn't suffer from any mental or physical disorder, so WHY does Neil have to step in and give his name to her daughter?

Just because she is his ex, and he has a guilt trip of not being able to save her in the past? It doesn't connect, to be honest.

Like I wrote in another post, why is it even important for a child to have a father's name, when s/he doesn't have one alive or the one s/he has, refuses to take the responsibility of him/her?

Isn't a mother enough?

Doesn't she have the prime right on her child after carrying it for 9 months?

The story here, like you said, is, what's in a name?

Exactly!

Then why does NEIL have to give his name to Juhi's child?

Why is Juhi's own name not enough for her little girl?

As to Avneil's current equation and them adopting the girl-- their relationship still has MILES to go, before they can think of even having their own biological child!

Avni needs to heal some more, Neil needs to be ready some more.

They have barely had a proper confession amid all the sympathy-seeking drama that Miss. Juhi is doing, which even went on to an incomplete church wedding for AvNeil, and you think they are ready to become parents?

Not at all.

Parenting is a massive responsibility from whatever I have seen around me and can infer as a person. So, I think AvNeil together need to grow more as a couple before even thinking of starting a family of their own. 😊

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AvNeil123

@AvNeil123

Stunner

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: subiaman
Personally, I dont have any issues with it as long as Avni is equal part in the decision process. That would be a good social message.
However, the selfish me would like to see a child of Neil and Avni being Neils first child :) thats just me being selfish! am not mahan like Avni. I want to see Neil and Avni go through that process of parenting for the first time with a child of their own. Avni has suffered enough in childhood and would love to see her having a "normal happy family"

I agree with what you've said. Who better than Avni will know whats its like to not have your father's name. Avni will not wish that upon anyone, so as long as AvNeil are in this together, its okay.

But on the other hand, i also AvNeil's child to be the first. Just being a selfish AvNeil fan here 😆

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Antara123

@Antara123

Sparkler

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Posted: 8 years ago

I don't know why, the kid has to be adopted. IF Neil is the father, he can continue to be a father, and Juhi the mother. Parents have nothing to do with being a husband and wife.

Neil and Avni can still live happily, it won't change anything.

But again, this is a thought that can be accepted with great difficulty in the television scenario.

Also, I don't think it's his kid in the first place. Lol. Idk why. I personally believe it's not his kid. So all of this is moot. All of this naam Dena and all is bullshit. Juhi can give her name to her kid. XD

We'll see how everything plaYs out. I have watched enough serials to know everything is not as it seems. XD

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Miss-Behave

@Miss-Behave

Stunner

+ 6

Posted: 8 years ago

The main reason behind the fandom being against avneil being parents right now, that too by adopting juhi's child is that for one, avneil haven't even experienced a proper marital life yet at all. Only now they have started becoming more comfortable and open with one another in sharing their feelings, and the love confession hasn't even happened properly, they are swarmed by problems that they don't get enough time to spend quality time together, and they haven't even consummated their marriage yet. They are nowhere near ready to share the responsibility of a child, when they haven't even started to explore their relationship together as a married couple. If they adopted at this stage, they would again become too engrossed in the child to have time together.

Also, some people really dislike the idea of history repeating itself and avni just becoming another neela. They want her to experience the love of a husband, loving in-laws and having her own child, something neither of her mother's got.

Also, it's just so unoriginal and typical that juhi dies and leaves the child in the care of avneil and they adopt her. People would rather, considering what juhi has gone through since the past 5 years, for avneil to help juhi get back on her own feet and become strong and independent enough to get her life up and running again and give a better life to herself and a child. This would be a great way to show something new and less generic, by I doubt NK cv's will even do this. They'll just show juhi becoming a part of their lives forever somehow, maybe even die and leave her child to avneil to adopt.

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Kaiina

@Kaina.Ain

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

A child remains a child to everyone.. be it Neil's or someone else's...which im sure is not his.

Avneil as a team are leaving no stone unturned to rescue d baby... wats more... they needn't hav to giv it their name...who says so...she has her mother in fine fattle for parenting single handedly...cvs plz rule out the option of adoption. Avneil r always der as n when help needed.

Avnj and neil have never been engrossed in a conservation as yet about their relationship their feelings... their heart to heart talk.they re yet to come into normality about their ownselves...as a couple. They r madly in love but they gotto to live tat first. Bringing in Juhi's baby will totally engross them in different mode of relationship status. Lets be selfish here...adoption wld be a BAD Option having said tat their journey has to grow leaps n bounds.

Juhi on the other hand has been bailed out of RPs den..and so will her daughter from vidyut's.

She can move on wit her baby...wheres the need of avni wheres the need of neil. She can be

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An_Introvert

@An_Introvert

Navigator

Posted: 8 years ago

I agree with some of the people here.

While it is a very noble thing to adopt a child and giving your name, I want Avneil to have their own child. Call me selfish but I want Avni to have a normal, happy family. Its not roses and honey to adopt a child but a huge responsibility. And they are still taking baby steps in their own relationship. I don't want their whole attention elsewhere. It just doesn't remains the same when a kid comes into the picture.

My question is why should Avni take the responsibility of Juhi's child? Why should she be another Neela Ma? Why can't the cvs for once show something non-cliched? Why can't Juhi start a new life with her child?

I know Avni is compassionate and wouldn't think twice if the said situation arises. But please, after all that poor soul has been through, I just don't want it for her.

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Nandhu_Arshi

@Nan_ArHi

Inactive

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Posted: 8 years ago

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I agree that adopting is not bad but Why? Why when Juhi is there? Logically the show deals with how a girl can survive without both her father and husband's name. If Avni leaves Neil for leaving at the altar too it's fine, that would be logical.

Why can't Juhi be an independent mother like Neela? Why Avni has to do every damn thing for Juhi? Juhi can take care of her flesh very well, If they are giving Naye Soch then it must be this than 'How to deal with ex's return in life' and 'How to take responsibility of ex's kid'

Why I want AvNeil not to adopt the kid is because I don't want the history to repeat in Avni's case! She has suffered enough. She should get a fresh life instead of this. AvNeil hasn't even cleared their little little MU yet. They were fighting over that Ehsaan thing, Avni should be more open to Neil and lot more.

Avni's and Mishti's cases are different. Avni rejected her dad for not accepting her mother while Mishti is a little kid who is struck with a human trafficking man. If the kid is rescued tjen she should be sent back to her mother and Juhi has to take care of her

Edited by Nanak_Arshi - 8 years ago

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